januswanus

GOOD SHOT RIAH...TELL THEM. LET THEM GO CASTRATE THEIR LEADER MTHUNJWA. THEY WERE STUPIDS, THEY SHOULD LEARN LABOUR ACTS AND REGULATIONS. THEIR LEADERS SOLD THEM. PERIOD.
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KEKGATHETSE

eish we are a vilolent society maan! Mercy mercy mercy
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NeoBaBe

So the minors r reallr ready to die for the R12,500 per month!! I feel for their loved ones, they r ready to die n leave their loved ones starving!

Ungreateful bustards, instead of appreciating what they get, they become greedy.. If what they get is too small why cant they just leave n look for something better! they r strugling already, the money for their burial where on earth is it going to come from.. Think before u act MAAN. NNXAA..
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Ompas

Thanks at @NeoBaBe,this guys have basic salary plus drilling bonus and production target bonus when they achieve their monthly target
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star88

In South Africa, the Police are criminals who have NO respect for a BLACK person's life.

Under the racist white rule and their evil apartheid, the same Police murder BLACKS for fun.

Fast forward to 2012, under Jacob Zuma, Police murder BLACKS for the fun of it

Trigger happpy black SAPS fits the dictinary definition of a classic serial killer - with victims being all blacks. If you ask why white South Africans keep calling blacks stupid, then ask no more because this is a perfect example ...
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januswanus

@ Star88 You are so stupid. Why dont you say blacks lets learn to behave when we protests. You are a fool maan. Not suprise if you hate Zuma. Leave Zuma alone.
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Planga

34 People died!!!!and this commissioner is telling us this nonsense that we should mourn.....there is nothing to mourn about here because SAPS is not apologetic about this MXM!!!
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Ubufebe

@star88

You shud be shot just for fun you d.oos. The police where cornered by the mob and their only way out was to open fire on the Panga carrying thugs.
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Lehido

Like I said this morning, those miners were ready to k!ll, like they did the whole of last week.......they had all sorts of amunition, and the dead polices' guns......What was the Police suppose to do?...Hug and kiss them?...i think not...

They protected themselves and I applaud them for that, it's unfortunate that kids lost their parents.....

Good call Commissioner!

The sangoma saga just cracks me up...lol..What did they think will happen after the ritual, Disappear?...Ungreatful hooligans..
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BabyNono87

This time the SAPS is not to blame, how many times did they plead with them, why do we tend to treat police officers like DOGS. So Star88, what u are trying to tell us is that the police were supposed to stand there and do nothing while these unruly protesters with their dangerous weapons charge on them? If they turned around and ran for dear life, u were going to be the first person to critisize them. Police Officers are human at the end of the day, they have to think for their safety.
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DanCorder

This is in no uncertain terms, a national disaster, and one that is symptomatic of the sick relationship that has developed between the police and the people, regressing from protectors to oppressors, from being the desired preventer of danger to the suppliers of danger themselves. A country in which live ammunition is used purposefully to rob the lives of people when they ask for better pay that will unlock the better lives towards which we all strive, is one needing its people to demand change until there is no way that even the police can escape it. Now.

The reality is that even in a democracy the government simply isn't to be held accountable for every injustice. The police force has over the last couple of years shown a clear trend towards violence and action completely independent of their mandate. This regression has taken place all over the country, including the Western Cape, where the DA is in power, and politically under the DA's direction. In fact, the most common examples of inappropriate (and I use that word in the constitutional sense) police engagement has been in the townships of Cape Town, in Khayalitsha, involving groups like Abahlali baseMjondolo. Clearly, then, the trend continues irrelevant of ANC/DA constituencies. The change is needed in the nearing vigilante "I am the power and I will select how I wield it" actions of the police.

In the past couple of days the National Council of Provinces passed an amendment to a law concerning appropriate response to law-breaking by police, that effectively validates the use of live ammunition against first order crimes such as rape and murder. Unfortunately, another first order crime is public violence, which by its very nature can be easily manipulated as a term to suit the ends of justifying just the sort of action that we have seen in Marikana. It requires very little of one to be accused of such a misdemeanour. This, along with widespread confusion of police mandate for many years, has led to the mindset among the police forces nationwide that has created messes such as these. This is not an isolated incident.

