Jul 12, 2012 | Frank Maponya Limpopo Bureau Chief |
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A LIMPOPO man has died, apparently from inhaling pepper spray inside the venue where President Jacob Zuma presented the Nelson Mandela Memorial Lecture on Tuesday night.
If this is how democracy in SA is going to be conducted, then we are in trouble. Robust debate, my foot. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
maneater
WELL I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT EVRYBODY ELSE BUT AS FOR ME I AM NOT ATTANDING ANY RALLIES, LECTURES OR ANY OTHER POLITICAL GATHERINGS. I HAVE A FEELING THINGS ARE ABOUT TO GET WORSE I TELL YOU!!! Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Manndudu
U C PRESIDENT, WHAT U R CAUSING, Eh, Eh, Eh,,,What an incident, may his soul rest in peace,,,,,,please please people, check your health condition first b4 you join any public imbizo,,, i mean no offence, he might have been a member of a party but he did not die in the struggle, who will remember him including the president. Infact de Prsdnt must be questioned by police for suspicion of causing death of the citizens by organizing such gathering. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Memme
Joo nna wee.. Things are getting worse and worse now.
May his soul rest in Peace shame. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Mellow
ANCYL SLOGAN #ZUMA IS TROUBLING US
ANC SLOGAN #MALEMA IS $HIT
Sad ppl have to die for zuma and malema when are they gonna learn that this 2 idiots arent worth it oohh grandpa you suffered asthma really you could've stayed home not sure why you didnt forsee this.
May his soul RIP, zuma nad malema shame on you for k.illing this man Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
januswanus
Limpopo Province the home of the honorable Warmonger Premier Juluis Mr.Hypertension Malema. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
MGEEZ
The President should be charged for this murder; he knew that he not welcomed in Limpopo and yet he still decided to force matters and look at the results!!! Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Pointman
Does not bode well for our future. Next we will be fearful to speak out on even minor issues or criticise bad leadership or behaviour just like in Zim and Idi Amins Uganda. I was testing my pepper spray pen one day and the wind blew just the tiniest bit into my nose - it was not good I tell you. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
golly459
This is Zuma and Malema's Fault. I know money cannot bring back life but ANC must pay for this. What is Democracy anyway, because you can’t say how you fell about this leadership otherwise hey!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
hiddengold
my condolences to the family affected let the police investigate who brought pepper spray to the venue and that person must be punished Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
hulas
Madala le yena one a fosta at 68 still holding a lousy position of bec.At that age the person supposed to be at parliament sleeping. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
tumzangwana
zuma is turning into mugabe straight. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
GigiMavalani
One of those allegedly affected by the smoke was Alpheus Moseri, 68, from Matatadibeng village near Denilton in Moutse West who died yesterday.
At 68 why follow this useless bunch of croocks who dont have the interest of the People of SA at heart but only selfish, corrupt and fraudster. You were suppose to be at home enjoying your pension. May your soul rest in peace Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
lebloza
May his soul rest in peace, the condolence the family.
So sad that people are too quick to react. Am sure, there was a better way in which police would have resolved the situation. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
sirmty
Im no Zuma supporter but i dont blame him, i blame Juju supporters who came to a Mandela lecture with only disruption on their minds, i mean 4 F*cks sake if you have a problem with the current leadership mangaung is around the corner....DA must be enjoying this Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Gampopompolaye
Wena Zuma you are next,pity you will rot in jail.Malema and Zuma are two rotten potatoes! Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Yeah, you are left to choose between Malema and Zuma.
Pity both of those options are k@k. Report Abuse
@ Sowetan, ek wil net weet, dat is n ANC man gestreef of Limpopo man gestreef. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
nono85y8
I dont get this Zuma went to Venda to deliver a lecturer Mandela Memorial, so why were the Limpopo Youth League disrupted this because everything in the ANC organisation was long planned for this centenaries, the visit was not about Zuma but about the Centenary celebrations of the organisation, fail to understand this. May the old man soul Rest in Peace. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
truthhurt
MGEEZ
The President should be charged for this murder; he knew that he not welcomed in Limpopo and yet he still decided to force matters and look at the results!!!
