Mellow

He said he would plead not guilty to 25 counts of murder, reckless and negligent driving.
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NOT GUILTY is he freaking kidding me now I hope no one gets to read this news today cause he is a dead man with or without bail community will most def k.ill him this one, He k.illed ppl 25 of them by being negligent and he pleads not guilty iyoooo am lost for words

In his application for bail, a clearly shaken Mandlazi, who had a bandage on his head, said he had four sons, all born of different mothers.
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My goodness the boy is just not a reckless driver 4 kids diff mothers oohhh Mary mother of Jesus, he is 32 works in a farm and have 4 bambinos haai neh SA we need to wakeup really

I was so sad when I read that one of the deceased was 23 and the only bread winner in his family why mara?
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Memme

Accidents happen everywhere and people do die everyday due to accidents, and no one can just wake up one day and says im going to cause an accident today. The families of the victims are so hurt and angry which is understandable and the driver must also face the law yes but sometimes we need to be realistic in cases like these, The community will be wrong if they attack this driver because of what happened.

He must serve his sentence of course but let's not forget that accidents do happen every second of our lives and people do die.
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Sugaar

Not quilty until proven so ,why ppl like mellow are so fast to dudge.
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BaleliM

There were about 44 passengers in the truck.
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The story does not tell us how big the truck was. 44 passengers sounds more like an over load and if it was, then braking was not easy.
Also, the rail crossing bell and lights, no one has mentioned whether these were in working order. If they were, then this man is guilty of killing all those people.

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Flemza

The truck stalled when he was crossing the railway line , the truck had a mechanical faulty , where is the truck owner who knew that his truck is faulty and just because he is a racist still let innocent people use the truck , to me he is the most guilty one who must be charge , I know Mandlazi was on the driving seat of the truck , but if the truck did not have a mechanical faulty it should have crossed that rail line without any problem.
If there was justice the racist farmer must be the one being charged and sentence to 25 lives in jail without parole , and his farm must be put under adminstration to keep on producing to loof after the families of the deceased
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Kaylae

Sho*t the messenger right?Did they atleast take the truck for inspection,you'll find that it is a nkosi sikelele truck,no brakes,shocks whatsoever but the employer expects the employees to arrive at work everyday,on time and unharmed.Pity it was this guy who was entrusted to transport these people then again 44 people in a truck,uhmmm thinking is it according to road rules that trucks transport people?cause i heard that even bakkies without canopies are not allowed to carry passengers.

I feel for you baba,hope you get the right counselling and obviously if found guilty serve time,your uncle also died in that accident meaning it was not intentional either way that's why it is called an accident
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Mellow

@Sugaar Just to entertain your ranting, doesnt look like you've been following this tragedy since it unfolded well I have and if you feel like sitting there and making excuses for this guy then go ahead am not bout to and I wont apologise for it. Go back search for all the stories since Friday read them thoroughly then exercise your judgement and leave ppl like Mellow who are quick to judge for they have their own reasons to doing so and dearie please shout out if you struggling to find the stories I will help I'll just add it to my 67min


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Mellow

@Kaylae The guy failed to stop at a level crossing could've been due to overloading like BaleliM is saying or maybe he was trying to be a speedy gonzales being reckless and negligent like that as much as it wasnt intentional fact is ppl lost their lives and he is about to pay for it
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WakeUpSouthAfrica

Flemza - The 'racist farmer'. Is that how you brand all farmers now? As for your allegations, there is zero proof to back up any of the venom you are sprouting. Just letting your racism shine today it seems.
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brother1

hhayi cha for ur info wena lotsi the is a racist farmer behind all this, not this time lena i truck yemuntfu lomnyama, lohluleke kulandzela timphawu temgwaco ngobe kune stop sign lesikhulu yena wakhetsa kungemi then u say a white men cause this. u must ask b4 u talk crap
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MorenaWaPolelo

Head phones!!!
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Buc4life

Memme
Accidents happen everywhere and people do die everyday due to accidents, and no one can just wake up one day and says im going to cause an accident today. The families of the victims are so hurt and angry which is understandable and the driver must also face the law yes but sometimes we need to be realistic in cases like these, The community will be wrong if they attack this driver because of what happened.

