hulas

Disgrace to your family,limpopo,absa,mr price and all south africans.
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maneater

this story depresses me, how i celebrated when he won and now this! but i beleive in this guy and i am sure he is going to clear his name.
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dadaman1

The minute i saw you talking to Mphela during that week at Sunnyside i knew something bad will come out of this race...
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truthhurt

Jealous, Jealous, jealous some people cant stand it when other people achieve good things in life.

Ludi drugs or no drugs you did well.
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Keafixa

i smell a lot of jealousy.....i think the results have been tempered with
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DjEp

Is it becuase he is black? is it becuase he is from Limpopo?
Would they have done the same if he was a foreigner? Ludwig welcome to enjoy South Africa.
"A black man is always a suspect"
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Raven

Mr Mamabolo, i so hope you are telling the truth fan coz i celebrated with you for days. i mean - it does not make sence not at all. i hope your name gets cleared as really - it is despresing to even think about it..
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ApelMankotsana

The Russians have been winning the marathon on number of occasions and no tests were done and now this......
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longest1

innocent until proven guilty, you did well. no matter the outcome, i am proud of you bra!!
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Pekelepeketonkana

I don't what to say except disappointment. Let's hope something went wrong with your tests.*very sad*
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Mapholobakay1

Lets hope for the best.

@hulas
Innocent until proven guilty. Yehlisa umoya.
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mbaliwe

3 months unpaid leave for training and then take stimulants, doesnt make sense indeed. Its either the tests were tempered with, or the guy was supplied with this drug by the people on the sides giving runners iced water and the likes....i dont believe this man.Truth will come out anyway...
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MySunshine

So disapponted and sad, Im behind you 100% Mamabolo
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Chambo

Let just hope the B sample will come negative. These news are really disturbing
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Pekelepeketonkana

Just a correction there *I don't know what to say*
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sarmologadi

I think jealousy is playing a big role here bcauz he is ------ lol, i hope u will be found innocent hommie...
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jeepcherokee

First it was Caster, now this poor Ludwick guy. Hmmmmmm. Lets wait and see.
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Kuch

Now that it's a black south african from limpopo...they'll come up with all tricks in the world to strip him of his championship.......
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Gusheshe

Innocent until proven guilty so i say gudluck man and hope you telling the truth and i kno some idiots are just waiting to find fault in our beutiful province and jealousy is the cause of all this.
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MommaC

They have only been testing for methylhexaneamine for two years now and it has been a nightmare. They cannot tell how much of the stuff was taken and some ingredients in sports drinks show as metabolites even though they are NOT performance enhancers.

WADA need to get their act together before the Olympics or this test is going to cause complete havoc.
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DjEp

Mr Mamabolo just remember even if you had used the drug, it also takes determination, stamina and focus to win the race. you were not the only one having taken something to boost your body. if we can take samples in all runners we will find some traces of some other drugs in every blood sample, so what did they realy expect you to run 89km without anything to help you? even a car will need fuel, oil, water and maybe a turbo to drive that distance.
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Pointman

I was at Dischem 3 weeks before the comrades buying food replacement for a sick person. The sales assistant was explaining to a distraught lady athlete that they had run out of her favourite supplement - "The comrades is almost here and people have been stocking up". Wonder what is in those supplements. Don't think the athletes in front eat pap and beef and go running - it takes more than that. If you as an ordinary joe started taking those supplements you too will see an improvement in stamina.
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DJWinner

ha ha ha ha.....I told people that I can run faster than this guy. Where is monarchies now? That madafcuker was attacking me left right centre, whe is he now?
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briella

another athlete tested positive for another banned substance- his or her name has not be released to the media. This drug-free SA saw it fit to name and shame Ludi. I smell racism here.
Look at what happened to Caster???
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

They say supplements and energy drinks contain the banned substance so @Mamabolo let us assume this is what happened in your case and you did not "knowingly" take the enhancing substance.

