Pointman

It will be good for the country if his words are translated into action. Start by getting rid of the endless appeals process. Also, if you want to be taken seriously, act like a principled leader and not like a delinquent.
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Kinggeezo

The previous presidents never had to deal with the ANCYL the way JZ is dealing with them @ the moment. Is it my eye or is there something seriously wrong with the SPEAR? Is this not the dictatorship the ANCYL is talking about?
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lindsay

Yeah oom Zoom you are getting really good at this intimidation staff are you sure you wanna remain in politics or go to the army
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guiliano

It seems Mr President that Mdluli is lacking discipline, would you mind to teach him a little discipline?
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MGEEZ

The ANC should be able to cleanse itself of wanton ill-discipline," he said to the sound of approving applause by the estimated 3500 delegates.
The president also cautioned against increasing levels of "corruption, abuse of power, careerism and patronage".
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JZ are you for real??? what else do you call what the truling patty is currently doing everywhere in this country in all spheres of government
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Wisdom2

There is only one President.Many people predicted the worst yesterday,what happened .,,,,,,,,,over 80% danced to Mushini wami .
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Flemza

Give Zuma a double Bells , ill-disciplined cadres must go , no room for them in the ANC , thank you , you have done that already to show how serious you are about discipline ( the ANCYL ill-disciplined leadership ) Once again thank you
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Makhosini0408

Party members are continuing with the status quo Sir, Maybe they are photo copies or rather factory faults of the original?
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MGEEZ

Makhosini0408
Party members are continuing with the status quo Sir, Maybe they are photo copies or rather factory faults of the original?
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Just made my day!!!!!Lol
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Uncompromising

What will an ANC conference be without ill-discipline ? Anyway, i`m waiting to hear how the liquor stores in Midrand ran out of booze just like the last conference in KZN ! The ill-discipline in party shall be fuelled by Johnny Walker and Verve !


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Shwee

The tone when he speaks says it all. The dictator, undemocratic and autocratic leader. Even kings do not speak like this.
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Makhosini0408

MGEEZ
Makhosini0408
Party members are continuing with the status quo Sir, Maybe they are photo copies or rather factory faults of the original?
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Just made my day!!!!!Lol
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Thanxs baba. Sometimes I think we like blaming others, but the others fingers are pointing back at us. It must be said and not that we are judging him, but is Zuma an epitome of discipline?
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MicaParis

Ill-discipline will exactly disappear in the ANC if the President of the ANC can be discipline himself, a real leader lead by example as such if the President can start every body will follow even Ronald Lamola!!
Alluta Continua to the following Comrades in Struggle Better Services+
Mommac, Mkhabayi, Dzel, Dandan, RobinH, Mgeez, Secretary, Morena wa Polelo, Makhosini0800 and of course yours truly MicaParis, for making meaningful contribution to the blog, we read and value your suggestions in the Presidency we are reading all this things we do not take you for granted but very serious. If I was the President half of my Cabinet will be like this+:
1. MommaC will be the Minister of Social Development since she has a heart and feelings for the poor and the marginalized.
2.Mkhabayi will be the Minister of International Relations since he understand Political Science and International Politics.
3.Dzel will be the Minister of Justice because of her good knowledge of the law and legal development.
4. RobinH will be the Minister of Police as he does not take nonsense!
5.Mgeez will be the Minister of Public Service and Administration because of his knowledge of how the Government operate.
6.Secretary will be the Minister in the Presidency due to his knowledge and understanding of the Local Politics, he is like my boss Collins Chabane hahahahah ayeee yee Secretary I know you hate him because you do not fall in Zuma's Camp hahahah!!
7. Morena wa Polelo will be my Minister of Defense because he is very matured and cool minded as such unlike Robin he will not take the Government by coup as a Senior General of Soldiers hahaha!
8. Makhosini will be the Minister of Communications as he is having a very good communication skill and understand almost all the stories, the brother must be a journalist or something.
The other Departments we will see which ANC Comrades are performing and we can slot them in like Comrade Dlamini Zuma can retain her Department but Ministers of Basic and Higher Education should be fired with immediate effect, replaced by both Cyril Ramaphosa and Thadi Modise they cannot be forgiven for the mess they have caused our children!!Edna Molewa, Tina Pieterson, Lulama Xhingwana and Susan Shabangu should also be fired as they are useless I do not even want to talk about Mthetwa and Baloyi they are extremely rotten and I am too smart to talk about them!! The Deputy President should be retained and President Jacob Zuma has been replaced by MicaParis as I work in the Presidency and understand the whereabouts here in Union Building I am telling you South Africa will be a better place even Bafana Bafana will start winning games ahahahaa!!