He must serve his sentence of course but let's not forget that accidents do happen every second of our lives and people do die.
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hello Memme.
Some accidents could be avoided, if not by our reckless driving.
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Marquez

Accidents do happen hey but this dude lives a very reckless life yerrrrr
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Buc4life

Accidents do happen, but some could have been avoided. People, SA is one of the leading countries worldwide when it comes to road accidents. Drivers are reckless, and have no respect for other drivers and cyclists, runners.
Logic tells me that this guy was pretty much in high speed. Think about this: the train missed him. So that tells me that he was going fast but nor fast enough for the oncoming goods train. I mean the back of the truck was hit, and the workers were hit. the front part of the truck(logic tells me) was already over the track.
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Phunyukabemphethe

Memme
Accidents happen everywhere and people do die everyday due to accidents, and no one can just wake up one day and says im going to cause an accident today
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So true, it just happen like wink of an eye
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WakeUpSouthAfrica

brother1 - "the is a racist farmer behind all this"

No he's not. Dont be a tool.
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takoskonvict

this is the act of some external forces beyond the poor driver`s control. please lets refrain from crushing the poor driver.
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Shredder

@WakeUpSouthAfrica
Flemza - The 'racist farmer'. Is that how you brand all farmers now? As for your allegations, there is zero proof to back up any of the venom you are sprouting. Just letting your racism shine today it seems.
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Leave such people, you won't gain anything from them instead you will just get worked up.
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takoskonvict

if you are from the rural areas or villages, you will think twice before blaming the poor driver. this is how people are transported in poor villages. tractors are also used as a means of transport in those areas.
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WakeUpSouthAfrica

Shredder - Yeah, ur right. Wise words and actions to follow for Mandela day.
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BaleliM

@ Flemza- puzzled and buffled by you this morning
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Phineas-the-Painter

Jst Put Urself in the Truck Drivers Position & U will Undersatnd dat It ws Not his Intentions .. Shame! .. the Poor Guy had 2 Be a SCAPEGOAT .. & lets Not Forget dat der is often a 'THIRD EYE' _ *Spiritually Speaking* IN similar Road Accidents like these our Country .. Condolences to the Families for the Loss
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Phunyukabemphethe

Buc4life
Accidents do happen, but some could have been avoided. People, SA is one of the leading countries worldwide when it comes to road accidents. Drivers are reckless, and have no respect for other drivers and cyclists, runners.
Logic tells me that this guy was pretty much in high speed. Think about this: the train missed him. So that tells me that he was going fast but nor fast enough for the oncoming goods train. I mean the back of the truck was hit, and the workers were hit. the front part of the truck(logic tells me) was already over the track.
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Morning Champ

No one has licence to murder anyone, no one deserve to die in that manner. Let me say the truck was overloaded, loud music, maybe people were singing even headphone can distract the attention of driver to cause an accident not forgetting the status of the truck itself

Second point :is a driver of the taxi, a bus even car when accident happen he/she will avoid by all means his/her side to be smashed
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Impela

BaleliM
@ Flemza- puzzled and buffled by you this morning
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Shem...did you expect better?
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taba-e-kana

take your punishment like a man baba....how many times have you been warned to obey a level crossing and you still go and ignore thw warning....I pity you...if only you had also died in the accident...then you would be in peace
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Buc4life

Phunyukabemphethe
Buc4life
Accidents do happen, but some could have been avoided. People, SA is one of the leading countries worldwide when it comes to road accidents. Drivers are reckless, and have no respect for other drivers and cyclists, runners.
Logic tells me that this guy was pretty much in high speed. Think about this: the train missed him. So that tells me that he was going fast but nor fast enough for the oncoming goods train. I mean the back of the truck was hit, and the workers were hit. the front part of the truck(logic tells me) was already over the track.
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Morning Champ

No one has licence to murder anyone, no one deserve to die in that manner. Let me say the truck was overloaded, loud music, maybe people were singing even headphone can distract the attention of driver to cause an accident not forgetting the status of the truck itself

Second point :is a driver of the taxi, a bus even car when accident happen he/she will avoid by all means his/her side to be smashed
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OK, I hear you, but, irrespective of all those factors, the driver is liable for his actions. If there was loud music or the truck overloaded or passengers were singing, he was supposed to stop them.
Youe see, we cannot justify and accept the driver`s behaviour. He is, by law, supposed to know the rules of the road.
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BaleliM

Impela
BaleliM
@ Flemza- puzzled and buffled by you this morning
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Shem...did you expect better?
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unfortunately, yes. Thought that putting yourself in a person's shoes always gives us a better perspective to understanding the situation.
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Shredder

4 children with different mothers? Tjo! Tjo! Tjo Wa hlatha ne boss. I feel for him though. I don't think he woke up and planned to k!ll people.
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wendyyah

lock him up and throw away the keys. peoples lives were shattered under his hands.
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Candyboy

Perfect......he should rot in jail
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Mellow

@BaleliM girl what did you expect from Flemza

@Takos I sense you bout to blame this on Friday the 13th as much as we say accidents do happen and true they do lets not forget who causes those accidents HUMANS due to reckless, inconsiderate negligent driving

