Papage

O legwala, you can go back now, do it alone, let us see. you are a corward and let me remind you "Corwards die many times before their death". your day is coming.
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RobinH

Oh bulls!t man. You lie. Else hey, you're welcome to go in there, but with respect, you're probably terrified.
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Papage

Whose mine is this? can someone tell us who the shareholders are? maybe that can answer lots of questions
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januswanus

THAT'S THE GUY WHO MUST ACCOUNT.
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Papage

Shoot yourself and follow them, lets see Corward!
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MommaC

Papage

Lonmin is a publicly listed company. Their shareholders are people from all around the world, including SA. Many of the pension funds and money management funds use stocks for investment.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@RobinH

Oh bulls!t man. You lie. Else hey, you're welcome to go in there, but with respect, you're probably terrified.
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He's not terrified,what do u know about comrades meneer.

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Budapat

come on Mathunjwa man, you failed those workers or miners to be correct, if you were a true leader you should have stayed with them on the hill top seeing that you knew they were gonna be KILLED. liar!!
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KEKGATHETSE

they refused your call to leave. please how can you call yourself a leader. a leader has followers. you led nobody away from death. in fact you jump ship captain.
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Galfrend

You can still killl yourself......
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KoketsoLennox19

The AMCU guy need to be arrested!his stupid Union is so unproffessional!
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lindsay

why did you go back and die with them. you incited them to strike illegally and then ran off bloody coward
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

The president of Amcu wanted to go back and die with his dead colleagues when he saw them fall during police fire at Lonmin's Marikana mine, he said
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Cry me a river (infested with salt water crocodiles)

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NeoBaBe

You wanted to go bck n die with ur comrades.. and then who/what stopped u! Obviously u thought about ur family, Good for u!
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sgubhusenkwishi

where a hell is this criminal employer ? People ha reason to stay there and fight , in south africa at this time and age , who can work for R4000.00 a month , a grocer alone is R5000.00 plus , but they have to use this little for self clothing, family feeding, school kids, wife , housing needs etc. This doesnt make sense. They might be blamed for less education, failing to contain anger and arming during the protest. But come on! these are our people where are our morals? We cant blindly sell the souls of one of ours to slavery like this. This is unfair. Which planet are we living on?
May their souls rest in peace. Condolesces to their families. But africa has a long way to walk before we can see the light at the end of a tunnel.
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lindsay

what are they waiting for this guy must be arrested he is the cause of that massacre.
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RobinH

Katakata: With respect, I too was involved in the struggle way back, so don't make your pathetic assumptions about me again. What was your involvement in thr struggle? Were you born yet? Nasty little person.
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Ompas

He even went down on his knees,pleading with the workers and they didnt listen to him.
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Papage

@ MommaC, thank you, but I am not answered, I want their names? if BB owns 30, cc owns 10 and Asma owns 30 and America owns 30, tell us,that is what i want to establish.
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RobinH

Ompas: Ja sure.
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Tubetsiii

@sgubhusnkwishi noted with agreement chief. its either we are being among the slaves or the hungry free man. VIVA COMDRATES (MAY THEIR SOULS REST IN PEACE AND THEIR SPIRIT LIVE FOREVER)
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Ompas

this guys brought this to themselves,when they start working,the knew how much they will earn and now they have rediculous demands.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@RobinH

Katakata: With respect, I too was involved in the struggle way back, so don't make your pathetic assumptions about me again. What was your involvement in thr struggle? Were you born yet? Nasty little person.
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Black man's freedom is a fruit of my involvement in the struggle boet.

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Sinudeity_

Yeah, you should have died you piece of $h1t.
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MommaC

lt.hemscott.com/SSB/tiles/company-data/forecasts-deals/major-shareholders.jsp?epic=LMI&market=LSE

Lonmin major shareholders
Xstrala
Old Mutual
Prudential
Norges Bank
Ameriprise
and the directors
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Tsek

y dnt u take a gun and do it right nw bloodymampara!!!
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Sinudeity_

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - *yawn*

Pity we still have apartheid relics around. You are f***ing up the country.
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RobinH

kata: You and you alone, hey. F*cking Superman we have here. Read your history, man. I'm sure you can find books with no words of more than one syllable.
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Bube

Mathunjwa should be arrested he is the one who took them to the hill top, he is the one who promised them R12500 without consulting with the employers ,he is the one who caused the violence and for him to say he wanted to go and die with cdes is a lie. considering the size of this economy how do you promise a handman at a mine R12500 when jonior doctors are earning plus or minus the same. As a Union leader Mathunjwa does not grasp the fact that if( and only if it is possible) these guys where to get their 12500 there was going to be a nationwide unrest everybody will go on strike for more, of-course teachers,police officers, artisans (class one) and all the other middle class earners can not earn less than mine handmans. and neitherless there is no where in the world where handman are being paid that much
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DJWinner

You are lying with those fake tears of yours, nxa!
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Keafixa

onale maaka man, u left bcos u were afraid of the police......coward

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DJWinner

I think the main problem in this country is unions. Not only that they are responsible for death of people, but they will send the economy of this country to a toilet....
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@Sinudeity_
@RobinH

Kakkakakkakakkakakkakakka hey! these kids.