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DJWinner

What are company owners saying? Do they care at all?
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Hail

You will never understand the pain of someone else until is on you. to be able to understand their stupid behavior as people say it wear their shoes and learn to walk with it then maybe we will understand. May their Soul rest in Peace for they going to meet their creator and where money is not a problem.@ star88 I feel you. I have been crying the whole day yet I do not know even a single person there. What I know is two wrongs does not make one right. To their family May the good God be with you always and wipe your tears so that you will find peace.
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KMGG

looking at the visuals on the news last night it was clear that SAPS had no choice but to do what they did...those miners where behind that huge rock and decided to charge at POLICE officers, if they where not intending on hurting the officers why didnt they just go but instead charge? they clearly had bad intensions...normally when the POLICE used less force e.g. tear gas, water canons etc ppl should leave to maintain order the next thing officers could not bear the teargas they used to disperse the miners but those hooligans managed to stand it...please ppl lets not use this as some stupid political points scoring, the miners where wrong and that's it!!!!

damn how do you charge at ppl with live amunition? after they tried several means to allow u to leave, that's plain stupid!!! the union leaders AMCU must be held liable including that sangoma who stole their money!!!nxa...

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misslegal

if we want something why do we always have to go about it this way...and where is the president? no comment as usual
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babyfats

shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu heeeeeeeee bannaa!!!!!!!!!! :(
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KMGG

@misslegal

this has since been how we resolve problems in SA, the ppl in power would stall and do whole lot of delaying tactics just to push proters to doing all the bad things!!!! our gov. knows exactly how many ppl are without jobs, water, education, housing and all those basic things but they wait until poor ppl take to the street...I'm not by any means a political person or belong to a political party, but on this one the PRESINDENT has condemned the violence since the shooting happened yesterday and cancelled his SADC summit just to be in MARIKANA...

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KMGG

proters = protesters
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Mokgaditse

How on erath do you think the bullet will not penetrate the flash, just becouse the dom nake.d doctor daid so, where were you in the 80ts and 90ts when people were medard for the same reason.The people from Eastern Cape and their sang0ma. The AMCU leaders must be arrested for the lost lives,they are responsible for telling the miners that they can get R12500,from R4000.As I said this increase can only be given to anindividual and only if he/she is lucky during promotion. Otherwise the police were protecting them selves, they were not surppose to lose their liv.es carring their machines,that will be stupi.d.
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ILLUMINATED

@Star88 & Hail

I agree with you, some people here have never been in the mines. To work in the mine does not mean someone is stupid. Black people are still exploited and the government is protecting the "white" owners from Britain. In these mines, labour broking is still rife, people work in bad conditions and have nothing to show for it.

Riah: May God forgive you because you dunno what you have done and said.
SAPS: You have blood of Breadwinners on your hands, the blood of these people and their children are crying out to God. The day is coming...by your actions you shall be judged.
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Manthe

@Planga, what is the SAPS supposed to be apologetic about, put yourself in their shoes, miners are shooting at you, you have a gun in your hands and you know very well that 2 of your members are down already!! where you just going to stare at them??? well i dont think you would hey!!

@Lehido, they were told that the police guns will get stuck, hence them starting to shoot, how stupid!!!
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KMGG

if the POLICE ran for their lives no one, i mean no one would trust them to protect the citizens...and that was going to paint a very bad picture of our police services!!!

i dont condone the killings and violence here, but the Police where within their rights to protect themselves from a charging mob...if they wanted to have a peaceful protest why did they carry weapons? once again pictures dont lie, those POLICE officers where shooting while retreating and that's evident enough that they where backing off from the charging mob...

