RobinH

A wonderful initiative. Go for it! And good luck to you.
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hulas

I cant believe this! This coming from kwa zombie natal unbelievable.The nzulas are the most x()enophobic and tribalist people in our country.
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ngutha

I do not understand why do we South Africans should be nice to these so called foreigners. I DO understand that our STRUGGLE heroes went to their countries in EXILE during apartheid, but our heroes never went in millions. They went in couple of hundreds and thousand. Now, these guys come here in millions and millions. There is an estimate of +/- 2 million Zimbabweans illegally living in SA.

As much as our struggle heroes received help and assistant in apartheid days, this does not mean we owe foreigners free accommodation in SA. These youngsters from KZN should stop selling SA out. We do not need another million foreigners. We already have enough domestic problems. Bringing another million foreigners will add another million problems which we do not need at this time and moment.
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RobinH

Ngutha: So much for christian charity and being kind to others, eh! Wait till you are in need one day.

hulas: And your little outburst isn't tribalist> The log is in your own eye, Sir.
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lindsay

and i thought they were physical fighting among themselves. didn't their king insulted foreigners anyway.

@hulas

and here i was thinking Sothos were the most tribalistic in the country
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MommaC

So much for the 'Africa for Africans' argument.

The problem is not the 'refugees' that come in - it is the calibre of the average that come in. If a guy has crawled under a fence, has no documents and no ties then his ONLY chance of survival is crime. Likewise, the influx of crime syndicate members who seem to get a freee pass from our police. Unfortunately, all the migrants then get painted with the same smelly brush.

After 2008 our government did their usual trick of 'ignore it long enough and it will go away'. It won't.
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KarlZimbiri

There is no need for these KZN youth to go to Swaziland, already there is a strong bond between KZN and Swaziland, which is so strong such that Zulu Kings take wives from Swaziland, e.g Zwelithini’s third wife and her 2nd latest wife are from Swaziland. The bond is even more than the bond between KZN & EC. A person from Swaziland will be more welcomed in KZN than a person from Limpopo.
Botswana & Lesotho, they are also not treated like foreigners in SA.
These youth were supposed to take the bull by the horns and interact with youth from: Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi, Congo etc, because these are the people who on daily basis face hostile attitudes of South Africans.

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Makgorometja

@Ngutha,u said it all bro.I live in township,almost every lady from outside from the age of 14yrs have kids.Which means in 20yrs time we will be ruled by either Moosa or Idontknow/Promise/Goodenough in this country.This youth are trying to say u can come here Africa is for us all attitude.We cant really have everybody coming here.We understand we got to HELP,but its too much.The government does not help either soon people 's frustration will show
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Impela

KarlZimbiri
These youth were supposed to take the bull by the horns
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Eish!! Zulus can't win. Remember the outcry when they did take the bull by the horns? Lol.
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wesbuw22

Okay
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Mrazane

The bigger picture is that corruption in Africa is the root of all this migration and SA must not think they are immune you too may find yourself crawling under a fence to Zimbabwe and Mozambique because whilst they have hit rock bottom and will be rebuilding themselves the way Zambia, Nigeria etc are doing now, we are still on a downward spiral give it another election where the ANC wins and 10 more years, and Zimbabwe will be paradise. If people could stop being so narrow minded and look in the mirror we are all Africans and the solution is not purging SA of foreigners but SA leading by example and voting for another party as the ANC has failed but by the looks of things SAfricans are not different "mentally" to the very africans they despise they are of the same "calibre" to borrow from Momma C they continue to vote for corrupt people whilst burning the little resources they have in so call service delivery protests, protest with your vote that is more effect and abstinance is not protest it is cowardly, vuka mzansi!
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Comeback

