Thu Jun 20 09:02:58 SAST 2013

School Bullies shown the door

Aug 13, 2012 | McKeed Kotlolo | 27 comments

THE Gauteng education department has sent a strong message to bullies by expelling five pupils for bullying at a Pretoria secondary school.

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Aug 13, 2012

MommaC

1. IF these kids are expelled, the DoE has to find another school for them (under current legislation) which means they are simply putting the problem somewhere else

2. Why did it take this long (and a death) for something to be done about it. Expelling them isn't going to make the principal do a better job

3. As these boys are know to have issues, expelling them is hardly going to make them suddenly become perfect citizens so all they are doing is delaying the trip to Sun City.

There are far too many young men out there who are living feral lives. What we desperately need is some form of system to put them on the straight and narrow BEFORE they end up as a threat to society. This kind of antisocial behaviour should have been recognised and addressed when they were still in junior school.
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Aug 13, 2012

lindsay

that is a good move now they should face civil litigation i mean their parents for factual causing the death of another kid
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Aug 13, 2012

Chichi7

A month ago, I lost my marbles when this kid just beat my child in the school bus. She pushed her around, slapped her so hard that her face was swollen. I did a Madea stunt and beat the crap out of the child and told her to give her parents my phone numbers.
No phone call came and that only means that she did not tell her parents. She has however learned to stay the hell away from my child.

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Aug 13, 2012

SEMO

But why such harsh decisions,these are just kids who were wrongly raised by their parents,they should be ones taking a stand(Kgomo ka mo gobe e wetswa ke namane),has anyone ever stop to think about the future of these kids and what might become.@MommaC,I definately agree with your first statement.Otherwise all these might be a lisence for them become worse than what they are now.
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Aug 13, 2012

KarlZimbiri

@Chichi7, U did well by disciplining the buliies. Bullies need to be put into their place. A bigger problem is the parents, they are way too comfortable with their children abusing others and on’t reprimand them.
I am in bad terms with my neighbours coz their children were bullying my child. When I intervened the father said children are children why do I interfere in children’s affairs. He said in life children have always bullied each other and is not going stop coz of me. I told him, as a mother, I am not watch while my child suffers. Our fight is in court as we speak, coz of him defending his children’s bully tactics.

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Aug 13, 2012

ONEE

I hated Bullies with passion when I was still a student , and I still hate them.
I have always told my daughter if they bully you dont hesitate to let me know.

right move right there
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Aug 13, 2012

1andonlybucs

yes they must be shown the door, expel them for five years!!!
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Aug 13, 2012

Mosquer

Taba ye ya ripa mosela ke be ke nagana gore e fedile
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Aug 13, 2012

Chichi7

@ KarlZimbiri
i sure hope that the court case comes right for you as no parent must ever condone any bullying.
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Aug 13, 2012

Kaylae

So the bl@@dy parents recieved the expeltion letters of their bustard$,what are they saying about the matter.Parents are letting their bad behaviour stick into their kids,descipline them when they are still young cause tomorrow they'll be jailbirds cause you failed to show them the way or they'll be bullying you around in your own home
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Aug 13, 2012

BlackSeed

Expelling them from school is not enough since they’ll terrorize the school in vengeance. Bullies should be removed from peaceful societies indefinitely. Their parents must be investigated too and if it is found that they are/were aware of it and did nothing, they must also be charged accordingly and pay the price too.

The Earth Farm can’t have irresponsible parents raising careless citizens whose irritation causes death or pain to others. Some of these bullies becomes managers, politicians, etc.; just imagine their reaction when in power?

It’s a shame that the government and its private entities are making money in education fees yet few schools which are overcrowded are erected with teachers expected to deal with such flood of ill-discipline.

Parents and these irresponsible school bodies should stop insisting on overcrowding these institutions so to allow for better management of these pupils at least. It should be easy to identify these bullies in a more controlled environment than at a classroom with an attendance similar to a soccer match between Chiefs vs. Pirates at FNB Stadia.

Everyone is making noise about how important Education is but Prisons are more guarded than the schools; what an irony. One does not directly pay to be in prison; it’s the same parents who lost their loved one who pay for these bullies to stay in prison and enjoy free food and shelter.

Yet you find fighting society members strolling under severe heat waiting to cast their vote for the system that does not work for them.

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Aug 13, 2012

candilious

Good on them and sometimes these kids only sek attention yet come out of respectable homes.