Sh!t if the allegations are true, I hope you did not spend the R300k you won............. not only are you going to be disgraced, stripped off your medal but you are also going to be sued (for repayment).....
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smokie

They must leave him alone this guy was helped by ZCC tea Indayela these white mugus are jealous of black man.
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Raven

@Truth and Kea - my thots exctly, ppl are trying to destry him fan and they are tempering with the blood samples.. jelaz
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mathopeed

@DjEp
Is it becuase he is black? is it becuase he is from Limpopo?
Would they have done the same if he was a foreigner? Ludwig welcome to enjoy South Africa.
"A black man is always a suspect
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It also pains me bra too coz Russians hav been winning it for sometimes but no tests were done at all. Just look on Caster semenya's saga, and this now. Lets hope and pray that all is well, cz it will be an embarrassment if found guilty.
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dimpho_4U

eish nam' i'm disappointed...3 mnths no pay...waking up @ 5am to train, now this!! could it be the same case as Semenya..jealous and fabrication of lies??!
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

It is not the first time @Mamabolo has competed in the Comrandes

2010 - came 2nd- no drugs in sample
2011- came 7th place - no drugs in sample
2012- WINNER - drugs in sample

Im not a believer of conspiracy theories but something does not add up.................... The organisation said they have had problems with the bannesd susbtance for the past 2 years but they have never done anything about it (where any measures put in place). Mamabolo I hope you are not the "fall guy"


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hazey

Hai for some reason I don't think that this is true. Batho ba Limpopo ba nale bati shem why do they have to be questioned every time they win a competition. First it was Caster now ke Mr Mamabolo
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

Comrandes should be COMRADES


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DJ_MONAKZEN011

It's really heartbreaking and shocking............But i think tat Bongumusa Mthembu
bewitched the poor guy *Don't trust Nzulus*.....Just saying !
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Blackstone.lebs

He may provide a witness to the opening of the B-sample to ensure that it has not been tampered with."
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Sounds more like a formality. Can the witness really "ensure" that it hasn't been tampered with? If sample B is a portion of sample A what stops them from tampering with it before its divided? unless if athletes also provide witnesses to the opening of the A sample.
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Raven

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
It is not the first time @Mamabolo has competed in the Comrandes

2010 - came 2nd- no drugs in sample
2011- came 7th place - no drugs in sample
2012- WINNER - drugs in sample

Im not a believer of conspiracy theories but something does not add up.................... The organisation said they have had problems with the bannesd susbtance for the past 2 years but they have never done anything about it (where any measures put in place). Mamabolo I hope you are not the "fall guy"
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so true.. i mean - now that he has won, drugs are running left right and center.....


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MD1

AI AI AI..here we go again !!! Its people like you will remain ignorant the rest of your life !!!!! yes DjEp..Im referring to you !!!!! Your comment "Is it becuase he is black?"..what has colour got to do with this whole situation ?????? Shame !!!! Maybe oneday there is hope for people like you !!!!!
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Turfloop

ApelMankotsana do you understand what probability sampling mean?
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BrothaX

Few things come to my mind
1. lack of information on our athletes and lack of creating awareness around unlawful elements by ASA
2. Lack of disclosure by the manufacturers of these energy stimulants. There is a lot available over the counter and 99% of Comrades runners use all sorts of gels and tables without any awareness of what is contained in the ingredients.

Ludwick needs to tell them what he used during the race and depending on that he might get away. Another thing the test should clearly indicate the % of the banned element in the test.
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DJ_MONAKZEN011

Ke bo.na bol.oi felo moo !
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Shaangrito

"I didn't take any banned substances," Mamabolo said.
i believe you bra!!

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MommaC

Blackstone.lebs

The sample is divided into two bottles. Both of those bottles are placed in tamper proof containers (marked A and B with the same serial number). I can assure you, we have tested the Berlinger sets completely and there is no way to tamper with the samples.
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MissBhakajuju

I also smell a big jealous here, so a b.l.a.ck South African doesnt deserve anything good.

