The road between Nelspruit and KaNyamazane township in Mpumalanga, on which three serious accidents occurred just this past weekend, is fast gaining notoriety.
Sorry your prayer won't help, that road is probably poorly designed, change the road (add speed humps, separate lanes, etc)... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
gee18
My friend also lost his life on this road year before last. We really need to pray for our South African roads. The devil is recruiting as much people as it can. Let's turn to God. Akahlulwa lutho. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
sodoma
my friend and my neighbour lost their life in that devil road eish is sad Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mellow
"We need to remove this evil curse with prayers."
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OMW they neglect to teach ppl about safety driving and they blame it on evil curse honestly SA'ns #SMH ppl are too negligent, lacks courtesy and are always trying to multitask while driving there's no curse here just bad driving Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Secretary
There are number of facts that need to be taken in to consideration before just going there and make a prayer. Do the local people understand traffic lights or do the lights function properly? If those cases could be checked properly and nothing solid was found, the other issue can be the cleansing of the streets traditionally after the first loss of life. If they cannot cleanse the street even when they can call biggest pastors and Nigerians the spot will remain deadly. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mellow
iVolontiya
Sorry your prayer won't help, that road is probably poorly designed, change the road (add speed humps, separate lanes, etc)...
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True probably the roads are just a mess as well Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
MommaC
Sorry dude. I don't think god does taxis. Besides, she is too busy with the sorting of the souls you keep sending her
Why not do something practical like getting the useless cops to do their job ? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Ann
a e khongeleni
Tata wa hina la nge tilweni,
vito ra wena a ri hlawuriwe;
a ku te ku fuma ka wena;
ku rhandza ka wena a ku endliwe
misaveni, tanihi loko ku endliwa tilweni
u hi nyika namuntlha vuswa bya hina
bya siku rin'wana ni rin'wana;
u hi rivalela swidyoho swa hina,
tanihi loko na hina hi rivalela lava
hi dyohelaka; u nga hi yisi emiringweni
kambe u hi ponisa eka Lowo biha,
[hikuva ku fuma, ni matimba, no ku twala i swa wena
hi masiku ni masiku. Amen] Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
If the prayer was working we would n't have had thousands of people been killed in Rwanda and Burundi
we would n't have had graves full of HIV/AIDS victims
we would n't be having orphans
we would not have experienced long periods of droughts
we would not have had victims of floods , tsunamis and earthquakes
we would not be seeing people dying of hunger when the world can feed everyone without an effort
we would n't be having Christian and Moslem religious political parties loosing elections evry 5 years
actually we would not be having thugs,criminals, ra#pists and unemployement
Actually if the prayer myth was real we would not be having religious people devorcing
To reduce road accidents you do not have to waste your tiome and talk/speak to yourself loudly or silent, yopu need to repair roads, have strict license laws, have strict roadworthy checks, and sentence all those who break the road laws with heavy jail terms Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
K2A
Umuntu uyalandwa noma angashonela esibhedlela.......@ Secretary u on point they must look into that yes we all have our own beliefs but sometimes lokho ku affect nabantu abanga ngeni ndawo plus the road could have issues on its own so praying is good how much change will it bring to this situation... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
K2A
We all allowed to have a belief but that does not mean such beliefs are true, there are thousands of people who died in different places in our country and no one fetched them or to put it straight no one pretented to fetche thenm and those areas/places are safe as my bum Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
"We need to remove this evil curse with prayers."
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It is not a curse but irresponsible humans:
1. no heeding to the rules and regualtions of road, i.e
a) reckless driving
b) drunk driving
c) excessive speed
These are some of the examples but if motorists and pedestrians alike could respect each, loss of lives can be curbed. People shoudl stop being impatient, selfish.......... it is better to be a few minutes late than NOT ARRIVE AT ALL.....................
Mzabalazo
If the prayer was working we would n't have had thousands of people been killed in Rwanda and Burundi
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So you are saying God does not exist? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
M4V
_iVolontiya
Sorry your prayer won't help, that road is probably poorly designed, change the road (add speed humps, separate lanes, etc)...
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Prayer will help. Self confessed ex Satanist told on how they caused accidents on the road purposely, the devil is at work and we need to pray. I agree people can sometimes be negligent but in this situation it clearly shows that there are dark forces at work
M4V
_iVolontiya
Sorry your prayer won't help, that road is probably poorly designed, change the road (add speed humps, separate lanes, etc)...
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Prayer will help. Self confessed ex Satanist told on how they caused accidents on the road purposely, the devil is at work and we need to pray. I agree people can sometimes be negligent but in this situation it clearly shows that there are dark forces at work
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Very True M4V we must increase prayer.Devil is roaring like a lion seeking whom to devour. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Nantseka
@Ann
AMEN!
And here I thought you are a Tswana only speaking Tsonga,kasi wa xi ba nhe..... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
WordofGod
prayer works and all the time. this is not open for debate...
Jer 29: 12, Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile.” Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
MommaC
M4V
LOL
Yes and I can confirm that I purposefully caused a tree in Midrand to flower. Last spring and for no reason other than to mess with your head.
Satan must have the easiest job in the world. Humans screw up and he gets the credit. It is never the human's fault as humans are absolutely perfect and could never in a billion years disregard traffic laws or drive an unroadworthy car
Whether we pray or not, if we becum very irresponsible in whatever we do unfortunately our prayers will fall on deaf ears - putting it BLUNTLY Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
M4V
@ MommaC
As i have sad before, human negligence is there but we can not rule out the fact that the devil has a hand in these accidents. How come 3 accidents happen in a matter of hours? Does every one who drives down that road not follow the rules of the road? Definitely not! This goes to show that there’s something fishy going on. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Ann
Nantseka
@Ann
AMEN!
And here I thought you are a Tswana only speaking Tsonga,kasi wa xi ba nhe.
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lol im learning Tsonga Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
sakhomba
sorry to derail from from the topic...
@Ann
couple of years ago I developed interest in shangaan women.
ke mosotho, let us hook up... mita ku shabela bangstool na mabawula. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
M4V
MOTHUBANNYO
Whether we pray or not, if we becum very irresponsible in whatever we do unfortunately our prayers will fall on deaf ears - putting it BLUNTLY
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CORRECTION!
Our prayers don’t fall on deaf ears they fall on God’s ears, when God sends out the spirit of protection to protect us it is blocked by the irresponsible actions that we have caused
The gods help them what helps themselves. They are not babysitters. Stop nagging them and DO SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF like a real adult.
Three accidents in a morning is not exactly unheard of. Considering the speed and carelessness along with the volume of traffic - it is pretty miraculous that there are not more Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
M4V
The worst case would be that God is existing but he/she/ it is deaf, so let's say God does not exist than agree that we have a deaf God,. don't you think so? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
WordofGod
You rely on a liar Jeremiah was proved a liar by another liar Isiah, unfortunately you do not know the whole bible , get this:
Jeremiah's Failed Prophecy
The last prophecy we will look at is that by the prophet Jeremiah. He prophesied that Jehoiakim will have no successor:
Jeremiah 36:30
Therefore thus says the Lord concerning Jehoiakim king of Judah, he shall have none to sit on the throne of David.
Unfortunately his prophecy is proven false by another passage in the Bible:
II Kings 24:6
So Jehoiakim slept with his fathers and Jehoiachin his son reigned in his stead.
This is nothing compared to the slaghuis called R36/Lydenburd road between Tzaneen and Hoedspruit. Vanhu va hela eka patu leriya Burgersdorp ni humaka kona hi lahlekele hi vanhu vo tala eka rona... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
WordofGod
Or should we say God gave Jeremiah a wrong information, no wonder he cannot answe the prayers, he gives his prophet wrong information, like the one that his prophets passed it on to us, that " Damuscus will not be occupied any living people forever", guess what people as we speak are fighting for a moslecracy as we speak and Damascus is occupied by the generations of the people God hated so much. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
M4V
Mzabalazo
M4V
The worst case would be that God is existing but he/she/ it is deaf, so let's say God does not exist than agree that we have a deaf God,. don't you think so?
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NOOOOOO! God exists and he hears us, he is more real than you and me. Saying that he is deaf is actually an insult.
If you don’t invite him in your life and spend time with him you won’t feel his presence.
