19Doubleiets

I mean why not! Jackie has the money and the power to buy himself off of prison and make it look like his out due to medical parole. Shabiar Shaik did it. Its a money and power thing, people better deal with it. I would also do the same if i were jailed and had the power to go out.
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MommaC

It is going to be sooooo funny watching them try and wiggle around the Derby-Lewis issue.

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Mrazane

Yes people may doubt the process mara this is not another Schabir Schaik case, the old geezer is ill, if you know anyone suffering from kidney failure you will know that the man is ill he is on dialysis and that is nie pap and vleis, he is not playing golf, so I do not think he should suffer just because Msholozi did Schabir a favour. Schabir should be sent back inside as he is now fit to serve his sentence.
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lindsay

what are they crying for are they crying that Keeble's murderers are still out and never seen a jail cell are they crying that the drug lord agliotti never seen the jail cell please people the dude is sick let go of the grudges already
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CYBORICO

what happened to walus jalus being Hani killer who is this derby lewis now
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Papage

Let us correct things, if he is fit again,can he please go serve his last sentence, just like Shabir, I think he must go back and to his full term.
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lindsay

Jackie didn't ki ll nor conspire to k ill any one like derby lewis so the cases are not the same people
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MommaC

lindsay

..... but his actions left many people dead anyhow.

You cannot possibly tell me that the crime rate in SA and the drugs in SA are not killing people. A lot of that is directly due to Selebi's conduct. He may not have handed the criminals the guns but he certainly handed them the information which allowed them to avoid being caught,
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malemaforpresident

The ANC let Government is just confused If that is the case so let the justice system release Derby-Lewis it is very much unfair what about schabir then Yengeni why opening their big mouth now nxaaa
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candilious

Jus t heard that Selebi suffered a stroke he cannot see .............tjo speechles
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lindsay

@MommaC

point is those criminals were never prosecuted instead they were given a lifeline. can you guarantee to me that now that Selebi was in jail they stopped selling drug of course not.
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Cl!ck

This guy would play "Morgan Freeman" in Hollywood.. But then again, he'll end up in hostipal in the movie itself.. *sigh*

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MommaC

lindsay

I doubt it, but at least they are not being given Interpol information any more by the HEAD of our police force.

Our justice system is turning into a joke. Criminals get let off or pardoned all the time. It is like the judges don't even have eyes to see what these people do to our country. Now why shouldn't I sell out and give our military secret information to the highest bidder? Not like anyone cares - as long as I don't pull the trigger, no problem.
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LELAU

another comrade he will be playing golf soon
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DjEp

ANC and the ANC led Govenment are leading double standards! Im sure there are other bed ridden prisoners who will never be given medical parole becuase they are not ANC members or not friends to Zuma. It is for this rsn and more than our country is faaaaar from what is called democracy becuase of brotherhood and exilehood.
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Mgaraji

Lindsay I am with you 100%

Strange how MP forgot to discuss Scott-Crossley & Waterkloof 4.
Suddenly Mommac is interested to seem the outcome in Derby-Lewis issue because he is one of her race. White poeple never cease to amaze.
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candilious

@Djep- So agreeing with you .JUst recenlty prisoners were released not thinking about the ones that need to be with their families for te last days.90% of the released prisoners were recaptured for the same and most serious crimes now tell me how does that make a wrong ,right


@lindsay -I would put my life onit that Selebi and his co conspirititors are the reason for all The Nigerians defrauding our own people in this country TODAY ,tommorow and will continue to do so as we have a Mafia Elite running the country
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MommaC

Mgaraji

LOL
You are a real muppet.
I am merely interested in how the goose and gander theory pans out. They made their crooked laws for their own ends and didn't even consider the wider implications. Now they sit with egg on their faces.

For your information, I think Derby-Lewis should have been hung before they lifted the ban on hanging murderers. That would have solved all the problems once and for all. Again, they changed the law for their own ends back then and Derby-Lewis became a consequence they didn't even consider.

Story of our lives. Politicians and Mgarajis who don't bother to use their braincells
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candilious

@MommaC-Morning yip and i really want to hear how their will start thei argument against a Law which their have implimented
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Mgaraji

MommaC
Thanks now I know I am real muppet.
What is the difference (beside skin colour) bcause it is the same law that released Scott-Crossley & Waterkloof 4 and it was never an issue.
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ShadesOfGrey

What a farce our country has become. It's not a democracy, it's an oligarchy where those at the top can abuse their power with impunity as they know that they will not be held accountable for their deeds, and those unlucky enough to be caught red handed at least knows that the 'Good King' or (other chommies, sorry, I mean cadres) will ensure their release before too long.

How can we expect to deal with criminals, when the whole structure is crooked from the top down?
Our government has become one big rotten example of the Dunning-Kruger effect at work.
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lindsay

@candilious

yes i agree selebi was wrong no argument but so as agliotti but he was given a lifeline to continue what he was or is doing that doesn't justify anything if agliotti can get scot free so is selebe he must be pardoned too lets take cherryl cwele's case do you think if they lock up cwele and let nabolisa go will that serve any purpose?
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MommaC

candilious

LOL. They know full well that letting Derby-Lewis out is going to put the ish directly in the fan but how can they wriggle out of it if they have now signed in this stupid law? Maybe they should just be honest and make one law for one set of people and another law for the rest of us.
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MommaC

Mgaraji
MommaC
Thanks now I know I am real muppet.
What is the difference (beside skin colour) bcause it is the same law that released Scott-Crossley & Waterkloof 4 and it was never an issue.

..... well Scott-Crossley was never convicted of murder and he never got out on a bad dose of fake-a-litus and the Waterkloof 4 (well only two really as the other two are still in prison) got out because they were under age.