To the victims find peace its not easy ..............RIP to the poor kid we dont know whta he endured to be pushed to do himself
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Aug 13, 2012

Papage

Expelling them from school won't solve a bulling problem, they will use that somewhere else within the community, get them different schools far appart from each other, they should maybe attend "Stoud School" do we still have those?
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Aug 13, 2012

Kaylae

Papage
Expelling them from school won't solve a bulling problem, they will use that somewhere else within the community, get them different schools far appart from each other, they should maybe attend "Stoud School" do we still have those?
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Yes I know of one in my area Vikwelwa in Mpumalanga
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Aug 13, 2012

RobinH

MommaC: I agree that the problem simply shifts elsewhere, but what el;se is to be done. It seems criminal charges are still pending. This way they at least get removed from the peer group they have been terrorising for so long.
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Aug 13, 2012

RobinH

MommaC And of course, now the parents cannot claim ignorance. Perhaps THEY will deal with the matter at home.
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Aug 13, 2012

MOTHUBANNYO

Please parents discourage your kids against violence before it too little too late
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Aug 13, 2012

MommaC

RobinH

I very much doubt that the parents will be bothered in the slightest.

Removing them from the school is one thing. What they do after that is an entirely different matter. If this is what these young thugs are capable of now, what are they going to be like in 10 years time? Then it becomes (potentially) one of our family that gets the brunt of their violence. Even if they are sent to prison, the fact remains that they will still come out as thugs. Changing the behaviour is the key, not just shifting the problem around in the hopes that if they ignore it long enough then it will go away. Once again, we find ourselves treating the symptoms and not the cause
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Aug 13, 2012

Ma-Bhova

That should have took her father's pic to school and bully others with it cause dammm this dude in the pic is as black as the street is... New Tar Road going to Limpompo
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Aug 13, 2012

RobinH

MommaC: Sure. I agree. But one needs to start somewhere. I know this particular set of incidents is already way out of control and action should have been more concerted a lot sooner, but hey, it's something.
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Aug 13, 2012

Moffdat

I blame beating children.
When you beat your kids you teach them one subconscious thing; that it is okay to become violent when you don't get your way.

@Chichi7
What you did was very immature and i hope that you realise for that moment you were a bully!!!!
I hope someone bigger and badder does the same to you. Violence is STUPID.
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Aug 13, 2012

ProudlyNigerian

In Nigeria bullies are expelled and sent to a boot camp styled school run by the Nigerian Army.These kids are severely drilled by army instructors until they become disciplined.Most of them end up in the navy,army ,airforce or police force.Many Nigerian school kids get chills at the mere mention of that school and the photos of the army's endurance training sessions will even make the worst bully recosider his/her position.Nigerian parents have been known to threaten their stubborn kids with that "school".

Photos:

ladunikeji.blogspot.com/2012/07/nigerian-army-training-to-capture-boko.html

nigerianeye.com/2012/05/picture-of-day_17.html
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Aug 13, 2012

tshepomog

These kids should be send to 5 different schools not within 10km of each other.
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Aug 13, 2012

Afrojoy

I was bullied at school. It's an experience that stays with you and you end up avoiding the playground, finding friends with pupils from other schools and just having a low self esteem. It took me up to my adult years to get my self esteem back in shape. There are no reasons why bullies pick on others...in my case, I ended up believing that being good at school was seen as a weakness...and I didn't understand why I always had to be tops because at Primary school level, we hardly studied back then...just walked into the exam and whalla, tops again, and the hounds would come baying....
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Aug 13, 2012

Chichi7

@ moffdat- I will do it again and again if i could. Am not being a bully, am protecting my child from a bully twice her age and will not apologise to anyone for what i did.
Bullies generally are cowards themselves and once you give them a taste of their own medicine, they stop.
So if you want your child to be bullied until he/she commits suicide in fear, go for it.
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Aug 13, 2012

Afrojoy

So now, if I am to find out that some kid is bullying mine, I will sell one car to sue the parents out of their house. I always tell mine about the evils of bullyinglest he conceives bullying ideas and tendencies....
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Aug 14, 2012

RomeoNkosi

i attended that school for a year. trust and believe its horrible, learners bring amunition to class it is absolute chaos. the Doe aint doing jack..how do you let 24 to 26 year olds share classes with 16 or 17 year olds..Mercy
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