These were the leaders who had courage and were selfless because when they fought there were no tenders to benefit from and being a Cde was not a romance!!! I salute all of them jointly and severally for what they stood for and the sacrifice they made. One only wishes that indeed our society was more involved in understanding the obligations that comes with the rights that are enshrined in the constitution. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
WakeUpSouthAfrica
*yawn* more talk. If i had R1 for each time an ANC dude was speaking about the evils of corruption, Id be rich. Pity that talk is NEVER followed by action/ Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
CheeseBoy
I cannot wait for the day when all these "struggle stalwarts" find their way to heaven (or hell) if it does exist.
A lot of the entitlement and self enrichment is done by them due to the fact they 'freed us from the evil apartheid regime' so we owe them something.
We must worship them even if they turn against us. This attitude has been the death of Africa's progress as a people Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
MOTHUBANNYO
Oh yes, you definately fought to be RICH - please !!!!!!! Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then," Goldberg said.
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Unfortunately your comrades dont see it that way, as one of them said "I DID NOT JOIN POLITICS TO BE POOR"....................
I still say, Zuma was a mistake. The ANC has better Leaders and they all sit back and watching comics. It is sad to see such a Country go down to Zuma and Malema. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Mellow
We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then," Goldberg said.
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So what do you suggest we do with all the greedy bustards who fought to enrich themselves/friends and families, you say they must be sent packing right? How soon can that be? Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
tumzangwana
"We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then," Goldberg said.
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preach ntate Goldberg, preach!!!!!! hope those greedy mofos are listening.
@CheeseBoy
Say that again brother, we need a new breed of leaders without struggle credentials. Selfless leaders with integrity... Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
eisleben
Just like we did not fight to remain in abject poverty. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
mthosam
ignorancy is as evil as wi*chcraft. we are now a desperate nation and becoming dangerous to ourselves. our public demonstration is almost equals to civl war. in a sense we do not have heavy weaponry to fight police or any source of law and order entity. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
MommaC
I wouldn't call it 'ignorance' more like confusion. The ANC re-writes history on a daily basis.
Sadly, the more things change, the more they stay exactly the same. Still getting screwed by politicians and still watching the feeding frenzy Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Thanduxolo
"We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then," Goldberg said.
==========================================================================
Dear Mr Golgberg
Sorry to bother you at this time, probably you are swamped with many otherwise progressive engagements that are meant to build this beautifull land of ours.
On that note, I would like to remind you of what you have alluded to earlier on. I quote, 'We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then, End quote.
Sir, forgive my ignorance and lack of political consciousness (it's not done deliberately), but I am tempted to ask you this question: Do you consider yourself a poor white in this new South Africa you fought so hard for?
LNN: There you have it Mzantsi............no wonder people are so poor..............the ANC did not fight for them to be rich.............
No houses
No toilets
No water
No electricity
and most importantly, No education
without these basic needs, you mos def Not Rich Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Tsar-Rasputin
Ahmed Kathrada, which one of the former freedom fighters is poor? Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Thanduxolo
Dear Mr Goldberg
A mere mortal like me could not have succeeded to engage with a defacto intellectual like you on issues of national importance - I should have known.
It seems as if, my duty is to imbibe pseudo-intellectual teachings and falsehoods from above and accepting them as the gospel truth. Look at the language you are using Sir, 'We didn't fight for people to get rich'. It is forceful, uncompromising and smacks of a decree issued to the already downtrodden!
Your outdated doctrine with Marxist propensities has no place in the so-called new South Africa.
In case you don't know me - I am black, proud and want to be rich through no corrupt means. Get my grip!!
