Holy f***! I just dont get it. All this violence, is it a cultural thing? Can someone explain to me why? Its its not sadtu, or num, its students. Nah, I just dont get it.
Nice going putting more energy into making petrol bombs, then hitting your books and exams. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Letanta
This is the only Language the Institution understands, therefore if you were not affected by NFSAS you wont understant this situation. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
cornelius
You can bet the drunken louts were ANCYL scum. History will judge the ANC harshly for its failure to bring the ANCYL to heel. Its easy - simply disband the ANCYL until it returns to a semblance of normality and discipline. The ANC cannot distance itself from the damage that its youth is doing. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Senyobinyobi
Our brothers and sisters who are keen to be educated are not doing this, can the minister please deploy these corrupt police officials, to calm the situation.
Closing the campuses is going to have a negative effect on the year end results guys, but I understand, Blade doesnt have matric too and he is just ignoring the incident. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
cocolucho
Really guys what the hell!! Its now become sa culture to destroy anything during a protest, but dont they realise that they are ruining their own future and education by doing this. Are they not students? Aren't they not supposed to be educated. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
dik
The Church of Reason has no place for these numbskulls.
South Africa should have no place for such behavior but it would seem to be normal for a great number of our population.
Maybe we should create an institution for people who wish to live with violence and crime and thuggery and put a big fence round it, and let the rest of us live in peace. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
cornelius
@ Letanta - if the NFSAS is being abused or incorrectly allocated, it will be possible to take them to court. There are many organisations that would take up a public law issue such as that. In a civilsed country that is how one resolves thiongs that are wrong. Your methods just make everything more difficult - the money that must now be used to repair the damge coul dhav ebeen spent to the benefit of students. What is so difficult to understand about this principle ? Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Kabelo10
I'm not surprised, strike was an imminent event because of this poor management. Although i dont know the real reasons for the cause, i bet it got to do with management. They can't balance the inequality between the students in town and those in kasi campuses. They dont take Kasi campuses serious, that's why some of us we opt for WITS, UP, and other descent institution. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Mas-culin
It was chaos last night at TUT Soshanguve. My younger sister called me around 10pm so I can come collect her stuff because students were violent. It looked like a movie when I got there. Was even feeling intimidated that they will break my car because some of them were drunk. I had my gun ready in my car just in-case...
I'm very disappointed of our youth's behavior. Sickening...
Soshanguve Campus at it again. i had some of the best years of my life there.
the issue with tefsa is that academically fit students are not considered by managment cause they take bribes form their friends.src are worst corrupt. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
“Students and external people, some of whom were intoxicated, stoned buildings and threw petrol-bombs, causing extensive damage to property.”
+++++++++++++
i guess all those damaged buildings have learnt a lesson and will now respond to students' greviances Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Kabelo10
@TMZ
Soshanguve Campus at it again. i had some of the best years of my life there.
the issue with tefsa is that academically fit students are not considered by managment cause they take bribes form their friends.src are worst corrupt.
========================================
That's what happend in my 1st year da. Management ba rata jojo (Bribes), lucky me i changed in my 2nd year to UP were i never saw even a single strike till i completed my Honours degree.
@Mas-culin
We cant just blame students only, TUT management have never been stable. They were not afraid to take decisions in main campus (Pretoria) without informing SRS of other campuses and that causes confusion to students. Minister Blade must intervene but i doubt if he'l curb this strike because he is still obsessed with Mangaung wt wt. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Bolander
Shocking, shocking, shocking - violence is not the way to deal with problems! This does not auger well for the future of our country!
@TMZ, I must agree with you, I never attended at TUT unfortunately or should I say fortunately my younger brother is currently doing his B-tech in the Garankuwa campus, He told me they now have introduced a two quarter registration for a course that runs the whole year, meaning u have to register in January and in July again.
I can not remember seeing a less than 65% in any of my younger brothers results but to date he has not heared anything from NFSAS or the so called NRF. But his friend who failed his first semester courses has been granted an NRF bursary. I just got a call now that I should go collect my younger brother from the ODI campus. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Keafixa
TNG my TNG.....ba blind ka strike.i enjoyed my yrs there Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Letanta
@ cornelius
What is so difficult to understand about this principle ?
