MANDLA Mandela's ability to have children has been thrown into question by his estranged wife, Tando Mabunu-Mandela, in papers filed in the Mthatha High Court claiming he is infertile.
when tradition ictates thatif you cannot father a child a brother of your has to assist. so i guess you brother was right then. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
Bathong???? Is it necessary to tell people that his bullets do not work????This people are crazy to air such things for every one to know. This Chief and his wayward ways and disrespectfull ways for his first wife is leading to this madness!!!! Shame on him!! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
NOCTORIUS
@tpaz
firing blanks
dats 4 sure baby,but i can help them coz i have more to give Report Abuse
thando do you have proof that he is firing blanks or its just hating speaking .Be careful he could sue your ass and even open a criminal charge of crimen injuria if you don't have a proof. do you have children ? how do you know you are not the one who is eggless? how long are you gonna stay down there in the mud? you are giving him way too much power over you now you are his nanny and turn into a Malema? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Iphone5
bORROW me ur wife brother i will give u what u die to have , My family is known of giving twins > Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
svavava
enough of this mandela attention seekers nonsense Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
ntshware-ke-yawa
this Mandla Mandela should have saved himself for this public embarrassment,but he will not listen. Report Abuse
This Mandela boy makes me sick............mxxm Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
maditaba
This two must just finalize the divorce. Re lapile ke bona. This Thando is no different from Mandla. How bitter will u have to be to tell that to the world. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
fokofpolisiekar
this lady seems to know lot of things, she even knows that Mandla was born out of wedlock?????? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Chichi7
why does the wife have to disrespect the husband like that? What is said behind closed doors remains their especially when you are upset and you want to use it as leverage. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MGEEZ
Thatha Mabhunu, thatha!!!! That is what happens when a woman is fed up!!!! Mandla, please quit whilst you are ahead; otherwise Mabhunu is going to take you to the cleaners!!! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Mgidi
The Mandelas will never disappoint. Ba-busy ne-spotlight iskokoko. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
mubvana
I thought she had a kid with him or i am mistaken.Maybe thats why his brother impregnated his wife to save the mornach from same lol. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Nice1
Chichi7
why does the wife have to disrespect the husband like that? What is said behind closed doors remains their especially when you are upset and you want to use it as leverage
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Did u say disrespect the husband? come on man he has already disrespected himself.
Tell more lady, i'm sure there's more we don't know about this drama king. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
thabiso992000
E mare di Laaitie ke bari yong, yerrr, kgosi? ke yona kgosi ya batho? Anyway i ve never believed in this sh..... of a family living large in the mist of poverty in the name of bogosi, le sematla sa sematla o a busa morafe sis Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
METRIX
Tando Mabunu, you are emotional, if what you uttering is true, when did you know about this. Do you have a medical report to substantiate your claims? You are just the second Khanyi Mbaurest. Rest in peace six feet down we "ll remember you amen. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
xhosagirl
Thando you seem to enjoy seing your name on the papers le wena njee Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
KingMa
Ya, thats life it shows that u cant have everything.. Report Abuse
Mandla Mandela is always right, there has to be a black sheep in the family Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
guiliano
@Sowetan- first you were obsessed with juju and now this mandela guy, hope your paper is selling like hot cakes. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MOTHUBANNYO
You mean to tell me that die laaitjie shoots blanks - Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn it !!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
i can't believe this mandla dude went to Rhodes, gooddemet, as stupid as he is, and an MP nogal....mara bonna in general have a ego problem, no wonder why this Tando knows too much, man tend to get too excited when a woman gives him a constant erection to a point where they tell everything to the wife even deep ‘family’ issues not knowing that it might bite him in the @@ss one day, shame Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MOTHUBANNYO
No bullets in the chamber - a tlise all his wives kwano ke ba thube ................ la tseba mos Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Flemza
What does this has to do with us woman if u want kids Tando Mabunu-Mandela , just say it , come to me you will have qaurtriplets right now before you finish reading this article , whats wrong with you Tando Mabunu-Mandela , if you want kids just say it and I`m willing to donate , leave the poor man alone , its not like the poor man choose to be infertile maybe its an untreatable medical condition , you are a shame on yourself , if a person wants something you say it , if its kids you want just say it , I will give you kids Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
LostGuy
when she was married to him she didnt even utter a single word , i sense jealousy and heart broken, get over it woman and find another Gold digger. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
swona
thats what hapens when u cant satisfy a woman! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Buccerneer10111
These young man must consult with The Spear for some mixtures Report Abuse
Infertility? I won't wish it on anyone, be it a man or a woman. It's always good to have and raise children of your own. Askis Mandla. Anyway, did you take the tests to make sure that what this woman is true? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Tsafendason
Another GOLD DIGGER who was in it for the money in the very first place, we all know she wouldn't have married this loser had he not been Mandela's grandson, sies man, you all stink!!!!!! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
TDK
@Eltybots. You're so damn right. Scorned woman. A woman will enjoy driving all those flashy cars, wearing designer clothes and eating at finest restaurants but when she want to bring you down, she will do so without any hesitation. The advice is to never allow your woman to know ALL your secrets.
@Linday. Nthwe ke moopa. It now makes logic why his brother allegedly planted a seed for him.
I am so interested to hear Anais' comment. I know Rraditaba from Sunday World called Ngoako Malatji will hunt her. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
madamx
Shame thando is still hurting.
Why a ntsha diphiri? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@madamx
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I would like to propose something! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Shredder
@Zulumacansi
Ayivuki
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Not necessarily true. You may find that iyavuka, but the sperms are not fertile. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
zino
@lindsay
no proof is required just follow all articles published about his marriages,then u kan believe that he is firing blanks.
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When they got married it was bettween them, so why include us now. We don"t care if he's infertile or what. Get over it and move on with ur life Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Mkhuler
Sies, your intentions are clear, You wanted to divide the Mandelas, I think somebody sent you or ur Nandi nuka is the problem?You don't belong to the royal family, just leave!!!! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Speackup
I now fully understands the saying "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MakgwebelakaKokoYaManoti!
In the latest papers Mabunu-Mandela further alleges that Mandela is not even the rightful chief of Mvezo.
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Ka nnete ena borena boo ha bo ya molokela hoba ke ngwana wa moradi wa haMadiba,ntleng ha ho re ha a tswale teng le ha a ka nyala ha lekgolo ha a sena pelehi teng ha e yona.Ha a leke ho lokisa le mo-sa-di eo a nang le yena.
I can't understand some of the comments here. Either people haven't been following what is happening or they are just not paying attention.
When Tando married Mandla, he had nothing. She was actually supporting him. Then he became abusive and started sleeping around so she divorced him. They were married in community of property so everything that came into the marriage was to be divided equally. Mandla then tried to hide his money by putting it into a trust fund for the child that isn't even his. How can Tando now be accused of being a 'gold digger' and putting stuff in that is not relevant. If the kid isn't his then it is relevant because the kid has money that belongs to her Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Cl!ck
@ Sowetan
Where's an article about Julius Malema or Steve Hofmyer??.. This BioSlim Mandela is getting boring now..
I got perfect muthi for you my brother to make babies just give me a shout...
It is very ambarasing for a man not to be able to make babies especially if you come from a royal family... shame sorry broe Report Abuse
So him and his brother were pumping the same chick. Nxa!
Having 3somes maybe...a disgrace to the Mandela name and most importantly Madiba.
These fools should be in jail. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Makhosini0408
Indaba zabantu abayi two. I always wonder why makumnandi, we do not hear anything and makubheda, we are bombareded with such juicy titbits or is it a case of sour grapes or a case of a woman scorned? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Blackthought
Can't go around saying such horrible things about other people (men or women). This is just cruel! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Chichi7
15 Aug 2012Nice1
Chichi7
why does the wife have to disrespect the husband like that? What is said behind closed doors remains their especially when you are upset and you want to use it as leverage
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Did u say disrespect the husband? come on man he has already disrespected himself.
Tell more lady, i'm sure there's more we don't know about this drama king.
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People do not seem to understand that in trying to revenge and take someone down, you also take yourself down. Holding onto anger makes you a prisoner of animosity and deprives you of joy. There is no need to let the world know what is happening and she looks like an extremely bitter woman. If the husband has disrespected himself, he has done it on his own accord and there is no need for her to keep shoving. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
DJWinner
Does this mean his boys don't have tails or they can't swim upstream? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
CONDOMLarge
lol, ke basadi.I 1ns had a GF like that who when we broke up,she went out telling people gore m nt gud in bed,nt a gud kisser,wet ma self @ night after booze,m sleeping on a skorokoro bed.LMAO why ddnt she say all those thinx when we were still a couple.eish weman Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
lindsay
@MommaC
nobody is disputing that they did things or accumulated wealth together using a Mandela name of course but how long is she gonna keep it up mudslinging him there is a reason why there is a phrase never argue with a fool now she does look like Mandla to people. it seems to me by the time they actually divide the property there won't be anything left to divide at the rate Mandla is going. what if Grimauld has already emptied the trust fund the same way Mandla manage to empty the bank account without his first wife's knowledge? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
zino
@SOLUTIONS
Great to hear someone like that can't reproduce, it is just better for society, he is not breeding material.
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lol he does not deserve to be a father. sure bosso Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
CONDOMLarge
lol bt if it is true Mandla,come to me boy.i will futhisa,faka isipeyiti n will give u Tshigwane.after dat o tlo shapa trible n even get pregnant yourself Smindlo.come to Dr Zifozonke.lol Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MommaC
lindsay
The kid's trust fund can't be touched by the lawyers. He has put the majority of the money into the trust fund and that is why she is questioning why.
I fully support her. It is about time that SA women took a stand for what is rightfully theirs instead of being told to just shut up and do what the man wants. This is about more than just the money, it is about the morals and the way women are expected to just be grateful for any crumbs they are given. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
eisleben
That is not fair play. Where is the referee? She hit him below the belt. Red card, please. Beetch please. Which man in his right mind will drag himself in such a mess that he would like other people that his bullets are harmless. HARMLESS PIECE OF FUN. Report Abuse
shame maan, so Mandla's "soldiers" just couldnt find the way home no matter how hard they tried? haao bathong but to air such things in public? what is wrong with these people nah? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Nanaki
Yoo this lady must deal with her anger, I mean why bring the fertile part mara. She didn’t complain much about him being not fertile while still with him..sis man just deal with the divorce and get on with your life. you like being in the papers Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MakgwebelakaKokoYaManoti!
Mohlomong mo-sa-di wa Mandla o tlameha ho nyolla keto ha nyane feela. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
DJWinner
I'm selling sperm_ at R3000 per teaspoon. They can contact me; mine is only making twins according to my customers. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Mellow
Shame Mandla so you have lazy swimmers no wonder your brothers are making them babies on your behalf aish but you still a nuisance man and it wasnt necessary to announce his infidelity to the whole world haaike Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
lindsay
@ MommaC
i agree with you women should fight for what is rightfully theirs but at what cost and what level do you have to stand to? and does that include fighting through the media for all to see your dirty laundry?
besides do you see her getting exactly what rightfully hers? what if Mandla spends all the money and then file bankruptcy is she going down with him. the guy is a looser and an idiot period Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
LadyZi
I'm with MommaC here, you guys don't understand that Thando comes from a very-well off family and when she met Mandla he wasn't Chief yet and she was earning a very good salary and then suddenly she had to become a housewife. She deserves each and every cent she and Mandla made together...and uMandla akanaright yonikeza lomali kumntana ongengowakhe nobangowakhe and she wasn't the on who had saying the child wasn't his, nguMandla who put in himself in this position...uThando yena must get whats hers... Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Comeback
@ Eisleben LOL, she hit him below the belt, I don't feel sorry for Mandla, he brought this upon himself using & changing women like underwear as if they got no feelings
however, Tando you need to let go, we've all been hurt akuqali ngawe, the difference is how you deal with it, cut your losses and move on, I was even suprised she's such a pretty woman, why hang on to this resentment, now I clearly don't see the difference btwn Tando & Mandla Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
OLDLADY4
Ei, these new kind of celebs that think we really want to know all the reasons for their divorces and multiple marriages. We all have our own relationship problems. What makes their so special? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
Thando I truly admire your strength to fight so fiercely against this character, considering many women who are dealing with high profile abusers would have given up the fight or even fled the country, but you stand firm and stick to your guns, I am awed by your fighting spirit for social justice and your dignity, you fight fiercely like a tigress and you are on target, you deserve a medal, you deserve an honour for taking on the powerful bully in the land, I so so admire and I am so so right behind you and praying that this nightmare will day be over and you could get on your with your life and become the best you can be, for now, ngalamazwi ndithi yomelela qhawekazi!!! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MommaC
lindsay
She is not fighting through the media. The media are picking up on the paperwork filed with the courts and putting it in. It is public information and she has no say over the media's use of it.
That is part of the problem. He isn't going bankrupt, he has put the money into a trust fund for a child that isn't even his so she cannot touch it. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
Mandla must just come see me and I will give him imbiza so that he can stop firing blanks. Udinga ukuchatha. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Snitch
Oh shame man, u shud have just consulted your Wise Men as in the Kingdom, like previous king abo Authurs regime, to go and search for real men out there in the Community ''Who can really do Lamcimbi 4 u man'' easy like, some of us are equipped with AK's 47.....first shots are boys.
@MorenaWaPolelo
Bathong???? Is it necessary to tell people that his bullets do not work????
------------------this is another typical question expected from a chauvinist who believes that men have more rights than women which they can use and abuse at whim, as I didn't see you complaining when zuma said he married all these women cause his first wife couldn't produce children, and God did he go on a rampage making babies to the expense of tax payers?
Thando yomelela uqiniseke ngabanga akho sisi, you inspire so many many still marginalised women to fight for their rights. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@maneater
when tradition ictates thatif you cannot father a child a brother of your has to assist. so i guess you brother was right then.
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I like a man who sticks with his culture even when it doesn't work in its favour, unlike the cultural charlatans who are cherry picking from our culture. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Mellow
Shame Mandla so you have lazy swimmers - LOVL @lazy swimmers, but the last time I checked our swimmers won gold at the olympics mos, lol Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Mellow
@somaartakeit LMAO girl you know am talking about bhuti Mandlas swimmers they' apparently into tanning they just dont do freestyles, butterfly or backstrokes hahahahahaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa so sad rerig Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
I think the name Mandela is getting into Mandla's thick head, hence he is always in the press for all the wrong reasons disgracing the ole man's great name and legacy, why can't he come to the party and concl this divorce so that Thando can also move on with her life with a man in her life if she has any and produce beautiful babies and be a great mom and exemplary to so many women in this country who have to endure men like mandla mandela? Report Abuse
This man must let go "ha zikho bantwana" Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
LoL @Mellow Mandla is breast-stroking alright, he's now on his third bird since the divorce but Ms Grinauld is having non of it, she takes the fruit from his brother lovl, that must have gone straight and deflated Mandla's huge ego, and after this, I don't think any (sane) woman would want anything to do him, Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Winilen
He needs imbiza & uzoba sharp
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Do you think a traditionalist like mandla has not already dubbed onto imbiza's? Mandla needs to grow up and be a man, that's all that he needs, Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Winilen
He needs imbiza & uzoba sharp
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Do you think a traditionalist like mandla has not already dubbed onto imbiza's? Mandla needs to grow up and be a man, that's all that he needs,
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Phela izimbiza azifani, kumele athole ugobho luzomklina, bese athole umavula kuvaliwe awuhlanganise nobisi bese ayachatha lapho sihlala kumnyama kubomvu. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Cl!ck did you have a dream about me wena:-) Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
RubberLeggs
mxm, this dude is a complete disgrace, seems like the story does connect, he simply said yesterday..'I never touch her physcally and sexually...he knew that his d!ck is a looser mosi, somebody please put me on the boxing gloves, I want a street fight with Mandla. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Intomb'omxhosa
Eish Tando sis all the good men are Gays and we are left with infertile gentlemen only......very sad indeed!!! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
ProudlyNigerian
With the rate at which the population numbers are increasing in Africa.I feel that it is about time African governments impose population conrtrol laws e.g
1: 1 man ,1 wife (polygamy should be outlawed)
2: 1 couple ,maximum of 2 children
3: New couples who have been previously married to other partners and have had more than one child in their previous relationships will not be allowed to reproduce with their new spouse.They will however be allowed to adopt.
4: Single Men and women will be given fnancial rewards if they submit to voluntary sterilization.
5 Couples who voluntarily choose to have 1 child will be given financial rewards
Any African who goes agaisnt these laws will be prosecuted and incarcerated for 5 years.
I know some of this potential laws sound crazy but there is going to be food scarcity in the near future and the only way to lessen it's impact is to reduce the population especially in countries with a rapdily growing population like Nigeria ,Ethopia,Egypt ,DRC and South Africa
Here is a link to Africa's current population staistic for each country,it is very scary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_population
Most of these population explosion is due to the "stupid" and regressive cultures being practiced on the African continent.Something needs to be done otherwise we will all regret it in future. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@RubberLeggs it was one of his brothers who made that remark when mandla said the child was a result of an affair with one of his brothers, mandla belongs to the 'big irresponsible d!cks club' whose members feel the need to share it with the world, hence his d!ck has not rested since his divorce, now we even know he is infertile (big empty d!ck), he is beginning to be like zuma whose d!ck is most talked about than his deeds iro his presidential responsibilities, I feel sorry for the clan whom he is chief to, sies can you imagine this!!! fortunately for Xhosas we are not into this chieftan thing at least majority of us, Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
ProudlyNigerian
With the rate at which the population numbers are increasing in Africa.I feel that it is about time African governments impose population conrtrol laws e.g
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If you can go back to N!geria and suggest these dom laws of yours will be a good thing, while u there make sure that u don't come back to our country. Please also encourage yo brothers not to come to the south to overpopulate us. I am sure we clear on this issue. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@ProudlyNigerian, I agree with you wholeheartedly, what Africa needs is education not more breeding, I always say we should like other advanced nations do away with cultures which are detrimental to our development as ppl, eg polygamy this is a sham disguised as culture to suppress development of girl child, I don't know how Africans think they can compete with best in the world when 50% of its human resources is dis-empowered and entrapped in primitive cultures.
I seem to remember reading this mandla character saying he was for ukwethwala culture, a culture where young girls are kidnapped and forced into marriage to complete strangers, hence I often wonder if a so called chief can agree with something this regressive, what informs the mind behind deciding who should be a chief for the clan? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
Gwedenedala how is it that you are not able to reason like a mature educated person? Nija has done nothing to deserve your drivel, please get a life or better still crawl back into the cave whence you came from that way you free oxygen you are busy stealing now, Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Tasto
Mandla must simply step down and let Ndaba take his place! Can't have two bulls in one kraal!! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
oh btw ProudlyNigerian you would be pleased to know that in Tunisia the women and liberal men are also calling for outlawing of polygamy , it would be interesting to see how this will pan out, I also wish N.Africa would do away with barbaric culture of female genital mutilation, the UN has declared this human rights abuse/and its illegal in developed countries to perform such practice. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Cl!ck
@ somaartakeit
I dreamt about meeting you one day.. But your avator looks like a man hiding behind a curtain.. *Wondering*
@Lehido
this guy is a d!ck
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With a d!ck that echos.......... not too sure where the sound comes from ...............
then maybe she should ask her attorney to ask the court to reprimand the clerk of the court who leaked such private matter to media because a divorce is a private matter not public interest Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Papage
The brother helped him, then yena a phapha by telling that the child is not his, in our culture if the elders find out that the boy is incapable, they ask the brother to go in, same applies to women, if the wife is not capable they ask the younger sister to allow the sister husband to have a child with. So the Chiefs is too much of himself Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
Lindsay if I may, its interesting for me and I will take a risk and say for many Xhosa speaking ppl to learn about mandlas conduct as he is chief and as a result exerts influence over his subjects. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
There is a medical solution to this which has helped a lot of people in dire need solving such humiliating problems. The procedure called IVF is done by gynaecologist, esp. in SPAIN they would help you to have your own child using your own sperms. This information might take away this stress my bro. I feel with you , please consult, help is available for you. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Tasto
Mandla must simply step down and let Ndaba take his place! Can't have two bulls in one kraal!!
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its not as if we need chiefs as it is there are too many chiefs and very few Indians, mandla should just act in his portfolio as an MP as tax payers pay him a shyte load of money and he is not producing any results. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@sgubhusenkwishi all that mandla is a brain transplant as is evident his current is now working, and the reason he is chasing after every skirt is because he lacks self esteem unfortunately for him this has exposed his being infertile, I don't know why he didn't work out his problems and sort professional help, but then that requires that he is a responsible adult, mandla should ride on his family as much as he can cause once Madiba is no more, this name will be history not a benefit and profit making project, mandla has no shame unemikhwa ngathi yinkwenkwe, Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
ProudlyNigerian
@somaartakeit..don't pay any attention to Ngwedane'endala.People like him are not aware that we are in this together as a race , a continent and a people.