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Yapannete

Jz is now in control of the ANC contrary to some demagogoes.For those who things that they are in charge of the ANC branches shows them who is incharge:Zuma not kgalema or Malema.
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Makhosini0408

MicaParis
I accept the position in your cabinet. Minister of Communications, it is.
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MGEEZ

@MicaParis
LOL
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ncagumbuduma

Who will dare join Malema in the wilderness. ANC don't play.
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xhosagirl

If you can start by disciplining Angie Motshega, Castle Mathale and Dickson Masemola for Limpopo Education books saga first before u talk 2much
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1tsotsi

The speech that zuma Gave, was like his reading his own obituary..... That speechwas a Remix from the jan 8.
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ThirdEye

Well it seems everything that Zuma said it can be " interpreted" to mean something. Even though delegates seems determined to bring this clownish president back. I still maintain, that will be a sad day for South Africa.
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Bhekikhaya

Mr. President saying it is one thing, but implementation is the question to be answered, all I can say it must be consistant accross irrespective of the rank, we heard some of your Executive Members indirectly saying somethings that we believe are totally against the current policies of the movement, and seemed like they were ignored. CONSISTANCY Mr. President both within the party and Government Administration,
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ZuMantashe4Mangaung

After all he is the one that takes responsibility when the name of the ANC is tarnished. Every house has it's rules. Lead Msholozi Lead.
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mbondo

He should have said that when the ANCYL was insulting Thabo Mbeki.
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Aquia

Zuma wa tsofala or ke mahlo aka? hai mkhulu u really need a week off and get some sleep.
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ThrippleGee

Zuma even intimated that ill-disciplined members risked being expelled from the party. hahahahahaha this Zuma guy mean business neh
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Aquia

Zuma wa tsofala or ke mahlo aka? hai mkhulu u really need a week off and get some sleep, he looks tired.
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Senana

Zuma shower head, has got the audacity to tell people about discipline, it is very rich coming from the man from nkandla.
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Secretary

Guys Juju could not be wrong if we can carefully follow the dictation strategy of our womeniser. Everybody who suggests against Zuma,though in the limits of ANC,would be expelled. He is not debating with his opponents,he is threatning them.The whole president is threatning the youth.Any body who want to contest ANC presidency is called un-ANC and informed about existing DC.
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Lehido

The president also cautioned against increasing levels of "corruption, abuse of power, careerism and patronage".
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Really, Arent you shooting yourself in the foot here The Spear man?...because you are all that you mentioned here...
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Secretary

Mduli murdered and crossed sensitive limits of ANC and he was deployed,but Juju came with fresh ideas and he was given all assortments of uncalledfor names and expelled.
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Gstar1

Zuma is a power hungry dictator who thinks he owns the anc and we the youth league are tired of this man come mangaung we will see
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Rakgadi-Tabeya

Sowetan o qadile ka ho bloka di-comments tsa ka, ka nte ke eng???????
You are so content Mr Pres that I'm aware of shame - o itshepile ntate
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Pekelepeketonkana

I love my ANC and I still wanna put my vote for it but not nxt to this man pic "sorry" he can say whatever he wanna say to convince us but not this time. We need someone to replace him plzz... we've had enought ke yena.
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Tikoloshe

MicaParis

....HiHiHI order and discipline is restored to our Mzansi under our new President MicaParis!!!