Now perhaps you could tell me what that has to do with the law relating to medical parole? Or do you not understand what 'medical parole' entails?
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DjEp

Zuma must declare himself the worst leader this planet has ever seen. He makes decisions where and when its not necesary and when he is suppose to make a decisive decision he makes excuses. He hasnt said anything about the Limpopo books issue, but was quick to relieve Cele off his duties.
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RobinH

Derby-Lewis, ouens......... A better life for all!!!!! Ja right.
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Sinudeity_

We have a HUGE corruption issue in South Africa. But meanwhile, all the corrupt scuuum in government, either get sick leave or serve VERY short sentences.

Yengeni served 4 months for a 5 year prison sentence.
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Sinudeity_

Mgaraji - Are you in favour of selebi's release, because he is black and you are black?
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Mgaraji

MommaC
Mgaraji
MommaC
Thanks now I know I am real muppet.
What is the difference (beside skin colour) bcause it is the same law that released Scott-Crossley & Waterkloof 4 and it was never an issue.

..... well Scott-Crossley was never convicted of murder and he never got out on a bad dose of fake-a-litus and the Waterkloof 4 (well only two really as the other two are still in prison) got out because they were under age.

Now perhaps you could tell me what that has to do with the law relating to medical parole? Or do you not understand what 'medical parole' entails?
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Let the muffet remind the genius that Scott-Crossley was convicted of first degree murder and sentence to life in prison in Sept 2005. Simon Mathebula his accomplice was sentenced to 15yrs, he is still serving his 15yrs sentence. White lies.
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MommaC

Mgaraji

No. Scott-Crossley appealed and the conviction was overturned in favour of a lesser conviction for tampering with evidence. Maybe you should keep up with news.
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Sinudeity_

Mgaraji - Clive is terminally ill. Thanks to the new laws giving medical parole, Clive will be a free man onee of these days.
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Sinudeity_

MommaC - Nice job on locking the mo article from comments MommaC.
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MommaC

Sinudeity_

Eish, jammer boet.
Don't think it was me though as my comment is still there - gods alone knows who went worse than that!
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RobinH

Sin. People say their piece, as they should be allowed, particularly on such a contentious issue. Sowetan editors are simply spineless.
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DjEp

As for Derby Lewis he will have to do more than just being ill, he must change his membership to that of ANC, change his skin colour to be black and finaly change his home language to ZULU. All this process will take more than his life, so he might as well forget.
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MicaParis

We do not have any problem when everybody is given a medical parole by rule and procedure of legal and evident health reasoning! But however we do have a problem when the same equally inclined medical parole in terms of section 9 of the Constitution, is discriminatory in terms of political affiliation and friendship coupled with segregation in terms of a certain couler of our skins! We do not want to strategically replace the Group Areas Act with another form of totally unfair and illegal 'Comradeship' contaminated aroma in terms of politically quackmired rotten antics. We want to call ''our'' ANC Comrades to order by reminding them to stop advocating and protectively trying in fatal failure to defend none defenseless generally wrong antics thereby 'raping' our clearly defined clean Government correctional commitment! We would like to remind our cadres that the Government in terms of section 3(2)(c) and the Preamble of our Constitution belong equally to all South African citizens regardless of couler and political affiliation!
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spitaro

leave the old man alone
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Sinudeity_

spitaro - "leave the old man alone"

Clive lewis?
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mhlupheki

i feel sorry for Selebi because i think he is really ill. i saw him when he was found guilty that this man is ill.
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malemaforpresident

@Mgaraji
Lindsay I am with you 100%
Strange how MP forgot to discuss Scott-Crossley & Waterkloof 4.
Suddenly Mommac is interested to seem the outcome in Derby-Lewis issue because he is one of her race. White poeple never cease to amaze
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Chief this time is not about the race issue it is about fairness in the justice system you cannot get sick when you are about to approach the prison door Jackie is a crook just like Yengeni and shabir for as long as you are not a card carrying member of the ANC you deserve jail term, you don’t deserve a tender and or a deployment to municipalities that is the policy of the ANC

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candilious

@lindsay- Reason for this is their were suppose to serve the public not they own interest. So they accompices wil get they day for now these corrupt Politians should get theirs

@MommaC- Indeed how koekoes can one be huh?
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candilious

@malemaforpresident- True that right there but their do not execise the poolicies which they signed in yellow black green & gold.............
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masauso2424

Hey stop winching winching on the issue for the release of sickling ANC liberation fighters who just made mistakes by being corrupt but did not go around killing black people as a hobby during apartheid and those whites are free in a free South Africa even to day and even refusing to blend as Africans.
Keep quite and dont compare the killer of Hani and corrupt Selebi. Surely these two do not match at all. The guy was suppose to be in 6ft down everlasting prison and now certain sector of sociaty are comparing the dead and the one in prison. Please wake up here. Why cant the family of the killer plead for his forgiviness from the family of Hani period. Let Hani's family assist in applying for his freedom not comparing. I think you need Mugabe to come and rule here for just one month and all this will disappear into the sea swiming not at the airport. I mean let him and his family apply on the merits in the constitution not comparing and making noise on Selebi.
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Sinudeity_

masauso2424 - Why are you showing any sympathy for selebi? Because he is black? He sold black folks out to a white dude for money.
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RobinH

masauso: History, by definition, is past. Some of us are actually trying to live for a future. Sitting and whining about the evils of the past, which no-one disputes, helps no-one, and has absolutely no bearing on a matter of legal accountability and fairness. Use that space for thinking.
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Papas28!

to hell with lewis
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amaNtuli

Who will be the next ANC leader??
You can vote here: www.faceof.it !!!!!
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