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DJWinner

ILLUMINATED
@Star88 & Hail

I agree with you, some people here have never been in the mines. To work in the mine does not mean someone is stupid. Black people are still exploited and the government is protecting the "white" owners from Britain. In these mines, labour broking is still rife, people work in bad conditions and have nothing to show for it.
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I agree with you on this one. These mines must be nationalised for once and for all. That is why Julius Malema want these mines nationalised.
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LeFaggy

Serves them right. Ms Commissioner, I still say, the Cops must shoot and deal with these hooligans. Sies. What happened to protesting peacefully!
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Shredder

@Lehido - The sangoma saga just cracks me up...lol..What did they think will happen after the ritual, Disappear?...Ungreatful hooligans..
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Maybe they consulted the sangoma to give them bravery concoction, just like Zulus do. I am not saying it in a bad way, that's what they do.

I still say the police had no other option but to defend themselves.
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KMGG

@ILLUMINATED

i think most employees feels exploited even CEO's...i do feel that i dont get enough money but i dont go around with pangas and weapons protesting just to get my point through!!! so not working at the mines doesnt mean we should be blind to wrong things ppl are doing when voicing their dissatisfaction...this trend of killing or assualting non-stricking employees has been going on in SA for such a long time and ppl have been taking the laws in to their hands to an extend that we think it's a good thing, why where they carrying weapons if they where not intending on hurting anyone? since when is it legal to go around with panga's and unlicenced fire arms in this country?

now the law enforcement officers are supposed to go back in their shells and say it's okay ppl are voicing their problems? with weapons? comeon guys we cant continue in a lawless society, this cant go on, it has to stop somewhere!!! businesses are robbed during such protest, poor ppl are harmed and no one says things like this, are we really used to citizen power to this extend???


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DJWinner

Shredder
@Lehido - The sangoma saga just cracks me up...lol..What did they think will happen after the ritual, Disappear?...Ungreatful hooligans..
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Maybe they consulted the sangoma to give them bravery concoction, just like Zulus do. I am not saying it in a bad way, that's what they do.

I still say the police had no other option but to defend themselves.
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Well, this is a personal attack to Zulus. I feel insulted. Why do people generalise? Not all Zulus use sangomas...
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KMGG

like i said, i'm not in politics...but my question is will it be better if the mines are nationalized? will the employees get what they deserve? cos as it is, many public servants are still not satistied with their salaries...how then will our nationalized mines do better if public sector itself cant do better at this point? all i'm saying is yes there should be some improvement on ppl's lives but we should clearly think this through, at this point i think we need to gradually introduce measures that will improve our economy...

anyway it's just me...
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Tmmmy

Are they also going to investigate weather the actions of the miners were proportional when they were killing those police??
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Nwanawamukalaha

But while these people are fighting for their salaries which never materialised in the boardroom, who is to be blamed except the greedy sick CEO of Lonmin? I mean, what's R4000 vs millions paid to the same CEO as bonus at the end of their financial year. No wonder he collapsed, he's concerned about the shares price and not the people who make hi filthy rich.

Also, the police are just fueling matters here. What were they doing there if AMCU and NUM are disowning the rivalry between themselves? Some fights are not to be interfered with if you don't first find out the main course of the differences.

I wonder whether the police were going to react like that if the Goodwill Gallery had its supporters in numbers.

Condolences to the families of the berieved...................
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KMGG

Nwanawamukalaha

are u suggesting that Public Order POLICING should be closed down? are u saying that during protest OLICE should just wait to see if they are needed or not? are u suggesting that other ppl or bystanders who normally becomes victims of such activities should not be protected? are u saying that order should not be maintained? clever hey!!!!