How can you not pray for protection and when you are faced with trouble you say God does not exist?
How can you go sleeping around and when you are in your death bed say God does not heal where in his word he said thou shall not commit adultery?
The worst case would be that God is existing but he/she/ it is deaf, so let's say God does not exist than agree that we have a deaf God,. don't you think so?
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NOOOOOO! God exists and he hears us, he is more real than you and me. Saying that he is deaf is actually an insult.
If you don’t invite him in your life and spend time with him you won’t feel his presence.
How can you not pray for protection and when you are faced with trouble you say God does not exist?
How can you go sleeping around and when you are in your death bed say God does not heal where in his word he said thou shall not commit adultery?
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I just like how black people worship Christianity more than the Israelis does, pure Indoctrination by the western masters at its best. but anyway we leave in a democratic world, we all have a right to a religion of our choice. I remain loyal to my ancestors... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
M4V
I do not invite non-existant substances, created by drunk men of old who wanted to make money out others. I live in a normal world whereby if you speak to super man you are mad as well as if you speak to a God you need some mental check ups, something is not really well.
Again if you sleep around do not think that every blogger you blog with have loose panties, one thing you people who speak alone, think every person who is normal enough not to speak to a Jewish imaginery God has no morals.
Secondly it is not only people who reject this imaginary God who because of fear of death induced to them by these filth religion, turn the other way. We have pastors that denounce God in their death bed, the only problem is that you only get the one sided story, as it used to pass on the propaganda that the imaginary God exist. He/she/it does n't exist dear. All the proof is in the fail prophecies of the bible. Wake up and stop speaking to an imagenary person, this is the 21st century you cannot be held in ransom by illiterate herdsmen of pre-historical age. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
BRA-MAFUTHA
@Mzabalazo
u need to repent turn away from your sins or you'll go to hell. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
MommaC
BRA-MAFUTHA
Thats okay. All the fun people will be there anyhow. I can do without the 'born agains' quite happily Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
nsukuangel
M4V
Mzabalazo
M4V
The worst case would be that God is existing but he/she/ it is deaf, so let's say God does not exist than agree that we have a deaf God,. don't you think so?
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NOOOOOO! God exists and he hears us, he is more real than you and me. Saying that he is deaf is actually an insult.
If you don’t invite him in your life and spend time with him you won’t feel his presence.
How can you not pray for protection and when you are faced with trouble you say God does not exist?
How can you go sleeping around and when you are in your death bed say God does not heal where in his word he said thou shall not commit adultery?
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M4V
My apologies, I am busy attending my customers and I failed to realise that you are not the one who posted
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nsukuangel
This one is for you:
I do not invite non-existant substances, created by drunk men of old who wanted to make money out others. I live in a normal world whereby if you speak to super man you are mad as well as if you speak to a God you need some mental check ups, something is not really well.
Again if you sleep around do not think that every blogger you blog with have loose panties, one thing you people who speak alone, think every person who is normal enough not to speak to a Jewish imaginery God has no morals.
Secondly it is not only people who reject this imaginary God who because of fear of death induced to them by these filth religion, turn the other way. We have pastors that denounce God in their death bed, the only problem is that you only get the one sided story, as it used to pass on the propaganda that the imaginary God exist. He/she/it does n't exist dear. All the proof is in the fail prophecies of the bible. Wake up and stop speaking to an imagenary person, this is the 21st century you cannot be held in ransom by illiterate herdsmen of pre-historical age.
You see what this speaking to an imaginary person does to you, it makes you not think before you speak, you just thought that you are blogging with a woman and she must be sleeping around, no other allegory could come to your mind other than that a woman sleeps around, you are stuck in the mediaval age of the bible.
Even if I were sleeping around and turn around in my deathbed and call for an imaginary God that would not make him/her/it exist, it will neam I kept it real until death came , and began to be insane and ask for an imaginary friend/God to take me to nowhere. In short Joe, calling for an imaginary God in your deathbed doesn't mean that God exist, it will just nema I have lost it like the rest.
I have never understood why accidents happens at traffic lights that actually are in working order. Maybe people need to stop trying to beat the traficc lights and respect other toad users. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
BRA-MAFUTHA
Galations 6:7 says
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Let everyman be a liar and God true.
I realy feel sorry for all those who have rejected Him, cause one the day it wont be all fun, his word will come to pass those that are not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire. Report Abuse
BRA-MAFUTHA
@Mzabalazo
u need to repent turn away from your sins or you'll go to hell.
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They forgot to tell you that the word Hell is an English word which as the result born out of mistranslation.
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I posted this just the other day and thought it would be a great topic. First of all I do not believe in hell, just another Teutonic pagan word. I do believe in the three Greek words Hades, Gehenna and Tartatus, and the Hebrew Sheol; but they simple mean the place of the dead.
New Testament reference by Ballantine (1934) which contain footnotes, marginal readings and appendages which point out that several key Greek and Hebrew words regarding Hell have been MIStranslated by such Bible versions as the King James Bible.
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Sheol and Hades are just graves, there is no fire in the graves, or have not been to the grave at your age?
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If the bible was the word of God it would not have a mistranslation and if God existed he/she it would not allow its word to be mistranslated.
So you are the one who need to repend there is no burning hell, neither a heaven with street of gold and aliens who have wings, all been males execpt for the new recruits or rather illegal immigrants with many colours, these illegal immigrants hated each other on earth and claim they will love each other in heaven just because they are now having transparent bodies and bird wings. This is really a Jewish Hollywood.
BRA-MAFUTHA
Galations 6:7 says
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Let everyman be a liar and God true.
I realy feel sorry for all those who have rejected Him, cause one the day it wont be all fun, his word will come to pass those that are not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire.
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Matt 10:14, And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
BRA-MAFUTHA
Galations 6:7 says
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Let everyman be a liar and God true.
I realy feel sorry for all those who have rejected Him, cause one the day it wont be all fun, his word will come to pass those that are not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire.
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@M4V & BRA- MAFUTHA
I do understand where you are coming from and I do know that this comes from the depth of your hearts and that is the reason I feel pity for you. You only chose to qoute scriptures that resonate with you and you are so brainwashed in such a way that even the qoutes that post from the bible and any evidence cannot permeate your brainwashed brain. I cannot blame you as an African from Mzansi I do understand that this cruel education was cemented on us kids and we know nothing better but recicyle the Hebrew-Judeo- European religion calle Christianity, but I am not giving up on you guys, I will tell the truth as it is and one day soem of you will wake up from the chains of false teaching.
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You qoute another liar anti- faminist and homophobian, Paul
1) Paul is a liar, he promised his followers in 1 Thessalonica that " he and those followers were not going to see death, they were going to see Jesus coming from the cloud to wake up the dead and they were going to be whisk away to meet him in the cloud. Tell me I am lying and show me the scripture that tells us that Paul ddi not die.
2) In Corintians Paul said wo#men must shut up in the church and if there was something they wanted to ask, they should ask their husband in their homes. I am glad tha Rebecca Malope and many women defied this religious male-chavunist
3) In the same book of Corithians Paul said that Ga#y people were not going to enter the kingdom, just like w#icher, dru3nkerds and thiefs, guess what these people today are preaching in Paul's church, he must be turning in his grave, or is turning in heaven.
4) Paul/ Saul form Tarsu was a con artist, knowing very well that there 12 appointed apostles and even when Judas left the group only one had to replace him ( Matthias) he claims to have meet Jesus and was made the 13th Apostle or th gentile apostle. He knew that no one will ask Jesus if that was true because the man was long dead.
So you qouted the wrong guy at least try and qoute for me Arch Bishop Tutu, the struggle hero.
^^^ next time just address a fool accordingly! dont entertain him/her
(a rod on a fool's back)..proverbs say. Entertain pigs than a fool.
*wink
@mzabalazo! you are a ninicumpoop! u need deliverance... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
m'zaco'
BRA-MAFUTHA
@Mzabalazo
u need to repent turn away from your sins or you'll go to hell.
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Yerrrrrrr__ you too maan.... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
WordofGod
@M4V
lol!!! i did the same long time ago...
Matt 10:14, And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town.
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You did nothing long time ago, you just closed your ears from the truth and beat about the bushes.