In regards to tunisia ,i wish them luck.It is going to be hard for them to win because they mix religion with politics.By the way North Africa is not the only place where female c!rcumcision takes place,it also happens in west Africa.My younger sister was c!rcumcised thanks to my over conservative mum but the younger members of my family protested against the elders a few years back and my family has now stopped that barbaric practice.
You are right about the fact that education plays a big role in changing the mindset of people.I am all for African cultures but only for progressive practices.Another alarming thing is that countries like the USA ,UAE and South Korea are now buying up arable land in Africa to secure their food security at the expense of Africans.
People are not really paying attention to what is going on now but in a few decades we will start to feel the pinch when as Africans we no longer have access to our own arable lands and all the farm produce are being shipped off to non African countries.Mass scale Agriculture and systematic population reduction is what African Governments should be focusing on now to ensure the survival of our people. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@ProudlyNigerian, most times I try to ignore them but sometimes the good guys must stand up to the bad guys for the good of human race, if we allow the Ngwedane's divisive comments we will have another holocust or a repeat of Ruanda episode in our hands,
It annoys me when SAns (now that we 'think' we are free) mistreat other African migrants and make xenophobic remarks against them, do you know Africans struggle to be accepted in other continents? Russia is on a full blown ethnic cleansing spree and majority of its victims are Africans with little to no convictions? Do you know that Israel recently made remarks about booting out African migrants from there? Any country in Africa SA incl is FIRST a home of every country African. I get sick in my stomach, that ignorant SAns have joined into the xenophobic bandwagon, I hate it so much, especially when I consider where we come from. Does it not amaze you that its almost always victims of prejudice themselves who later become xenophobs? Anyway apart from that.../
and with regards to buying of arable land in Africa, I must put it to you, what's the difference with what African leaders today are doing iro pawning our resources, and what African leaders (chiefs) in the olden days did iro slave trade and selling off the land in return for mirrors and bottles of whiskeys? I tell you my brother African ppl are their own worse enemies for their failure to learn from past mistakes. That is why I say Africa needs education like it needs oxygen to cure our ppl of this ignorance which only serves to destruct our advancement as a race.
the only power you have wena Gwendedala is to pollute the forum in reality you have no power nor influence iro whether foreigners stay in SA or leave, you just expose your ignorance, sometimes I look at man like you and their reasoning capacity and bahaviours and I say the Bible needs to be edited, there is simply no way a person with a reasoning capacity such as yourself shld be considered a head of a household, as the Bible suggests. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
and btw Gwendedala how do you feel about the fact that it was the gov that you vote for and are prepared to die for that opened out border gates to immigrants? they screwed you straight in the eye enjoy it, fool :-) Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Tasto
If the child is Ndaba's child then a young Mandela has been forced to exile again !! Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
ProudlyNigerian
@Somaartakeit..don't worry about it sister,the sensible and objective immigrants in SA know that only a few SAns are like this.There are xenophobes in every African country not only SA.It is always best to ignore them so that we can get on with tackling real issues.Most SAns i meet in person everyday are the nicest people i have ever met so i don't pay any attention to these "internet taxi rank" bullies who try so hard to appear xenophobic.
In regards to Isreal,they did deport the African immigrants(mostly Sudanese).They also gave each deportee about $1000.If we can get our act together ,elect good leaders and contribute to our continent positively there will be no need for any of our people to migrate to any country and be treated like vermin.I really don't know why Africans migrate to Russia because the economic prospects of that country is quite dim.
I concur , Africans are their own worst enemies, corruption ,nepotism, tribalism ,xenophobia ,petty jealousy ,selfishness and racism has robbed us of our economic growth as a continent and a people.We have the resources but lack the collective understanding to utilize to our own benefit as well as that of our future generations. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@ProudlyNigerian the Israel and African migrants is dire than that, the report I read it cited Eritreans and Somalians as main African migrants, I ask myself, if the AU (HQ) is based in Ethiopia close to were human destruction is happening, why any of our African leaders haven't spoken out against this and the AU taking actions to curb this?
the other day BBC world aired a documentary, where interviewed a guy running an NGO that is looking into migrant issues, that guy said there are vast numbers of unmarked graves of African migrants who captured and murdered for their organs by body parts traffickers, apparently this practice is rife in Egypt, why has AU not done anything against this?
I also want to venture and propose that, the country which produces most refugees and trafficked humans, the gov of that country should be hauled to the HAGUE and answer on a charge for human rights violations.
In the meantime Africa's only salvation is education, cause without that no one is any wiser and our ppl will continue to suffer consequences of ignorance which is sweeping through the continent. That is why I am not at peace at all with anc regime for reducing SA's education into shambles, living our children out to become the lost generation, Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeit is a hypocrit
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this coming from you, I take it as a complement LOVL and btw when you do manage to catch your brains as they come back from the taxi rank, just realise that you have just proven my case, that you are anc lost generation, uneducated social misfit polluting the forum, you are not upsetting me if that was your goal plan, it will need more brain power for you to get me annoyed, you are just living up to the believe that you are not educated, Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Mellow
@Sowetan honestly now there are just too many idiots on the blog do something about this overgrown babies already how old are this ppl anyways? Gosh so immature Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
ProudlyNigerian
The analysis you gave there is quite an eye opener,i never thought of it that way.Body part trafficking is unfortunately now a big business in Northerner Africa.There quite a number of East Europeans as well as German syndicates working in those areas and buying body parts from the locals.During the Libyan uprising a lot of African immigrants were slaughtered under the guise of them being Qaddafi mercenaries.
On the African continent in terms of refugees ,i believe Democratic Republic of Congo & Zimbabwe comes first while in terms of illegal immigrants i believe Nigeria comes first.I will give an arm to see the leaders of Nigeria hang for high treason.These guys have been looting since forever but no one can touch them because they are protected the Mossad in Abuja.As long as the oil flow to the west is not interrupted no one can touch Nigerian leaders. Report Abuse
@lindsay, He deserves it that Bustard! Tando deserves more respect Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
eisleben
@Ngwedane'endala
C'mon, be a sport. You are such a childish bastard. There is always the difference between growing old and growing up. You did not know/value the benefit of cut & paste all the time and you just have to abuse it. At this age. At 13 you are old enough to differentiate between irritating stupidity and undiluted brainlessness. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
This is the crux of the matter ProudlyNigerian, when black Africans start valuing themselves and demand best service and respect from office bearers they elect only then will the West be empowered to deal with despots here who are causing refugees, I say we give these ppl permission to abuse us, they use colonialism card (guilt trip) to get us to submit to them, whilst as you say they are looting the continent, I was shocked to learn (after the Arab Spring) how much leaders of that region have looted from their respective countries since they assumed power, Africa is riddled with genes of Mobuto Sesekos because we are meak race, we tolerate abuse.
The other day I was shocked by behaviour of some so called educated SAns when Mandla visited London, I happen to have been there, some of them have doctorate degrees but they were groveling to him like they were proper peasants it was actually pathetic, not that Mandla was spouting anything of substance more than he was trying to mimics the way Mandela speaks, that guy has nothing to offer he has no personality nor charisma I fail to understand how he became elected to be a chief nevermind MP. it is this calibre of leaders that we (black Africans) elect which makes other nations/races to not respect us.
Now after the peasants in the EC elected Mandla as a chief, do you know what he did to them? he desecrated some graves and when called upon, he didn't' apologise he said it was the bones of the animal, now I ask myself where do Africans (black) get all this patience to take all this abuse from the leaders they elect? This guy brings in a new meaning to what a leaders should be or stands for, I am afraid if this guy were to have his way, SA would be like Swaziland.
Igama lama khosikazi malibongwe x 5.
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Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
and BTW ProudlyNigerian, I am tempted to say that our leaders elected by us are habitual failures, Kofi Anan comes to mind, here was this first black African holding a post of influence in one of hte worlds organisation (UN), what exactly has this guy achieved for Africa during his tenure there? And now he want to go rushing into Syria and calm down conflict there? does he really expects the Arabs to take him serious considering ongoing conflicts in Africa which he (Kofi) did little to nothing to quel? Can you see even how when the world gives an African a chance to prove his mettle, we fail? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
I don't mean to give anyone a fright about my views but even now look at our president, SA the most influential country in the continent had to have a standard 2 president who is corrupt and clueless, now spot the trend of failing nations, look at developed countries, most candidates in-charge of their countries have impressive education credentials, just what the hell is wrong is us black Africans? Why do we always have to be saddled with yoyo leaders who are incapable of dreaming up one original idea and implement it? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeit
and BTW ProudlyNigerian, I am tempted to say that our leaders elected by us are habitual failures, Kofi Anan comes to mind, here was this first black African holding a post of influence in one of hte worlds organisation (UN), what exactly has this guy achieved for Africa during his tenure there? And now he want to go rushing into Syria and calm down conflict there? does he really expects the Arabs to take him serious considering ongoing conflicts in Africa which he (Kofi) did little to nothing to quel? Can you see even how when the world gives an African a chance to prove his mettle, we fail?
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There was nothing Kofi Anna could do for Africa because he was undermined by the US as the SG of the UN. He had little say there. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
Even our esteemed Free State premier was proud to announce to the meak nation that those who want this president to vacate office fear him cause he knows their secrets, which means he is not there on merit but on his ability to blackmail potential contenders, just how morally bankrupt the anc as an organisation has become, when he have leaders speaking publicly in his way? what does this say for our future as a country/nation? that the one who can throw dirt the most to opposition keeps the crown? I thought the leaders should be valued on capabilities to deliver, and should have integrity? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Ngwedendala why then accept the post? for the money and glory? where is integrity in this? or self respect? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeit
Even our esteemed Free State premier was proud to announce to the meak nation that those who want this president to vacate office fear him cause he knows their secrets, which means he is not there on merit but on his ability to blackmail potential contenders, just how morally bankrupt the anc as an organisation has become, when he have leaders speaking publicly in his way? what does this say for our future as a country/nation? that the one who can throw dirt the most to opposition keeps the crown? I thought the leaders should be valued on capabilities to deliver, and should have integrity?