Coconuts like you always has this long Sentences of How to... What if..... Perhaps...., TUT is facing reality recently, NFSAS is out of order even their Office Fax machine does'nt work. What Organisation? This Students do not need Organisation, they NFSAS approval thats all..... Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Setjhaba sa Rantsho............... why are we so destructive??????
You want water, you burn minicipal office
You want a salary increase, you k!ll your colleagues (and fellow beings)
You want funding for studies, burn, loot the institution
This Country need a Re-Think President, it is like everything is going up in smoke, who is not burning things now? everybody is angry at something. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Letanta
This is the only Language the Institution understands, therefore if you were not affected by NFSAS you wont understant this situation
*******************************************************************************************
It is not the institution, student bodies (SRC, COSAS, et al) the fukc up everything. Non deserving students are given funding because they are either friends, relatives, girlfriends, boyfriends of the "comrades". Deserving students' applications are always turned down.............
Like the saying goes Money (Connections) talk, bullsh!t walks............... Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Catswhiskers
Always thought lack of education was the reason for the violence in the previous regime, and thought that education would solve a lot of problems - obviously I was wrong. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Uncle-Lu
same sh!t happened in 2006
Soshanguve Campus is full of Malema wanna-be comrades they think when they are angry
Their way to be heard sucks
They requested buses last week inviting the Garakuwa campus (which we know that campus is so quite takes instruction from sosha) to go to main campus n disrupt classes Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Uncle-Lu
Keafixa
TNG my TNG.....ba blind ka strike.i enjoyed my yrs there
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lol, bo comrade Small,Mathanzima,Justice, Report Abuse
Who can forget the mighty Cde MAngena, Eddy, Ras Vusi..damn i miss my PASMA days Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
legendarybenedictoholic
TUT students are not the only ones who are complaining about the NSFAS allocations, it is just that others are quiet about it. what can we say. people are corrupt and the government is not doing crab about it. and then at the end students will be expected to repay amounts some of which they did not even use. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
legendarybenedictoholic
@ Letanta. you are right man. people who are not affected by this kind of a situation will never understand. they will say all this different kinds of things and maybe that is because things are going well for them. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Keafixa
sbutah
i still have one or two of PASMA's circulars at home. that english etlago bolaya Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Budapat
surely we need divine intervention in this country, protesters are not listened to and resort to violent means, authorities do not proactively respond to burning issues until such time all hell break lose. SENZENJANI SIZWE SASE MANZI AFRIKA? Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
PAPABRAVO
I dont blame these dumbnuts.....its the culture we condone as south africans,all reason out the door,
phambili maqabane! Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
PAPABRAVO
phambili macabane,its what you are taught mos..... Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Ben-Israel
TUT Shoshanguve…..is for me the worst place ever, the place looks filthy from outside, the location is not suitable for an institution of higher learning, sies maan, the management must get their act together, this is unacceptable, our younger brothers cannot keep missing lectures coz of this high level incompetence. Hai shame that is one institution I will never advice any1 to take their kids to. That place is a joke maan. Report Abuse
Aug 17, 2012
Magava
@Ben-Israel dont spread incorrect rumours Report Abuse
Aug 20, 2012
suzienash
i dont totally agree with what the tut students are doing but i can understand their frustation, i mean i am from prretoria and i had to go to cput in cape town to go study bcoz of the fear of not getting nasfas or even space, god knows how many times i have applied to tut, and itz either they never recieved my application or some ridiculous story, tut managent must stop playing with students future ..i will really love to come back and study close by home..but am reconsidering, the situation just scares the hell out of me..why are we oppessing each other like this. it is so true tht money is the route to all evil...tut managent get ur act together for the sake of the students!!1 Report Abuse
Aug 22, 2012
GUERRILLA
owww hell no WSU, FORTHARE, TUT are the only VARSITIES with the NSFAS SYNDROME why not STELLENBOSCH, NMMU, UCT etc.haykhona dear comrades its time for change Report Abuse
If you feel a comment on the site does not meet our general comments guidelines (see below), you can report the comment.
Comments guidelines:
Comments should be relevant to the article or the thread of conversation
Comments should not make personal attacks
Comments should not use vulgar, discriminatory, obscene or abusive language
Once reported, we will review the complaint you have made and the reason for it.
We will then take any action we believe appropriate and is within our rights. Please refer to the Terms and Conditions which are agreed to when registering on Sowetan LIVE.