I have always maintain that the damage by apartheid in our society was creating a culture of area bound. This has created a society which only know what is happening around themselves only. South Africans are very ignorant. I know it may sound like an insult but it is true. Compare ourselves as South Africans and the rest of our brothers and sisters from other African countries, they are just far ahead of us. We are not even interested to know about our own history yet we are so curious about what is happening in US and Europe. In actual fact we even wants to be European or Americans. Example, I have noticed that most people from Soweto does not know Pretoria and vise-versa and also in other areas of our country. Our African brothers/sisters have travell our country more than us. We are just not curiosy about our own country. Wake South Africa, Please Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
TheNewFreedomFighter
We need a new breed of leadership that throws the "struggle ideology" out the door and embraces pragmatic policies that allow businesses to flourish and so create jobs and wealth for all. Social engineering policies such as apartheid, RDP (and all its versions), BEE, AA and now the second stage of the liberation struggle (or whatever) are all doomed to failure because you cannot socially engineer free-thinking individuals no matter how hard you try. Ask the communists - they tried desperately for 80 decades and still failed miserably. Every time they think they have just the right policy some free-thinking wo/man finds a way around it and when enough people catch on, before they know it, their policy is worthless. This is why the ANC has to keep becoming more draconian in their policies and laws, untill the next "revolution" deposes them all - hopefully at the ballot box. The ANC has yet to mature and learn that when it comes to governance, less is more and social engineering is just a pointless exercise that accomplishes very little by way of deep-seated change in society. Report Abuse
Jul 16, 2012
TheNewFreedomFighter
Sorry, that shoul read ''they tried desperately for 8 decades...' Report Abuse
Jul 23, 2012
phalaphala
ANC member are rich and if you are not an ANC member you are nothing go ANC Member guys just an ANC card you are rich Report Abuse
Aug 1, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
Ofcourse most of people they have lost morals in politics and greediness has twisted their judgements. The only solution to this is to change the governing party because they are so deluded that carrying the ANC card means carrying a credit card for self enrichment. They dont take a dawm about the suffering nation.They have descended to the level of northern african states who beleive being in power entitles them to all their dreams than work, hence we have multitudes of african immigrants loitering our streets , yet all african states are free. The last standing question is, who is their oppressor and if we managed to fight for freedom against imperialists, why cannt we stay in our homelands and fight the wars to kick off our own greedy dictators. People should bear in mind that wars for freedom wasnt directed to colours of the oppressors but , most importantly it was directed to the stoney headed oppressors similar to some of our own colours that need bining to set people free.
All political rhetorics are irrational.
We all have to develop the working ethics for our own survivals than joining politics to steal from the nation. This new trend has became the african ailment that needs aggressive eradication. Report Abuse
Aug 8, 2012
sgebengukazi
Get out of here ANC thugs , lie , lie again . Sell outs . Report Abuse
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MGEEZ
These were the leaders who had courage and were selfless because when they fought there were no tenders to benefit from and being a Cde was not a romance!!! I salute all of them jointly and severally for what they stood for and the sacrifice they made. One only wishes that indeed our society was more involved in understanding the obligations that comes with the rights that are enshrined in the constitution.Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
*yawn* more talk. If i had R1 for each time an ANC dude was speaking about the evils of corruption, Id be rich. Pity that talk is NEVER followed by action/Report Abuse
CheeseBoy
I cannot wait for the day when all these "struggle stalwarts" find their way to heaven (or hell) if it does exist.A lot of the entitlement and self enrichment is done by them due to the fact they 'freed us from the evil apartheid regime' so we owe them something.
We must worship them even if they turn against us. This attitude has been the death of Africa's progress as a people
Report Abuse
MOTHUBANNYO
Oh yes, you definately fought to be RICH - please !!!!!!!Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then," Goldberg said.**********************************************************************************************************
Unfortunately your comrades dont see it that way, as one of them said "I DID NOT JOIN POLITICS TO BE POOR"....................
Report Abuse
Papage
I still say, Zuma was a mistake. The ANC has better Leaders and they all sit back and watching comics. It is sad to see such a Country go down to Zuma and Malema.Report Abuse
Mellow
We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then," Goldberg said......................................................................................................
So what do you suggest we do with all the greedy bustards who fought to enrich themselves/friends and families, you say they must be sent packing right? How soon can that be?
Report Abuse
tumzangwana
"We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then," Goldberg said.;;;;;;;;;;;
preach ntate Goldberg, preach!!!!!! hope those greedy mofos are listening.
Report Abuse
Shredder
"We didn't fight for people to get rich."Actually we did; we did not fight to remain poor. If the statement was "We did not fight to get rich THROUGH CORRUPTION" I'd agree.
Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
@CheeseBoySay that again brother, we need a new breed of leaders without struggle credentials. Selfless leaders with integrity...
Report Abuse
eisleben
Just like we did not fight to remain in abject poverty.Report Abuse
mthosam
ignorancy is as evil as wi*chcraft. we are now a desperate nation and becoming dangerous to ourselves. our public demonstration is almost equals to civl war. in a sense we do not have heavy weaponry to fight police or any source of law and order entity.Report Abuse
MommaC
I wouldn't call it 'ignorance' more like confusion. The ANC re-writes history on a daily basis.Sadly, the more things change, the more they stay exactly the same. Still getting screwed by politicians and still watching the feeding frenzy
Report Abuse
Thanduxolo
"We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then," Goldberg said.==========================================================================
Dear Mr Golgberg
Sorry to bother you at this time, probably you are swamped with many otherwise progressive engagements that are meant to build this beautifull land of ours.