I hope one day you get to understand what life is all about and that the book you are qouting is fiiled with holes and cooked up stories and 70 of it it just a propaganda.
Matthew,Luke, Mark and John do not even agree who is Jesus's grand father, how can such eye witness not agree on a hero's grand father, read Jesus's geneleogy and if you eyes are with your brains you will not miss that.
the book of Act disagrees with Luke and Matthew about how Judas died and who bought the field of blood between the chief priest and Judas. You WordofGod you failed, ectually you did not even attempt to answer these questions and after that you claim you have tried, tried what? I am warning you my sister, do not even go there, I still have all our post, form you through the Evangelist down to stika and co. Report Abuse
^^^ next time just address a fool accordingly! dont entertain him/her
(a rod on a fool's back)..proverbs say. Entertain pigs than a fool.
*wink
@mzabalazo! you are a ninicumpoop! u need deliverance...
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I am not suprised that is what I expect form brainwashed, superstitious Christians, name calling doing exactly what your masters did, Jesus when defeated he would not debate fairly with other( though he was much more better than you) he used to call people snakes, and tombs with rotten bones, exactly the intolarence that I would expect from peple who represent a religion based on a lies. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
m'zaco'
Mzabalazo
You are a fool!
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Argue with the evidence I have posted and prove who is a fool, so far there is no evidence on your side that proves that you are not a fool Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
m'zaco at al
Prove me wrong that hell is a mistranslation from the bible:
New Testament reference by Ballantine (1934) which contain footnotes, marginal readings and appendages which point out that several key Greek and Hebrew words regarding Hell have been MIStranslated by such Bible versions as the King James Bible.
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Prove my foolishness at once and prove your intelliogence if there is, Report Abuse
I just read your post in my defense(not really , but on the same tune) and to think I attacked you bro, I am so sorry. I take it back thousands of times. Peace. Report Abuse
BaleliM
I have never understood why accidents happens at traffic lights that actually are in working order. Maybe people need to stop trying to beat the traficc lights and respect other toad users.
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2. Have you unbiasedly and thoroughly researched its derivatives? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
BRA-MAFUTHA
@WordofGod
@M4V
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this is not the time to give on her guys, remember what happend to Saul of Tarsus(Paul) he persecuted the church n killed God's people and a powerful conversion took place while on his way to Damascus to i still believe the same thing can happen still with Mzabalazo. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Ann
sakhomba
sorry to derail from from the topic...
@Ann
couple of years ago I developed interest in shangaan women.
ke mosotho, let us hook up... mita ku shabela bangstool na mabawula
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aowa wena... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
m'zaco'
@mafutha
ya but guys you needed to actively counter her argument with facts.... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
WordofGod
@BRA-MAFUTHA
i hear u. but can we let the holy spirit work in her...we can't do it with our own strength. even Paul was transformed by Jesus himself not a human being. we can only pray and nothing else. i have engaged in such debates with people like her on sowetan but couldn't continue cos i was using my own ability. lets rather pray. the gospel has been preached to people like her hence she is able to quote scriptures but mocking God instead. she is the future mamuruti, mo tlogele wena... Report Abuse
well, sometimes it does work no leave people to God. But at times we need to have a persuasive argument like paul in the synagogues...otherwise God would not say people should go preach the gospel to all nations.
Mzabalzo need a counter-argument that will persuade her otherwise.
@zaco
i believe the word of God is not for debate...if people didnt believe Jesus Christ while on earth, then who are we? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
BRA-MAFUTHA
Mzabalazo
You really need deliverance serious.
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The bible is the one that needs deliverence, it has clouded you in such a way that you cannot even see your nose.
I have qouted for you an evidence that hell is a mistranslation and all you do you do not even touch that subject. You know when I was young I did not believe that people can be brainwashed and now I can see intelligent people held on a tight leash by lies form the bible. Do you know that the bible claims that Judas bou#ght the field of blood and the same blood claims that Judas threw the 35 pieces of silver in the Temple and it was decided that the Chief priest should go and purchased the field . Or that does not mean any thing to you? To me it big time evidence of cooked up mickey mouse stories. The big joke is that the bible says the field was named the field of blood because it was bou#ght by the blood money and again it says the field was named the field of blood because Judas fell and his interstine burst. Now you want me to to join the fithly lies, go around an tell people that the bible is the truth when it is full of contradictions and lies. These my brother are just not even 1% of lies that this book has. How can I join lies, the very same repenttance is based on a lie that a rebellious Jewish leader who formed his religiong or sect was raised from the dead in 3 days, what a lie.
Com'mon BRA-MAFUTHA just call a spade a spade, tell me to come and join the biggest social group of liars, do not say I should repent, its just like saying to a person who has stop stealing, repent and still with us. That is not right Sir! Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
m'zaco'
@ mzabalazo
Lady, lets engage on this matter.
lets deal with my first questions
You deliver people from the lies to the truth, not from the truth to the lies, in the normal world we call that decieving not deliverence, you want me to join you and decieve poor people. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
m'zaco'
@mzabalazo masoja
1. Have you read the bible? Y/N only please.
2. Have you unbiasedly and thoroughly researched its derivatives?
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Do you think these qoutations comes from Snow White and the twelve dwarfs? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
m'zaco'
@mzabalazo
yes i think so_ i feel you are not au fait with the entirety of its contents hence the words that you spread on this blog....
can we get to the derivatives then... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
WordofGod
@zaco
satan in not and will not be on the same level as God. God created satan and remember satan was an angel. so he is on the same level as angels. sometimes you see articles with headings such as "God vs Satan" . this a mockery of God. why am saying this, is that, i dont believ in debating what the Almighty, Elohim has said with HIS own mouth with earthly doctrine. to argue the word of God with what was written by man is purely disrespecting God. what she is bringing here, is purely carnal, fleshly, wordily. its darkness, period! Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
m'zaco'
@ mzabalazo
Lady, lets engage on this matter.
lets deal with my first questions
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Now you want to engage a nincamppon? That is just funny, on what terms is your engagement, as I whave engaged you, there are scriptures I have qouted in almost every post as well as the 1934 foot note from the bible about hell, so that is an engagement, com'mon address the post that justified you to call me a fool. We are already engaged. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
m'zaco'
@mzabalazo
There are angles and different experiences to a single event in life_ hence for the same event we have versions by Jesus's disciples...i sense no contradictions there_ They all point to Jesus's life and ministry...
The people your quote as your references to counter-argue the validity of the bible...have you researched on them...if maybe they could be having some dubious moralities/vendetta...just read about their crux of the objections. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
m'zaco'
mzabalazo
am sorry for mentioning your status publicly...lets engage on a positive and rational level then... Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
m'zaco'
@wordofGod
yaa! i get your point. sounds mature, **wink**
One day @mzabalazo will be born again, would you mind buying her a bible? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
WordofGod
@zaco
satan in not and will not be on the same level as God. God created satan and remember satan was an angel. so he is on the same level as angels. sometimes you see articles with headings such as "God vs Satan" . this a mockery of God. why am saying this, is that, i dont believ in debating what the Almighty, Elohim has said with HIS own mouth with earthly doctrine. to argue the word of God with what was written by man is purely disrespecting God. what she is bringing here, is purely carnal, fleshly, wordily. its darkness, period
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That is an excuse you Christians use when you see that you met your match, you always wants the softies and the yes madam or yer sir. When you met people who know their story yopu start to pull the old trick in the book, "Satan. darkness, If Satan existed he would be mesmerised with all the credits given to him/her/it, unfortunately it/she/he exist in your minds only.
Now what a contradiction , one day in our debate you raised the same issue that God know everything even things that would happen before they happened and if it that case that means God is responsible for Satan, he/she/it knew that it was creating an adversary, but did not care because he/she/it knew that it would not be affected by wars, HIV/AIDS, rapes and hunger,Satan will atatck people in Congo, by the way the devil was also responsible for apartheid isnt it. So a God of love created satan and darkness for what to trouble and torment you Christians, to make you stop chatting to fellow human beings who post what is true and can be proven day or night. You are a big excuse my sister, thanks for nothing Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
WordofGod
@zaco
she must be having one...oh! sorry, it looks as if she is using the one with an upside down cross hence she is quoting scriptures that are twisted
@mzabalazo
will continue to pray for you. love you with the love of Christ ...wink Report Abuse
BRA-MAFUTHA
@WordofGod
@M4V
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this is not the time to give on her guys, remember what happend to Saul of Tarsus(Paul) he persecuted the church n killed God's people and a powerful conversion took place while on his way to Damascus to i still believe the same thing can happen still with Mzabalazo.