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SVR

These people stopped being protesters the moment they killed.
As murderers they can be lucky more of them did not die. I think the police showed excellent control of themselves, thank you for protecting us from murderers!
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DJWinner

KMGG

like i said, i'm not in politics...but my question is will it be better if the mines are nationalized? will the employees get what they deserve? cos as it is, many public servants are still not satistied with their salaries...how then will our nationalized mines do better if public sector itself cant do better at this point? all i'm saying is yes there should be some improvement on ppl's lives but we should clearly think this through, at this point i think we need to gradually introduce measures that will improve our economy...
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They will still earn nonsense, but a better nonsense than what they earning now. Atleast the rest of the money will go to the State not some Colonists from england.
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Ntumbane

Yes Wives have lost husbands and children have lost fathers, but I couldn`t agree less with Riah. Police had to defend themselves against these vagabonds who have no respect for human lives. These miners started this whole s@#t when they killed those 10 people including 2 law enforcement officers and how do you justify the burning alive of a human being simply because two unions are at loggerheads as to who should be recognised by the miners? You extinguish fire with fire and right now as we speak Marikan/Lonmin is so quite one would think there are no inhabitants in that area. Why ?Beacuse the only language these miners understands is a gun with its smoldering barrel ejaculating live ammunition.Those miners were violently charging towards the police and they only stopped when those bullets ripped through their flesh as confirmed by their Leader"The writing was on the wall" Rest in peace comrades and becareful not to force your way into heaven as you will suffer twice.
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Nwanawamukalaha

@KMGG

like i said, i'm not in politics...but my question is will it be better if the mines are nationalized? will the employees get what they deserve? cos as it is, many public servants are still not satistied with their salaries...how then will our nationalized mines do better if public sector itself cant do better at this point? all i'm saying is yes there should be some improvement on ppl's lives but we should clearly think this through, at this point i think we need to gradually introduce measures that will improve our economy...

anyway it's just me...
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With nationalisation in place and fully under the adminisration of the state, one would say, it can be the solution towards the light at the end of the poverty tunnel that has struck the black majority. Minerals generate a lot of money and because of that, there'll be more money in the state coffers to look after the people.

Also, the millions that are given as incentives and/or bonuses to the management for private ownership will also contribute towards the betterment of the state employees' living not forgeting the grants-bound people.

Because of these foreign investors in our minerals, how much is shiped out of South Africa considering that most of them are not even investing in our country? Shipping money that can change the state of our rural areas and townships. Look at Alexandre Township, a shame when you think of tourist think of it as a tourist place instead of a proper dwelling establishment.And Zuma want to start his own Zumaville with disparities like that.
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Nwanawamukalaha

KMGG
Nwanawamukalaha

are u suggesting that Public Order POLICING should be closed down? are u saying that during protest OLICE should just wait to see if they are needed or not? are u suggesting that other ppl or bystanders who normally becomes victims of such activities should not be protected? are u saying that order should not be maintained? clever hey!!!!
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Firstly, Nathi Mthethwa should have went for an investigation to get ad hoc course of the problem and then deploy them police. To my knowledge through what we hear and read since the violence started, these guys wakes up to go and chill at the hill and nothing else. Something that state employees do when angered by the management - stayaway but close to where you work.

What's the originator of the violence?
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SVR

@Nwanawamukalaha

The ideal is correct but the reality is that there is already lots of money to improve the lives of the poor available so ask the question where is it and why is it not being used as intended? Now ask yourself if giving the state even more money will change this?


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Gamamabolo

Great Guts Riah! A COWARD LEADER would have not said what you said. PROTECT OUR POLICE BY ALL COSTS. Its high time we go back to being a Police Force not Service. Our police brothers and sisters's lives are always in danger because of stupid laws protecting CRIMINALS. Police killers must NEVER get mercy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nwanawamukalaha

SVR
@Nwanawamukalaha

The ideal is correct but the reality is that there is already lots of money to improve the lives of the poor available so ask the question where is it and why is it not being used as intended? Now ask yourself if giving the state even more money will change this?
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True that and that's why Zuma must be removed because he's not contributing towards the betterment of the poor and their living conditions. A wise leader always takes advantage of the previous leader's flaws and comes up with a tangable solution to be the masses' favourite and a better leader. What we are experiencing now was there during Mandela and Mbeki's tenure but it's just worse now under Msholozi.

"Muri u vhavhaho u bva tsindeni" As long as Zuma is the president and him being corrupt and not community building, no one should expect all these corrupt and imbalances to disappear.
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TankGirl

@ ILLUMINATED
Your and idiot. Nuff said.