We're all behind you Mamabolo 100%
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Turfloop

Forget about being black, coming from Limpopo, not being a Russian. At least 22 samples were taken from 22 different athletes after the race and Mamabolo as a champion is the one who is in the news. The other 21 also know of their results but since they are not winners it is not important for us to know. Mr Price Club has experienced officials who should inform their athletes to refrain from certain energy drinks or medication. Remember Moeneeb Joseph and Shaun Bartlett were also accused of doping? The results found out that the banned substance was from their Asthma medication. What about Arthur Zwane of Chiefs, Chilliboy and Bjorn of the Blue Bulls, Gert Thys, the list is endless but random testing is done in all sporting codes.
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hlakolr

The guy has been on top 10 more than once , he knows the procedure , he made so much sacrifies , for his sake and all of us i hope its not true , i hope and pray its sabbotage , dissapointed 4 days
Muzhingu must be happy whereever he is
Why are further tests been done in Germany ?Dont we have the resources in our country?
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Mas-culin

We can't really judge until the 2nd test is done.

masculinnkosi@gmail.com
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SharpSharp

Tests of all athlets should be reveal whetehr positive or negative....Sissss...Why not tested positive in 2010 after running nearly the same minutes and get 2nd position...akgaaa.... this is boring...
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Desh2Desh

Its a crime in SA for a Blackman to be successful,,,,,,,,,,Mr Mamabolo if you are found not guilty please ensure that you sue those M***F**K 100 times that price! guilty or not guity mina I support you,,they've corrupted our minds for to long its our turn to do it economically.
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malemaforpresident

Mara makgowa ke mareete feela maan this people are full of jelousy for black people remember what happened to caster semenya for her achievement and they came with their fcken rotten stories mooer
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Turfloop

It is not a crime to be black but rather not to understand procedures. When are you people going to understand the realities and stop using race or colour everytime things don't favour you. Le a bora!!!
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Nkasegobotsesephirise

I hope they are not correct because all the glory will be taken away Mamabolo,our province reputation will also b at stake! But I cannot trust a thing this days everything is possible.
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MommaC

hlakolr

For international testing, the tests are done in accredited laboratories (we have one in Bloem) and the tests are not done in the country they were taken in nor in the country that the athlete comes from. It is all part of the process to make sure that it is tamper proof.
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Blackstone.lebs

@MommaC
Blackstone.lebs

The sample is divided into two bottles. Both of those bottles are placed in tamper proof containers (marked A and B with the same serial number). I can assure you, we have tested the Berlinger sets completely and there is no way to tamper with the samples
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Thanks for the info. I take it that the sample bottles are placed in these containers in the presence of the athlete.
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zamba

they were supposed to do the test before the race, why they waited for him to win the race and do drug test? lets hope B-sample will come negative.
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DIKENKENG

i fully agree with Apel.i am still proud of him(Mamabolo)
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MommaC

Oh for crying in a bucket people. The tests are triple blind. There is no way on gods green earth that they knew he was a black man or even where he came from. All that is on the form is the medications that were taken, the gender and the bottle numbers. There is no information on the form about the athlete.

Jirrie jus! you people have some massive narcissus issues
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ThirdEye

I hope for you sake you did no wrong, all the best.
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Lehido

I smell a rat.......
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DjEp

Ludwig has a trend, he once came 2nd without any traces that means he is capable.
All i can say is jelousy and he was not the favourite horse for the day and so no one bet on him.
@MD1 for the past 7years foreigners won the tittle and there was nothing fishy suddenly our own wins they suspect foul play. If it was not drugs they would have said "he used bol oi"
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Turfloop

Zamba do you think if samples were taken before the race it would be different? Yes because whatever Mamabolo would have taken would not have been metabolised, so there would be no need to test. Simply meaning if you drink beer or whisky or wine and are tested immediately the results will favour you.

