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No room at Bara for burn patient

Jul 12, 2012 | Mogomotsi Selebi | 19 comments

CHRIS Hani Baragwanath Academic Hospital management will investigate why emergency services took a critical patient to the hospital when there was no space to accommodate him.

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Jul 12, 2012

Memme

Im not suprised at all.
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Jul 12, 2012

MaRantsane

Morning Memme
Very sad indeed i listened to Jozi FM shame maan it was not nice when the Brother told the media how his brother died
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Jul 12, 2012

Mellow

Excuses excuses excuses fact is this is how public hospitals works its not suprising at all so they claim he was already knocking on teh heavens door well sadly thats just not enough
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Jul 12, 2012

MommaC

"We had 20 patients that day, and the most we can take is 16."

Are they shitting us? The hospital is supposed to cater for the whole area and they only have space for 16 people in the trauma wing? WTF!. Thank the gods we aren't on a fault line or subject to other natural disasters or our country would be completely screwed
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Jul 12, 2012

MaRantsane

sowetan:( my comments or maybe ha le batle ke jwetse batho go e tsahetseng please sowetan
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Jul 12, 2012

MaRantsane

please sowetan people need to know whats happening give me access mos there is no vulgur there im trying to tell those youve missed the show on Jozi
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Jul 12, 2012

BaleliM

This is just so pathetic. A hospital is supposed to look at a patient even though there is no space, stabilize and then send off to another hospital. So which hospital in the area did they expect the emmergency services to take this patient?
The complainant is not lying, i have first hand experience on how heartless those nurses are.
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Jul 12, 2012

MaRantsane

please thusang sowetan ha e mpatle
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Jul 12, 2012

CAKE1

Akere they are busy giving tenders to their friends instead of giving it to qualified committed citizens.
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Jul 12, 2012

Papage

"Even then, added Plani, it was clear that Tenehi had no chance of surviving. "In such cases where patients do not stand any chance of surviving, we put nasal tubes into them so that they do not choke when regurgitating. The aim is to make death less painful."

I am sick and tired of people who think they can predict ones live, if this woman says Tenehi had no chance of surviving, how did she knew that? It is bad how our own people who are surpose to nurse and doctor us are just useless. Some people are not called to do public work, but are doing it for the money. I cant beging to emagine that Soweto as big as it is, Their biggest hospital has only 16 beds for burnt victims, it is a disgrase, they must check their heads, where is the Premier, Nomvula vula vala talk to your people, we are getting sick and tired of them. I am not surprised petiants attack doctors and nurses at hospital
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Jul 12, 2012

imd

"Our trauma unit was on diversion, which means that it was full. We had 20 patients that day, and the most we can take is 16."
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WTF catering for the whole of SOWETO?????? IJO!!!!!
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Jul 12, 2012

dimpho_4U

Baragwanath's CEO Johanna More said: "Our doctors did their best under the situation.
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I doubt...mashaya
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Jul 12, 2012

EMJay_001

@MommaC and Papagae,
I hold no brief for the CEO and management oat Bara. But, we have to consider things in context.

The main gripe of the family is that the patient was put in a normal ward and not ICU. We have to recognise the enormous responsibility placed on health care workers to make life and death decisionss in the face of finite resources. Like in any system, there are certain stratergies, for example, triage, that are employed. Tenehi's prognosis was bad (100% burns). Now, do you let this patient occupy an ICU bed that could have been offered to another patient with a better prognosis? These are very hard decisions to make and someone has to make them! Incidentally, the girlfriend got a bed in ICU!

And, yes, it would have been nice to have had a larger capacity at the trauma unit; nice to have had some communication system between the emergence services and the hospital, etc. but these things do not exist. Also, I doubt if they would have prevented Tenehi's demise...
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Jul 12, 2012

khekhe

it is easy to talk when you are not working in the hospital. Things a bad a doctor can work 18hrs without rest. we are all human then you cannot expect people who are overworked underpaid with shortage of equipments to deliver. Things are not easy for us health workers and people blame others without doing any research.
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Jul 12, 2012

Knan

State Hospitals are a complete mess with poor service. Why make death less painful? Who is regarded as the best, that doctors see it possible to fight for his life. Why didnt he qualify to be treated that way


RIP brother, i wish some1 sue the hospital for that
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Jul 12, 2012

imd

@Khekhe
no offence its the system that is messed up, budget is allocated to accomodate every resource needed for a hosital to fully operate...but what happens to it????
And then the attitude of most health workers DOES NO GOOD at all..........pity
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Jul 12, 2012

MommaC

EMJay_001

I am not blaming the doctors and nurses, I am blaming the DoH for not having a better system in place. What happens if there is a massive explosion (knock on wood) in Soweto and there are 100 people needing emergency treatment? The very idea that there could only be 16 people at a time being helped is just mind blowing. Even if there is communication between the emergency services and the hospital, the time lost by taking them across the city to another hospital will halve the patient's chances.

Doc Aaron has some MAJOR work to do before his NHI idea can even be considered
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Jul 12, 2012

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

How ironic that during apartheid Baragwanath Hospital was "THEE" hospital in Africa. Most Dr, Specialists (if not all) wanted to work (some for their locums) there irrespective of race but now no one wants to "touch it with a 10ft pole".

One has to wonder whether the name change had an impact on service delivery, staff morale........... As after that it was a downward spiral............... whether money meant for good causes was spent on the name plagues, celebrations, new stationery, etc
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Jul 12, 2012

Papage

That is why I said previously, some potfolio needs more than one Minister, just look at Dr Motswaledi, the guy is burnt out, he can't take it anymore, he needs support systems, Health Department is in tartas. The Police Mr Mthetwa, is he right for the job? I have know idea, the man seem good at pointing fingers and not getting himself dirty. We have dead woods in Government, they are just happy to get pay come month end.
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