@Phunyu So you think the driver was most probably distracted by his colleagues? Possible hey and knowing men and the funny stunts they like pulling while driving, I can hear some coaching him to beat the train well sad he gonna pay the price alone, I still feel him pleading guilty will be better atleast community and the families of the deceased will feel like he's taking some responsibility.
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Phunyukabemphethe

Buc4life
Phunyukabemphethe
Buc4life
Accidents do happen, but some could have been avoided. People, SA is one of the leading countries worldwide when it comes to road accidents. Drivers are reckless, and have no respect for other drivers and cyclists, runners.
Logic tells me that this guy was pretty much in high speed. Think about this: the train missed him. So that tells me that he was going fast but nor fast enough for the oncoming goods train. I mean the back of the truck was hit, and the workers were hit. the front part of the truck(logic tells me) was already over the track.
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Morning Champ

No one has licence to murder anyone, no one deserve to die in that manner. Let me say the truck was overloaded, loud music, maybe people were singing even headphone can distract the attention of driver to cause an accident not forgetting the status of the truck itself

Second point :is a driver of the taxi, a bus even car when accident happen he/she will avoid by all means his/her side to be smashed
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OK, I hear you, but, irrespective of all those factors, the driver is liable for his actions. If there was loud music or the truck overloaded or passengers were singing, he was supposed to stop them.
Youe see, we cannot justify and accept the driver`s behaviour. He is, by law, supposed to know the rules of the road.
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You cannot stop jubilation of others,I used taxis when I was a student for Mabopane and Soshanguve before i moved to Mamelodi, those taxi play full blast music you can not interfere with driver till i decide to have my own,but if the accident happen the driver is liable
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DjEp

If murder has the same definition, then one is too many! So Jub Jub must also go behind bars, why is this matter quick and closing while Jub Jub's draged for 94 years??
This country's judiciary system is the worst in the world, is it because the poor truck driver is from MP and not famous? Sies South Africa you are a disgrace im not proud to be born here at all.
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Tshiwo

Mpumalanga...I think there is real cause for all the accidents in that province; ILLEGAL license holders. A while back in the late 90's and later, a lot of people flocked to get their licenses there. And when I say "get" I mean literally getting without even knowing how to start a car. That is real "music."
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Maezizsto4Sure

Memme-The driver failed to stop at a level crossing and you call that an accident?Didnt he see the train moer dai ding ga e feta ya rasa man

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BaleliM

Mellow
@BaleliM girl what did you expect from Flemza
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morning friend- it is called positive thinking that maybe he will see the light. Lol

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hunkymaitus

Lets not turn this into white black issue,the driver did a flop and he shud face the coensequnces for his reckless driving.
tha container transport yona eng gafisa blaene.
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NeoBaBe

Wheever there is a level crossing, u dont just cross.. Its even worse if one uses the transport that is likely not road worthy and r carrying people. and the dude is going to anyway, either he commits suicide or the community kills him so nje i bail is out of question.

Im sure it wasn't intentional.. Shame i feel for the dude, 25 dead people at the same time under his name, WOW.
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hunkymaitus

@Maezizsto4Sure
Memme-The driver failed to stop at a level crossing and you call that an accident?Didnt he see the train moer dai ding ga e feta ya rasa man
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Ele gore dai maan ena ne a shebile kae? a jagetse go kgetlha dinamune.

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malemaforpresident

What about Jub Jub's case the law is unfair the poor guy [the driver] unfortunate part is that he is not famous and or a celebrity it did not take a week to put him on trial and a possible sentence is underway but Jub Jub case is about 3 years now this is too much
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UmbonoWam'

Its sad sad sad. I feel pity for the guy. Lets just watch and see if it will drag like the JubJub case.
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Xicoqa

@Mellow I dnt think i like your judgement either, wht if the breaks failed? why dont u count tht in yo possible scenarios? I am not saying the ones u counted are false but what if it was not an overload it was just a break failure? accident happen as Memme mentioned above
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Mellow

@BaleliM Not with Flemza no light shining that direction dear LOL

@Xicoqa well tough dearie like it dont like it I dont give a rat, all I know is 25 ppl are dead and someone must account for them, its common sense that one have to stop at a level crossing we talking about a train here you just dont take chances and talk about failing breaks so are you saying there are chances that the truck wasnt road worthy? Makes things worse then hey there's no such thing as accidents happen...ACCIDENTS HAPPEN CAUSE OF PPL
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Papage

Maybe in Maputo, trains wait for trucks at level crosing or there are no level crossings at all. The Authorities should never allow anyone from outside South Africa to drive withought permit from SA. His boss must be investigated as well, how did they allow him to transport so manty people in a truck. It is not for the first time this sort of a thing happen in Mpumalanga, some few years ago it happened and the driver was foreingh as well, why can't we learn from our mistakes.
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BaleliM