On that note, I would like to remind you of what you have alluded to earlier on. I quote, 'We didn't fight for people to get rich. I am putting into words what we all talked about then, End quote.
Sir, forgive my ignorance and lack of political consciousness (it's not done deliberately), but I am tempted to ask you this question: Do you consider yourself a poor white in this new South Africa you fought so hard for?
Yours in the struggle
Thanduxolo
Report Abuse
Liti
LNN: There you have it Mzantsi............no wonder people are so poor..............the ANC did not fight for them to be rich.............No houses
No toilets
No water
No electricity
and most importantly, No education
without these basic needs, you mos def Not Rich
Report Abuse
Tsar-Rasputin
Ahmed Kathrada, which one of the former freedom fighters is poor?Report Abuse
Thanduxolo
Dear Mr Goldberg
A mere mortal like me could not have succeeded to engage with a defacto intellectual like you on issues of national importance - I should have known.
It seems as if, my duty is to imbibe pseudo-intellectual teachings and falsehoods from above and accepting them as the gospel truth. Look at the language you are using Sir, 'We didn't fight for people to get rich'. It is forceful, uncompromising and smacks of a decree issued to the already downtrodden!
Your outdated doctrine with Marxist propensities has no place in the so-called new South Africa.
In case you don't know me - I am black, proud and want to be rich through no corrupt means. Get my grip!!
Thanduxolo
Report Abuse
Mbongo
I have always maintain that the damage by apartheid in our society was creating a culture of area bound. This has created a society which only know what is happening around themselves only. South Africans are very ignorant. I know it may sound like an insult but it is true. Compare ourselves as South Africans and the rest of our brothers and sisters from other African countries, they are just far ahead of us. We are not even interested to know about our own history yet we are so curious about what is happening in US and Europe. In actual fact we even wants to be European or Americans. Example, I have noticed that most people from Soweto does not know Pretoria and vise-versa and also in other areas of our country. Our African brothers/sisters have travell our country more than us. We are just not curiosy about our own country. Wake South Africa, PleaseReport Abuse
TheNewFreedomFighter
We need a new breed of leadership that throws the "struggle ideology" out the door and embraces pragmatic policies that allow businesses to flourish and so create jobs and wealth for all. Social engineering policies such as apartheid, RDP (and all its versions), BEE, AA and now the second stage of the liberation struggle (or whatever) are all doomed to failure because you cannot socially engineer free-thinking individuals no matter how hard you try. Ask the communists - they tried desperately for 80 decades and still failed miserably. Every time they think they have just the right policy some free-thinking wo/man finds a way around it and when enough people catch on, before they know it, their policy is worthless. This is why the ANC has to keep becoming more draconian in their policies and laws, untill the next "revolution" deposes them all - hopefully at the ballot box. The ANC has yet to mature and learn that when it comes to governance, less is more and social engineering is just a pointless exercise that accomplishes very little by way of deep-seated change in society.Report Abuse
TheNewFreedomFighter
Sorry, that shoul read ''they tried desperately for 8 decades...'Report Abuse
phalaphala
ANC member are rich and if you are not an ANC member you are nothing go ANC Member guys just an ANC card you are richReport Abuse
sgubhusenkwishi
Ofcourse most of people they have lost morals in politics and greediness has twisted their judgements. The only solution to this is to change the governing party because they are so deluded that carrying the ANC card means carrying a credit card for self enrichment. They dont take a dawm about the suffering nation.They have descended to the level of northern african states who beleive being in power entitles them to all their dreams than work, hence we have multitudes of african immigrants loitering our streets , yet all african states are free. The last standing question is, who is their oppressor and if we managed to fight for freedom against imperialists, why cannt we stay in our homelands and fight the wars to kick off our own greedy dictators. People should bear in mind that wars for freedom wasnt directed to colours of the oppressors but , most importantly it was directed to the stoney headed oppressors similar to some of our own colours that need bining to set people free.All political rhetorics are irrational.
We all have to develop the working ethics for our own survivals than joining politics to steal from the nation. This new trend has became the african ailment that needs aggressive eradication.
Report Abuse
sgebengukazi
Get out of here ANC thugs , lie , lie again . Sell outs .Report Abuse
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