Jail this mampara driver and throw away the key for good. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
TBGOLE
Both the driver and the owner of the truck should be jailed. How can the owner asked unlicensed driver to transport workers? The Owner should provide for the deseased family or hire them. This is so heartbreaking. *teardrop* Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
Doculam
@Mdala: "Jail this mampara driver and throw away the key for good."
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For sure! And Flemza as well for one track mindedness, selective observation of whats going on around him and having the "helpless victim" attitude for life! Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
MGEEZ
What a tragic loss; may their souls rest in peace. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Flemza - You wanna blame the farmer? For the driver not looking left and right and trying to beat the train? Get real dude. Your inhate irrational hatred and racism is showing. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
hulas
Among the victims there is 23 a year old Mxolisi.But why would a young man work on a farm. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
Mara_Y
President was shocked by the manner in which workers are transported to work place at this age in time. We were sold voetstoots by the Old man n the package is still wrapped and sealed.
Mara_Y - Surprised the president isnt shocked by the state of taxis and busses in South Africa. Converted panelvans used as taxi's. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
Flemza
@ WakeUpSouthAfrica
Flemza - You wanna blame the farmer? For the driver not looking left and right and trying to beat the train? Get real dude. Your inhate irrational hatred and racism is showing.
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This is not about racsim from me its about reality , Black African lifes have been lost here , and yet the farmer is nowring in his bed , why didn`t the farmer is he was not rascist organise proper transport for his workers , would like to go to work in the back of a goods designed to carry truck , would u , just think of it for a second , is that treating people as human beings or as goods , now u tell me WakeUpSouthAfrica , transporting felolw human beings in that truck is it not racism Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Flemza - Yeah, its about racism. Yours.
Lemme guess, the farmer had to buy a bus just for transportation? The workers had to walk all the way to the farm and back every day?
Meanwhile, flatbed panels are being converted into taxis, and you are very quiet in the issue. These racist taxi drivers who transport people in panelvans.
Flemza - What difference would it have made if this neglegant driver decided not to stop for a train, in a truck or in a bus?
Lets point blame where its due. The driver who was driving like an idiot. Who chose not to obey the rules of the road. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
MommaC
Flemza
A) I have yet to see any indication of who the farm owner is
B) I very much doubt that seatbelts would make much bloody difference if there is a couple tons of train bearing down on you
C) It is ridiculous to assume that the dude who puts his workers on the back of a truck is more 'racist' than the dude who makes so many assumptions just to prove his own racial bias Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
MommaC
WakeUpSouthAfrica
From some of the other reports, it seems like the driver stalled the truck when it was on the line and couldn't get it started again. Don't know that it was his fault as much as just his k@k luck Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
ONEE
You know I have noticed many at times how we begin to question risks people take that unfortunately led to their death after the incidents has happened.
Have you guys sat down and thought well how it feels when you have sat home looking for any kind of job and suddenly this job comes up?
You say yes to anything infact some can be witnesses to this : some start working even brfore signing their contracts. Nott bergers are choosers even worse when you are not well educated. let us be reasonable and stop making a fuss as if we dont know the truth.
There is no work out there its a dof eat dog situation, some people are graduates yet sitting at home their jobs are done by useles cousons and friends of somebody.
May their souls rest in Peace and God of all peace strengthens their families and may the Holy Spirit comfort them and give them peace. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
WakeUpSouthAfrica
MommaC - From some reports?
If a truck stalls on a train, and a train is approaching, it would mean that the passengers had enough time to jump out and run for it.
But if the passengers didnt have enough time to jump off and run, it would lead to consider that the driver took a big risk. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
MommaC
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Trains tend to move quickly.
The container the workers were travelling in seems to be one of those large shipping containers which can only be opened from the outside so it would have been pretty difficult for them to run - even if they had been able to see what was coming for them in time
Lets wait and see what the final verdict is before stinging the driver up. Report Abuse
If a truck stalls on a train, and a train is approaching, it would mean that the passengers had enough time to jump out and run for it.
But if the passengers didnt have enough time to jump off and run, it would lead to consider that the driver took a big risk.