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babyfats

ooooooooooooooohhhk ...........
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Lehido

Fat Union leader, you encouredged them to demand 12500 because you wanted to increase membership fees....Stop lying man.....

They deserved to be shot after hacking those 2 cops with pangas and burning security guards alive last week,,,,,Pitty you were not around yesterday, I would have loved to see your ass get shot
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Lehido

but i agree....i saw you on your knees pleading to them....they didnt listen....tough luck

Now heaven is full of panga-caring hooligans
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Sinudeity_

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - Kakakaka.

These 'freedom fighters'.
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MGEEZ

People who want to die do not talk about it; they just do it!!!!
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mhlupheki

to be honest i saw him begging with the workers to disperse
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malemaforpresident

Wasted lives it was more like sharpville massacre
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RobinH

Sinu: I could think of a few more apt terms for what you refer to as "freedom fighters" but my mommy would wash my mouth out with Lifebouy.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@Sinudeity_
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - Kakakaka.

These 'freedom fighters'.
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U freedom fighter!,u were at the farm with ur granny planting maize by then.

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misslegal

this country is on the verge of becoming like zimbabwe...
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cornelius

@ Papage - Lonmin is a public listed company so even you can go and buy shares - now is a good time since the share price has tumbled. Big tranches of shares in such companies are usually held by institutional investors, i.e investment banks, provident funds, pension funds, ietc.
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Bebesocs

Mathunjwa I am not sure that your act of running away was correct anyway that says a lot, miners must learn.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@RobinH
Sinu: I could think of a few more apt terms for what you refer to as "freedom fighters" but my mommy would wash my mouth out with Lifebouy.
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LOL!

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Dzel

This is a tragedy people, a serious blemish in our country's history may I ask that we comment with due consideration. Papage I find your comments sad to say the least.

I don't understand how police can fire live ammunition at the protestors, the protestors themselves should bear the brunt of the blame for being armed and posing a threat to the police but I am not sure using live ammunition is the answer either. Either way this is a tragedy along the lines of Sharpville, it is really sad that our police are using live ammo but I suppose this is the legacy Bheki Cele left behind with his Shoot to K.ill war talk.

This is a mess all round, the mine should be shut down until this is resolved.
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Hail

Clearly you have not done it correctly, in other words you have failed them and their families. I do not know how are you going to sleep tonight I mean since it was hard for me last night and I do not know them. How are you going to carry on with your life knowing that you had the power to have change their fate but NO! you run away like a dog with your tail between you legs. Thank you for nothing but one thing for sure it will haunt you for the rest of your life.You will be asking yourself what if, I should have or maybe if but not only you but the whole lot of people that were there. You wanted to go back but you did not so you have thrown the baby with the bathing water!
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newhori

@Galfrend
do you think he can do that? that is why he left. with his statement he is just trying fool the remaing members.

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Dzel

I wonder if this is the last nail in Zuma's coffin, with everything that has gone wrong but having a police force that kills its own people is unacceptable.

Some will argue that he is not responsible but it was under his watch that:

1. A police commissioner was involved in war talk directed at the nation,
2. Andries Tatane was killed, yes those responsible have been apprehended but the police service itself was not spoken to regarding what happened,
3. Just recently the use rubber bullets against civilians outlawed.

Logic decattes that one should ask if police are not allowed to use rubber bulllets then how are they supposed to control a rowdy crowd?

I certainly asked myself that question, did those who make these decisions?

What is the new commisioner saying about this mess or does she prefer an absent style of leadership just like our incompetent president.


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sabza007

I saw this man on different news channels pleading with the protesters to come down from the and disperse peacefully, they didn't listen.He even kneeled down begging them These people committed suicide in unfamiliar way.
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UKUFA!

Viva Zumbabwe Viva!
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babyfats

noma siyafaaaa.......... noma siyafa sifa sithi alukho uvaloooooooooooo alukh' uvalo alukh'uvalo alukh uvalo noma siyaaaaaaaaaaaaaafaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa sifaaaa sithi alukhoooooooooooooooooooo *singing*
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Moffdat

Eish mara die man u buya skelm.
U satile batho mpya e!!!!!
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ILLUMINATED

@Papage

MommaC is protecting status quo coz she's a beneficiary of the Owners. Look no further from UK and US, they started as a Round Table Group or better Anglo group. Cecil Rhodes is the 1st culprit or "white" thug who stole "mineral rights" from South Africa. He was followed by the Oppeinhemers, the very ones who funded the Rivonia trial, using ANC puppets ruling today to disrupt the apartheid regime under Verwoerd. They got a thug from Poland who asssassinated him while he was investigating how they got mineral rights. Nationalisation is a modern terminology of stealing mineral rights coz the government will protect these people.
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babyfats

sale usubya Thixo bawo uzolanda ibandla lakho ayisekho phela lento hai cha ngeke bandla kwanele manje
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Danielrjvvuren