"4. RobinH will be the Minister of Police as he does not take nonsense.."

Please our new General Robin Hood, phone Ezimvelo and capture all the hyenas for transportation to Umfolozi holding cells for further disciplining by the people of Mzansi!!!!
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KennyS

I dont understand this man Zuma and I never will. Everytime I listen to his speech my hair stands in fury. From what I read He is the ANC. He has become the ANC. Anyone who criticises him is critising the "ANC". I never unsderstood Malema when he said this man was a dictator however today he sounds more like Mugabe. Anyone with different views to his is threatened with discipline. This man has destroyed what my grandfather gave his life for. Mr Zuma Inever trusted you from from since Thabo's times. You were the evil behind everything that happened. You are calculating but I see right through you. You are the worst thing this country could have. You have destroyed the organisation. You are a curse to this land. I curse you.
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somaartakeit

I can't take zuma and his so called 'stern warnings' serious cause he is guilty of all that he is accusing the ancyl, I can understand (to a certain degree) why the youth behave the way they do, its part of growing up, what is zuma's, ace magushule and other illdisciplined anc leaders (elders) excuse?

Anyway you can't wish malema away as he is the symptoms of what is wrong about anc today under your MISleadership, so deal with it instead of feigning concern.
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Dzel

@MicaParis

Mommac, Mkhabayi, Dzel, Dandan, RobinH, Mgeez, Secretary, Morena wa Polelo, Makhosini0800 and of course yours truly MicaParis, for making meaningful contribution to the blog, we read and value your suggestions in the Presidency we are reading all this things we do not take you for granted but very serious. If I was the President half of my Cabinet will be like this+:

3.Dzel will be the Minister of Justice because of her good knowledge of the law and legal development.
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LOL .... but it is “his” not “hers”, just now people will think my name is Suzie and I bat for the other team.

Are you for real, this blog gets read by the office of the presidency?

I really hope so but more importantly I hope what is discussed here is taken seriously and informs debate at government level.

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Mphorozza

I love this organisation but under the leadership of JZ it is going down and we will never win by 6%% it will be even under 60%. Law abiding citizens of this country are not happy.
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somaartakeit

ps. Zuma here's the deal, I will start to be disciplined when you also become a disciplined citizen lead by examples boss don't tell us to do this and you and your cabinet do the opposite of that, for now we will be ill-disciplined till our leaders learn to be disciplined, mind you I have not even started with the shower stance and f*cking around without a condom and outside wedlock and making stray babies, you are way ahead of me on the ill-disciplined stakes zuma.
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somaartakeit

@Dzel I haven't got a doubt in my mind that the cabinet ministers are reading this, if you have been paying attention to their attempts at hijacking malema's issues, even now zuma is trying to be as popular as malema he has started making comments like 'we will start with radical economic changes' on M&G yesterday, as I've said, mantashe speaks about anc regaining/losing credibility these are the issues discussed the most in almost all SAn social media/forums,
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somaartakeit

@Aquia
Zuma wa tsofala or ke mahlo aka?
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Too much sex izakugugisela umzimba my friend, you must watch when a man cums he makes strange facial expressions, now imagine if you have to do this all days of the week and side dishes outside your marriage life, your face has no time to rest hence lamehlo...lol
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Dzel

somaartakeit,

@Dzel I haven't got a doubt in my mind that the cabinet ministers are reading this, if you have been paying attention to their attempts at hijacking malema's issues
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I know the ANCYL has agent provocateur scanning these pages and trying to influence readers, that RealAfricanDemocrat is clearly an ANCYL agent.

Supporters of Zuma have also tired to infiltrate the forum but they are weak in political content. Mbalula has tried to use the platform to push his agenda but the response has not been what he hopes for.

If indeed Zuma and his cronies read these boards they should resign given low levels of support and low approval rates but then again resigning is a foreign concept to SA politicians and coaches. Kumele ube nenkani and have someone forcefully remove you before barging.