@Momma 'ignore it and it will go away', well newsflash, the world is a global village they're here to stay.The sad truth about you xenophobics is that you're only against foreigners from Africa who are Africans just like you, when its a white European foreign you embrace him, isn't that sad. You're proving once again the shameful self-hatred that an African has. Another funny thing is that ppl get xenophobic when it's convenient, we all love DJ Fresh(Botswana), DJ Oscar(Zimbabwen), Akin Omotoso aka Khaya Motene Generations(Nigerian). Mbesuma was our hero when he scored all those goals for Chiefs, we get excited about CAF to see Drogba and Samuel Eto, etc.
@Ngutha you say only a handful South African went to exile, at this very moment do you have any idea how many South African are in UK, Australia - that's your homework. We all know the criminals is just a handful of foreigners, the stats from prisons have proven that, but don't you just love to use the criminal fact to justify your prejudice, & most xenophocics don't even have a passport, have been outside the borders that's why you're so narrow minded. Everyday you have your hair done by forigners, your domestic workers, the car guards, the professors at varsities, the specialist doctors, are they all criminals????
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MommaC

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To the best of my knowledge, DJ Fresh and co don't run a popular drug den in Sunnyside and I haven't heard of any of them breaking into houses to steal stuff.

There is nothing wrong with people coming to SA if they are contributing to the country. We have great teachers from Zim, exceptional lab staff from Nigeria, fantastic engineers from Mocambique and many other great 'foreigners' who are a credit to their nation and a blessing to us. Those are not the people who anyone objects to. It is the guy who is a criminal in his own country and then crawls under the fence to our country because our law keepers are easier to bribe. It is the drug lords who come in and take over whole suburbs, it is the smugglers who undercut prices and it is the general tsotsis who have no other choice but to steal as they don't have the paperwork to get a legitimate job. And don't try to tell me there aren't those out there,

Yes, black or white, the criminals should NOT BE HERE. The likes of the Russian mafia guys and the Agliotties in the country should be thrown out as well.
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Rakgadi-Tabeya

Talk about tribalistic people go kwaXhosa.

We share the same continent and the only diversity is our language
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True dat sista if only we could learn to live with that. We're not different at all - I for one have nothing against our fellow African brothers & sistas except those ba tlisang corruption then definitely those need to be deported asap.

A Mozambican and two Senegalese were thrown out of a train.
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What a shame - youth ya ga Malema
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Comeback

@MommaC, of course the nerve to leave your own country to go to another country and do crime is sickening, I only have a problem with South Africans who hate other Africans just by the mere fact that they're not from South Africa, that is my only problem, the 'bafunani la labantu, abahambe' talk I can't stand. Drugs have ruined our country, whether its 'wonga' cocaine etc. run by South African/Russian/Nigerian it's messing up our country big time - there is no excuse for crime
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Zimboy2

@Ngutha
There is an estimate of +/- 2 million Zimbabweans illegally living in SA.
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I think you need to check your facts - the documentation exercise by Home Affairs managed to correct that distorted assumption. Less than 250thousand Zims applied meaning the 2mill figure was a fabrication. To that figure, add maybe 20,000 who were already legal and the figure will still be below 300thousand. It's still a high figure but not anywhere near the 2mill lie.
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xolilanga

@hulas please tell me how many xenophobic attacks took place in KZN?
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MommaC

Comeback

True that.
Amusingly, the Nigerians complain about the number of SA tsotsis in Nigeria. It seems we had some kind of unofficial tsotsi swap at some stage. Just goes to show how this is a world wide problem and not just localised.
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BaleliM

ngutha
I do not understand why do we South Africans should be nice to these so called foreigners. I DO understand that our STRUGGLE heroes went to their countries in EXILE during apartheid, but our heroes never went in millions. They went in couple of hundreds and thousand. Now, these guys come here in millions and millions. There is an estimate of +/- 2 million Zimbabweans illegally living in SA.
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Rather than looking at these people as foreigners, have you perhaps tried looking at them as humans just like you?

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BaleliM

The sad part is, life indeed is karma. Zimbambwe was a thriving country, extremely developed in comparison to their neighbour Zambia. These guys treated their neighbour with so much hatred and made life hell when Zambians wents into Zimbabwe to buy food that was not available in their country.
Years down the line, Zambia has opened boarders for these guys and accomodated them and avail food for them.
Bottom line is, no matter how good you have it today, no one knows what tomorrow will bring and being kind to a person today will bring someone to be kind to you tomorrow.
Yes, foreigners in the country are high but to deal with the situation is to man the boarders properly and ensure that those that are in the country are well documented.
Hating is not taking us anywhere.
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Khulza

@ Comeback

You are either mentally deranged or simply naive. I suspect you are not even SAn but a Zimbo from Bulawayo. Your outlook on life is very simplistic and naive. Just because SAns idolise celebrity foreigners they have to be happy with foreigners crowding them out in their own country ? Just because some SAns employ Zim gardeners then we shouldn't complain about these ppl flooding our country ?