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Even the current contenders for the presidential post are not fit for the job. The day we elect the president who is educated and not a dictator is the day we will prosper as South Africans. At the moment we have power mongers. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
You know Kofi Anan whilst still SG of the UN, he reminded me so much of the beauty queens who are told to smile for the cameras, they dont' even know why they are smiling but they are smiling whilst Rome (Africa) burns in the case of Anan. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
He accepted the post because he wanted to be the first African to lead the UN in history, thats why he had resigned in Syria coz he was not adding any value there. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
The day we start trading amongst ourselves in Africa and not relying on the world is the day we will prosper because most of the worlds raw material are from Africa. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeit
Even the current contenders for the presidential post are not fit for the job. The day we elect the president who is educated and not a dictator is the day we will prosper as South Africans. At the moment we have power mongers.
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This is exactly what scares the living day lights out of me, that as a nation we have become and are settling for such poor leadership, this is one of the main characteristics found in countries which have failed and are generating poverty and producing refugees of all sorts and everyone except politically connect is super rich and is viciously amassing wealth for themselves. If SA is not gonna get up from this slumber soon we are heading for very very rough ride, for one we are not going to hold on our status (as economic power/influence) Africa for very long, then there world must brace itself to receive SAn refugees, Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Ngwedane'endala
The day we start trading amongst ourselves in Africa and not relying on the world is the day we will prosper because most of the worlds raw material are from Africa.
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what are you talking about? our chiefs have sold us to Ch!na, like the chief in the olden days sold slaves to the West and pawned our mineral resources, hence there is more calls for Africa to wake up, get education and empower her ppl so they can compete with the best in the best in the world. but I don't know if this can happen in our life time. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
MommaC
lindsay
It isn't 'leaked' it is in the public domain. Anything that goes through the courts and does not relate to rape or a minor is accessible by any citizen. They can request that it is held 'in camera' but they then have to have very good reason because the courts have to remain completely open to scrutiny. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
And as many of you may have by now picked up the scent, that this regime is not interested in empowering ordinary SAns but perpetuation of enslavement of our ppl, hence sadtu is helping angie to destroy education system of our children, and we as parents should be ashamed for allowing this to happen.
Otherwise how else can one explain that the ruling party is comfortable, I say they are comfortable cause they have not fired anyone for education crisis in Limpopo and countrywide, how is the ruling party comfortable with presidential family (former and current) creating destitute (is it 700?) employees of Aurora who are put into poverty by reckless behaviour of both mandela zondwa and zuma's nephew,
now I want you to analyse this, this 700 men who prolly have at least one wife and 2 kids (minimum) are jobless, thsi means they cant pay schooling requirements for their children, is this not perpetuation of slavery? Now how is it possible for black SAns who are most affecting by this scrouge to vote for this? Do this majority have no values or self respect or they have resigned themselves to being just mere slaves to the new black elite? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
@somaartakeit
The problem is that no one in our leaders has the country's interest at heart, even the emerging parties all they think about is power so that they can bring down the ANC but they don't have a plan on how are they going to make the people of this country prosper. Our Education system is nowhere, I think its time to look back the kind of education that ws offered to the likes of OR Tambo because I believe that they were taught better than the current generation. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
I think its high time that we as ordinary SAns sit down and have serious talks about the future of this country and we must not align ourselves to any organisation. Our main aim will be to challenge the serious issues that our gvt is failing on. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
So Ngwedane;endala you like many SAns have concluded or can see that no one in our leaders has the country's interests to heart, so I put to you and many others who espouse this view, which btw is not too far from the truth, which is why it prolly its so painful to face this face, why are we voting these ppl then? why have we not pushed for civil rights organisations instead?
I said the other day, every country can effectively manage its affairs without politicians, cause they all seem to be after one thing (power), I am pondering an idea of how we can rid ourselves these parasites (politicians) and their families, so we can get with advancing our cause as a country and as ppl.
I also suggested the other that they politicians should do this as ONLY as part time and paid a fraction fo what they get, for the rest they should all get real jobs. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
Now I fully concur with not aligning ourselves to political parties that's a step towards getting rid of politicians and making them available to market (ie they must find real jobs) cause this joke is not funny anymore,
Even when look at developed country, its same crooks of different statue, I can not bring my head around why young western children must die in Afghan, if politicians feel strong enough about a cause they must their own children in the forefront, that's why I am also against military. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
Military should be there as a defense not attack mechanism, I also once said in a debate about conflict and violence in Africa which was held by my esteemed western colleagues, I shocked them when I said that, the difference btwn Africa and the West iro violence and conflict is that ours is disorganised, hence rebels, theirs is organised glamourised hence NATO, they did not believe their ears I also told them at that debate so long as parents allow their children to join the army they contribute to what we all claim to be against, war/conflict which causes refugees. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeit
So Ngwedane;endala you like many SAns have concluded or can see that no one in our leaders has the country's interests to heart, so I put to you and many others who espouse this view, which btw is not too far from the truth, which is why it prolly its so painful to face this face, why are we voting these ppl then? why have we not pushed for civil rights organisations instead?
I said the other day, every country can effectively manage its affairs without politicians, cause they all seem to be after one thing (power), I am pondering an idea of how we can rid ourselves these parasites (politicians) and their families, so we can get with advancing our cause as a country and as ppl.
I also suggested the other that they politicians should do this as ONLY as part time and paid a fraction fo what they get, for the rest they should all get real jobs
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The problem with the Civil rights organisations is that they only act when there is something wrong, they don't challenge in every corner. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
@Ngwedane'endala the civil rights need to be bolstered in other words empowered by the citizens, they can't just act by themselves, we must push/bring issues for them to take forward, and when we do this diligently they will challenge things diligently, and that will give a would be corrupt politician something to think about.../ Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
They will never send their children to join the army because they only want the people they don't care about to d!e. They use gvt resources to attack the civilians that are against them, they will pay the army very well so that it will do their dirty work with pleasure. The only luck that we have in this country is the independence of the media otherwise we would be in deep trouble like the other African countries. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
Anyway as I now have to dash, my closing comments on this is that, we as citizens really need to think long and hard about trimming down the lard (politicians) during these hard hitting economic times, we must consider retrenching them and save ourselves a bundle which must be diverted to development of youth programmes, programmes which will enable this youth to one day become economic active and contribute to the national kitty, I mean really guys, we can do this, some politicians have already shown us that the country can function fully without their input, by not appearing in parly when they should, by not contributing anything to their portfolio with view to advance our national cause, after all we are paying them, so let us think about trimming off the lard in these tough economic times, its like in your house hold, some of you since economic down turn, have cut down on luxuries, you do most things yourselves, so why not do same for the national budget and save costs? Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
Ngwedane'endala
I would love to continue with you on this issue tomorrow, drive safely. Report Abuse
Aug 15, 2012
somaartakeit
No worries Ngwedane'endala except for tomorrow for majority of time I am not near the computer as I am working a project which is taking all of my time, but am not complaining cause really someone has to win bread, lol I consider myself to be amongst the lucky ones many will give anything for a job, so I have no right to complain but I am not here tomorrow, but you will be okay, you can suggest this discussion to other guys, eg Dzel, Makhosini, Mellow, MC and other smart ppl with view to divise a strategy to implement our ideas, we can not allow ourselves to be shortchanged by politicians, esp given that most of them have education, I don't wanna be a mampara no more, so I say we must retrench politicians, we are cost cutting and we are doing this for the good of this nation. Report Abuse
Yheey Mandla I warned you, if you remember I said never touch those graves and you call the bones of the elderly the bones of the cows...Mandla I said to you "Ingqumbo yezinyanya". I warned you that kusezilalini phaya.
Mandla who is your mother? go to her and ask for some advise.
Tata Mandela named Mandla's first wife Nodayimani( Lo uzofuna imali apha..she wants our diamonds) Thando is from the family, Mandla you must ask for forgiveness from Mabhunu family I advise you again.
Tata Mandela named Mandla's first child "Qheya" that is vile, do we still use names to describe our nationality? Do we still describe people like that? Hence we have ANC that is RACIST and TRIBALISTIC.
Yacaci ikati emhlophe ehlungwini. Mandla take my advise go to your mother's. Report Abuse
Aug 16, 2012
Bebesocs
Thando must write a book about this self -made chief, please Thando when you write this book tell us more about his perfomance at home. Tell us how he bullied you. Write about his jewels.
Mandla did you love your grandmother Evelyn the way you love your grandad Rolihlahla?
You know nothing about that region , you just came this morning and you come and claim ubukhosi, you should learn to respect us. Report Abuse
Aug 22, 2012
Yotywa
Eish this is not good, neh. Never anger a woman. Report Abuse
Aug 23, 2012
wendyyah
seems this mandela Chief is failing to control his wives. Report Abuse
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tpaz
firing blanksReport Abuse
maneater
when tradition ictates thatif you cannot father a child a brother of your has to assist. so i guess you brother was right then.Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
Bathong???? Is it necessary to tell people that his bullets do not work????This people are crazy to air such things for every one to know. This Chief and his wayward ways and disrespectfull ways for his first wife is leading to this madness!!!! Shame on him!!Report Abuse
NOCTORIUS
@tpazfiring blanks
dats 4 sure baby,but i can help them coz i have more to give
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Lesoba-Le-Boya
Nyopa fela e ratang Basadi...Report Abuse
McLoving
I don't understand this story.Anyway I'll keep on reading the comments as the day goes by.Report Abuse
eltybots
never mess with the wife cos e would spill the beans.Report Abuse
SOLUTIONS
Great to hear someone like that can't reproduce, it is just better for society, he is not breeding material.Report Abuse
Mokwepa
A child is from the Lord,no one can make a child,no one is firing blanks.Someone need to ask God for grace to have a child.