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This is reality BRA-MAFUTHA it is not a comedy, I am not persecuting you and I am not related to any Jew that is drunk on religion. I like the idea of engaging me but do not think that I will be decieved to be come a peddler of lies, based on Snow White and the 12 dwarfs( as m zaco beleives that the bible is)
Answer the questions that I have posted of prove me lost by exacly attending to the scriptures I have qouted and the hell issue you raised yourself. I have never seen a person who claims he want to help you, and yet avoid the very same things that creates a barrier between them and their trying to help. This is so unreal Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
m'zaco'
@mzabalazo
do you believe there is a GOD?
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Ubuzi ibhasi libhaliwe, what are you doing?
Why did you call me a fool? Was it not based on what you already know about me, m'zaco dear, you are wasting my time, patiently read all post and the answer wil glare at you and you will so embarrassed that you ever asked such an obvious thing. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
BRA-MAFUTHA
Mzabalazo
I have one question for you who do believe in?? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
BRA-MAFUTHA
Mzabalazo
I have one question for you who do believe in??
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Old trick in the book, trying to divert from the base,
Can you first answer me this why Matthew and the Act do not aggree on who bou#ght the field of blood, why the field was named the field of blood, and how Judas died. ( this will be the Greek Aramiac scriptures known today as New testament)
The attend the Hebrew scriptures ( now called old testament) why does the II Kings been not in agreement with Jeremiah
Jeremiah 36:30
Therefore thus says the Lord concerning Jehoiakim king of Judah, he shall have none to sit on the throne of David.
II Kings 24:6
So Jehoiakim slept with his fathers and Jehoiachin his son reigned in his stead.
Then you can ask m'zaco' s question after you have answered my long over due argument/ discussion/ challenge which is not made up by Satan but it is from your bible which you want me to base my faith on Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Flemza
Do some traditional rituals instead of praying , how is praying going to help , this is not Israel , let us be Africans just for once and stop this carnage intead of stealing a tradition which is not ours Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
WordofGod
@zaco
she must be having one...oh! sorry, it looks as if she is using the one with an upside down cross hence she is quoting scriptures that are twisted
@mzabalazo
will continue to pray for you. love you with the love of Christ ...wink
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@WordofGod
By all means keep on talking to yourself about me, that will not bother me, as long as you keep on avoiding the questions that can remove the barrier and think your magic powers from Chris, Ndeya, and the rest of the money makers will work on dear, then you are still asleep.
If you want to win me explain, make me understand, the scriptures in question, no magic will make the evidence I have posted varnish. Attend to these questions, and you know many more that I have posted before, and you went to pray and still I am what I am, why? You avoid to touch the subjects that bothers me in the bible and your faith, as long as you avoid them your magic will not work. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
WordofGod
@zaco
she must be having one...oh! sorry, it looks as if she is using the one with an upside down cross hence she is quoting scriptures that are twisted
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Name callers and cowards prove to me and the rest of the bloggers that I am using the bible upside down , you cowards, prove me that Jeremiah and II Kings do not disaggree, prove to me that I ma wrong about the field of blood. You are worse than I ever thought, you lie in public and aftre that you claim Satan and people like me live in darkness, Pretenders, shine your light, rescure me by explaining the scriptures, at least you not even trying to explain them in your poor way, why because they caught you by suprise, you still need to phone your master liars to try rescue you from pure common sense. You are worse than what I thought you were, you cannot even stand for your faith with the only tool you have, you cannot even take an advantage of the fact that I am qouting the bible and try to draw me to what you call the light, you are failing because there is no light where you are, you keep on pretending and drawing weakminded people to your posionous snare, people who get impressed with your sad songs and threats of hell and when you me people like me you shiver because your blind pastors never warned that there are people out there who knows the bible far much better thean them. Go to your imaginary heaven and remain continuos sla#ves. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
All you cowards please qoute these scriptures I have posted correctly, show me how not to qoute them in a twisted way,com'on, qoute for us, we are waiting , make Jeremiah and II Kings agree, you have the magic power to do that, you have the holy spirit to help you do that, come I am waiting, after that make the story of the field of bllod un twisted, teach me and I am definately that there are some who will like you to do that. You ave been prayin for so long now, you cannot be unable to make untwist these scriptures, unless you do not know them. STOP the accussation just explain the scriptures, at least just try, God would not let you down , would he? Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
To all of you FAITHLESS internet Faith paraders
Your faith is based on lies and cowardice you even call your own bible's scriptures twisted, you have no faith that always parade it on the internet, instead of defending your own bible you attack it and say it has twisted scriptures. Then where have you been basing your weak faith from? From advertising yourselves an the hlolier than though bloggers, who pray for those whom you undermine and think they have no knowlegde of the bible, and when you realise that they know much, you claim they need a prayer, when they insist on the truth you then paint tem satan, darkness and worse of all you avoid the disscussion and start name calling, what a tolerance you have you faithless internet faith paraders.
Your in your bible is as weak as your reasoning.
I rets my case, take care chat on the next post. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
Mzabalazo
m'zaco'
@mzabalazo
There are angles and different experiences to a single event in life_ hence for the same event we have versions by Jesus's disciples...i sense no contradictions there_ They all point to Jesus's life and ministry...
The people your quote as your references to counter-argue the validity of the bible...have you researched on them...if maybe they could be having some dubious moralities/vendetta...just read about their crux of the objections.
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To be honest, I am not suppose to engage you on this level, but I will do you a favour, maybe you will become enlightened.
I have qouted Matthew and Acts on the issue of the field of blood, and I have deliberately avoided to qouting the verses, as I thought your zeal will make you page the bible and I realised that you are one of those Christians whose bible pages as new as they when your bible was bought, you do not bother to open it, you take everything that the confused lot, the likes of the WordofGod tells you.
Now get this: Matthew and the Acts are not qouted from any people who you claim to have been qouted, it is from the bible you never even attempt to open, The Jesus geneology is in Luke, Matthew Mark and a bit of a fictitious one in John. Instead of attending these simple qoutes, you start talking something not related to this topic as yet( as yet, because we would have got into that issue if you had the gut of addressing my question instead of calling me a fool). So you directly out of order, thanks to the stale sermon you heard last month that you are now throwing into this discussion and it is irrelevant. At least you tried, unlike your pastor WordofGod who uses guerrilla tactics. Report Abuse
Jul 11, 2012
moralett
Good people, south african now is time to pray, the devil is taking control of us. Lets join together and pray. Satanism is trying to control this land South Africa Report Abuse
Jul 13, 2012
Gaara
@Mzabalazo
You are wasting your time with these people, the delusion is so deeply ingrained that logic is no longer factored into the thought process. I always asked myself how black people could be so foolish as to believe something that had to brought to them by the white man, ask a black christian when the first bible arrived in South Africa and they look at you with a blank stare.they fail to understand the implications of this book having been BROUGHT to this land.this omniscient,omnipresent god writes or inspires the writing of a book containing the most important msg in the world for all mankind, but decides to do it in a language that would soon die out therefore condemning us to rely on translations of copies of copies of copies of translations, give this book to a small group of desert tribesmen and charges them with the responsibility o spreading this msg to the rest of the world.This is the god that these people think will have the capacity to solve the worlds problems?so laughable.
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magebula
Jehovha a nghenelele a hlula nala Sathan e patwini leriReport Abuse
Knan
Eish sorry to those affectedYou are with us in our prayers
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iVolontiya
Sorry your prayer won't help, that road is probably poorly designed, change the road (add speed humps, separate lanes, etc)...Report Abuse
gee18
My friend also lost his life on this road year before last. We really need to pray for our South African roads. The devil is recruiting as much people as it can. Let's turn to God. Akahlulwa lutho.Report Abuse
sodoma
my friend and my neighbour lost their life in that devil road eish is sadReport Abuse
Mellow
"We need to remove this evil curse with prayers."......................................................................................
