Never mind the law. How is the principal expected to run the school without resources. He says he did not expel anybody. If you take a sample of those same parents and follow them you will find them walking out of bottles stores with cases of beer of fridays. Some South Africans are good at shirking their responsibilities. Report Abuse
R 400 a year ... surely that is not too much to pay for your child’s education. We need to get rid of this culture of entitlement; we all have to pay services we get from government.
Sowetan some of your stories encourage wrong behaviour, instead of coming up with the money parents know they can run to the newspapers and they will be made to look like victims. Whilst expulsions can never be condoned over this matter I fully support the principal, parents must explain what is stopping them from paying fees and only in deserving cases should the fee be waivered.
That is what we want from our principals.The principal must be able to defend him in a good manner for a good course. I am convince that the principal is in order. I know the situation very well. It is not easy to attract the attention of parents unless you pest a child. however our law is equaly ignorant like Zuma. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Sinudeity_
During apartheid, the goverment didnt want to create a culture of beggars under the Afrikaans people. As such, all students had to pay annual school fees. Even though it was a tiny amount, it believed that it would remove them from a culture of reliance on handouts. Report Abuse
Haaibo leave the poor principal alone now, he tried coming up with a solution mos honestly if the parents are responsible enough they will see how desperate this situation is. Was the principal even wrong to suggest that they contribute R1.33 I mean most of their kids are spoilt anyways they give them R50 pocket money on a daily basis buys them expensive clothes latest phones etc but they cant pay R400 for school fees its crazy, some parents think just like their spoilt kids Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Mxaueht
So the principal is being running the school with only school fund from 209 pupil (R83600 instead of R374400), yet 100% pass rate is expected at the end of the year. Dependency culture is killing the future of our children. Some parents do not prioritise, they say it is government job to provide education to their children, yet their are staying in RDP house and getting grants every month and spend money on booze and ukuloyana.......................nxn were are getting tired of this nonse, we must do something, I mean really............................ Report Abuse
Some of the children are orphans, and those who take care of them have to balance between providing them with food and paying school fees
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This is pathetic, this orphans are either getting foster care grant R790.00 per month or child support grant R250 so I dont think that somebody who is getting that much per month can fail to pay R400 school fees given that the pricipal is willing to get it in instalment..ppl are used to being spoon feed,they wants everything for free Report Abuse
These parents expect the school to run efficiently and that the students must pass their matric and yet they do not pay school fees. Come on R400 a year not a month can be achieved. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
nsukuangel
This to me sound like a good and well qualified Principal to me, and he is doing a very good jobs as you can see by the pass rate he achieves. then now some very incompetent ANC politician is going to fire him in order to garner votes in the community at the expense of the pupils future. Only in SA it happens like this...People shall pay for their services, entitlement tendencies should be berried in Zim for all I care. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
LBS
Good morning all!
This is an example of what is so wrong in this country - the sense ENTITLEMENT which the ANC have encouraged to garner votes!!
F REE houses /electricity /water /health care / education
There are not enough tax payers to cover all the freebies expected by the parasites/f ree loaders.
EVERYONE must contribute according to their means, even if it is going to the school and helping maintain the buildings and grounds if they are genuinely cash strapped.
The principal is doing a sterling job with education results - he should get all the support he needs!! Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Maratachelete
The problem with parents of nowadays is that they expect everything from free,and this is because our government has given them a sense of entitlement,because they are poor anf from disadvantaged backgrounds,because of the apartheid.How pathetic,instead of making sure they do whatever they can for their children's education,they leave it for the government. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Sinudeity_
Maratachelete - "instead of making sure they do whatever they can for their children's education,they leave it for the government."
Pathetic, some of us are paying more than that just a month plus transport, now come on parents dont be so hard or difficult maan. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Tasto
Broederbond\NATS knew this and did not chose this route:
The detrimental effects of the idea that State aid can take the place of
personal effort and initiative are considerable. The sense of
responsibility for supporting oneself, one’s parents or children, is
immediately weakened, and very soon the poor man is tempted to
shirk all responsibility. In this way all desire for honest labour is
eventually lost, and he is tempted to resort to all kinds of deception
and trickery. His disposition becomes one not only of unthankfulness
but of continual dissatisfaction, because in his opinion too little
consideration is shown him. In the worst cases he becomes a
shameless parasite on society without any desire or power to support
himself, and as such becomes the despair of the social reformer. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Maratachelete
@Sinudeity,I mean,the children are the parents' responsibility--not government's and the parents should be actively involved in their children's education,and some of the high school pupils should exactly get weekend jobs,so they can help their parents,instead of enagaging in untoward activities,such as sex,alcohol and smoking etc. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
VavaVoom25
Hhayi ke this is bullshit how is the principal suppose to do with this situation but the parents expect quality education for their kids. the school fees has not been increased for the past seven years but still they cant paid.........mxi unfair Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Sinudeity_
Maratachelete - Yeah, agree.