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lindsay
thando do you have proof that he is firing blanks or its just hating speaking .Be careful he could sue your ass and even open a criminal charge of crimen injuria if you don't have a proof. do you have children ? how do you know you are not the one who is eggless? how long are you gonna stay down there in the mud? you are giving him way too much power over you now you are his nanny and turn into a Malema?Report Abuse
Iphone5
bORROW me ur wife brother i will give u what u die to have , My family is known of giving twins >Report Abuse
svavava
enough of this mandela attention seekers nonsenseReport Abuse
ntshware-ke-yawa
this Mandla Mandela should have saved himself for this public embarrassment,but he will not listen.Report Abuse
Zulumacansi
AyivukiReport Abuse
cutedogg
This Mandela boy makes me sick............mxxmReport Abuse
maditaba
This two must just finalize the divorce. Re lapile ke bona. This Thando is no different from Mandla. How bitter will u have to be to tell that to the world.Report Abuse
fokofpolisiekar
this lady seems to know lot of things, she even knows that Mandla was born out of wedlock??????Report Abuse
Chichi7
why does the wife have to disrespect the husband like that? What is said behind closed doors remains their especially when you are upset and you want to use it as leverage.Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
hell hath no fury like a woman scornedReport Abuse
MGEEZ
Thatha Mabhunu, thatha!!!! That is what happens when a woman is fed up!!!! Mandla, please quit whilst you are ahead; otherwise Mabhunu is going to take you to the cleaners!!!Report Abuse
Mgidi
The Mandelas will never disappoint. Ba-busy ne-spotlight iskokoko.Report Abuse
mubvana
I thought she had a kid with him or i am mistaken.Maybe thats why his brother impregnated his wife to save the mornach from same lol.Report Abuse
Nice1
Chichi7why does the wife have to disrespect the husband like that? What is said behind closed doors remains their especially when you are upset and you want to use it as leverage
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Did u say disrespect the husband? come on man he has already disrespected himself.
Tell more lady, i'm sure there's more we don't know about this drama king.
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thabiso992000
E mare di Laaitie ke bari yong, yerrr, kgosi? ke yona kgosi ya batho? Anyway i ve never believed in this sh..... of a family living large in the mist of poverty in the name of bogosi, le sematla sa sematla o a busa morafe sisReport Abuse
METRIX
Tando Mabunu, you are emotional, if what you uttering is true, when did you know about this. Do you have a medical report to substantiate your claims? You are just the second Khanyi Mbaurest. Rest in peace six feet down we "ll remember you amen.Report Abuse
xhosagirl
Thando you seem to enjoy seing your name on the papers le wena njeeReport Abuse
KingMa
Ya, thats life it shows that u cant have everything..Report Abuse
Lesoba-Le-Boya
Mandla Nyopa ya Le-tla le Pepuwe...Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
Mandla Mandela is always right, there has to be a black sheep in the familyReport Abuse
guiliano
@Sowetan- first you were obsessed with juju and now this mandela guy, hope your paper is selling like hot cakes.Report Abuse
MOTHUBANNYO
You mean to tell me that die laaitjie shoots blanks - Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn it !!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
i can't believe this mandla dude went to Rhodes, gooddemet, as stupid as he is, and an MP nogal....mara bonna in general have a ego problem, no wonder why this Tando knows too much, man tend to get too excited when a woman gives him a constant erection to a point where they tell everything to the wife even deep ‘family’ issues not knowing that it might bite him in the @@ss one day, shameReport Abuse
MOTHUBANNYO
No bullets in the chamber - a tlise all his wives kwano ke ba thube ................ la tseba mosReport Abuse
Flemza
What does this has to do with us woman if u want kids Tando Mabunu-Mandela , just say it , come to me you will have qaurtriplets right now before you finish reading this article , whats wrong with you Tando Mabunu-Mandela , if you want kids just say it and I`m willing to donate , leave the poor man alone , its not like the poor man choose to be infertile maybe its an untreatable medical condition , you are a shame on yourself , if a person wants something you say it , if its kids you want just say it , I will give you kidsReport Abuse
LostGuy
when she was married to him she didnt even utter a single word , i sense jealousy and heart broken, get over it woman and find another Gold digger.Report Abuse
swona
thats what hapens when u cant satisfy a woman!Report Abuse
Buccerneer10111
These young man must consult with The Spear for some mixturesReport Abuse
candilious
Boring k@k .............Report Abuse
Ingxabano
She's bitter and jealousy, etsho ngobubu apha nxaaa!!!Report Abuse
Spekepeke
Y A W N I N GReport Abuse
imd
LOLReport Abuse
Shredder
Infertility? I won't wish it on anyone, be it a man or a woman. It's always good to have and raise children of your own. Askis Mandla. Anyway, did you take the tests to make sure that what this woman is true?Report Abuse
Tsafendason
Another GOLD DIGGER who was in it for the money in the very first place, we all know she wouldn't have married this loser had he not been Mandela's grandson, sies man, you all stink!!!!!!Report Abuse
TDK
@Eltybots. You're so damn right. Scorned woman. A woman will enjoy driving all those flashy cars, wearing designer clothes and eating at finest restaurants but when she want to bring you down, she will do so without any hesitation. The advice is to never allow your woman to know ALL your secrets.@Linday. Nthwe ke moopa. It now makes logic why his brother allegedly planted a seed for him.
I am so interested to hear Anais' comment. I know Rraditaba from Sunday World called Ngoako Malatji will hunt her.
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madamx
Shame thando is still hurting.Why a ntsha diphiri?
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@madamx.............
I would like to propose something!
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Shredder
@ZulumacansiAyivuki
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Not necessarily true. You may find that iyavuka, but the sperms are not fertile.
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zino
@lindsayno proof is required just follow all articles published about his marriages,then u kan believe that he is firing blanks.
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Jujubaby
When they got married it was bettween them, so why include us now. We don"t care if he's infertile or what. Get over it and move on with ur lifeReport Abuse
Mkhuler
Sies, your intentions are clear, You wanted to divide the Mandelas, I think somebody sent you or ur Nandi nuka is the problem?You don't belong to the royal family, just leave!!!!Report Abuse
Speackup
I now fully understands the saying "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"Report Abuse
MakgwebelakaKokoYaManoti!
In the latest papers Mabunu-Mandela further alleges that Mandela is not even the rightful chief of Mvezo.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ka nnete ena borena boo ha bo ya molokela hoba ke ngwana wa moradi wa haMadiba,ntleng ha ho re ha a tswale teng le ha a ka nyala ha lekgolo ha a sena pelehi teng ha e yona.Ha a leke ho lokisa le mo-sa-di eo a nang le yena.
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MommaC
I can't understand some of the comments here. Either people haven't been following what is happening or they are just not paying attention.When Tando married Mandla, he had nothing. She was actually supporting him. Then he became abusive and started sleeping around so she divorced him. They were married in community of property so everything that came into the marriage was to be divided equally. Mandla then tried to hide his money by putting it into a trust fund for the child that isn't even his. How can Tando now be accused of being a 'gold digger' and putting stuff in that is not relevant. If the kid isn't his then it is relevant because the kid has money that belongs to her
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Cl!ck
@ SowetanWhere's an article about Julius Malema or Steve Hofmyer??.. This BioSlim Mandela is getting boring now..
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Winilen
I got perfect muthi for you my brother to make babies just give me a shout...It is very ambarasing for a man not to be able to make babies especially if you come from a royal family... shame sorry broe
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Limpopoist
Mandla Mandela is completely infertileHe even failed FRENCH JUMP START
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WarrenG
So him and his brother were pumping the same chick. Nxa!Having 3somes maybe...a disgrace to the Mandela name and most importantly Madiba.
These fools should be in jail.
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Makhosini0408
Indaba zabantu abayi two. I always wonder why makumnandi, we do not hear anything and makubheda, we are bombareded with such juicy titbits or is it a case of sour grapes or a case of a woman scorned?Report Abuse
Blackthought
Can't go around saying such horrible things about other people (men or women). This is just cruel!Report Abuse
Chichi7
15 Aug 2012Nice1Chichi7
why does the wife have to disrespect the husband like that? What is said behind closed doors remains their especially when you are upset and you want to use it as leverage
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Did u say disrespect the husband? come on man he has already disrespected himself.
Tell more lady, i'm sure there's more we don't know about this drama king.
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People do not seem to understand that in trying to revenge and take someone down, you also take yourself down. Holding onto anger makes you a prisoner of animosity and deprives you of joy. There is no need to let the world know what is happening and she looks like an extremely bitter woman. If the husband has disrespected himself, he has done it on his own accord and there is no need for her to keep shoving.
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DJWinner
Does this mean his boys don't have tails or they can't swim upstream?Report Abuse
CONDOMLarge
lol, ke basadi.I 1ns had a GF like that who when we broke up,she went out telling people gore m nt gud in bed,nt a gud kisser,wet ma self @ night after booze,m sleeping on a skorokoro bed.LMAO why ddnt she say all those thinx when we were still a couple.eish wemanReport Abuse
lindsay
@MommaCnobody is disputing that they did things or accumulated wealth together using a Mandela name of course but how long is she gonna keep it up mudslinging him there is a reason why there is a phrase never argue with a fool now she does look like Mandla to people. it seems to me by the time they actually divide the property there won't be anything left to divide at the rate Mandla is going. what if Grimauld has already emptied the trust fund the same way Mandla manage to empty the bank account without his first wife's knowledge?
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zino
@SOLUTIONSGreat to hear someone like that can't reproduce, it is just better for society, he is not breeding material.
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lol he does not deserve to be a father. sure bosso
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CONDOMLarge
lol bt if it is true Mandla,come to me boy.i will futhisa,faka isipeyiti n will give u Tshigwane.after dat o tlo shapa trible n even get pregnant yourself Smindlo.come to Dr Zifozonke.lolReport Abuse
MommaC
lindsayThe kid's trust fund can't be touched by the lawyers. He has put the majority of the money into the trust fund and that is why she is questioning why.
I fully support her. It is about time that SA women took a stand for what is rightfully theirs instead of being told to just shut up and do what the man wants. This is about more than just the money, it is about the morals and the way women are expected to just be grateful for any crumbs they are given.
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eisleben
That is not fair play. Where is the referee? She hit him below the belt. Red card, please. Beetch please. Which man in his right mind will drag himself in such a mess that he would like other people that his bullets are harmless. HARMLESS PIECE OF FUN.Report Abuse
geovatti
Lmao #claps onceReport Abuse
tumzangwana
shame maan, so Mandla's "soldiers" just couldnt find the way home no matter how hard they tried? haao bathong but to air such things in public? what is wrong with these people nah?Report Abuse
Nanaki
Yoo this lady must deal with her anger, I mean why bring the fertile part mara. She didn’t complain much about him being not fertile while still with him..sis man just deal with the divorce and get on with your life. you like being in the papersReport Abuse
MakgwebelakaKokoYaManoti!