MommaC thanks for enlightening those who are in the dark.
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MommaC

Blackstone.lebs

Yes. It is all very controlled.
The athlete and the doping official both have to keep watch on the sample but ONLY the athlete ever touches the sample until it is firmly sealed. He gets a choice of at least 3 sets of containers and they are all sealed in tamper proof bags. Once he has chosen the set, he then divides the sample into each bottle and closes it. He is then asked to check that it is sealed to his satisfaction and to make any statements on the form if he is not satisfied. Only then does the doping control official test the PH and Sg of the little bit of remaining sample in the collection vessel.

This is a process which is used world wide and it has been tested in courts as well as in the field. Believe me, the sampling and testing are completely secure.
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chipshot

ja hne. worst part of it would be to return the R300K back.....eish
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MommaC

zamba

Not all of the athletes are tested (it is bloody expensive). Before the race, the race officials draw numbers out of a hat or are given random numbers generated by a computer. That will say that (for example) the person in 1st, 5th and 8th place will be tested. Normally first is tested but not always. The same goes for pre-testing. Racing drivers are tested for alcohol. Normally that is also done by draw and is random. Difference is that the draw is according to placing on the grid and not on final outcome

You can't test before the race as you don't know what position they will come in at
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Letsopa

After all celebration now this....Le rata dihlare le lena Mamabolo....Now fro hereo to Zero...I hope this not true...please find the closure soon
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MissBhakajuju

the water they give them to drink, just after they won is where they put all the substances, someone once hinted this but I didn't

believe her, but now I do, also when you're excited you don't notice who gives you a hug, kiss or bj, Mamabolo is innocent.








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MommaC

MissBhakajuju

The water is in sealed units and you have a choice of which unit you take.
Your conspiracy theories have ALL been tried in various countries and in various court rooms. The doping control measures ensure that the athlete's rights are kept so that it is impossible for them to wiggle out of it.
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madamx

I also hope this is just some kind of a mistake.

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DjEp

@MommaC thanks for the information. hope there was nothing fishy with Mr Mamabolo
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ma-ra-go-a-no-ga

Mamabolo said he would prefer to reserve his comment as he had yet to be officially charged by the anti-doping organisation. "I haven't heard anything official, I haven't received a letter, it's just a rumour that is going around," he said.
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DJWinner

@MissBhakajuju...How will he get drugs if someone is giving him a bj? ha ha ha...uyahlanya wena..
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MommaC

DjEp

I can almost guarantee that the procedure was correct and could not be tampered with.
This test for methylhexaneamine has caused trouble world wide since they started testing for it. A lot of the federations have lobbied to have it taken off of the testing list but, with the new cheater drugs coming in, that is unlikely.
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abmma90

This man worked very hard to win the comrades I know him from a personal level we trained together when he started running. I think people must stop judging him based on this first tests. Mamabolo you are my Hero I will support you all they way, I know you a fighter positive or nagative be strong do not listen to the un-patriotic people because you are a role model your critics will dissappointed. Viva Comrade(friend)!!!!

MM Mogane
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Bino

I believe that Luwdick Mamabolo is innocent. He has been in the top 10 twice already,he knows the procedure,he knows he will be tested. Why quit your job to go humiliate yourself,wife more over go put your family name to shame.