One of the important things that school teaches you, is discipline. Discipline to study, to do your homework etc. That discipline is shirked away, with the current teens.
Maybe they think the government will support them, they dont have to worry. Maybe some of them are thinking, there isnt going to be work for me, so why bother.
Reverse psychology should be kicking in, someone tells the kids, they will never amount to anything, and he or she should work harder to prove everyone else wrong.
Dunno, but schools/government isnt doing it right. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
VavaVoom25
@Maratachelete
@Sinudeity,I mean,the children are the parents' responsibility--not government's and the parents should be actively involved in their children's education,and some of the high school pupils should exactly get weekend jobs,so they can help their parents,instead of enagaging in untoward activities,such as sex,alcohol and smoking etc.
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thats true! atleast if they have pay half of the amount up to so far
Pathetic, some of us are paying more than that just a month plus transport, now come on parents dont be so hard or difficult maan.
.............................................
We pay more and it increases every year! Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
MGEEZ
Credit can only be given to the ruling party for this mentality by the parents. Teachers from SGB are not paid and electricity would be switched off and this will also affect those pupils who have paid; the ruling party needs to get its house in order and support public servants who are doing excellent work!!! Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Tasto
When anc came to power they should have set up comision to diagonise the ills of SA under apartheid be charting way foward,its like they left on journey without a map\plan.Someone once said the anc is not governing this country but managing this country for the multi-national&Stellenbosch mafia:
"The Commission is convinced that much of the assistance is given in
such a way as to have a demoralizing effect on poor whites and so
increases the difficulty of their rehabilitation. It causes loss of
independence and may imbue them with a sense of inferiority, impairs
their industry, weakens their sense of personal responsibility, and helps
to make them dishonest" Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Maratachelete
@Sinudiety
@Vavavoom25, the parents will not picket at the school,to have the school fees scrapped and they will claim that they are poor,so they can't afford.I don't know,but in my days in high school,I had to a get a weekend job,so I didn't have to depend on amybody,because I was grown enough to know about things that were far from me,so I didn't see how I could use my knowledge for something better.Another guys,is that we have this victim mindset,instead of not allowing your circumstances to victimise us,we use them to try and get other people to take pity on us. Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
mthosam
F**k the dept, they must also investigte why parents are not paying their fees. May a good municipality cut electricity, that will be a good expulsion. leave the principal alone. supply textbooks idiots Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Budapat
VOETSEK EDUCATION DEPARTMENT, all you know is to react instead of being proactive in funding these schools. how is the principal supposed to manage the school on daily basis and pay for services if over half the school kids aren't paying the fees to the school? secondly wena Msomi i doubt you are in good books as a parent in that school, you sound more like a PASS ONE PASS ALL parent who happen to exploit every opportunity of FREE things, SWINE!! Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Phuphethakatha
Only R400 a year ! I already pay more than that a month for a single kid, not to mention all... Report Abuse
Jul 25, 2012
Dzel
Phuphethakatha
Only R400 a year ! I already pay more than that a month for a single kid, not to mention all...
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Some of us pay three times as much in creche fees for a 3 year old, add extra mural activities it goes up to R 1,500. A parent who thinks R 400 p.a. is too much to pay will in all likelihood not be involved in helping their kids with school work as they view educating their kids as someone else's responsibility.
No parent who takes their kid's education seriously would complain about paying R 400. Sometimes we use poverty as an excuse for not taking an interest. I am not convinced poverty is a factor, parents can afford this amount even if it is R 40 every month for 10 months.
I agree with Pointman- a certain extent. Some parents are genuinely too poor to pay. The pricipal should use his discretion and also approach the National Education Dept for help. I am sure all Mzansians would agree, the education of our future leaders must never be compromised. The western world started by financing children's education, to ensure their countries' production and systems are functioning. We should never mess around with our children's education Report Abuse
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Pointman
Never mind the law. How is the principal expected to run the school without resources. He says he did not expel anybody. If you take a sample of those same parents and follow them you will find them walking out of bottles stores with cases of beer of fridays. Some South Africans are good at shirking their responsibilities.Report Abuse
Traveljunie
pathetic behaviour from the parents.Report Abuse
Mas-culin
@PointmanI totally agree with you...
masculinnkosi_gmail
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Dzel
R 400 a year ... surely that is not too much to pay for your child’s education. We need to get rid of this culture of entitlement; we all have to pay services we get from government.Sowetan some of your stories encourage wrong behaviour, instead of coming up with the money parents know they can run to the newspapers and they will be made to look like victims. Whilst expulsions can never be condoned over this matter I fully support the principal, parents must explain what is stopping them from paying fees and only in deserving cases should the fee be waivered.