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my sentiments but also waht MommaC explains makes sense.
its eithe he became selfish by not running to the back and open for them or he became selfish by taking an uncalculated risk of jumping while the train was aproaching closer, but I smell a Rat he is gonna rot in jail for rekless driving. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
MSG_S
They must also check the working condition of the warning signals next to the tracks,also check the goods train and also the efforts the train driver made like blowing the horn while approaching the crossing,his familiarity with this track route and his state of the mind because he is a driver and drivers drink alcohol. By the way 85% of drivers consume alcohol.
(pilots are the drunkards of this world hence you get alcohol on board and co-pilots for the party time on board assistsnce) Eish! Ndiyafa sistlama namhlanje. Moer! Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
Phuphethakatha
@hulas
Among the victims there is 23 a year old Mxolisi.But why would a young man work on a farm.
*****
Kids start working on farms from 13 yr of age. It's bad on farms...
@Mara_Y
This "we were sold out" phrase is getting hackneyed... Report Abuse
Jul 17, 2012
brother1
bafethu i am staying 20km away from the accident point & all the people on the truck,driver & the owner are staying where i stay in a place called Naas. no white man involved here a black men of my skin gave a truck to this unlicenced driver because the original driver was sick on friday. end of story Report Abuse
Jul 17, 2012
anon1320
@Flemza - I live in the area. This tragedy has been a shock (and hopefully a wake-up call) to all. The irony...yes, it is a white farmer...he contracted the labour to a labour broker (a practice by white and black farmers) to a black contractor (not that white contractors do anything differently). It is just sad to see that this is turned into a race war eventhough this is common practice by white/black farmers/contractors. The white farmer employed a black contractor (something to be proud of), yet he failed to ensure the safety of his employers. This is not the responsibility of the farmer. What needs urgent attention is our labour regulations. This is not an acceptable way to transport people. People are not cattle! They deserve to be treated with dignity - like we all do.
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Mdala
Jail this mampara driver and throw away the key for good.Report Abuse
TBGOLE
Both the driver and the owner of the truck should be jailed. How can the owner asked unlicensed driver to transport workers? The Owner should provide for the deseased family or hire them. This is so heartbreaking. *teardrop*Report Abuse
Doculam
@Mdala: "Jail this mampara driver and throw away the key for good."-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For sure! And Flemza as well for one track mindedness, selective observation of whats going on around him and having the "helpless victim" attitude for life!
Report Abuse
MGEEZ
What a tragic loss; may their souls rest in peace.Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Flemza - You wanna blame the farmer? For the driver not looking left and right and trying to beat the train? Get real dude. Your inhate irrational hatred and racism is showing.Report Abuse
hulas
Among the victims there is 23 a year old Mxolisi.But why would a young man work on a farm.Report Abuse
Mara_Y
President was shocked by the manner in which workers are transported to work place at this age in time. We were sold voetstoots by the Old man n the package is still wrapped and sealed.Nothing should shocked anyone.
Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Mara_Y - Surprised the president isnt shocked by the state of taxis and busses in South Africa. Converted panelvans used as taxi's.Report Abuse
Flemza
@ WakeUpSouthAfricaFlemza - You wanna blame the farmer? For the driver not looking left and right and trying to beat the train? Get real dude. Your inhate irrational hatred and racism is showing.
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This is not about racsim from me its about reality , Black African lifes have been lost here , and yet the farmer is nowring in his bed , why didn`t the farmer is he was not rascist organise proper transport for his workers , would like to go to work in the back of a goods designed to carry truck , would u , just think of it for a second , is that treating people as human beings or as goods , now u tell me WakeUpSouthAfrica , transporting felolw human beings in that truck is it not racism
Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Flemza - Yeah, its about racism. Yours.Lemme guess, the farmer had to buy a bus just for transportation? The workers had to walk all the way to the farm and back every day?
Meanwhile, flatbed panels are being converted into taxis, and you are very quiet in the issue. These racist taxi drivers who transport people in panelvans.
Get real dude.
Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Flemza - What difference would it have made if this neglegant driver decided not to stop for a train, in a truck or in a bus?Lets point blame where its due. The driver who was driving like an idiot. Who chose not to obey the rules of the road.