I don't believe he did anything wrong.something is very fishy and it's definitely not Ludwick Mamabolo
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Gusheshe

@MissBhakajuju

Hehe u are an interesting woman you kno can sum1 test positive for banned substance for kissing or giving sum1 a BJ ? Lol ai im sure u dnt even know what a BJ is do u?
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DjEp

@MommaC
That is why we have different bloggers like you to share knowledge, i know fu ckall in this testing procedures.
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@Turfloop
It is not a crime to be black but rather not to understand procedures. When are you people going to understand the realities and stop using race or colour everytime things don't favour you. Le a bora!!!
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Thank you


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MissBhakajuju

@Gusheshe

what I'm saying, is that during excessive excitement, you wouldn't remember who said or did what.
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MommaC

DjEp
:) I used to be a doping control official for IDTM and for WADA.
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MommaC

On a side note, this is the same substance that the two rugby players tested positive for. It turned out that it was the geranium oil in the liniment they used.
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RatWhore2

just bcos he is black, they went done all sorts of tests, yet if it were white foreigners, nothing wud hav been done. south africa and its laws against blacks, it beats me really.
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DJWinner

MissBhakajuju
@Gusheshe

what I'm saying, is that during excessive excitement, you wouldn't remember who said or did what.
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No matter how excited I am, I will remember who gave me a bj? BJ is one of those things that don't happen everyday.
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Zezinho

People people!!!! It is not like he took cocaine or smoked ganja. Two spoons of flu medication is sufficient for positive results. And if you take two redbulls it will be enough because those contains banned substances.

Lets wait for the B Sample before jumping up and down and Mamabolo to defend the results.
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DJ_MONAKZEN011

It's a shame ka our limpopo,if he won a witchcraft award there was no one who is going to
bother with sum ugly tests..........God please help us !
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tpaz

He smoke nya.ope....

Sample B is opened in your presence....

I suggest they also test before the race
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malemaforpresident

And when they[whities] the likes of Zola Budd and Bruce Fordyce win they are not conducting any tests let them fkof this is our black brother mamabolo dont care what they manipulate know that you are our hero ur in the book of history this people are full of jelous mooer
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MommaC

malemaforpresident
Oh stop crying in your coffee. They have both been tested locally and by the international federations and they have been tested both in competition and out of competition.

THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE LABORATORY TO KNOW THE COLOUR OF THE ATHLETE
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Gusheshe

@DJWinner
Leave her alone pls she doesnt kno wat BJ stand for so ill make sure she does.

@MissBhakajuju

Are u trying to say that Mamabolo could have been given that banned system while he was busy celebrating and unaware by a hug or in water as u said? No man that cant happen babes.
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MissBhakajuju

@DJWinner

LOL... okey ke, but you won't remember the poems you've said, while getting a Bj, due to the excito, and some of them

mite get back @ you, in the Bj session, you mite have declared that all your personal belongings, be given to the Bjer. see ?
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DJ_MONAKZEN011

MommaC
malemaforpresident
Oh stop crying in your coffee. They have both been tested locally and by the international federations and they have been tested both in competition and out of competition.

THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE LABORATORY TO KNOW THE COLOUR OF THE ATHLETE
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Mommac,I'm not with u on tat one....why they didn't conduct their test in public ?
What if it was tampered with ?
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Zezinho

malemaforpresident ! Lance Amstrong and the Paradis guy lost their Tour de France due to doping.
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MommaC

DJ_MONAKZEN011

The test consists of peeeing in a cup. It is not the type of thing you do in public.

There is no way to tamper with the sample.
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DJ_MONAKZEN011

MommaC
DJ_MONAKZEN011

The test consists of peeeing in a cup. It is not the type of thing you do in public.

There is no way to tamper with the sample.
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I do understand ,as per your comment u are agree with the authorities ?Where's
Sir RobinH by te way ?
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@DJWinner

MissBhakajuju
@Gusheshe

what I'm saying, is that during excessive excitement, you wouldn't remember who said or did what.
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No matter how excited I am, I will remember who gave me a bj? BJ is one of those things that don't happen everyday.
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LOL! For you it will be a momentous occassion.....................
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malemaforpresident

Zezinho
malemaforpresident ! Lance Amstrong and the Paradis guy lost their Tour de France due to doping.
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thats a drop in an Ocean remember how they humiliated our sister Caster and especial because she is from rural Limpopo and now Mamabolo again from Rural Limpopo i certainly smell the rat this is too much i am convinced that the test is out of jelousy and are tempered with
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@MommaC
malemaforpresident
Oh stop crying in your coffee. They have both been tested locally and by the international federations and they have been tested both in competition and out of competition.

THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE LABORATORY TO KNOW THE COLOUR OF THE ATHLETE
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Maybe they know something we dont......... "black" urine/bl.ood is different from those of other races *SMH*



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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@MommaC
malemaforpresident
Oh stop crying in your coffee. They have both been tested locally and by the international federations and they have been tested both in competition and out of competition.

THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE LABORATORY TO KNOW THE COLOUR OF THE ATHLETE
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Maybe they know something we dont......... "black" urine/bl.ood is different from those of other races *SMH*
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because they regard us as babooons and they regard themselves as humans this people have stolen our land and now they want to steal our talent tshek

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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@malemaforpresident

Caster's case is different from Mamabolo's. Hers was a gender issue-hemaphrodite (sp) and she had tetesterone (which is normally high in men) in abundance and not a doping issue.

If ASA (Leonard Chuene) had been forthcoming from the beginning Caster would have been spared the humiliation. ASA's Drs warned Chuene et al before the fateful tournament about Caster "gender" but they were more interested in medals.........

Please can we stop using the race card.............. and debate on merit
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@malemaforpresident

Your determine your own happiness/destiny........... a person cannot make you feel inferior without your permission.
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DjEp

@MommaC
what if sample B tests negative?
has it happened in the past during your lab days that sample A was positive and B was negative?
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srombie

i do not believe this nonsense..why did he take 3 months unpaid leave if he knew he was going to use drugs???
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Stumaeza

jealous all the way VIVA MR MAMABOLO VIVA...

Was he tested before the race & what about the water given to them during the race and after...maybe he was given that substance after winning the race who knows. I dnt have a problem returning their medal but the R300 000.00 NOPE!
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DJWinner

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@DJWinner

MissBhakajuju
@Gusheshe

what I'm saying, is that during excessive excitement, you wouldn't remember who said or did what.
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No matter how excited I am, I will remember who gave me a bj? BJ is one of those things that don't happen everyday.
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LOL! For you it will be a momentous occassion.....................
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You and I can make it happen? What do you say? ha ha ha...
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Sasafrican

Oh boy,Ludwick baba you have sacrificed so much,im behind you 110%
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MommaC

Let me try and explain the in competition doping control system for runners

Once the race has started, there is a draw to find out which positions will be tested. The doping control officials are then advised which POSITION will be tested (e.g. the 1'st, 3rd, 6th and 8th - or whatever). The minute that the athlete in that position crosses the finish line, the doping control official notifies the athlete and then keeps the athlete in their sight until the test is completed.

Normally the athlete will go directly to the doping control station and they may take along a representative (normally the coach or manager) as well as a translator if needed. At the doping control station there are bottles of water available. All of the water is commercial bottled water which is SEALED and any bottles with broken seals are discarded. The athlete has a choice of any bottle he wishes - so that there can be no chance of spiking the bottle despite it being sealed.

When the athlete feels that he can 'give' a sample, the athlete is given a choice of specially sealed containers. He then chooses one of them, checks the tamper proof seal and opens it. The doping control official and the athlete then go to the toilet where the athlete gives a sample of 70ml. The athlete then carries the sample back to the doping control station.

At the table, the sample is left in sight of both the doping control official and the athlete but away from any traffic (nobody other than the doping control official, the athlete and the athlete's representative/translator is allowed near the table). The athlete than chooses one set from a SELECTION of doping control containers. He is asked to check the tamper proof seal on the set and open the tamper proof seal to take out the two sample bottles. He is asked to check the sample bottles and he may (if he wishes) rinse out the bottles with a NEWLY OPENED bottle of water chosen from the selection. The ATHLETE then puts 30ml of sample into one bottle (B) and 40ml into the other bottle (A) - leaving a few drops in the collection container. The athlete then SEALS the bottles and is asked to check them to ensure he is happy that they are completely sealed and cannot be opened.