OMW they neglect to teach ppl about safety driving and they blame it on evil curse honestly SA'ns #SMH ppl are too negligent, lacks courtesy and are always trying to multitask while driving there's no curse here just bad driving
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Secretary
There are number of facts that need to be taken in to consideration before just going there and make a prayer. Do the local people understand traffic lights or do the lights function properly? If those cases could be checked properly and nothing solid was found, the other issue can be the cleansing of the streets traditionally after the first loss of life. If they cannot cleanse the street even when they can call biggest pastors and Nigerians the spot will remain deadly.Report Abuse
Mellow
iVolontiyaSorry your prayer won't help, that road is probably poorly designed, change the road (add speed humps, separate lanes, etc)...
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True probably the roads are just a mess as well
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MommaC
Sorry dude. I don't think god does taxis. Besides, she is too busy with the sorting of the souls you keep sending herWhy not do something practical like getting the useless cops to do their job ?
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Ann
a e khongeleniTata wa hina la nge tilweni,
vito ra wena a ri hlawuriwe;
a ku te ku fuma ka wena;
ku rhandza ka wena a ku endliwe
misaveni, tanihi loko ku endliwa tilweni
u hi nyika namuntlha vuswa bya hina
bya siku rin'wana ni rin'wana;
u hi rivalela swidyoho swa hina,
tanihi loko na hina hi rivalela lava
hi dyohelaka; u nga hi yisi emiringweni
kambe u hi ponisa eka Lowo biha,
[hikuva ku fuma, ni matimba, no ku twala i swa wena
hi masiku ni masiku. Amen]
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Mzabalazo
If the prayer was working we would n't have had thousands of people been killed in Rwanda and Burundiwe would n't have had graves full of HIV/AIDS victims
we would n't be having orphans
we would not have experienced long periods of droughts
we would not have had victims of floods , tsunamis and earthquakes
we would not be seeing people dying of hunger when the world can feed everyone without an effort
we would n't be having Christian and Moslem religious political parties loosing elections evry 5 years
actually we would not be having thugs,criminals, ra#pists and unemployement
Actually if the prayer myth was real we would not be having religious people devorcing
To reduce road accidents you do not have to waste your tiome and talk/speak to yourself loudly or silent, yopu need to repair roads, have strict license laws, have strict roadworthy checks, and sentence all those who break the road laws with heavy jail terms
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K2A
Umuntu uyalandwa noma angashonela esibhedlela.......@ Secretary u on point they must look into that yes we all have our own beliefs but sometimes lokho ku affect nabantu abanga ngeni ndawo plus the road could have issues on its own so praying is good how much change will it bring to this situation...Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
K2AWe all allowed to have a belief but that does not mean such beliefs are true, there are thousands of people who died in different places in our country and no one fetched them or to put it straight no one pretented to fetche thenm and those areas/places are safe as my bum
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
"We need to remove this evil curse with prayers."********************************************************************************
It is not a curse but irresponsible humans:
1. no heeding to the rules and regualtions of road, i.e
a) reckless driving
b) drunk driving
c) excessive speed
These are some of the examples but if motorists and pedestrians alike could respect each, loss of lives can be curbed. People shoudl stop being impatient, selfish.......... it is better to be a few minutes late than NOT ARRIVE AT ALL.....................
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Mzabalazo
MsKinkyakaKama SutraWhat a beautiful breath of fresh air, thanks for that and I can't say more.
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@MzabalazoThank you......... you are quite an astute blogger
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Mzabalazo
MsKinkyakaKamaSutraI am honoured dear
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M4V
MzabalazoIf the prayer was working we would n't have had thousands of people been killed in Rwanda and Burundi
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So you are saying God does not exist?
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M4V
_iVolontiyaSorry your prayer won't help, that road is probably poorly designed, change the road (add speed humps, separate lanes, etc)...
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Prayer will help. Self confessed ex Satanist told on how they caused accidents on the road purposely, the devil is at work and we need to pray. I agree people can sometimes be negligent but in this situation it clearly shows that there are dark forces at work
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Babedollz
M4V_iVolontiya
Sorry your prayer won't help, that road is probably poorly designed, change the road (add speed humps, separate lanes, etc)...
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Prayer will help. Self confessed ex Satanist told on how they caused accidents on the road purposely, the devil is at work and we need to pray. I agree people can sometimes be negligent but in this situation it clearly shows that there are dark forces at work
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Very True M4V we must increase prayer.Devil is roaring like a lion seeking whom to devour.
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Nantseka
@AnnAMEN!
And here I thought you are a Tswana only speaking Tsonga,kasi wa xi ba nhe.....
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WordofGod
prayer works and all the time. this is not open for debate...Jer 29: 12, Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile.”
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MommaC
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Yes and I can confirm that I purposefully caused a tree in Midrand to flower. Last spring and for no reason other than to mess with your head.
Satan must have the easiest job in the world. Humans screw up and he gets the credit. It is never the human's fault as humans are absolutely perfect and could never in a billion years disregard traffic laws or drive an unroadworthy car
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MOTHUBANNYO
Whether we pray or not, if we becum very irresponsible in whatever we do unfortunately our prayers will fall on deaf ears - putting it BLUNTLYReport Abuse
M4V
@ MommaCAs i have sad before, human negligence is there but we can not rule out the fact that the devil has a hand in these accidents. How come 3 accidents happen in a matter of hours? Does every one who drives down that road not follow the rules of the road? Definitely not! This goes to show that there’s something fishy going on.
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Ann
Nantseka@Ann
AMEN!
And here I thought you are a Tswana only speaking Tsonga,kasi wa xi ba nhe.
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lol im learning Tsonga
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sakhomba
sorry to derail from from the topic...@Ann
couple of years ago I developed interest in shangaan women.
ke mosotho, let us hook up... mita ku shabela bangstool na mabawula.
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M4V
MOTHUBANNYOWhether we pray or not, if we becum very irresponsible in whatever we do unfortunately our prayers will fall on deaf ears - putting it BLUNTLY
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CORRECTION!
Our prayers don’t fall on deaf ears they fall on God’s ears, when God sends out the spirit of protection to protect us it is blocked by the irresponsible actions that we have caused
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MommaC
M4VThe gods help them what helps themselves. They are not babysitters. Stop nagging them and DO SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF like a real adult.
Three accidents in a morning is not exactly unheard of. Considering the speed and carelessness along with the volume of traffic - it is pretty miraculous that there are not more
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Mzabalazo
M4VThe worst case would be that God is existing but he/she/ it is deaf, so let's say God does not exist than agree that we have a deaf God,. don't you think so?
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Mzabalazo
WordofGodYou rely on a liar Jeremiah was proved a liar by another liar Isiah, unfortunately you do not know the whole bible , get this:
Jeremiah's Failed Prophecy
The last prophecy we will look at is that by the prophet Jeremiah. He prophesied that Jehoiakim will have no successor:
Jeremiah 36:30
Therefore thus says the Lord concerning Jehoiakim king of Judah, he shall have none to sit on the throne of David.
Unfortunately his prophecy is proven false by another passage in the Bible:
II Kings 24:6
So Jehoiakim slept with his fathers and Jehoiachin his son reigned in his stead.
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nsukuangel
This is nothing compared to the slaghuis called R36/Lydenburd road between Tzaneen and Hoedspruit. Vanhu va hela eka patu leriya Burgersdorp ni humaka kona hi lahlekele hi vanhu vo tala eka rona...Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
WordofGodOr should we say God gave Jeremiah a wrong information, no wonder he cannot answe the prayers, he gives his prophet wrong information, like the one that his prophets passed it on to us, that " Damuscus will not be occupied any living people forever", guess what people as we speak are fighting for a moslecracy as we speak and Damascus is occupied by the generations of the people God hated so much.
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M4V
MzabalazoM4V
The worst case would be that God is existing but he/she/ it is deaf, so let's say God does not exist than agree that we have a deaf God,. don't you think so?
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NOOOOOO! God exists and he hears us, he is more real than you and me. Saying that he is deaf is actually an insult.
If you don’t invite him in your life and spend time with him you won’t feel his presence.
How can you not pray for protection and when you are faced with trouble you say God does not exist?
How can you go sleeping around and when you are in your death bed say God does not heal where in his word he said thou shall not commit adultery?