These people where exploited by their unions NUM and Amco. Amazes me how everyone all of a sudden miss the fact where this started.

Unions and the root of all evil – MONEY. From a couple of interviews these mine workers were ready to fight and TAKE ANOTHER HUMAN LIVE for the sake of MONEY. And not their bosses lives, their own lives or the unions lives. O no! The lives from people who also deal with danger everyday for a crappy salary just like you to protect the lives of others.

As for the police – They are breadwinner two. They have wives, families, children. Will you just stand there and be killed. NO! You will either run or believe it or not - PHONE THE POLICE!

But apparently the only party with brains at the moment:-
“Its horror should not only shock us but bring to the fore how too often conflicts in this country are dealt with through violence,” IFP MP Mario Oriani-Ambrosini said in a statement.
“For too made years irresponsible leaders have spread throughout the country the culture of rebellion, lawlessness and violence as a tool of political action. Unless there is a fundamental change of culture at the highest level of government things will worsen.”
“We call on the President to order a for full, expedited and independent investigation of whether police action was justified, proportional and necessary under the circumstances.” Oriani-Ambrosini said

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sgubhusenkwishi

Inkinga enkulu kulelizwe sinohulumeni oqasha izikhulu ezinezizathu zokuthi amaphoyisa achithe igazi lezakhamizi ngaphandle kokuzihlupha ngokusebanzisa amaqhinga okuxazulula ukubulala, ngokugwema ukuchitheka kwegazi. Lokhu kuyasiqeda amathemba esinawo kuhulumeni nalolu hlobo lwezikhulu anazo.
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HoiMash69

I guess star88 wanted the headline to read " 34 Police Women Killed by Miners "

They were commiting a crime, which is charging at a police officer and Police are required to protect themselves by any means neccesary when attjacked. Look at the picture, do you see those weapons, do you see the guy holding the Knife, Moron
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MQP

These are unskilled workers who worked in that mine for years,who were under paid and some of them are close to retirement,this was everything they had,they couldn't change jobs because of health problems,unskilled or old,some of them were injured in that mine and were never compensated,some died and their families were robbed because they didn't know the procedures to follow or were uneducated.I can give you million reasons for them to do what they did but the police have to pay for what they did to those families.After all the is no excuse for taking a life,the were alternatives on dispersing the people,u took bread from a child and u proud about that wow. I HATE POLICE.
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sgubhusenkwishi

@ MQP, am 100% backing your take sir, am so embarrassed at people like JanusWANUS and others who share the same plight and blaming the victims for being stupid and uneducated, hence deserved killed. I wonder how a self proclaiming academic fail to think that these people were left by their employers without alternatives than this, the salary they are on say it all.
They have been working all their lives without a shift of improvement in their socio economic situation and they would further have worked the rest of their lives with stigmas of being failures, at the hands of the capitalists who are earning a lot from the sweats of these people. We all know how expencive platnum is, we all know the risk of working underground to their lives.?
How can an intelligent person justify paying this people a pay below the living cost as it is in south africa, How can we blame them for beurocratic channels that are even problem to us to follow.
How can we justify killing using state agents and tools.How can we justify slavery.
This was indeed a bold move by these africans to embark on a struggle for economical freedom at the expence of their lives, to break the shackles of slavery, to send a clear message to capitalist that their treatment is non human, yes they have to pay the price with their own lives,like other freedom fighters but their legacy would be left behind for this country to learn.
More stooges would change their languages when the benefits of their struggle start to surface.
May their soul rest in peace.
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Stapoora

Good call by our Police. No bunch of unruly hooligans must be allowed to murder police officers and citizens and get away with it. Let alone repeat it on a bigger scale like they were planning to.
After murdering the first two police and other people,their sangoma lied to them and told them that his rituals made them invincible. This group of magrant miners think that they can come here and push the envelope of our democracy and liberal laws at their whim.
The police did what they had to do and the president should not have even interupted his official trip for a bunch of migrant cop murderers who even had the dead cops' eapons on them.