Report Abuse
MommaC
FlemzaA) I have yet to see any indication of who the farm owner is
B) I very much doubt that seatbelts would make much bloody difference if there is a couple tons of train bearing down on you
C) It is ridiculous to assume that the dude who puts his workers on the back of a truck is more 'racist' than the dude who makes so many assumptions just to prove his own racial bias
Report Abuse
MommaC
WakeUpSouthAfricaFrom some of the other reports, it seems like the driver stalled the truck when it was on the line and couldn't get it started again. Don't know that it was his fault as much as just his k@k luck
Report Abuse
ONEE
You know I have noticed many at times how we begin to question risks people take that unfortunately led to their death after the incidents has happened.Have you guys sat down and thought well how it feels when you have sat home looking for any kind of job and suddenly this job comes up?
You say yes to anything infact some can be witnesses to this : some start working even brfore signing their contracts. Nott bergers are choosers even worse when you are not well educated. let us be reasonable and stop making a fuss as if we dont know the truth.
There is no work out there its a dof eat dog situation, some people are graduates yet sitting at home their jobs are done by useles cousons and friends of somebody.
May their souls rest in Peace and God of all peace strengthens their families and may the Holy Spirit comfort them and give them peace.
Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
MommaC - From some reports?If a truck stalls on a train, and a train is approaching, it would mean that the passengers had enough time to jump out and run for it.
But if the passengers didnt have enough time to jump off and run, it would lead to consider that the driver took a big risk.
Report Abuse
MommaC
WakeUpSouthAfricaTrains tend to move quickly.
The container the workers were travelling in seems to be one of those large shipping containers which can only be opened from the outside so it would have been pretty difficult for them to run - even if they had been able to see what was coming for them in time
Lets wait and see what the final verdict is before stinging the driver up.
Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
MommaC - Ok, that does make sense.Report Abuse
ONEE
WakeUpSouthAfricaMommaC - From some reports?
If a truck stalls on a train, and a train is approaching, it would mean that the passengers had enough time to jump out and run for it.
But if the passengers didnt have enough time to jump off and run, it would lead to consider that the driver took a big risk.
***************
my sentiments but also waht MommaC explains makes sense.
its eithe he became selfish by not running to the back and open for them or he became selfish by taking an uncalculated risk of jumping while the train was aproaching closer, but I smell a Rat he is gonna rot in jail for rekless driving.
Report Abuse
MSG_S
They must also check the working condition of the warning signals next to the tracks,also check the goods train and also the efforts the train driver made like blowing the horn while approaching the crossing,his familiarity with this track route and his state of the mind because he is a driver and drivers drink alcohol. By the way 85% of drivers consume alcohol.(pilots are the drunkards of this world hence you get alcohol on board and co-pilots for the party time on board assistsnce) Eish! Ndiyafa sistlama namhlanje. Moer!
Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
@hulasAmong the victims there is 23 a year old Mxolisi.But why would a young man work on a farm.
*****
Kids start working on farms from 13 yr of age. It's bad on farms...
@Mara_Y
This "we were sold out" phrase is getting hackneyed...
Report Abuse
brother1
bafethu i am staying 20km away from the accident point & all the people on the truck,driver & the owner are staying where i stay in a place called Naas. no white man involved here a black men of my skin gave a truck to this unlicenced driver because the original driver was sick on friday. end of storyReport Abuse
anon1320
@Flemza - I live in the area. This tragedy has been a shock (and hopefully a wake-up call) to all. The irony...yes, it is a white farmer...he contracted the labour to a labour broker (a practice by white and black farmers) to a black contractor (not that white contractors do anything differently). It is just sad to see that this is turned into a race war eventhough this is common practice by white/black farmers/contractors. The white farmer employed a black contractor (something to be proud of), yet he failed to ensure the safety of his employers. This is not the responsibility of the farmer. What needs urgent attention is our labour regulations. This is not an acceptable way to transport people. People are not cattle! They deserve to be treated with dignity - like we all do.Report Abuse
Kobusdieboer
@Flemza- I are very offended met julle racist comment..... Vreiheitsfront voer!!!Report Abuse
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