Mohlomong mo-sa-di wa Mandla o tlameha ho nyolla keto ha nyane feela.Report Abuse
DJWinner
I'm selling sperm_ at R3000 per teaspoon. They can contact me; mine is only making twins according to my customers.Report Abuse
Mellow
Shame Mandla so you have lazy swimmers no wonder your brothers are making them babies on your behalf aish but you still a nuisance man and it wasnt necessary to announce his infidelity to the whole world haaikeReport Abuse
lindsay
@ MommaCi agree with you women should fight for what is rightfully theirs but at what cost and what level do you have to stand to? and does that include fighting through the media for all to see your dirty laundry?
besides do you see her getting exactly what rightfully hers? what if Mandla spends all the money and then file bankruptcy is she going down with him. the guy is a looser and an idiot period
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LadyZi
I'm with MommaC here, you guys don't understand that Thando comes from a very-well off family and when she met Mandla he wasn't Chief yet and she was earning a very good salary and then suddenly she had to become a housewife. She deserves each and every cent she and Mandla made together...and uMandla akanaright yonikeza lomali kumntana ongengowakhe nobangowakhe and she wasn't the on who had saying the child wasn't his, nguMandla who put in himself in this position...uThando yena must get whats hers...Report Abuse
Comeback
@ Eisleben LOL, she hit him below the belt, I don't feel sorry for Mandla, he brought this upon himself using & changing women like underwear as if they got no feelingshowever, Tando you need to let go, we've all been hurt akuqali ngawe, the difference is how you deal with it, cut your losses and move on, I was even suprised she's such a pretty woman, why hang on to this resentment, now I clearly don't see the difference btwn Tando & Mandla
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OLDLADY4
Ei, these new kind of celebs that think we really want to know all the reasons for their divorces and multiple marriages. We all have our own relationship problems. What makes their so special?Report Abuse
somaartakeit
Thando I truly admire your strength to fight so fiercely against this character, considering many women who are dealing with high profile abusers would have given up the fight or even fled the country, but you stand firm and stick to your guns, I am awed by your fighting spirit for social justice and your dignity, you fight fiercely like a tigress and you are on target, you deserve a medal, you deserve an honour for taking on the powerful bully in the land, I so so admire and I am so so right behind you and praying that this nightmare will day be over and you could get on your with your life and become the best you can be, for now, ngalamazwi ndithi yomelela qhawekazi!!!Report Abuse
MommaC
lindsayShe is not fighting through the media. The media are picking up on the paperwork filed with the courts and putting it in. It is public information and she has no say over the media's use of it.
That is part of the problem. He isn't going bankrupt, he has put the money into a trust fund for a child that isn't even his so she cannot touch it.
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Ngwedane'endala
Mandla must just come see me and I will give him imbiza so that he can stop firing blanks. Udinga ukuchatha.Report Abuse
Snitch
Oh shame man, u shud have just consulted your Wise Men as in the Kingdom, like previous king abo Authurs regime, to go and search for real men out there in the Community ''Who can really do Lamcimbi 4 u man'' easy like, some of us are equipped with AK's 47.....first shots are boys.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@MorenaWaPoleloBathong???? Is it necessary to tell people that his bullets do not work????
------------------this is another typical question expected from a chauvinist who believes that men have more rights than women which they can use and abuse at whim, as I didn't see you complaining when zuma said he married all these women cause his first wife couldn't produce children, and God did he go on a rampage making babies to the expense of tax payers?
Thando yomelela uqiniseke ngabanga akho sisi, you inspire so many many still marginalised women to fight for their rights.
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somaartakeit
@maneaterwhen tradition ictates thatif you cannot father a child a brother of your has to assist. so i guess you brother was right then.
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I like a man who sticks with his culture even when it doesn't work in its favour, unlike the cultural charlatans who are cherry picking from our culture.
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somaartakeit
@MellowShame Mandla so you have lazy swimmers - LOVL @lazy swimmers, but the last time I checked our swimmers won gold at the olympics mos, lol
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Mellow
@somaartakeit LMAO girl you know am talking about bhuti Mandlas swimmers they' apparently into tanning they just dont do freestyles, butterfly or backstrokes hahahahahaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa so sad rerigReport Abuse
somaartakeit
I think the name Mandela is getting into Mandla's thick head, hence he is always in the press for all the wrong reasons disgracing the ole man's great name and legacy, why can't he come to the party and concl this divorce so that Thando can also move on with her life with a man in her life if she has any and produce beautiful babies and be a great mom and exemplary to so many women in this country who have to endure men like mandla mandela?Report Abuse
Winilen
He needs imbiza & uzoba sharpReport Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
This man must let go "ha zikho bantwana"Report Abuse
somaartakeit
LoL @Mellow Mandla is breast-stroking alright, he's now on his third bird since the divorce but Ms Grinauld is having non of it, she takes the fruit from his brother lovl, that must have gone straight and deflated Mandla's huge ego, and after this, I don't think any (sane) woman would want anything to do him,Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@WinilenHe needs imbiza & uzoba sharp
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Do you think a traditionalist like mandla has not already dubbed onto imbiza's? Mandla needs to grow up and be a man, that's all that he needs,
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Cl!ck
@ somaartakeit*Oh boy*.. Here we again..
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manyamaml
ooh,ooh,sorry my press nephew but come to me i will do twins for youReport Abuse
Cl!ck
goReport Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeit@Winilen
He needs imbiza & uzoba sharp
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Do you think a traditionalist like mandla has not already dubbed onto imbiza's? Mandla needs to grow up and be a man, that's all that he needs,
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Phela izimbiza azifani, kumele athole ugobho luzomklina, bese athole umavula kuvaliwe awuhlanganise nobisi bese ayachatha lapho sihlala kumnyama kubomvu.
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somaartakeit
@Cl!ck did you have a dream about me wena:-)Report Abuse
RubberLeggs
mxm, this dude is a complete disgrace, seems like the story does connect, he simply said yesterday..'I never touch her physcally and sexually...he knew that his d!ck is a looser mosi, somebody please put me on the boxing gloves, I want a street fight with Mandla.Report Abuse
Intomb'omxhosa
Eish Tando sis all the good men are Gays and we are left with infertile gentlemen only......very sad indeed!!!Report Abuse
ProudlyNigerian
With the rate at which the population numbers are increasing in Africa.I feel that it is about time African governments impose population conrtrol laws e.g1: 1 man ,1 wife (polygamy should be outlawed)
2: 1 couple ,maximum of 2 children
3: New couples who have been previously married to other partners and have had more than one child in their previous relationships will not be allowed to reproduce with their new spouse.They will however be allowed to adopt.
4: Single Men and women will be given fnancial rewards if they submit to voluntary sterilization.
5 Couples who voluntarily choose to have 1 child will be given financial rewards
Any African who goes agaisnt these laws will be prosecuted and incarcerated for 5 years.
I know some of this potential laws sound crazy but there is going to be food scarcity in the near future and the only way to lessen it's impact is to reduce the population especially in countries with a rapdily growing population like Nigeria ,Ethopia,Egypt ,DRC and South Africa
Here is a link to Africa's current population staistic for each country,it is very scary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_population
Most of these population explosion is due to the "stupid" and regressive cultures being practiced on the African continent.Something needs to be done otherwise we will all regret it in future.
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somaartakeit
@RubberLeggs it was one of his brothers who made that remark when mandla said the child was a result of an affair with one of his brothers, mandla belongs to the 'big irresponsible d!cks club' whose members feel the need to share it with the world, hence his d!ck has not rested since his divorce, now we even know he is infertile (big empty d!ck), he is beginning to be like zuma whose d!ck is most talked about than his deeds iro his presidential responsibilities, I feel sorry for the clan whom he is chief to, sies can you imagine this!!! fortunately for Xhosas we are not into this chieftan thing at least majority of us,Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
ProudlyNigerianWith the rate at which the population numbers are increasing in Africa.I feel that it is about time African governments impose population conrtrol laws e.g
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If you can go back to N!geria and suggest these dom laws of yours will be a good thing, while u there make sure that u don't come back to our country. Please also encourage yo brothers not to come to the south to overpopulate us. I am sure we clear on this issue.
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somaartakeit
@ProudlyNigerian, I agree with you wholeheartedly, what Africa needs is education not more breeding, I always say we should like other advanced nations do away with cultures which are detrimental to our development as ppl, eg polygamy this is a sham disguised as culture to suppress development of girl child, I don't know how Africans think they can compete with best in the world when 50% of its human resources is dis-empowered and entrapped in primitive cultures.I seem to remember reading this mandla character saying he was for ukwethwala culture, a culture where young girls are kidnapped and forced into marriage to complete strangers, hence I often wonder if a so called chief can agree with something this regressive, what informs the mind behind deciding who should be a chief for the clan?
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somaartakeit
Gwedenedala how is it that you are not able to reason like a mature educated person? Nija has done nothing to deserve your drivel, please get a life or better still crawl back into the cave whence you came from that way you free oxygen you are busy stealing now,Report Abuse
Tasto
Mandla must simply step down and let Ndaba take his place! Can't have two bulls in one kraal!!Report Abuse
somaartakeit
oh btw ProudlyNigerian you would be pleased to know that in Tunisia the women and liberal men are also calling for outlawing of polygamy , it would be interesting to see how this will pan out, I also wish N.Africa would do away with barbaric culture of female genital mutilation, the UN has declared this human rights abuse/and its illegal in developed countries to perform such practice.Report Abuse
Cl!ck
@ somaartakeitI dreamt about meeting you one day.. But your avator looks like a man hiding behind a curtain.. *Wondering*
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somaartakeit
@Cl!cks good, I hope my avatar scares you away:-)Report Abuse
Sibhanxa
Blanks! Wow! I have a loaded what you call now. This is not a bad beach either!Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Lehidothis guy is a d!ck
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With a d!ck that echos.......... not too sure where the sound comes from ...............
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lindsay
@MommaCthen maybe she should ask her attorney to ask the court to reprimand the clerk of the court who leaked such private matter to media because a divorce is a private matter not public interest
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Papage
The brother helped him, then yena a phapha by telling that the child is not his, in our culture if the elders find out that the boy is incapable, they ask the brother to go in, same applies to women, if the wife is not capable they ask the younger sister to allow the sister husband to have a child with. So the Chiefs is too much of himselfReport Abuse
somaartakeit
Lindsay if I may, its interesting for me and I will take a risk and say for many Xhosa speaking ppl to learn about mandlas conduct as he is chief and as a result exerts influence over his subjects.Report Abuse
sgubhusenkwishi
There is a medical solution to this which has helped a lot of people in dire need solving such humiliating problems. The procedure called IVF is done by gynaecologist, esp. in SPAIN they would help you to have your own child using your own sperms. This information might take away this stress my bro. I feel with you , please consult, help is available for you.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@TastoMandla must simply step down and let Ndaba take his place! Can't have two bulls in one kraal!!