Report Abuse
Secretary
That is what we want from our principals.The principal must be able to defend him in a good manner for a good course. I am convince that the principal is in order. I know the situation very well. It is not easy to attract the attention of parents unless you pest a child. however our law is equaly ignorant like Zuma.Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
During apartheid, the goverment didnt want to create a culture of beggars under the Afrikaans people. As such, all students had to pay annual school fees. Even though it was a tiny amount, it believed that it would remove them from a culture of reliance on handouts.Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
Dzel - Morning buddy.Report Abuse
Mellow
Haaibo leave the poor principal alone now, he tried coming up with a solution mos honestly if the parents are responsible enough they will see how desperate this situation is. Was the principal even wrong to suggest that they contribute R1.33 I mean most of their kids are spoilt anyways they give them R50 pocket money on a daily basis buys them expensive clothes latest phones etc but they cant pay R400 for school fees its crazy, some parents think just like their spoilt kidsReport Abuse
Mxaueht
So the principal is being running the school with only school fund from 209 pupil (R83600 instead of R374400), yet 100% pass rate is expected at the end of the year. Dependency culture is killing the future of our children. Some parents do not prioritise, they say it is government job to provide education to their children, yet their are staying in RDP house and getting grants every month and spend money on booze and ukuloyana.......................nxn were are getting tired of this nonse, we must do something, I mean really............................Report Abuse
Goodest
Bayanxila ke aba abazali.....Report Abuse
Chichima
Some of the children are orphans, and those who take care of them have to balance between providing them with food and paying school fees.................................................................
This is pathetic, this orphans are either getting foster care grant R790.00 per month or child support grant R250 so I dont think that somebody who is getting that much per month can fail to pay R400 school fees given that the pricipal is willing to get it in instalment..ppl are used to being spoon feed,they wants everything for free
Report Abuse
Dzel
Good morning Sin.Report Abuse
Chichi7
These parents expect the school to run efficiently and that the students must pass their matric and yet they do not pay school fees. Come on R400 a year not a month can be achieved.Report Abuse
nsukuangel
This to me sound like a good and well qualified Principal to me, and he is doing a very good jobs as you can see by the pass rate he achieves. then now some very incompetent ANC politician is going to fire him in order to garner votes in the community at the expense of the pupils future. Only in SA it happens like this...People shall pay for their services, entitlement tendencies should be berried in Zim for all I care.Report Abuse
LBS
Good morning all!This is an example of what is so wrong in this country - the sense ENTITLEMENT which the ANC have encouraged to garner votes!!
F REE houses /electricity /water /health care / education
There are not enough tax payers to cover all the freebies expected by the parasites/f ree loaders.
EVERYONE must contribute according to their means, even if it is going to the school and helping maintain the buildings and grounds if they are genuinely cash strapped.
The principal is doing a sterling job with education results - he should get all the support he needs!!
Report Abuse
Maratachelete
The problem with parents of nowadays is that they expect everything from free,and this is because our government has given them a sense of entitlement,because they are poor anf from disadvantaged backgrounds,because of the apartheid.How pathetic,instead of making sure they do whatever they can for their children's education,they leave it for the government.Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
Maratachelete - "instead of making sure they do whatever they can for their children's education,they leave it for the government."Shame, the kids have no future :(
Report Abuse
Mygirl
Pathetic, some of us are paying more than that just a month plus transport, now come on parents dont be so hard or difficult maan.Report Abuse
Tasto
Broederbond\NATS knew this and did not chose this route:The detrimental effects of the idea that State aid can take the place of
personal effort and initiative are considerable. The sense of
responsibility for supporting oneself, one’s parents or children, is
immediately weakened, and very soon the poor man is tempted to
shirk all responsibility. In this way all desire for honest labour is
eventually lost, and he is tempted to resort to all kinds of deception
and trickery. His disposition becomes one not only of unthankfulness
but of continual dissatisfaction, because in his opinion too little
consideration is shown him. In the worst cases he becomes a
shameless parasite on society without any desire or power to support
himself, and as such becomes the despair of the social reformer.