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nsukuangel
M4VMzabalazo
M4V
The worst case would be that God is existing but he/she/ it is deaf, so let's say God does not exist than agree that we have a deaf God,. don't you think so?
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NOOOOOO! God exists and he hears us, he is more real than you and me. Saying that he is deaf is actually an insult.
If you don’t invite him in your life and spend time with him you won’t feel his presence.
How can you not pray for protection and when you are faced with trouble you say God does not exist?
How can you go sleeping around and when you are in your death bed say God does not heal where in his word he said thou shall not commit adultery?
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I just like how black people worship Christianity more than the Israelis does, pure Indoctrination by the western masters at its best. but anyway we leave in a democratic world, we all have a right to a religion of our choice. I remain loyal to my ancestors...
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Mzabalazo
M4VI do not invite non-existant substances, created by drunk men of old who wanted to make money out others. I live in a normal world whereby if you speak to super man you are mad as well as if you speak to a God you need some mental check ups, something is not really well.
Again if you sleep around do not think that every blogger you blog with have loose panties, one thing you people who speak alone, think every person who is normal enough not to speak to a Jewish imaginery God has no morals.
Secondly it is not only people who reject this imaginary God who because of fear of death induced to them by these filth religion, turn the other way. We have pastors that denounce God in their death bed, the only problem is that you only get the one sided story, as it used to pass on the propaganda that the imaginary God exist. He/she/it does n't exist dear. All the proof is in the fail prophecies of the bible. Wake up and stop speaking to an imagenary person, this is the 21st century you cannot be held in ransom by illiterate herdsmen of pre-historical age.
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BRA-MAFUTHA
@Mzabalazou need to repent turn away from your sins or you'll go to hell.
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MommaC
BRA-MAFUTHAThats okay. All the fun people will be there anyhow. I can do without the 'born agains' quite happily
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nsukuangelM4V
Mzabalazo
M4V
The worst case would be that God is existing but he/she/ it is deaf, so let's say God does not exist than agree that we have a deaf God,. don't you think so?
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NOOOOOO! God exists and he hears us, he is more real than you and me. Saying that he is deaf is actually an insult.
If you don’t invite him in your life and spend time with him you won’t feel his presence.
How can you not pray for protection and when you are faced with trouble you say God does not exist?
How can you go sleeping around and when you are in your death bed say God does not heal where in his word he said thou shall not commit adultery?
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M4V
My apologies, I am busy attending my customers and I failed to realise that you are not the one who posted
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nsukuangel
This one is for you:
I do not invite non-existant substances, created by drunk men of old who wanted to make money out others. I live in a normal world whereby if you speak to super man you are mad as well as if you speak to a God you need some mental check ups, something is not really well.
Again if you sleep around do not think that every blogger you blog with have loose panties, one thing you people who speak alone, think every person who is normal enough not to speak to a Jewish imaginery God has no morals.
Secondly it is not only people who reject this imaginary God who because of fear of death induced to them by these filth religion, turn the other way. We have pastors that denounce God in their death bed, the only problem is that you only get the one sided story, as it used to pass on the propaganda that the imaginary God exist. He/she/it does n't exist dear. All the proof is in the fail prophecies of the bible. Wake up and stop speaking to an imagenary person, this is the 21st century you cannot be held in ransom by illiterate herdsmen of pre-historical age.
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Mzabalazo
nsukuangelYou see what this speaking to an imaginary person does to you, it makes you not think before you speak, you just thought that you are blogging with a woman and she must be sleeping around, no other allegory could come to your mind other than that a woman sleeps around, you are stuck in the mediaval age of the bible.
Even if I were sleeping around and turn around in my deathbed and call for an imaginary God that would not make him/her/it exist, it will neam I kept it real until death came , and began to be insane and ask for an imaginary friend/God to take me to nowhere. In short Joe, calling for an imaginary God in your deathbed doesn't mean that God exist, it will just nema I have lost it like the rest.
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BaleliM
I have never understood why accidents happens at traffic lights that actually are in working order. Maybe people need to stop trying to beat the traficc lights and respect other toad users.Report Abuse
BRA-MAFUTHA
Galations 6:7 saysBe not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Let everyman be a liar and God true.
I realy feel sorry for all those who have rejected Him, cause one the day it wont be all fun, his word will come to pass those that are not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire.
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M4V
Tjo! Mzabalazo i give up on youReport Abuse
Mzabalazo
BRA-MAFUTHA@Mzabalazo
u need to repent turn away from your sins or you'll go to hell.
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They forgot to tell you that the word Hell is an English word which as the result born out of mistranslation.
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I posted this just the other day and thought it would be a great topic. First of all I do not believe in hell, just another Teutonic pagan word. I do believe in the three Greek words Hades, Gehenna and Tartatus, and the Hebrew Sheol; but they simple mean the place of the dead.
New Testament reference by Ballantine (1934) which contain footnotes, marginal readings and appendages which point out that several key Greek and Hebrew words regarding Hell have been MIStranslated by such Bible versions as the King James Bible.
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Sheol and Hades are just graves, there is no fire in the graves, or have not been to the grave at your age?
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If the bible was the word of God it would not have a mistranslation and if God existed he/she it would not allow its word to be mistranslated.
So you are the one who need to repend there is no burning hell, neither a heaven with street of gold and aliens who have wings, all been males execpt for the new recruits or rather illegal immigrants with many colours, these illegal immigrants hated each other on earth and claim they will love each other in heaven just because they are now having transparent bodies and bird wings. This is really a Jewish Hollywood.
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M4V
BRA-MAFUTHAGalations 6:7 says
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Let everyman be a liar and God true.
I realy feel sorry for all those who have rejected Him, cause one the day it wont be all fun, his word will come to pass those that are not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire.
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Amen! i couldn’t have said it better
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WordofGod
@M4Vlol!!! i did the same long time ago...
Matt 10:14, And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town.
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Mzabalazo
BRA-MAFUTHAGalations 6:7 says
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Let everyman be a liar and God true.
I realy feel sorry for all those who have rejected Him, cause one the day it wont be all fun, his word will come to pass those that are not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire.
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@M4V & BRA- MAFUTHA
I do understand where you are coming from and I do know that this comes from the depth of your hearts and that is the reason I feel pity for you. You only chose to qoute scriptures that resonate with you and you are so brainwashed in such a way that even the qoutes that post from the bible and any evidence cannot permeate your brainwashed brain. I cannot blame you as an African from Mzansi I do understand that this cruel education was cemented on us kids and we know nothing better but recicyle the Hebrew-Judeo- European religion calle Christianity, but I am not giving up on you guys, I will tell the truth as it is and one day soem of you will wake up from the chains of false teaching.
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You qoute another liar anti- faminist and homophobian, Paul
1) Paul is a liar, he promised his followers in 1 Thessalonica that " he and those followers were not going to see death, they were going to see Jesus coming from the cloud to wake up the dead and they were going to be whisk away to meet him in the cloud. Tell me I am lying and show me the scripture that tells us that Paul ddi not die.
2) In Corintians Paul said wo#men must shut up in the church and if there was something they wanted to ask, they should ask their husband in their homes. I am glad tha Rebecca Malope and many women defied this religious male-chavunist
3) In the same book of Corithians Paul said that Ga#y people were not going to enter the kingdom, just like w#icher, dru3nkerds and thiefs, guess what these people today are preaching in Paul's church, he must be turning in his grave, or is turning in heaven.
4) Paul/ Saul form Tarsu was a con artist, knowing very well that there 12 appointed apostles and even when Judas left the group only one had to replace him ( Matthias) he claims to have meet Jesus and was made the 13th Apostle or th gentile apostle. He knew that no one will ask Jesus if that was true because the man was long dead.
So you qouted the wrong guy at least try and qoute for me Arch Bishop Tutu, the struggle hero.
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m'zaco'
MzabalazoYou are a fool!
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m'zaco'
M4VTjo! Mzabalazo i give up on you
^^^ next time just address a fool accordingly! dont entertain him/her
(a rod on a fool's back)..proverbs say. Entertain pigs than a fool.
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@mzabalazo! you are a ninicumpoop! u need deliverance...