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its not as if we need chiefs as it is there are too many chiefs and very few Indians, mandla should just act in his portfolio as an MP as tax payers pay him a shyte load of money and he is not producing any results.
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somaartakeit
@sgubhusenkwishi all that mandla is a brain transplant as is evident his current is now working, and the reason he is chasing after every skirt is because he lacks self esteem unfortunately for him this has exposed his being infertile, I don't know why he didn't work out his problems and sort professional help, but then that requires that he is a responsible adult, mandla should ride on his family as much as he can cause once Madiba is no more, this name will be history not a benefit and profit making project, mandla has no shame unemikhwa ngathi yinkwenkwe,Report Abuse
ProudlyNigerian
@somaartakeit..don't pay any attention to Ngwedane'endala.People like him are not aware that we are in this together as a race , a continent and a people.In regards to tunisia ,i wish them luck.It is going to be hard for them to win because they mix religion with politics.By the way North Africa is not the only place where female c!rcumcision takes place,it also happens in west Africa.My younger sister was c!rcumcised thanks to my over conservative mum but the younger members of my family protested against the elders a few years back and my family has now stopped that barbaric practice.
You are right about the fact that education plays a big role in changing the mindset of people.I am all for African cultures but only for progressive practices.Another alarming thing is that countries like the USA ,UAE and South Korea are now buying up arable land in Africa to secure their food security at the expense of Africans.
People are not really paying attention to what is going on now but in a few decades we will start to feel the pinch when as Africans we no longer have access to our own arable lands and all the farm produce are being shipped off to non African countries.Mass scale Agriculture and systematic population reduction is what African Governments should be focusing on now to ensure the survival of our people.
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somaartakeit
@ProudlyNigerian, most times I try to ignore them but sometimes the good guys must stand up to the bad guys for the good of human race, if we allow the Ngwedane's divisive comments we will have another holocust or a repeat of Ruanda episode in our hands,It annoys me when SAns (now that we 'think' we are free) mistreat other African migrants and make xenophobic remarks against them, do you know Africans struggle to be accepted in other continents? Russia is on a full blown ethnic cleansing spree and majority of its victims are Africans with little to no convictions? Do you know that Israel recently made remarks about booting out African migrants from there? Any country in Africa SA incl is FIRST a home of every country African. I get sick in my stomach, that ignorant SAns have joined into the xenophobic bandwagon, I hate it so much, especially when I consider where we come from. Does it not amaze you that its almost always victims of prejudice themselves who later become xenophobs? Anyway apart from that.../
and with regards to buying of arable land in Africa, I must put it to you, what's the difference with what African leaders today are doing iro pawning our resources, and what African leaders (chiefs) in the olden days did iro slave trade and selling off the land in return for mirrors and bottles of whiskeys? I tell you my brother African ppl are their own worse enemies for their failure to learn from past mistakes. That is why I say Africa needs education like it needs oxygen to cure our ppl of this ignorance which only serves to destruct our advancement as a race.
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somaartakeit
the only power you have wena Gwendedala is to pollute the forum in reality you have no power nor influence iro whether foreigners stay in SA or leave, you just expose your ignorance, sometimes I look at man like you and their reasoning capacity and bahaviours and I say the Bible needs to be edited, there is simply no way a person with a reasoning capacity such as yourself shld be considered a head of a household, as the Bible suggests.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
and btw Gwendedala how do you feel about the fact that it was the gov that you vote for and are prepared to die for that opened out border gates to immigrants? they screwed you straight in the eye enjoy it, fool :-)Report Abuse
Tasto
If the child is Ndaba's child then a young Mandela has been forced to exile again !!Report Abuse
ProudlyNigerian
@Somaartakeit..don't worry about it sister,the sensible and objective immigrants in SA know that only a few SAns are like this.There are xenophobes in every African country not only SA.It is always best to ignore them so that we can get on with tackling real issues.Most SAns i meet in person everyday are the nicest people i have ever met so i don't pay any attention to these "internet taxi rank" bullies who try so hard to appear xenophobic.In regards to Isreal,they did deport the African immigrants(mostly Sudanese).They also gave each deportee about $1000.If we can get our act together ,elect good leaders and contribute to our continent positively there will be no need for any of our people to migrate to any country and be treated like vermin.I really don't know why Africans migrate to Russia because the economic prospects of that country is quite dim.
I concur , Africans are their own worst enemies, corruption ,nepotism, tribalism ,xenophobia ,petty jealousy ,selfishness and racism has robbed us of our economic growth as a continent and a people.We have the resources but lack the collective understanding to utilize to our own benefit as well as that of our future generations.
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somaartakeit
@ProudlyNigerian the Israel and African migrants is dire than that, the report I read it cited Eritreans and Somalians as main African migrants, I ask myself, if the AU (HQ) is based in Ethiopia close to were human destruction is happening, why any of our African leaders haven't spoken out against this and the AU taking actions to curb this?the other day BBC world aired a documentary, where interviewed a guy running an NGO that is looking into migrant issues, that guy said there are vast numbers of unmarked graves of African migrants who captured and murdered for their organs by body parts traffickers, apparently this practice is rife in Egypt, why has AU not done anything against this?
I also want to venture and propose that, the country which produces most refugees and trafficked humans, the gov of that country should be hauled to the HAGUE and answer on a charge for human rights violations.
In the meantime Africa's only salvation is education, cause without that no one is any wiser and our ppl will continue to suffer consequences of ignorance which is sweeping through the continent. That is why I am not at peace at all with anc regime for reducing SA's education into shambles, living our children out to become the lost generation,
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somaartakeit
@Ngwedane'endalasomaartakeit is a hypocrit
somaartakeit is a hypocrit
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this coming from you, I take it as a complement LOVL and btw when you do manage to catch your brains as they come back from the taxi rank, just realise that you have just proven my case, that you are anc lost generation, uneducated social misfit polluting the forum, you are not upsetting me if that was your goal plan, it will need more brain power for you to get me annoyed, you are just living up to the believe that you are not educated,
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Mellow
@Sowetan honestly now there are just too many idiots on the blog do something about this overgrown babies already how old are this ppl anyways? Gosh so immatureReport Abuse
ProudlyNigerian
The analysis you gave there is quite an eye opener,i never thought of it that way.Body part trafficking is unfortunately now a big business in Northerner Africa.There quite a number of East Europeans as well as German syndicates working in those areas and buying body parts from the locals.During the Libyan uprising a lot of African immigrants were slaughtered under the guise of them being Qaddafi mercenaries.On the African continent in terms of refugees ,i believe Democratic Republic of Congo & Zimbabwe comes first while in terms of illegal immigrants i believe Nigeria comes first.I will give an arm to see the leaders of Nigeria hang for high treason.These guys have been looting since forever but no one can touch them because they are protected the Mossad in Abuja.As long as the oil flow to the west is not interrupted no one can touch Nigerian leaders.
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ProudlyNigerian
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NafTman
@lindsay, He deserves it that Bustard! Tando deserves more respectReport Abuse
eisleben
@Ngwedane'endalaC'mon, be a sport. You are such a childish bastard. There is always the difference between growing old and growing up. You did not know/value the benefit of cut & paste all the time and you just have to abuse it. At this age. At 13 you are old enough to differentiate between irritating stupidity and undiluted brainlessness.
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somaartakeit
This is the crux of the matter ProudlyNigerian, when black Africans start valuing themselves and demand best service and respect from office bearers they elect only then will the West be empowered to deal with despots here who are causing refugees, I say we give these ppl permission to abuse us, they use colonialism card (guilt trip) to get us to submit to them, whilst as you say they are looting the continent, I was shocked to learn (after the Arab Spring) how much leaders of that region have looted from their respective countries since they assumed power, Africa is riddled with genes of Mobuto Sesekos because we are meak race, we tolerate abuse.The other day I was shocked by behaviour of some so called educated SAns when Mandla visited London, I happen to have been there, some of them have doctorate degrees but they were groveling to him like they were proper peasants it was actually pathetic, not that Mandla was spouting anything of substance more than he was trying to mimics the way Mandela speaks, that guy has nothing to offer he has no personality nor charisma I fail to understand how he became elected to be a chief nevermind MP. it is this calibre of leaders that we (black Africans) elect which makes other nations/races to not respect us.
Now after the peasants in the EC elected Mandla as a chief, do you know what he did to them? he desecrated some graves and when called upon, he didn't' apologise he said it was the bones of the animal, now I ask myself where do Africans (black) get all this patience to take all this abuse from the leaders they elect? This guy brings in a new meaning to what a leaders should be or stands for, I am afraid if this guy were to have his way, SA would be like Swaziland.
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sgubhusenkwishi
Sanibonani!Molweni!
Dumelani!
Goie more!
wouenda!
Abusheni!
Igama labafazi balibngwe, phambili ngabafazi, phambili!
Indoda ethinta ebefazi izoyibona ukuthi ifana nobani ngumthetho.!
Igama lama khosikazi malibongwe x 5.
he he he he
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somaartakeit
and BTW ProudlyNigerian, I am tempted to say that our leaders elected by us are habitual failures, Kofi Anan comes to mind, here was this first black African holding a post of influence in one of hte worlds organisation (UN), what exactly has this guy achieved for Africa during his tenure there? And now he want to go rushing into Syria and calm down conflict there? does he really expects the Arabs to take him serious considering ongoing conflicts in Africa which he (Kofi) did little to nothing to quel? Can you see even how when the world gives an African a chance to prove his mettle, we fail?Report Abuse
somaartakeit
I don't mean to give anyone a fright about my views but even now look at our president, SA the most influential country in the continent had to have a standard 2 president who is corrupt and clueless, now spot the trend of failing nations, look at developed countries, most candidates in-charge of their countries have impressive education credentials, just what the hell is wrong is us black Africans? Why do we always have to be saddled with yoyo leaders who are incapable of dreaming up one original idea and implement it?Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeitand BTW ProudlyNigerian, I am tempted to say that our leaders elected by us are habitual failures, Kofi Anan comes to mind, here was this first black African holding a post of influence in one of hte worlds organisation (UN), what exactly has this guy achieved for Africa during his tenure there? And now he want to go rushing into Syria and calm down conflict there? does he really expects the Arabs to take him serious considering ongoing conflicts in Africa which he (Kofi) did little to nothing to quel? Can you see even how when the world gives an African a chance to prove his mettle, we fail?