Report Abuse
Maratachelete
@Sinudeity,I mean,the children are the parents' responsibility--not government's and the parents should be actively involved in their children's education,and some of the high school pupils should exactly get weekend jobs,so they can help their parents,instead of enagaging in untoward activities,such as sex,alcohol and smoking etc.Report Abuse
VavaVoom25
Hhayi ke this is bullshit how is the principal suppose to do with this situation but the parents expect quality education for their kids. the school fees has not been increased for the past seven years but still they cant paid.........mxi unfairReport Abuse
Sinudeity_
Maratachelete - Yeah, agree.One of the important things that school teaches you, is discipline. Discipline to study, to do your homework etc. That discipline is shirked away, with the current teens.
Maybe they think the government will support them, they dont have to worry. Maybe some of them are thinking, there isnt going to be work for me, so why bother.
Reverse psychology should be kicking in, someone tells the kids, they will never amount to anything, and he or she should work harder to prove everyone else wrong.
Dunno, but schools/government isnt doing it right.
Report Abuse
VavaVoom25
@Maratachelete@Sinudeity,I mean,the children are the parents' responsibility--not government's and the parents should be actively involved in their children's education,and some of the high school pupils should exactly get weekend jobs,so they can help their parents,instead of enagaging in untoward activities,such as sex,alcohol and smoking etc.
...................................................................................
thats true! atleast if they have pay half of the amount up to so far
Report Abuse
VavaVoom25
@MygirlPathetic, some of us are paying more than that just a month plus transport, now come on parents dont be so hard or difficult maan.
.............................................
We pay more and it increases every year!
Report Abuse
MGEEZ
Credit can only be given to the ruling party for this mentality by the parents. Teachers from SGB are not paid and electricity would be switched off and this will also affect those pupils who have paid; the ruling party needs to get its house in order and support public servants who are doing excellent work!!!Report Abuse
Tasto
When anc came to power they should have set up comision to diagonise the ills of SA under apartheid be charting way foward,its like they left on journey without a map\plan.Someone once said the anc is not governing this country but managing this country for the multi-national&Stellenbosch mafia:"The Commission is convinced that much of the assistance is given in
such a way as to have a demoralizing effect on poor whites and so
increases the difficulty of their rehabilitation. It causes loss of
independence and may imbue them with a sense of inferiority, impairs
their industry, weakens their sense of personal responsibility, and helps
to make them dishonest"
Report Abuse
Maratachelete
@Sinudiety@Vavavoom25, the parents will not picket at the school,to have the school fees scrapped and they will claim that they are poor,so they can't afford.I don't know,but in my days in high school,I had to a get a weekend job,so I didn't have to depend on amybody,because I was grown enough to know about things that were far from me,so I didn't see how I could use my knowledge for something better.Another guys,is that we have this victim mindset,instead of not allowing your circumstances to victimise us,we use them to try and get other people to take pity on us.
Report Abuse
mthosam
F**k the dept, they must also investigte why parents are not paying their fees. May a good municipality cut electricity, that will be a good expulsion. leave the principal alone. supply textbooks idiotsReport Abuse
Budapat
VOETSEK EDUCATION DEPARTMENT, all you know is to react instead of being proactive in funding these schools. how is the principal supposed to manage the school on daily basis and pay for services if over half the school kids aren't paying the fees to the school? secondly wena Msomi i doubt you are in good books as a parent in that school, you sound more like a PASS ONE PASS ALL parent who happen to exploit every opportunity of FREE things, SWINE!!Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
Only R400 a year ! I already pay more than that a month for a single kid, not to mention all...Report Abuse
Dzel
PhuphethakathaOnly R400 a year ! I already pay more than that a month for a single kid, not to mention all...
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Some of us pay three times as much in creche fees for a 3 year old, add extra mural activities it goes up to R 1,500. A parent who thinks R 400 p.a. is too much to pay will in all likelihood not be involved in helping their kids with school work as they view educating their kids as someone else's responsibility.
No parent who takes their kid's education seriously would complain about paying R 400. Sometimes we use poverty as an excuse for not taking an interest. I am not convinced poverty is a factor, parents can afford this amount even if it is R 40 every month for 10 months.
Report Abuse
knobkirrie
I agree with Pointman- a certain extent. Some parents are genuinely too poor to pay. The pricipal should use his discretion and also approach the National Education Dept for help. I am sure all Mzansians would agree, the education of our future leaders must never be compromised. The western world started by financing children's education, to ensure their countries' production and systems are functioning. We should never mess around with our children's educationReport Abuse
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