To our police,Do it again if need be, This is not a lawless country.
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Stapoora

The two policemen and all the people that have been murdered by this striking hooligans also have children and families. What exactly gives this striking hooligans the right to take other lives when they strike?
The miners chose to live and conduct their strike by the gun and panga instead of normal strike routine,they died by the gun.
It was their choice to allow themselves to be used by individuals who ran away from danger and are with their children now. They will come back and lead more fools to foolishly challenge cops with guns and cops will come out tops again.
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sgubhusenkwishi

@Stapoora, I have been following the news on this issue, I still cant understand the reason for police shooting. Based on the fact that striking miners were on the isolated spot on the hill, No report of them fighting and killing each other despite being on strike, Yes they are said to have been armed, but the most desired question to get an answer is , why did policemen bother to approach them in the first place, before the time when the situation got out of hand , police exchanging fires with protesters and killing them.
If protesters right were respected and they were left alone on the hill, this would have not happened.
Policemen were not suppose to invade protesters social space in the first place, now this letting us to believe, protesters were triggered by the bully forces, who maimed them to eventually make an excuse for massacre. I end my case.
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truthhurt

SAPS is the Devil.
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Stapoora

@sgubhusenkwishi, Does striking have to be with weapons and dead bodies including the bodies of police officers at the feet of strikers?
Since you have been following the news,I am sure you will agree that by yesterday,this bunch were no more ordinary strikers but a mob of murderers with dead policemen's weapons and other weapons in their possesion . And the police had to respect their private space? I say no ways. The police have to apprehend them whether they are a mob on a mountain or not,they remain unruly murderers.
No action must be taken against this group of policemen. We all saw how they were facing lethal weapons from the same people that killed their fellow policemen.

The leaders of this group must take full responsibility including for that of the dead policemen.

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sgubhusenkwishi

how many strikers have you seen in this country, carrying weapons? are you knew inthis country or what.
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mozzi

starr88!!!!!!!! Will you act the same if this protesters slash your family
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MQP

lets not get twisted,if 2 police were murdered thats a case on its own and i believe it was still being investigated,tell me who have a proof that those police guns realy come from those people,tell me how do you difend yourself when you have taken a life (they always say its self defence),self defence my left foot,a friend of mine recorded the tape that was played by etv,I watched it over and over and what i saw was police firing a teargas cans and the people started running because they couldn't see and couldn't breath because of the teargas the situation became worse when running towards the direction of the police because they couldn't see infront of them.

When the teargas was fired one policeman thought it was the people firing at them(police) and he panic, when the people started running towards them (police) the man fired and everyone followed but after they saw what they have done they call for sizz fire.

If those people were attacking the police why wont we told about injured police or police who were shot,the only thing we hear about is the two police who were killed by the miners and they know who killed them why they didn't arrest those people.

This was done out of vengence,they were angry that they have lost some of their own but couldn't figure out who did it and decided to blame inocent miners who were trying to fight for their rights.

The owner of the mine makes billions and he can't even give his employees R12500,it might happen that the owner is not even from here,you take peoples lives and you say they might scare investers, meaning you want our people to be exploited by foreign investers just because you think that is going to boost the economy,thats bull.

@sgubhusenkwishi,u dont have to prove a point to any1,these people must stop thinking ngama zantsi ezinqa zabo,the fact remains the is no justification/excuse for taking a life and thats that!!!!
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MQP

Lets not make this a race issue but believe you me,it wasn't black people only working in that mine, what pisses me off is how they (other race) always take credit for what they never fought for,they worked during security strike,they never participated on taxi strike but they are taxi owners and drivers,military strike they never participated,now its a mine strike,i cannot even see one from them and i bet u if they were part of the strike,no one was goner be shot.Cowards!!!
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Mapungubgwe