If you are semi-educated do you bother asking yourself what will be the demographic character of this country in 20 years if the flood gates are not closed ? The problem is that Africans from the whole of sub Saharan Africa are coming here and how can one country accomodate the whole continent really ? Instead of improving their own economies these people run away to SA and one wonders how their countries will imporove if they all want to live in SA ?

These talk about the majority of crimes being committed by SAns and not foreigners is a very stu*pid argument. Surely if you are in Nigeria you expect the majority, if not all, criminals in that country to be Nigerians. That is common sense. Why do people expect it to be different here ?

How many SAn criminals are langushing in Nigerian jails for example ?

Back to the KZN youths. Showing humanity to foreigners is a good thing. The only danger is that these people will misinterpret it as an invitation to come in in their millions.
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hulas

xolilanga

Not sure but xenophobic violence broke out Durban. In Gauteng I have seen it with my own eyes.Group of people most of them if not all speaking in zulu attacked and killed foreigners.Personally I was treated like an animal (isilwani) mind my spelling by the zulu speakers who happened to be my friends.
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Tikoloshe

......African politicians live in sublime luxury and leave theri problems to the average person in the streets!!!!

Thabo Mkeki created the Zimbabwian problem and he lives in luxury earning billions while 3 million foreigners live on our streets and build Mjondolo's.......it's ok if these people were skilled and added to the 5 million taxpayers who are already burdened by carrying the other 45 million net consumers of our tax revenue.

When the MDC won the last elections in Zimbabwe, Thabo Mbeki single handedly undermined the results!!!! Now we sit with the problem!!!

I say all illegal immigrants must be deported and all illegal settlements in urban areas destroyed. If I move to a city and can't find suitable accommodation, bad luck. I can't go to Harare and just make a Mjondolo!!!! I'll get sent back to Mzansi sharp sharp!!!! These Shona's won't give me land for mahala!!!

Hamba Khaya nina and sort out your own problems!!!!

We need to speak
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xolilanga

I hope you don't believe that the attacks are spurred by Zulus that would be an unfair way of looking at it. The attacks have happened in other provinces i.e. Limpopo, Free State, Mpumalanga, Cape Town and there are few zulus in those provinces. And I was made to feel the same way when I was in Limpopo, discriminated against cause I was Zulu. Overall tribalism/ xenophobia its just obtuse!
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Zimboy2

Xenophobic violence was exec*uted mostly by the ord*inary p*oor man on the street with the help of a couple of tsot*sis and the un-employed who for those sad and m*ad days found something entertaining to do and a scape-go*at for their worries and fai*lures in life... especially in poor areas with poor service delivery like A*lex, Hi*llbrow, and Die*psloot, R*eiger Park. The more learned ones like majority of my work colleagues, and neighbours - they were actually ash*amed by what their fellow SA-ns were doing (except for 1 or two foo*ls I work with who stopped talking to me those days). So it's not a matter of getting the anti-xeno*phobia message out there, but its of targeting the right areas and the right people.
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Zimboy2

Sowetan editor, please do something about your classified and censored words....give us a list or something so that we know. Because as it stands, half the Oxford dictionery, you have it under censorship. So much for media freedom and freedom of speech. Nxa!
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tyzer

even in our townships we have yards. the reason behind these yards is to maitain order. imgine a situation whereby your neighbour will just encroach in your yard, and sell drugs and displaying pornography cd's. will this be ok with you. i am an african.i love africa. we need a holistic approach in solving african problems. every african state should be a better place to live in. during apartheid era freedom fighters went to neighbouring countries with a mission. a mission to prepare for a good fight of freeing south africa from apartheid government. mission accomplished.
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BaleliM

Oh well, 4 foreign owned spazas have just been petrol bombed... so much for united africa.
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Mrazane