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I agree! Report Abuse
Under zuma, we are more like in the old days... He leadership reminds me of the Iron Fist of P.W Botha, where one was subjected to brutality and torture.... President Malema was right, when he talked about Dark forces in our movement. Mayibuye i ANC yethu!!!! Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
WakeUpSouthAfrica
1tsotsi - Julius talking about dark forces? Both Zuma and Malema are the poorest of the poorest choices for leadership positions in South Africa. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
1tsotsi
WakeUpSouthAfrica
1tsotsi - Julius talking about dark forces? Both Zuma and Malema are the poorest of the poorest choices for leadership positions in South Africa.
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Zuma and the apartheid leaders, were and are the worse of the worse 2nd to George W. Bush and Idi Amini...... You cant put President Malema, Botha, zuma in one sentence.... Thats crim3 Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
januswanus
White the youth who still follow Malema are fools. Malema can't even debate his politics he is just a super willow mouth. Wake up guys kgalema already told you to not campaign in his name. Even if he may win thus that promise Warmonger Premier Juluis Mr.Hypertension.Malema a return? they will beat with double used condoms he thinks he is bigger than ordinary s.a. Citizen. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
mrc22
That is why I m not interested in polotics. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Ndjombi
And the only statement issued by the sitting president and his secreatary is on Mandela's cousin. This current leadership is full of hatred and dictatorship Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
WakeUpSouthAfrica
1tsotsi - LOL, no use in arguing with a Malema-lover. Hes too ignorant to understand. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Papage
A branch executive member at 68 years old? stop abusing pensioners, let them enjoy their pension without politics. ANC must take the blame. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Yoghurt
ANC has not gone to the dogs, and the dogs have not left the party Angie. Why bussing old people to events. I thought the lecture was meant for for local people. The ANC killed the old man and they must bury him. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
nkomazi
ZUMA AND MALEMA must go they brought our party to l0west 0% Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
1tsotsi
WakeUpSouthAfrica
1tsotsi - LOL, no use in arguing with a Malema-lover. Hes too ignorant to understand.
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LOL, No use in arguing with a Malema-hater.. Hes too bitter to understand.. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Retlaw
Malema had enuf of Zuma's Spear and innocent citizens r da ones being wrongly punished, shame on you 2 . condolences 2 da family Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
somaartakeit
So a bussed in zuma supporter died for him literally. how many bodies of evidence in this week alone? there was Mkhize, and then Induna, now this? but then what can who are we to say anything cause the zuma supporters vowed to die for him. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Secretary
@golly459
This is Zuma's fault. How can you pepper spray a singing cadre without a weapon? How can you arm so heavy with all deferent sort of guards while you go there to talk about peace and discipline? How do you say people should be ruly while you are surrounded by soldiers? Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
somaartakeit
@Yoghurt I think its disrespectful to the dogs to say the anc is gone to the dogs, cause surely even dogs have standards and values, what does anyone think the dogs will do with the shambles the anc has become? pliz guys give dogs a break!
Hey anc supporters (read vote fodders) next time your leaders decide to bus you to a rally please make sure your life policy (insurance)/burial society is not in arrears neh?