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There was nothing Kofi Anna could do for Africa because he was undermined by the US as the SG of the UN. He had little say there.
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somaartakeit
Even our esteemed Free State premier was proud to announce to the meak nation that those who want this president to vacate office fear him cause he knows their secrets, which means he is not there on merit but on his ability to blackmail potential contenders, just how morally bankrupt the anc as an organisation has become, when he have leaders speaking publicly in his way? what does this say for our future as a country/nation? that the one who can throw dirt the most to opposition keeps the crown? I thought the leaders should be valued on capabilities to deliver, and should have integrity?Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Ngwedendala why then accept the post? for the money and glory? where is integrity in this? or self respect?Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeitEven our esteemed Free State premier was proud to announce to the meak nation that those who want this president to vacate office fear him cause he knows their secrets, which means he is not there on merit but on his ability to blackmail potential contenders, just how morally bankrupt the anc as an organisation has become, when he have leaders speaking publicly in his way? what does this say for our future as a country/nation? that the one who can throw dirt the most to opposition keeps the crown? I thought the leaders should be valued on capabilities to deliver, and should have integrity?
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Even the current contenders for the presidential post are not fit for the job. The day we elect the president who is educated and not a dictator is the day we will prosper as South Africans. At the moment we have power mongers.
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somaartakeit
You know Kofi Anan whilst still SG of the UN, he reminded me so much of the beauty queens who are told to smile for the cameras, they dont' even know why they are smiling but they are smiling whilst Rome (Africa) burns in the case of Anan.Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
He accepted the post because he wanted to be the first African to lead the UN in history, thats why he had resigned in Syria coz he was not adding any value there.Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
The day we start trading amongst ourselves in Africa and not relying on the world is the day we will prosper because most of the worlds raw material are from Africa.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Ngwedane'endalasomaartakeit
Even the current contenders for the presidential post are not fit for the job. The day we elect the president who is educated and not a dictator is the day we will prosper as South Africans. At the moment we have power mongers.
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This is exactly what scares the living day lights out of me, that as a nation we have become and are settling for such poor leadership, this is one of the main characteristics found in countries which have failed and are generating poverty and producing refugees of all sorts and everyone except politically connect is super rich and is viciously amassing wealth for themselves. If SA is not gonna get up from this slumber soon we are heading for very very rough ride, for one we are not going to hold on our status (as economic power/influence) Africa for very long, then there world must brace itself to receive SAn refugees,
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somaartakeit
@Ngwedane'endalaThe day we start trading amongst ourselves in Africa and not relying on the world is the day we will prosper because most of the worlds raw material are from Africa.
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what are you talking about? our chiefs have sold us to Ch!na, like the chief in the olden days sold slaves to the West and pawned our mineral resources, hence there is more calls for Africa to wake up, get education and empower her ppl so they can compete with the best in the best in the world. but I don't know if this can happen in our life time.
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MommaC
lindsayIt isn't 'leaked' it is in the public domain. Anything that goes through the courts and does not relate to rape or a minor is accessible by any citizen. They can request that it is held 'in camera' but they then have to have very good reason because the courts have to remain completely open to scrutiny.
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somaartakeit
And as many of you may have by now picked up the scent, that this regime is not interested in empowering ordinary SAns but perpetuation of enslavement of our ppl, hence sadtu is helping angie to destroy education system of our children, and we as parents should be ashamed for allowing this to happen.Otherwise how else can one explain that the ruling party is comfortable, I say they are comfortable cause they have not fired anyone for education crisis in Limpopo and countrywide, how is the ruling party comfortable with presidential family (former and current) creating destitute (is it 700?) employees of Aurora who are put into poverty by reckless behaviour of both mandela zondwa and zuma's nephew,
now I want you to analyse this, this 700 men who prolly have at least one wife and 2 kids (minimum) are jobless, thsi means they cant pay schooling requirements for their children, is this not perpetuation of slavery? Now how is it possible for black SAns who are most affecting by this scrouge to vote for this? Do this majority have no values or self respect or they have resigned themselves to being just mere slaves to the new black elite?
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Ngwedane'endala
@somaartakeitThe problem is that no one in our leaders has the country's interest at heart, even the emerging parties all they think about is power so that they can bring down the ANC but they don't have a plan on how are they going to make the people of this country prosper. Our Education system is nowhere, I think its time to look back the kind of education that ws offered to the likes of OR Tambo because I believe that they were taught better than the current generation.
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Ngwedane'endala
I think its high time that we as ordinary SAns sit down and have serious talks about the future of this country and we must not align ourselves to any organisation. Our main aim will be to challenge the serious issues that our gvt is failing on.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
So Ngwedane;endala you like many SAns have concluded or can see that no one in our leaders has the country's interests to heart, so I put to you and many others who espouse this view, which btw is not too far from the truth, which is why it prolly its so painful to face this face, why are we voting these ppl then? why have we not pushed for civil rights organisations instead?I said the other day, every country can effectively manage its affairs without politicians, cause they all seem to be after one thing (power), I am pondering an idea of how we can rid ourselves these parasites (politicians) and their families, so we can get with advancing our cause as a country and as ppl.
I also suggested the other that they politicians should do this as ONLY as part time and paid a fraction fo what they get, for the rest they should all get real jobs.
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Now I fully concur with not aligning ourselves to political parties that's a step towards getting rid of politicians and making them available to market (ie they must find real jobs) cause this joke is not funny anymore,Even when look at developed country, its same crooks of different statue, I can not bring my head around why young western children must die in Afghan, if politicians feel strong enough about a cause they must their own children in the forefront, that's why I am also against military.
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somaartakeit
Military should be there as a defense not attack mechanism, I also once said in a debate about conflict and violence in Africa which was held by my esteemed western colleagues, I shocked them when I said that, the difference btwn Africa and the West iro violence and conflict is that ours is disorganised, hence rebels, theirs is organised glamourised hence NATO, they did not believe their ears I also told them at that debate so long as parents allow their children to join the army they contribute to what we all claim to be against, war/conflict which causes refugees.Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
somaartakeitSo Ngwedane;endala you like many SAns have concluded or can see that no one in our leaders has the country's interests to heart, so I put to you and many others who espouse this view, which btw is not too far from the truth, which is why it prolly its so painful to face this face, why are we voting these ppl then? why have we not pushed for civil rights organisations instead?
I said the other day, every country can effectively manage its affairs without politicians, cause they all seem to be after one thing (power), I am pondering an idea of how we can rid ourselves these parasites (politicians) and their families, so we can get with advancing our cause as a country and as ppl.
I also suggested the other that they politicians should do this as ONLY as part time and paid a fraction fo what they get, for the rest they should all get real jobs
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The problem with the Civil rights organisations is that they only act when there is something wrong, they don't challenge in every corner.
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somaartakeit
@Ngwedane'endala the civil rights need to be bolstered in other words empowered by the citizens, they can't just act by themselves, we must push/bring issues for them to take forward, and when we do this diligently they will challenge things diligently, and that will give a would be corrupt politician something to think about.../Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
They will never send their children to join the army because they only want the people they don't care about to d!e. They use gvt resources to attack the civilians that are against them, they will pay the army very well so that it will do their dirty work with pleasure. The only luck that we have in this country is the independence of the media otherwise we would be in deep trouble like the other African countries.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
Anyway as I now have to dash, my closing comments on this is that, we as citizens really need to think long and hard about trimming down the lard (politicians) during these hard hitting economic times, we must consider retrenching them and save ourselves a bundle which must be diverted to development of youth programmes, programmes which will enable this youth to one day become economic active and contribute to the national kitty, I mean really guys, we can do this, some politicians have already shown us that the country can function fully without their input, by not appearing in parly when they should, by not contributing anything to their portfolio with view to advance our national cause, after all we are paying them, so let us think about trimming off the lard in these tough economic times, its like in your house hold, some of you since economic down turn, have cut down on luxuries, you do most things yourselves, so why not do same for the national budget and save costs?Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
I would love to continue with you on this issue tomorrow, drive safely.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
No worries Ngwedane'endala except for tomorrow for majority of time I am not near the computer as I am working a project which is taking all of my time, but am not complaining cause really someone has to win bread, lol I consider myself to be amongst the lucky ones many will give anything for a job, so I have no right to complain but I am not here tomorrow, but you will be okay, you can suggest this discussion to other guys, eg Dzel, Makhosini, Mellow, MC and other smart ppl with view to divise a strategy to implement our ideas, we can not allow ourselves to be shortchanged by politicians, esp given that most of them have education, I don't wanna be a mampara no more, so I say we must retrench politicians, we are cost cutting and we are doing this for the good of this nation.Report Abuse
Ngwedane'endala
Sho bro, work must come first.Report Abuse
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Bebesocs
Yheey Mandla I warned you, if you remember I said never touch those graves and you call the bones of the elderly the bones of the cows...Mandla I said to you "Ingqumbo yezinyanya". I warned you that kusezilalini phaya.Mandla who is your mother? go to her and ask for some advise.
Tata Mandela named Mandla's first wife Nodayimani( Lo uzofuna imali apha..she wants our diamonds) Thando is from the family, Mandla you must ask for forgiveness from Mabhunu family I advise you again.
Tata Mandela named Mandla's first child "Qheya" that is vile, do we still use names to describe our nationality? Do we still describe people like that? Hence we have ANC that is RACIST and TRIBALISTIC.
Yacaci ikati emhlophe ehlungwini. Mandla take my advise go to your mother's.
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Bebesocs
Thando must write a book about this self -made chief, please Thando when you write this book tell us more about his perfomance at home. Tell us how he bullied you. Write about his jewels.Thina kwaXhosa sinazo inkosi hayi lemigqutshuba ingo Mandla, ovukengceni
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Bebesocs
Mandla did you love your grandmother Evelyn the way you love your grandad Rolihlahla?You know nothing about that region , you just came this morning and you come and claim ubukhosi, you should learn to respect us.
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Yotywa
Eish this is not good, neh. Never anger a woman.Report Abuse
wendyyah
seems this mandela Chief is failing to control his wives.Report Abuse
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