You killed ,burnt and maimed Zimbabweans and the whole of South Africa laughed while the young blood sucking monster was left to grow.Indeed its growing and it feeds on blood,the Zimbos are no more ,the Malawians are no more so who is next.I am Zimbabwean,when I saw the image of the burning Zimbabwean it pained and troubled me for a while wondering what kind of people could watch and laugh at such inhuman torture of another man.That image will always live to haunt the South Africans.In Zimbabwe we have what is called Ngozi,when a man is killed unfairly,his relatives invoke his spirit to revenge until such time that the perpetrators own up and pay. Has Zuma ever bothered to find out how the relatives of those people feel,how the families of those slain breadwinners are surviving.I am not celebrating on others demise but my word is Mzansi watch out,this is just an eye opener otherwise more is coming if your society does not change.What place is that where people cant dialogue but believe in vilonce,what place is that where people dont wannas work but believe in killing others to steal,what place is that where men cant propose to a woman but believe in raping,what place is that whre the elderly are disrespected,what place is that where a teacher is nothing but stupid in the eyes of the students,what place is that where policemen drink in uniform,what place is that where a president is painted naked,what place is that where fools like Julius Malema are respected???????
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Warren

MapunguZimbo
S.A. is too good to be true for you bunch of illegals isnt it? Thanks to those who allowed all of you to roam freely and unidentified in S.A. without thinking about S.A. citizens
First you cross your skeletal,cholera ravaged azzes illegally into our country,you get nursed back to health by S.A gov for free. You acquire illegal papers to prolong your illegal stay in our country. You take advantage of our free health services and start breeding like there is no tommorow.
You steal jobs from millions of locals by working for almost nothing and you say they dont want to work.
Now you get so cosy in our country that you start ranting shitt about our Pres,our people and our country in the media. There is so much for you to rant about in your own country starting with the reason why you are a refugee in S.A. in the first place.
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MapunguZimbo

The blood sucking monster you should be ranting about is that one in your country that murders so many of your fellow countrymen each time there are so called elections there. The very same one that got you running from your country to S.A with your coward tails between your legs. Why dont you and your fellow witches invoke that spirit on that monster that kills so many of you back in Zim. Big mouth azzhole. Has Mugabe ever bothered to find out how the relatives of those people feel? How the relatives of those breadwinners are surving back in Zim? Thats what you should be ranting about.
Its always the same shitt with you ungrateful refugees. When you get too comfy in S.A.,you start running your stinking mouths against S.A. ,its leaders and its people.
What are you to tell Mzansi to watch out when you couldnt watch out for your own azz back in Zim?
What kind of people are Zimbos that they cross into S.A. and one of you thanks S.A communities by rapin.g twenty one old women in Limpopo? And you still accuse S.A. people of not proposing women but r.aping. You are clearly on a malicious mission to rubbish the country that feeds you as usual,you ungrateful refugee.
You ask what kind of place is S.A where people cant dialogue but believe in violence? Now you are being too obvious with your malice becauset his question describes your Zim so accurately and you know it. Even Morgan Tsvangirai will think that you are hallucinating and confusing S.A with your Zim.
It is ungrateful azzes like you that we need to weed out of our country a.s.a.p.
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HighlyFavoured1

I dont understand why people can be so critical of the Police when all they did was act in self defence. Yes there is no denying that SAPS has done terrible things in the past. But lets judge them only on this one for now.

One of the Police that died was a neighbour of mine. He died because he was trying to read the rights of the miners who was already charching at him and before he could reach for his short gun to defend himself he was hacked with a panga.

Now tell me @Star88 since you want to be so political and have a big mouth about what happened when you were not even there. What would you have done if you were his collegue?

@Star88, get your facts straight before you start voicing your ignorance. Not everything the media says is the truth. I am sure you are old enough to know that. Eish, nxa!
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HighlyFavoured1

That comment is for all the ignorant people who want to just open their mouth and be opininated without getting their facts right.

Read, digest and investigate before you start shooting your mouth. That is what intelligent people do!
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Mashinini2010

i agree this miners were armed, what was peaceful about that!!!they had all sorts of weapons on a strike and the police are to blame. they are given guns for a reason, if not to protect themselves and any threatning situation then why have police officers. Lets strike, holding every weapon possible it's the only way to be heard.

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