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BRA-MAFUTHA@Mzabalazo
u need to repent turn away from your sins or you'll go to hell.
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Yerrrrrrr__ you too maan....
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WordofGod@M4V
lol!!! i did the same long time ago...
Matt 10:14, And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town.
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You did nothing long time ago, you just closed your ears from the truth and beat about the bushes.
I hope one day you get to understand what life is all about and that the book you are qouting is fiiled with holes and cooked up stories and 70 of it it just a propaganda.
Matthew,Luke, Mark and John do not even agree who is Jesus's grand father, how can such eye witness not agree on a hero's grand father, read Jesus's geneleogy and if you eyes are with your brains you will not miss that.
the book of Act disagrees with Luke and Matthew about how Judas died and who bought the field of blood between the chief priest and Judas. You WordofGod you failed, ectually you did not even attempt to answer these questions and after that you claim you have tried, tried what? I am warning you my sister, do not even go there, I still have all our post, form you through the Evangelist down to stika and co.
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m'zaco'M4V
Tjo! Mzabalazo i give up on you
^^^ next time just address a fool accordingly! dont entertain him/her
(a rod on a fool's back)..proverbs say. Entertain pigs than a fool.
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@mzabalazo! you are a ninicumpoop! u need deliverance...
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I am not suprised that is what I expect form brainwashed, superstitious Christians, name calling doing exactly what your masters did, Jesus when defeated he would not debate fairly with other( though he was much more better than you) he used to call people snakes, and tombs with rotten bones, exactly the intolarence that I would expect from peple who represent a religion based on a lies.
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Mzabalazo
m'zaco'Mzabalazo
You are a fool!
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Argue with the evidence I have posted and prove who is a fool, so far there is no evidence on your side that proves that you are not a fool
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Mzabalazo
m'zaco at alProve me wrong that hell is a mistranslation from the bible:
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New Testament reference by Ballantine (1934) which contain footnotes, marginal readings and appendages which point out that several key Greek and Hebrew words regarding Hell have been MIStranslated by such Bible versions as the King James Bible.
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Prove my foolishness at once and prove your intelliogence if there is,
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nsukuangelI just read your post in my defense(not really , but on the same tune) and to think I attacked you bro, I am so sorry. I take it back thousands of times. Peace.
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BRA-MAFUTHA
MzabalazoYou really need deliverance serious.
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Mzabalazo
BaleliMI have never understood why accidents happens at traffic lights that actually are in working order. Maybe people need to stop trying to beat the traficc lights and respect other toad users.
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Ke Satane lema demona (lol)
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m'zaco'
hello mzabalazo,lets talk my dear..
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m'zaco'
@mzabalazo masoja1. Have you read the bible? Y/N only please.
2. Have you unbiasedly and thoroughly researched its derivatives?
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BRA-MAFUTHA
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this is not the time to give on her guys, remember what happend to Saul of Tarsus(Paul) he persecuted the church n killed God's people and a powerful conversion took place while on his way to Damascus to i still believe the same thing can happen still with Mzabalazo.
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Ann
sakhombasorry to derail from from the topic...
@Ann
couple of years ago I developed interest in shangaan women.
ke mosotho, let us hook up... mita ku shabela bangstool na mabawula
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aowa wena...
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m'zaco'
@mafuthaya but guys you needed to actively counter her argument with facts....
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WordofGod
@BRA-MAFUTHAi hear u. but can we let the holy spirit work in her...we can't do it with our own strength. even Paul was transformed by Jesus himself not a human being. we can only pray and nothing else. i have engaged in such debates with people like her on sowetan but couldn't continue cos i was using my own ability. lets rather pray. the gospel has been preached to people like her hence she is able to quote scriptures but mocking God instead. she is the future mamuruti, mo tlogele wena...
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BRA-MAFUTHA
WordofGodI fully agree with u.
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m'zaco'
WordofGodwell, sometimes it does work no leave people to God. But at times we need to have a persuasive argument like paul in the synagogues...otherwise God would not say people should go preach the gospel to all nations.
Mzabalzo need a counter-argument that will persuade her otherwise.
*wink*_ sure Wordies...
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@zacoi believe the word of God is not for debate...if people didnt believe Jesus Christ while on earth, then who are we?
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BRA-MAFUTHAMzabalazo
You really need deliverance serious.
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The bible is the one that needs deliverence, it has clouded you in such a way that you cannot even see your nose.
I have qouted for you an evidence that hell is a mistranslation and all you do you do not even touch that subject. You know when I was young I did not believe that people can be brainwashed and now I can see intelligent people held on a tight leash by lies form the bible. Do you know that the bible claims that Judas bou#ght the field of blood and the same blood claims that Judas threw the 35 pieces of silver in the Temple and it was decided that the Chief priest should go and purchased the field . Or that does not mean any thing to you? To me it big time evidence of cooked up mickey mouse stories. The big joke is that the bible says the field was named the field of blood because it was bou#ght by the blood money and again it says the field was named the field of blood because Judas fell and his interstine burst. Now you want me to to join the fithly lies, go around an tell people that the bible is the truth when it is full of contradictions and lies. These my brother are just not even 1% of lies that this book has. How can I join lies, the very same repenttance is based on a lie that a rebellious Jewish leader who formed his religiong or sect was raised from the dead in 3 days, what a lie.
Com'mon BRA-MAFUTHA just call a spade a spade, tell me to come and join the biggest social group of liars, do not say I should repent, its just like saying to a person who has stop stealing, repent and still with us. That is not right Sir!
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m'zaco'
@ mzabalazoLady, lets engage on this matter.
lets deal with my first questions
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Mzabalazo
BRA-MAFUTHAYou deliver people from the lies to the truth, not from the truth to the lies, in the normal world we call that decieving not deliverence, you want me to join you and decieve poor people.
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m'zaco'@mzabalazo masoja
1. Have you read the bible? Y/N only please.
2. Have you unbiasedly and thoroughly researched its derivatives?
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Do you think these qoutations comes from Snow White and the twelve dwarfs?
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m'zaco'
@mzabalazoyes i think so_ i feel you are not au fait with the entirety of its contents hence the words that you spread on this blog....
can we get to the derivatives then...
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WordofGod
@zacosatan in not and will not be on the same level as God. God created satan and remember satan was an angel. so he is on the same level as angels. sometimes you see articles with headings such as "God vs Satan" . this a mockery of God. why am saying this, is that, i dont believ in debating what the Almighty, Elohim has said with HIS own mouth with earthly doctrine. to argue the word of God with what was written by man is purely disrespecting God. what she is bringing here, is purely carnal, fleshly, wordily. its darkness, period!
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m'zaco'@ mzabalazo
Lady, lets engage on this matter.
lets deal with my first questions
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Now you want to engage a nincamppon? That is just funny, on what terms is your engagement, as I whave engaged you, there are scriptures I have qouted in almost every post as well as the 1934 foot note from the bible about hell, so that is an engagement, com'mon address the post that justified you to call me a fool. We are already engaged.
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m'zaco'
@mzabalazoThere are angles and different experiences to a single event in life_ hence for the same event we have versions by Jesus's disciples...i sense no contradictions there_ They all point to Jesus's life and ministry...
The people your quote as your references to counter-argue the validity of the bible...have you researched on them...if maybe they could be having some dubious moralities/vendetta...just read about their crux of the objections.
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m'zaco'
mzabalazoam sorry for mentioning your status publicly...lets engage on a positive and rational level then...
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m'zaco'
@wordofGodyaa! i get your point. sounds mature, **wink**
One day @mzabalazo will be born again, would you mind buying her a bible?
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satan in not and will not be on the same level as God. God created satan and remember satan was an angel. so he is on the same level as angels. sometimes you see articles with headings such as "God vs Satan" . this a mockery of God. why am saying this, is that, i dont believ in debating what the Almighty, Elohim has said with HIS own mouth with earthly doctrine. to argue the word of God with what was written by man is purely disrespecting God. what she is bringing here, is purely carnal, fleshly, wordily. its darkness, period
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That is an excuse you Christians use when you see that you met your match, you always wants the softies and the yes madam or yer sir. When you met people who know their story yopu start to pull the old trick in the book, "Satan. darkness, If Satan existed he would be mesmerised with all the credits given to him/her/it, unfortunately it/she/he exist in your minds only.