What has the presidential response been to this tragedy, given that they bussed this man to the rally only to pepper spray him to death? Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
MobBim
RIP Big Soldier.... I want to know Zuma will also attend His Funeral Report Abuse
Condolences to the family but this thing of tackling ill discipline in this manner leaves much to be desired. I mean I has happened on a number of occasions and ANC is mum.I think JZ should have not gone to Limpopo like he did in Eastern Cape. We getting impatient and Mangaung should help the soul of the ANC. Dumela Kgalema. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
kiii
our leaders have turned to be beneficiaries of porverty, this is the same way DA used poor people for their match to cosatu building and got them wounded. with this new trend ,poor people are on their own because the poorer you are the better for our politicians who would bus you to venues to get numbers. I blame poverty, the old man should not have been exposed to death if he had won one tender in his life time. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Lehido
This is not about the ANC and the ANCYL, it is about Zuma and Malema....this two m0r0ns have caused us a lot, not it's someone's life,,,,,,
I think it's they hold each other by hand and f00sek together Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
somaartakeit
@Lehido you can't just blame someone else for how your life turns out, in this case dead, this man was an adult, that alone shld tell us he anticipated pros and cons of going to such a rally, as such should have taken precautionary measures, really you don't just jump into thinks head first, everyone knows that anc rallies are almost always marred with violence, so why did anyone think this wld be any different to their 'norm'
Personally I think its foolish to die for a politician, but that's my opinion, now this man's grand/children and wife will never be able to hold his hand again, Africans never learn always the same shyte different countries, dying for a politician one must have not have valued their lives in the first place. Report Abuse
The death of the honourable member those unruly ANC Youth League members must arrested and take responsibility , this was just a lecture not a politicing gathering , what were they doing there , I know if Bheki Cele was still in charge , someone should have been arrested by now all those unruly ANC Youth League members
Please Zuma bring back Bheki Cele to stop this carnage Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
Shaangrito
When elephants fight is the grass that suffers, we are yet to hear and see more of this even before mangaung. This should be a lessorn to the weak and those of you with health conditions. You have to be very physically fit to attend ANC gatherings this days. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
tlhakorationz
The two niccumpoops are not worth fighting for,in any case when did democracy mean thinking that individuals hold the monopoly of thought or progress? the ANC has never had a poverty of leadership.
i say LET the most disciplined lead!!!!!!!!!!!!
My heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family..the deseased became a victim of an allience of power mongers gone sower. Report Abuse
Jul 12, 2012
tlhakorationz
DO THE SO CALLED MK SOLDIERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAT PEOPLE..SOMEBODY PLEASE CLARIFY ME. Report Abuse
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RobinH
If this is how democracy in SA is going to be conducted, then we are in trouble. Robust debate, my foot.Report Abuse
maneater
WELL I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT EVRYBODY ELSE BUT AS FOR ME I AM NOT ATTANDING ANY RALLIES, LECTURES OR ANY OTHER POLITICAL GATHERINGS. I HAVE A FEELING THINGS ARE ABOUT TO GET WORSE I TELL YOU!!!Report Abuse
Manndudu
U C PRESIDENT, WHAT U R CAUSING, Eh, Eh, Eh,,,What an incident, may his soul rest in peace,,,,,,please please people, check your health condition first b4 you join any public imbizo,,, i mean no offence, he might have been a member of a party but he did not die in the struggle, who will remember him including the president. Infact de Prsdnt must be questioned by police for suspicion of causing death of the citizens by organizing such gathering.Report Abuse
Memme
Joo nna wee.. Things are getting worse and worse now.May his soul rest in Peace shame.
Report Abuse
Mellow
ANCYL SLOGAN #ZUMA IS TROUBLING USANC SLOGAN #MALEMA IS $HIT
Sad ppl have to die for zuma and malema when are they gonna learn that this 2 idiots arent worth it oohh grandpa you suffered asthma really you could've stayed home not sure why you didnt forsee this.
May his soul RIP, zuma nad malema shame on you for k.illing this man
Report Abuse
januswanus
Limpopo Province the home of the honorable Warmonger Premier Juluis Mr.Hypertension Malema.Report Abuse
MGEEZ
The President should be charged for this murder; he knew that he not welcomed in Limpopo and yet he still decided to force matters and look at the results!!!Report Abuse
Pointman
Does not bode well for our future. Next we will be fearful to speak out on even minor issues or criticise bad leadership or behaviour just like in Zim and Idi Amins Uganda. I was testing my pepper spray pen one day and the wind blew just the tiniest bit into my nose - it was not good I tell you.Report Abuse
golly459
This is Zuma and Malema's Fault. I know money cannot bring back life but ANC must pay for this. What is Democracy anyway, because you can’t say how you fell about this leadership otherwise hey!!!!!!!Report Abuse
hiddengold
my condolences to the family affected let the police investigate who brought pepper spray to the venue and that person must be punishedReport Abuse
hulas
Madala le yena one a fosta at 68 still holding a lousy position of bec.At that age the person supposed to be at parliament sleeping.Report Abuse
tumzangwana
zuma is turning into mugabe straight.Report Abuse
GigiMavalani
One of those allegedly affected by the smoke was Alpheus Moseri, 68, from Matatadibeng village near Denilton in Moutse West who died yesterday.At 68 why follow this useless bunch of croocks who dont have the interest of the People of SA at heart but only selfish, corrupt and fraudster. You were suppose to be at home enjoying your pension. May your soul rest in peace
Report Abuse
lebloza
May his soul rest in peace, the condolence the family.Postmortem will assist.