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Nombongo

@ Somaar...Zuma stealing the Youth League policies is just not on. Prior to the conference Eastern Cape was divided in supporting the second transition and his second term. But from the look of things, they have changed their stance. It's second term for him guys. SAD INDEED!
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somaartakeit

@Dzel, the anc is not markatable anymore shame cause they've lost any credibility they might have had, as for Mbalula did you know his department is trying to get Beyonce to come perform in SA at a cool 17mil? Mbalula is unAfrican, cause his and mine culture (Xhosa) clearly states that 'charity begins at home' Mbalula prefers American artists to the locals, but he wants SAn votes and does not campaign in the USA for votes, the young blacks of SA must know if they vote these self loathing uncle toms they will always be slaves, cause these uncle toms don't even know how to use our resources effectively, by investing it on our ppl so they one day could be delivered from bondages of poverty.

I agree anc ppl are weak politically content wise all their existence in the anc taught them sloganeering and chanting outdated songs, you must see them gloating about the past (of the anc) which they had no contribution to, the anc was able to shine as a revolution movement cause back then it had leaders who inspired ppl with hope and mapped a way forward with their vision, this lot shame what a poor shadow of its former self (anc)
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somaartakeit

@Nombongo, you know sana don't lose hope just yet, cause he can steal the policies but he still has not plan, strategy or vision on how to implement them, its like these tenderpreneurs who are getting gov tenders who steal others business plan put forward with view to be afforded a tender, you can't steal someone else dream and make it your own, your parents cant' dream for you or on your behalf,

And when he gets a second term, then its good news for opposition parties cause many black ppl who don't want to the anc to loot in their name will simply seek alternatives, the power is at the ballots not at anc conferences,
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Dzel

@Nombongo

...Zuma stealing the Youth League policies is just not on. Prior to the conference Eastern Cape was divided in supporting the second transition and his second term. But from the look of things, they have changed their stance. It's second term for him guys. SAD INDEED!
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If they do elect him for a second term then sit back and watch the backlash.

Many people who vote for the ANC are tired of Zuma even the staunchest of supporters. People who used to defending the party with their soul; are now admitting the party is on the wrong path and things cannot continue on this aimless path.

Add to that e-tolling which the party seems to be backtracking on and you have an electorate of whom a significant portion will be adopting the ABZ voting strategy, Anything But Zuma. I will do my best to influence whomever I can not to vote for the ANC, we cannot sit back and watch our country going down the drain in a similar fashion as the ANC has.

If the ANC wants to see if it will rule until Jesus comes let them re-elect Zuma and the until Jesus comes part will turn into until Zuma is re-elected president of the ANC. We can't be held hostage by decisions taken at ANC conferences made by people who do not have the interests of the party at heart.


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Winilen

@MicaParis
The points you make are true & I can tell they come from a very intellectual person..
But for all that to become a reality one day, SAn presidents need to surrender themselves with good advisers just like you put it we need people who understand the department they are managing...
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somaartakeit

Exactly Dzel, Zuma has no substance inasfaras leadership goes, many though they needed 5yrs to figure this obvious out, they now know it,

its clear to everyone that zuma admin has nothing to amuse us with anymore now that the song and dance has become a yawn, he is hijacking public discourse and trying to fuse it in as anc policies, it is still hilarious though how majority blacks who claim to be educated had allowed themselves to be hassled by a guy with no formal education, i now believe that our education is poorly in deed.
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WakeUpSouthAfrica

http://mg.co.za/cartoon/2012-06-27-anc-policy-conference/
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007.JAMES.BOND

THE ANCYL WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG. THE SHOWERHEAD IS A DICTATOR.
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Lehido

mxm
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somaartakeit

@James Bond, there's soon going to be a movie called Diktator please don't miss it, it reminded me so much of zuma when I watched it.
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MicaParis

Dzel
@MicaParis

Mommac, Mkhabayi, Dzel, Dandan, RobinH, Mgeez, Secretary, Morena wa Polelo, Makhosini0800 and of course yours truly MicaParis, for making meaningful contribution to the blog, we read and value your suggestions in the Presidency we are reading all this things we do not take you for granted but very serious. If I was the President half of my Cabinet will be like this+:

3.Dzel will be the Minister of Justice because of her good knowledge of the law and legal development.
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LOL .... but it is “his” not “hers”, just now people will think my name is Suzie and I bat for the other team.