Tikoloshe ungu tikoloshe wange mpela!!!!!!!! A evil creation of evil aimed at destroying other people...most people who own tikoloshe hide them and I understand why... you need to be hidden in some far corner or the universe with all your hatred.
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manyobaa

Waisting your time, instead of improving your lifes, you are busy improving the lifes of mandelas friends who are here to take over your lifes, your wifes, your employement and even your country, idiots!
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Phuphethakatha

South Africans are not xenophobic, it's territorial battles for basic needs. Refugees are not in camps, they are everywhere to fend for themselves while the gov fails to deliver to it's citizens.
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Shonaboy

What hurts me is how most of you dont realise that we are related one way or the other. Most Xhosa people dont even realise that their language has a lot of similar shona words. I can see them thinking i am lying but its true. Do some investigation. Even shona and vhenda and Sotho as well. I feel sorry for my people who have to go to this country. Zimbabwe is now a better place and urge them all too come back. We got US dollars man. SA is nothing. Come get a piee of land and u will be a millionaire in noo time. Stop working for other people. Let this lot bring down their ownn country. its true SA people dont own anything in their country. They still have a fight to own land and a means of production. Saying that my wife is Xhosa and going to my in laws scares me already. You never know with this violent lot.
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Tikoloshe

tyzer

...We're not indebted to the rest of Africa because of the fight against Apartheid. In fact most of those who lived in African States and who are now our leaders are amassing huge amounts of wealth and are now our oppressors!!!!

We as a nation need to conform to ceraitn values and we need to be consistent on how we project ourselves to the African community and to the world....much like things were under Madiba. Here on our border we have a dictator who has been in power for 32 years, lost the last 3 elections, beats his opposition and subjects into submission while the rest flee to Mzansi in terror...and we say nothing. Yes our ANC regime says nothing but rather let's these people compete for our already limited resources and jobs!!!!

I spend a lot of time in Switzerland these days but I need a Shengen visa which I need to get personally from the Swiss Embassy in PTA. My UK business visa cost R4 500. No visa and you're on the next plane back to Mzansi. But no here in Mzansi people walk accross the border and build a mjondolo and we accept it!!! Already most of our youth are unemployed!!!

Mrazane

...rules and rules and for order to prevail we need to respect each other as Africans as well as the cultures and laws of all other States....some of our African brothers are taking advantage of our hospitality and the ineptitute of this ANC regime of ours!!!



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African2dcore

these youngsters from kzn are showing the 'big for nothing' motor mouth xenophobes on this site that whether you are zim, 9ja, ghanaian, swazi or whatever the artificial boundaries created by the colonisers wanted us africans to be known, we are all africans first and foremost. ngutha, i think you are one of those south africans who live in one of the shacks in alex and pride yourself as a south african citing the beautiful infrastructures in places like joburg and cape town. well let me tell you that those structures where put in place by the whites and if you want to judge your standard, look at where the millions of blacks are living in alex and other townships. you don't find such shacks in other african countries so wake up and join the rest of africans to fight our common problem-CORRUPTION. black govt in SA has only succeded in creating a black corrupt elite group in the country and this is where the problem is in africa.
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Shonaboy

White man borders. The success of divide and conquer and it still operates to this day.....shame. Some SA people are just not educated. Thats the thing. Blame apertheid but its never too late to go back to school guys.
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manyobaa

African2dcore
these youngsters from kzn are showing the 'big for nothing' motor mouth xenophobes on this site that whether you are zim, 9ja, ghanaian, swazi or whatever the artificial boundaries created by the colonisers wanted us africans to be known, we are all africans first and foremost. ngutha, i think you are one of those south africans who live in one of the shacks in alex and pride yourself as a south african citing the beautiful infrastructures in places like joburg and cape town. well let me tell you that those structures where put in place by the whites and if you want to judge your standard, look at where the millions of blacks are living in alex and other townships. you don't find such shacks in other african countries so wake up and join the rest of africans to fight our common problem-CORRUPTION. black govt in SA has only succeded in creating a black corrupt elite group in the country and this is where the problem is in africa.
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waite till your woman falls in the hands of one of them, you will be singing a different tune baba, o tlabe wa dirisa le dirokolo go nyewa
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