Comments
Sinudeity_
Holy f***! I just dont get it. All this violence, is it a cultural thing? Can someone explain to me why? Its its not sadtu, or num, its students. Nah, I just dont get it.Nice going putting more energy into making petrol bombs, then hitting your books and exams.
Report Abuse
Letanta
This is the only Language the Institution understands, therefore if you were not affected by NFSAS you wont understant this situation.Report Abuse
cornelius
You can bet the drunken louts were ANCYL scum. History will judge the ANC harshly for its failure to bring the ANCYL to heel. Its easy - simply disband the ANCYL until it returns to a semblance of normality and discipline. The ANC cannot distance itself from the damage that its youth is doing.Report Abuse
Senyobinyobi
Our brothers and sisters who are keen to be educated are not doing this, can the minister please deploy these corrupt police officials, to calm the situation.Closing the campuses is going to have a negative effect on the year end results guys, but I understand, Blade doesnt have matric too and he is just ignoring the incident.
Report Abuse
cocolucho
Really guys what the hell!! Its now become sa culture to destroy anything during a protest, but dont they realise that they are ruining their own future and education by doing this. Are they not students? Aren't they not supposed to be educated.Report Abuse
dik
The Church of Reason has no place for these numbskulls.South Africa should have no place for such behavior but it would seem to be normal for a great number of our population.
Maybe we should create an institution for people who wish to live with violence and crime and thuggery and put a big fence round it, and let the rest of us live in peace.
Report Abuse
cornelius
@ Letanta - if the NFSAS is being abused or incorrectly allocated, it will be possible to take them to court. There are many organisations that would take up a public law issue such as that. In a civilsed country that is how one resolves thiongs that are wrong. Your methods just make everything more difficult - the money that must now be used to repair the damge coul dhav ebeen spent to the benefit of students. What is so difficult to understand about this principle ?Report Abuse
Kabelo10
I'm not surprised, strike was an imminent event because of this poor management. Although i dont know the real reasons for the cause, i bet it got to do with management. They can't balance the inequality between the students in town and those in kasi campuses. They dont take Kasi campuses serious, that's why some of us we opt for WITS, UP, and other descent institution.Report Abuse
Mas-culin
It was chaos last night at TUT Soshanguve. My younger sister called me around 10pm so I can come collect her stuff because students were violent. It looked like a movie when I got there. Was even feeling intimidated that they will break my car because some of them were drunk. I had my gun ready in my car just in-case...I'm very disappointed of our youth's behavior. Sickening...
masculinnkosi_gmail
Report Abuse
TMZ
Soshanguve Campus at it again. i had some of the best years of my life there.the issue with tefsa is that academically fit students are not considered by managment cause they take bribes form their friends.src are worst corrupt.
Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
“Students and external people, some of whom were intoxicated, stoned buildings and threw petrol-bombs, causing extensive damage to property.”+++++++++++++
i guess all those damaged buildings have learnt a lesson and will now respond to students' greviances
Report Abuse
Kabelo10
@TMZSoshanguve Campus at it again. i had some of the best years of my life there.
the issue with tefsa is that academically fit students are not considered by managment cause they take bribes form their friends.src are worst corrupt.
========================================
That's what happend in my 1st year da. Management ba rata jojo (Bribes), lucky me i changed in my 2nd year to UP were i never saw even a single strike till i completed my Honours degree.
@Mas-culin
We cant just blame students only, TUT management have never been stable. They were not afraid to take decisions in main campus (Pretoria) without informing SRS of other campuses and that causes confusion to students. Minister Blade must intervene but i doubt if he'l curb this strike because he is still obsessed with Mangaung wt wt.
Report Abuse
Bolander
Shocking, shocking, shocking - violence is not the way to deal with problems! This does not auger well for the future of our country!Report Abuse
MzimbaShaker
@TMZ, I must agree with you, I never attended at TUT unfortunately or should I say fortunately my younger brother is currently doing his B-tech in the Garankuwa campus, He told me they now have introduced a two quarter registration for a course that runs the whole year, meaning u have to register in January and in July again.I can not remember seeing a less than 65% in any of my younger brothers results but to date he has not heared anything from NFSAS or the so called NRF. But his friend who failed his first semester courses has been granted an NRF bursary. I just got a call now that I should go collect my younger brother from the ODI campus.