Now what a contradiction , one day in our debate you raised the same issue that God know everything even things that would happen before they happened and if it that case that means God is responsible for Satan, he/she/it knew that it was creating an adversary, but did not care because he/she/it knew that it would not be affected by wars, HIV/AIDS, rapes and hunger,Satan will atatck people in Congo, by the way the devil was also responsible for apartheid isnt it. So a God of love created satan and darkness for what to trouble and torment you Christians, to make you stop chatting to fellow human beings who post what is true and can be proven day or night. You are a big excuse my sister, thanks for nothing
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@zacoshe must be having one...oh! sorry, it looks as if she is using the one with an upside down cross hence she is quoting scriptures that are twisted
@mzabalazo
will continue to pray for you. love you with the love of Christ ...wink
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@mzabalazodo you believe there is a GOD?
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this is not the time to give on her guys, remember what happend to Saul of Tarsus(Paul) he persecuted the church n killed God's people and a powerful conversion took place while on his way to Damascus to i still believe the same thing can happen still with Mzabalazo.
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This is reality BRA-MAFUTHA it is not a comedy, I am not persecuting you and I am not related to any Jew that is drunk on religion. I like the idea of engaging me but do not think that I will be decieved to be come a peddler of lies, based on Snow White and the 12 dwarfs( as m zaco beleives that the bible is)
Answer the questions that I have posted of prove me lost by exacly attending to the scriptures I have qouted and the hell issue you raised yourself. I have never seen a person who claims he want to help you, and yet avoid the very same things that creates a barrier between them and their trying to help. This is so unreal
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m'zaco'@mzabalazo
do you believe there is a GOD?
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Ubuzi ibhasi libhaliwe, what are you doing?
Why did you call me a fool? Was it not based on what you already know about me, m'zaco dear, you are wasting my time, patiently read all post and the answer wil glare at you and you will so embarrassed that you ever asked such an obvious thing.
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BRA-MAFUTHA
MzabalazoI have one question for you who do believe in??
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BRA-MAFUTHAMzabalazo
I have one question for you who do believe in??
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Old trick in the book, trying to divert from the base,
Can you first answer me this why Matthew and the Act do not aggree on who bou#ght the field of blood, why the field was named the field of blood, and how Judas died. ( this will be the Greek Aramiac scriptures known today as New testament)
The attend the Hebrew scriptures ( now called old testament) why does the II Kings been not in agreement with Jeremiah
Jeremiah 36:30
Therefore thus says the Lord concerning Jehoiakim king of Judah, he shall have none to sit on the throne of David.
II Kings 24:6
So Jehoiakim slept with his fathers and Jehoiachin his son reigned in his stead.
Then you can ask m'zaco' s question after you have answered my long over due argument/ discussion/ challenge which is not made up by Satan but it is from your bible which you want me to base my faith on
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Flemza
Do some traditional rituals instead of praying , how is praying going to help , this is not Israel , let us be Africans just for once and stop this carnage intead of stealing a tradition which is not oursReport Abuse
Mzabalazo
WordofGod@zaco
she must be having one...oh! sorry, it looks as if she is using the one with an upside down cross hence she is quoting scriptures that are twisted
@mzabalazo
will continue to pray for you. love you with the love of Christ ...wink
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@WordofGod
By all means keep on talking to yourself about me, that will not bother me, as long as you keep on avoiding the questions that can remove the barrier and think your magic powers from Chris, Ndeya, and the rest of the money makers will work on dear, then you are still asleep.
If you want to win me explain, make me understand, the scriptures in question, no magic will make the evidence I have posted varnish. Attend to these questions, and you know many more that I have posted before, and you went to pray and still I am what I am, why? You avoid to touch the subjects that bothers me in the bible and your faith, as long as you avoid them your magic will not work.
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she must be having one...oh! sorry, it looks as if she is using the one with an upside down cross hence she is quoting scriptures that are twisted
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Name callers and cowards prove to me and the rest of the bloggers that I am using the bible upside down , you cowards, prove me that Jeremiah and II Kings do not disaggree, prove to me that I ma wrong about the field of blood. You are worse than I ever thought, you lie in public and aftre that you claim Satan and people like me live in darkness, Pretenders, shine your light, rescure me by explaining the scriptures, at least you not even trying to explain them in your poor way, why because they caught you by suprise, you still need to phone your master liars to try rescue you from pure common sense. You are worse than what I thought you were, you cannot even stand for your faith with the only tool you have, you cannot even take an advantage of the fact that I am qouting the bible and try to draw me to what you call the light, you are failing because there is no light where you are, you keep on pretending and drawing weakminded people to your posionous snare, people who get impressed with your sad songs and threats of hell and when you me people like me you shiver because your blind pastors never warned that there are people out there who knows the bible far much better thean them. Go to your imaginary heaven and remain continuos sla#ves.
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Mzabalazo
All you cowards please qoute these scriptures I have posted correctly, show me how not to qoute them in a twisted way,com'on, qoute for us, we are waiting , make Jeremiah and II Kings agree, you have the magic power to do that, you have the holy spirit to help you do that, come I am waiting, after that make the story of the field of bllod un twisted, teach me and I am definately that there are some who will like you to do that. You ave been prayin for so long now, you cannot be unable to make untwist these scriptures, unless you do not know them. STOP the accussation just explain the scriptures, at least just try, God would not let you down , would he?Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
To all of you FAITHLESS internet Faith paradersYour faith is based on lies and cowardice you even call your own bible's scriptures twisted, you have no faith that always parade it on the internet, instead of defending your own bible you attack it and say it has twisted scriptures. Then where have you been basing your weak faith from? From advertising yourselves an the hlolier than though bloggers, who pray for those whom you undermine and think they have no knowlegde of the bible, and when you realise that they know much, you claim they need a prayer, when they insist on the truth you then paint tem satan, darkness and worse of all you avoid the disscussion and start name calling, what a tolerance you have you faithless internet faith paraders.
Your in your bible is as weak as your reasoning.
I rets my case, take care chat on the next post.
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m'zaco'@mzabalazo
There are angles and different experiences to a single event in life_ hence for the same event we have versions by Jesus's disciples...i sense no contradictions there_ They all point to Jesus's life and ministry...
The people your quote as your references to counter-argue the validity of the bible...have you researched on them...if maybe they could be having some dubious moralities/vendetta...just read about their crux of the objections.
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To be honest, I am not suppose to engage you on this level, but I will do you a favour, maybe you will become enlightened.
I have qouted Matthew and Acts on the issue of the field of blood, and I have deliberately avoided to qouting the verses, as I thought your zeal will make you page the bible and I realised that you are one of those Christians whose bible pages as new as they when your bible was bought, you do not bother to open it, you take everything that the confused lot, the likes of the WordofGod tells you.
Now get this: Matthew and the Acts are not qouted from any people who you claim to have been qouted, it is from the bible you never even attempt to open, The Jesus geneology is in Luke, Matthew Mark and a bit of a fictitious one in John. Instead of attending these simple qoutes, you start talking something not related to this topic as yet( as yet, because we would have got into that issue if you had the gut of addressing my question instead of calling me a fool). So you directly out of order, thanks to the stale sermon you heard last month that you are now throwing into this discussion and it is irrelevant. At least you tried, unlike your pastor WordofGod who uses guerrilla tactics.
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moralett
Good people, south african now is time to pray, the devil is taking control of us. Lets join together and pray. Satanism is trying to control this land South AfricaReport Abuse
Gaara
@MzabalazoYou are wasting your time with these people, the delusion is so deeply ingrained that logic is no longer factored into the thought process. I always asked myself how black people could be so foolish as to believe something that had to brought to them by the white man, ask a black christian when the first bible arrived in South Africa and they look at you with a blank stare.they fail to understand the implications of this book having been BROUGHT to this land.this omniscient,omnipresent god writes or inspires the writing of a book containing the most important msg in the world for all mankind, but decides to do it in a language that would soon die out therefore condemning us to rely on translations of copies of copies of copies of translations, give this book to a small group of desert tribesmen and charges them with the responsibility o spreading this msg to the rest of the world.This is the god that these people think will have the capacity to solve the worlds problems?so laughable.
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