Xicoqa
@Mellow I dnt think i like your judgement either, wht if the breaks failed? why dont u count tht in yo possible scenarios? I am not saying the ones u counted are false but what if it was not an overload it was just a break failure? accident happen as Memme mentioned above
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If the breaks failed, and the bell and lights at the rail crossing were working, then surely the driver would have managed to change down breaks and reduce speed. now what are the chances that, the breaks were not working, the rail lights and bell were not working either and then a possible overload?
The driver survived, so that means the trailer is what was hit and that can only mean trying to beat the odds.
watching CSI is ruining me!
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mthosam

I think there are other parties that are also guilty, the owner of the truck possibly the farmer. What does the law says about the kind of transport used in this accident.
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DjEp

@Papage
Maybe in Maputo, trains wait for trucks at level crosing or there are no level crossings at all. The Authorities should never allow anyone from outside South Africa to drive withought permit from SA
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I dont think it is more on the country of origin, but an accident is inevitable you will not predict when it will happen. What i rather find disturbing is the fact that within a week he is about to be sentenced, the guy from the Cape who commited exactly the same offence or even more was sentenced after 2 years, Jub Jub did exactly the same and killed 4 people but he is still celebrating mandela day in Kliptown with free champagne. Where is the consistancy in our justice system, having said that such incidence we cannot prevent due to the incosistency!
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missgp02

@Memme, I agree with what you saying. It wasnt his intention to cause the accident but it happened. Yes it is sad to loose a loved one and sometimes passing the blame helps to ease the pain but in this case its sad cause this guy was the driver of that truck on the day. And i dont think blaming him will bring any of the lost souls, so the family should just focus on grieving for thier loved and eventually time will ease the pain.
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BaleliM

malemaforpresident
What about Jub Jub's case the law is unfair the poor guy [the driver] unfortunate part is that he is not famous and or a celebrity it did not take a week to put him on trial and a possible sentence is underway but Jub Jub case is about 3 years now this is too much
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not giving the driver bail right now is actually an attempt to save his life. We have 25 people dead from 25 different families with uncles/aunties/brothers/sisters/neighbours all wanting justice to be done.
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DjEp

@BaleliM
not giving the driver bail right now is actually an attempt to save his life. We have 25 people dead from 25 different families with uncles/aunties/brothers/sisters/neighbours all wanting justice to be done.
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But Sis what about the four families which Jub Jub robbed them their kids? does this means its right if done by a so called celebrity?
The guy needs justice just like everyone else, what happens to him out there i dont think the state must care becuase they didnt even know or cared of his existence before the accident.
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BaleliM

DjEp
@BaleliM
not giving the driver bail right now is actually an attempt to save his life. We have 25 people dead from 25 different families with uncles/aunties/brothers/sisters/neighbours all wanting justice to be done.
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But Sis what about the four families which Jub Jub robbed them their kids? does this means its right if done by a so called celebrity?
The guy needs justice just like everyone else, what happens to him out there i dont think the state must care becuase they didnt even know or cared of his existence before the accident
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No. it is not right but chances are that he might skip the country if given bail as he can not live in the same area that he was living in prior to the accident. Much as I want Jub Jub to pa for what he did, he is well known and can be recognised should he want to skip the country.
No one must be above the law irrespective of what role you play in society.
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Mswazi

That truck was too small to carry 44 people, maybe he fail to stop because of it was over loaded, who knows? or maybe he is driving like our taxi drivers (Bomageza) But he is NOT guilty for now till the court fund him guilty. Nitsandza kubanga msindvo kube anikwati nekushayela wena Mellow wakhona nx.
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ONEE

I guess pleading not guilty is also his lawyers advice, u know how they are.

I also believe the decision was good for his sake that the bale was denied, ppl will k.ill him out there its still fresh and they are fragile and angry
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maprie!

The fact that we don't know how big the truck was and what are the circumstances surrounding the incedent. This makes his innocent until proven guilty by the court of law.

Probable there was a mechanical failure on his car or the barriers at the crossing were not working or the traffic lighis at the rail crossing were not working.

Lets wait for the court proceedings before we give our vendict.
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shaharazad

The driver is guilty of failing to stop at a level crossing, hence the large number of the dead. The govt should legislate against people transported in vehicles suitable for 'goods only'. a truck is not suitable to transport human cargo. In other countries no-one is allowed to use 'heavy goods vehicles' to ferry people, due to health and safety issues and that they not designed for that purpose. SA is not Mali or Angola where vehicles to move people are in short supply. The govt should be held responsible for not safeguarding the lives of its own subjects, treating them like cattle all the time
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