Report Abuse
Keafixa
TNG my TNG.....ba blind ka strike.i enjoyed my yrs thereReport Abuse
Letanta
@ corneliusWhat is so difficult to understand about this principle ?
Coconuts like you always has this long Sentences of How to... What if..... Perhaps...., TUT is facing reality recently, NFSAS is out of order even their Office Fax machine does'nt work. What Organisation? This Students do not need Organisation, they NFSAS approval thats all.....
Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Setjhaba sa Rantsho............... why are we so destructive??????You want water, you burn minicipal office
You want a salary increase, you k!ll your colleagues (and fellow beings)
You want funding for studies, burn, loot the institution
Damit.................
Report Abuse
Papage
This Country need a Re-Think President, it is like everything is going up in smoke, who is not burning things now? everybody is angry at something.Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@LetantaThis is the only Language the Institution understands, therefore if you were not affected by NFSAS you wont understant this situation
*******************************************************************************************
It is not the institution, student bodies (SRC, COSAS, et al) the fukc up everything. Non deserving students are given funding because they are either friends, relatives, girlfriends, boyfriends of the "comrades". Deserving students' applications are always turned down.............
Like the saying goes Money (Connections) talk, bullsh!t walks...............
Report Abuse
Catswhiskers
Always thought lack of education was the reason for the violence in the previous regime, and thought that education would solve a lot of problems - obviously I was wrong.Report Abuse
Uncle-Lu
same sh!t happened in 2006Soshanguve Campus is full of Malema wanna-be comrades they think when they are angry
Their way to be heard sucks
They requested buses last week inviting the Garakuwa campus (which we know that campus is so quite takes instruction from sosha) to go to main campus n disrupt classes
Report Abuse
Uncle-Lu
KeafixaTNG my TNG.....ba blind ka strike.i enjoyed my yrs there
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lol, bo comrade Small,Mathanzima,Justice,
Report Abuse
Keafixa
@unclebo Qoboza
Report Abuse
Sbutha45
@ Uncle and KeafixaWho can forget the mighty Cde MAngena, Eddy, Ras Vusi..damn i miss my PASMA days
Report Abuse
legendarybenedictoholic
TUT students are not the only ones who are complaining about the NSFAS allocations, it is just that others are quiet about it. what can we say. people are corrupt and the government is not doing crab about it. and then at the end students will be expected to repay amounts some of which they did not even use.Report Abuse
legendarybenedictoholic
@ Letanta. you are right man. people who are not affected by this kind of a situation will never understand. they will say all this different kinds of things and maybe that is because things are going well for them.Report Abuse
Keafixa
sbutahi still have one or two of PASMA's circulars at home. that english etlago bolaya
Report Abuse
Budapat
surely we need divine intervention in this country, protesters are not listened to and resort to violent means, authorities do not proactively respond to burning issues until such time all hell break lose. SENZENJANI SIZWE SASE MANZI AFRIKA?Report Abuse
PAPABRAVO
I dont blame these dumbnuts.....its the culture we condone as south africans,all reason out the door,phambili maqabane!
Report Abuse
PAPABRAVO
phambili macabane,its what you are taught mos.....Report Abuse
Ben-Israel
TUT Shoshanguve…..is for me the worst place ever, the place looks filthy from outside, the location is not suitable for an institution of higher learning, sies maan, the management must get their act together, this is unacceptable, our younger brothers cannot keep missing lectures coz of this high level incompetence. Hai shame that is one institution I will never advice any1 to take their kids to. That place is a joke maan.Report Abuse
Magava
@Ben-Israel dont spread incorrect rumoursReport Abuse
suzienash
i dont totally agree with what the tut students are doing but i can understand their frustation, i mean i am from prretoria and i had to go to cput in cape town to go study bcoz of the fear of not getting nasfas or even space, god knows how many times i have applied to tut, and itz either they never recieved my application or some ridiculous story, tut managent must stop playing with students future ..i will really love to come back and study close by home..but am reconsidering, the situation just scares the hell out of me..why are we oppessing each other like this. it is so true tht money is the route to all evil...tut managent get ur act together for the sake of the students!!1Report Abuse
GUERRILLA
owww hell no WSU, FORTHARE, TUT are the only VARSITIES with the NSFAS SYNDROME why not STELLENBOSCH, NMMU, UCT etc.haykhona dear comrades its time for changeReport Abuse
Read all 34 comments