Report Abuse
xhosagirl
What was he doing there dying for Juju while Juju was drinking wisky in his expensive couches watching it on his big plasma.Report Abuse
nkomazi
bafana va limpopo va delela: Zuma smoking teargas
charge Zuma with a murder
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BaleliM
So sad that people are too quick to react. Am sure, there was a better way in which police would have resolved the situation.Report Abuse
sirmty
Im no Zuma supporter but i dont blame him, i blame Juju supporters who came to a Mandela lecture with only disruption on their minds, i mean 4 F*cks sake if you have a problem with the current leadership mangaung is around the corner....DA must be enjoying thisReport Abuse
Gampopompolaye
Wena Zuma you are next,pity you will rot in jail.Malema and Zuma are two rotten potatoes!Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
Yeah, you are left to choose between Malema and Zuma.Pity both of those options are k@k.
Report Abuse
CAKE1
RIP - The family must sue ANCReport Abuse
Papgat
@ Sowetan, ek wil net weet, dat is n ANC man gestreef of Limpopo man gestreef.Report Abuse
nono85y8
I dont get this Zuma went to Venda to deliver a lecturer Mandela Memorial, so why were the Limpopo Youth League disrupted this because everything in the ANC organisation was long planned for this centenaries, the visit was not about Zuma but about the Centenary celebrations of the organisation, fail to understand this. May the old man soul Rest in Peace.Report Abuse
truthhurt
MGEEZThe President should be charged for this murder; he knew that he not welcomed in Limpopo and yet he still decided to force matters and look at the results!!!
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I agree!
Report Abuse
Pijiza
Ne a ya kae?anyway RIP
Report Abuse
1tsotsi
Under zuma, we are more like in the old days... He leadership reminds me of the Iron Fist of P.W Botha, where one was subjected to brutality and torture.... President Malema was right, when he talked about Dark forces in our movement. Mayibuye i ANC yethu!!!!Report Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
1tsotsi - Julius talking about dark forces? Both Zuma and Malema are the poorest of the poorest choices for leadership positions in South Africa.Report Abuse
1tsotsi
WakeUpSouthAfrica1tsotsi - Julius talking about dark forces? Both Zuma and Malema are the poorest of the poorest choices for leadership positions in South Africa.
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Zuma and the apartheid leaders, were and are the worse of the worse 2nd to George W. Bush and Idi Amini...... You cant put President Malema, Botha, zuma in one sentence.... Thats crim3
Report Abuse
januswanus
White the youth who still follow Malema are fools. Malema can't even debate his politics he is just a super willow mouth. Wake up guys kgalema already told you to not campaign in his name. Even if he may win thus that promise Warmonger Premier Juluis Mr.Hypertension.Malema a return? they will beat with double used condoms he thinks he is bigger than ordinary s.a. Citizen.Report Abuse
mrc22
That is why I m not interested in polotics.Report Abuse
Ndjombi
And the only statement issued by the sitting president and his secreatary is on Mandela's cousin. This current leadership is full of hatred and dictatorshipReport Abuse
WakeUpSouthAfrica
1tsotsi - LOL, no use in arguing with a Malema-lover. Hes too ignorant to understand.Report Abuse
Papage
A branch executive member at 68 years old? stop abusing pensioners, let them enjoy their pension without politics. ANC must take the blame.Report Abuse
Yoghurt
ANC has not gone to the dogs, and the dogs have not left the party Angie. Why bussing old people to events. I thought the lecture was meant for for local people. The ANC killed the old man and they must bury him.Report Abuse
nkomazi
ZUMA AND MALEMA must go they brought our party to l0west 0%Report Abuse
1tsotsi
WakeUpSouthAfrica1tsotsi - LOL, no use in arguing with a Malema-lover. Hes too ignorant to understand.