What a noble gesture. Not going to bring back the people you let die. If you where just a bit more tactical or even logical about it you would have saved lives not sit there talking about how you wanted to.
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skhona

this is bullshit, you did this to poor people so you can take over the mine as only prefer union NUM never go through this scene
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MommaC

ILLUMINATED

Well I suppose I am. I do have an annuity with Old Mutual but then again so do millions of other people. Unfortunately, I'm not related to the Oppenheimers or the Rhodes so I'm only benefiting according to the amounts that I have paid in from my own salary cheques.
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Danielrjvvuren

MommaC
But Momma the injustice of it all! How dare you have excess money to put in a annuity fund! We must give it to those who will use it for eating sushi off naked girls and such! How dare you have money! It seems that is the outlook of all and any who fail to see the bigger picture.
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MommaC

Danielrjvvuren

LOL
I have been able to put a little away because I'm not that fond of sushi on human platters :)
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Danielrjvvuren

MommaC
Thats where all my money is going... No more naked lady sushi platters...
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MommaC

Danielrjvvuren

I'm just petrified that all those years of scraping pennies to make sure I had enough to live on when I'm too old and decrepit to work will disappear. Maybe I should have invested in more cigarettes so I would make sure not to live that long - although Uncle Pete used to smoke like a Vrystaat jallopy and he lived to 96 so maybe the cosmic joke would still have been on me
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pierre2012

Its sad many lives were lost but even the miners were wrong. We all need money, but we don't ask for salary increment with kni.ves!!! Why ki.ll fellow workers who are not on strike, y k.ill police officers and security guards who are on duty, why have 6 gu.ns and machet.es. When u declare war, to a certain extent, you should expect a violent response! This whole thing is a shame to the miners, the union leaders, the police force, and the country at large
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Danielrjvvuren

MommaC

hahah made my day! Thanks a young man will take that advice and invest heavily in some nice bourbon or something.
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BELO

I agree that what these guys are being paid is very low. But please don’t think the mine is making all that much. If you take the total running cost in to consideration with the soft price of platinum they are barely surviving. Why do you think some of the other mines are closing some shafts? To save costs. That means retrenchments. Hundreds of workers. The UNIONS want to force the mines to stay in operation. Financially they can’t afford to stay open. Mining is a see-saw business. One day up, next down. Have to save money in the UP to carry you in the Down. Unions don’t explain that to workers.
Rather work than not.
Not saying you must be a slave, but understand your industry before making unrealistic demands for wages.
Can’t wait to see how the ANC will do once they nationalise the mines

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Saks

Mathunjwa is a Salvationist meaning he's a man of god, i meet him a couple of times when he came to preach god's word on certain church functions. he's also an inspiration not only to me buy to may who know him. Read the article and stop talking what comes out of your asses!!
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spatch

BELO

Can’t wait to see how the ANC will do once they nationalise the mines
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No need to wait for that, you can see the results of nationalization of scarce resources in Zimbobwe,,,N Korea...Venezuela...USSR...East Germany...

The anc will either dissapear or become a brutal dictatorship. Take your pick


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shrink7

but this guy really pleaded with those people, it was not done in private but on national TV, but it looks like people on this blog just comment for the sake not for profitable discussions, maybe they are just like those dead miners- ignorant with insignificant IQ
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MUofhekona

if you are the captain and people are not listening to you what should you do.the guy went down to his knees to try to talk to his fellow comrades but they didnt listen.let them go back and fight the police again and we will see who is the boss.
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mozzi

Where were you when shots where fired-----right at the back I believed
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DjEp

The damage is caused already and pointing fingers or not will not bring back the deceased, whether you wanted to go back or not only you and ur consious that knows the thruth as for me sitting here i think you are as guilty. All we can do is to learn from such incidence to prevent a repeat! so to all who were at the protest from the youngest protestor of them all, to NUM, AMCO to the head of police at the scene are all guilty.
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chava9005

The president should be a man enough and apologise for failing the people of South Africa and quit his job. As a leader, you must take responsibility! so is our president. Even Hitler would say the same: we were protecting ourselves from the Jews. Commission of Inquiry my-foot.
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chava9005

Mathunjwa is a coward-blind leader. why did you organise the mob in the fist place? What was going through your head? Stupid decisions!
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Gobe

I fail to understand as to why mioners who had an illegal gathering and armed with illegal weapons would confront and charge at the police like that and expect the police to smile at them. They killed ten peolple including two(2) police men and still expected to be handled with warm hands as if its in the bedroom. I refuse to die with my firearm on. Just like the perpetrators, i have kids to look after. We absolutely have no leadership, NUM and AMCU have betrayed and misled the miners but above all, to our beloved government with its romance orintated allience, you have mastered the art of cheap and dibolic politics as explained by George Owen's Animal Farm. This too shall end. We will record this history so that the children of the victims would know how their parents were killed. Mr Ramaphosa don't you think you should have used your R2 million proactively prior the massacre?
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swona

what I dont understand about this guy and the rest of his organisation, is why did they arm themselfs? if you armed and in protest you putting your life and that of those around in danger, guess the miners have learnet!
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