Are you for real, this blog gets read by the office of the presidency?

I really hope so but more importantly I hope what is discussed here is taken seriously and informs debate at government level.
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Let me tell you a secrete Zuma spend most of the time watching his back at list 95% of his time, he operate through, Collins, Jeff, Gwede, Nathi and Nxesi or Sdumo as we know within our circle if one of those Comrades say something we know is actually the President who said it. My job as one of Senior Administrators is to read your comments and analyse particularly legal social media releases as my core function in the ANC if you are not sure follow my comments you will see, even now I still repeat that Jimmy Manyi's contract will not be renewed and Richard Mdluli still do his job but this time underground Rheya Phiyega will be offloaded immediately after Mangaung or even before if things can get hot! mark my words and follow if I am lying!! In short Comrade Dzel Zuma knows everything and has allies in all the newspapers of South Africa! For your information we know all your real names on the blog as we track you through a domain network of your Company and Government Department, all the institutions are registered with Telcom and ICASA, we track you through optic cables which enable us to monitor all international and national optic nerve messages which is the source of internet and through Vodacom and MTN for those who are using 3G and broadband!! The information is classified as state security threats and non state security threats so all the media fraternity fall under non threats because your comments does not affect state security unlike when Malema talk to Mathale or Tokyo or Mbalula and Phosa something that we pick up as soon as possible!! So rest assured Zuma knows everything and all Government Telephone line can be monitored 24 hours through recording or live audio visual. In the Presidency there is no secrete when you talk on the phone we hear everything you say live or by pressing certain buttons and we bug all the cellphones! the arrangement of which is done with vodacom or Mtn as a classified state top secrete! We can intrude every firewall as licences which are foreign cannot be approved by our intelligence sources to work in our country, we managed and are firmly in control of all software entering the country which are regulated in terms of Global blocking domain server and Local blocking main sever. So I am not just ANC lawyer but a very intelligence based cadre, give me a bells all this at the age of 34, It is not easy to work with the President you must be very smart and intelligent and our computer passwords always changes after 30 minutes the Presidency is a very dangerous department even countries like China and USA always want to hack into our system haha enough!! Watch what you say but is not a threat to state!!
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ancnduntsu

@Flemza
Give Zuma a double Bells , ill-disciplined cadres must go , no room for them in the ANC , thank you , you have done that already to show how serious you are about discipline ( the ANCYL ill-disciplined leadership ) Once again thank you
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Then there will be no ANC if that is implemented.
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ancnduntsu

Shower-head is suffering from selective amnseia. He ascended the throne with his foot soldiers using ill discpline tactics.
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bizoro

@MicaParis,

hey lady dont come here and try to threaten us coz we aint scared of ur sheet and ur president

as u claim to be working there how did u get ur job , by sleeping with some top guys and are you those people who are failing this country by misguiding Zuma to be this incompetent.

And what is ur job, read our blogs, wow so ur job description is INTERNET SURFING, wow very nice job gel.

So as u claim to know our real names, so who am I (bizoro) tell me and all this bloggers to know i have nothing to hide so go on tell me.
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Its not a lie, we are sick and tired of Zuma & his government including you and if He wins in mangaung i am going to Australia, Yes i am black & Proud but hayikhona ngamasimba lawenu niwenzayo apho kulo ofisi yenu.

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Mphorozza

@Dzel
@bzoro
@somaartakeit

there is only one way to bring the ANC to its senses and it is not to vote for it in 2014 and JZ will realise that we are not what he thinks we are, he is taking us for granted with his cronnies, RECs, PEC;s and even at branch level. I cant wait
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bizoro

Mphoroza, ja chief i think that is the best to do, haykhona another 5 years with shower (Mr Pavoli)

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