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LOL, No use in arguing with a Malema-hater.. Hes too bitter to understand..
Report Abuse
Retlaw
Malema had enuf of Zuma's Spear and innocent citizens r da ones being wrongly punished, shame on you 2 . condolences 2 da familyReport Abuse
somaartakeit
So a bussed in zuma supporter died for him literally. how many bodies of evidence in this week alone? there was Mkhize, and then Induna, now this? but then what can who are we to say anything cause the zuma supporters vowed to die for him.Report Abuse
Secretary
@golly459This is Zuma's fault. How can you pepper spray a singing cadre without a weapon? How can you arm so heavy with all deferent sort of guards while you go there to talk about peace and discipline? How do you say people should be ruly while you are surrounded by soldiers?
Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Yoghurt I think its disrespectful to the dogs to say the anc is gone to the dogs, cause surely even dogs have standards and values, what does anyone think the dogs will do with the shambles the anc has become? pliz guys give dogs a break!Hey anc supporters (read vote fodders) next time your leaders decide to bus you to a rally please make sure your life policy (insurance)/burial society is not in arrears neh?
What has the presidential response been to this tragedy, given that they bussed this man to the rally only to pepper spray him to death?
Report Abuse
MobBim
RIP Big Soldier.... I want to know Zuma will also attend His FuneralReport Abuse
Secretary
ANC man dies after pepper sprayed by ZumaReport Abuse
DimaaneZB
Condolences to the family but this thing of tackling ill discipline in this manner leaves much to be desired. I mean I has happened on a number of occasions and ANC is mum.I think JZ should have not gone to Limpopo like he did in Eastern Cape. We getting impatient and Mangaung should help the soul of the ANC. Dumela Kgalema.Report Abuse
kiii
our leaders have turned to be beneficiaries of porverty, this is the same way DA used poor people for their match to cosatu building and got them wounded. with this new trend ,poor people are on their own because the poorer you are the better for our politicians who would bus you to venues to get numbers. I blame poverty, the old man should not have been exposed to death if he had won one tender in his life time.Report Abuse
Lehido
This is not about the ANC and the ANCYL, it is about Zuma and Malema....this two m0r0ns have caused us a lot, not it's someone's life,,,,,,I think it's they hold each other by hand and f00sek together
Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Lehido you can't just blame someone else for how your life turns out, in this case dead, this man was an adult, that alone shld tell us he anticipated pros and cons of going to such a rally, as such should have taken precautionary measures, really you don't just jump into thinks head first, everyone knows that anc rallies are almost always marred with violence, so why did anyone think this wld be any different to their 'norm'Personally I think its foolish to die for a politician, but that's my opinion, now this man's grand/children and wife will never be able to hold his hand again, Africans never learn always the same shyte different countries, dying for a politician one must have not have valued their lives in the first place.
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CharlesTaylor
Come Zimpopo!!!!!!!Report Abuse
Flemza
The death of the honourable member those unruly ANC Youth League members must arrested and take responsibility , this was just a lecture not a politicing gathering , what were they doing there , I know if Bheki Cele was still in charge , someone should have been arrested by now all those unruly ANC Youth League membersPlease Zuma bring back Bheki Cele to stop this carnage
Report Abuse
Shaangrito
When elephants fight is the grass that suffers, we are yet to hear and see more of this even before mangaung. This should be a lessorn to the weak and those of you with health conditions. You have to be very physically fit to attend ANC gatherings this days.Report Abuse
tlhakorationz
The two niccumpoops are not worth fighting for,in any case when did democracy mean thinking that individuals hold the monopoly of thought or progress? the ANC has never had a poverty of leadership.i say LET the most disciplined lead!!!!!!!!!!!!
My heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family..the deseased became a victim of an allience of power mongers gone sower.
Report Abuse
tlhakorationz
DO THE SO CALLED MK SOLDIERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAT PEOPLE..SOMEBODY PLEASE CLARIFY ME.Report Abuse
TAGZEN
SORRYReport Abuse
NNETEKEYONA
All these in order to protect Zuma!!!Report Abuse
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