The doping control officer now touches the sample containers for the first time. The officer checks the seals to make sure that they are completely closed and then does a PH and specific gravity test on the few drops left in the collection container (that is simply to make sure it is possible to test the sample properly)

The forms are filled in.
The top two forms go to the doping control organisation, the third form goes to the athlete and the bottom form goes to the laboratory. The top three forms contain the name, address, gender, age, quantity of urine collected, PH and Sg of the urine, list of medications and supplements that the athlete has taken and any comments the athlete has about the doping control process (e.g. if anything was not to his satisfaction). It is then signed by the doping control officer, the athlete and the athlete's representative (if any). The bottom form contains ONLY the bottle numbers, quantity, Sg, PH and the medications / supplements. NO OTHER INFORMATION IS ON THE LAB FORM

The lab form and the sample are sent to an accredited laboratory and the top two forms are sent to the doping control agency. Only once the laboratory results are given to the agency does anyone know WHO the athlete was that was tested as, up to that stage, the bottle numbers are the only reference. If the sample is positive then the local authority (ASA) is informed and given the second form along with a copy of the laboratory report. The athlete and/or a representative is then invited to go to open the B bottle. The B bottle is opened in front of the athlete or their representative and tested in front of the athlete or their representative. An inquiry is then held

Now PLEASE tell me how a sample could be tampered with ?????

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LadyGy

keep that positive mind brother God is with you on dis rubbish thy're talking abt
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MommaC

DjEp

I have never heard of the B sample testing differently to the A sample but, according to the handbook, the whole test will then be considered null and void and a full inquiry will take place to determine how that could happen.
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BiPolar

@DjEp
Is it becuase he is black? is it becuase he is from Limpopo?
Would they have done the same if he was a foreigner? Ludwig welcome to enjoy South Africa.
"A black man is always a suspect"
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I think it is because he is from Limpopo: First, it was Caster Semenya - when she ran her lungs out and beat the best runners in the world - she was subjected to Gender Tests!! (some said she is a man/intersex) etc. when all she or her family knew was that she is female!! Now it is Ludwick, he made us proud but now subjected to drug tests!! People must come to terms with being outclassed by limpopo people....We are committed, dedicated and passionate people in what we do!! From the tracks to the office to business to school!!
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RatWhore2

in the first place, who came up with this whole drug testing nonsensE. how do we know that, the tests are accurate nd correct
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MO-FIRE

@Keafixa
i smell a lot of jealousy.....i think the results have been tempered with
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I agree with you 110% bra, sothing is fishing here.Ludwig must fight this to the bitter end.If found not guilty he must sue whoever came with this bullshit scam for deformation of character.
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@DJWinner
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@DJWinner

MissBhakajuju
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LOL! For you it will be a momentous occassion.....................
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You and I can make it happen? What do you say? ha ha ha
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Thanx friend I will pass......... but I hope you get lucky
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Msiphos00

Don't worry boss if you are clean nobody can take your title away from you.

Remember in 1995 Helman Mkhalele played for Orlando Pirates in the CAF Champions League and a team in Swaziland called "Eleven Men in Flight" complained that he smoked "d.agga" or something coz it is impossible according to them that he could run that fast on the field and he passed the test.
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MommaC

RatWhore2

Good grief! What a name to chose for yourself !!!!!
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DJWinner

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@DJWinner
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@DJWinner

MissBhakajuju
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LOL! For you it will be a momentous occassion.....................
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You and I can make it happen? What do you say? ha ha ha
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Thanx friend I will pass......... but I hope you get lucky
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Come now, why are you being so difficult? You do know that the friend must benefit. No benefits, nothing?
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BiPolar

@RatWhore2

What a name!!! that is the height of creativity in naming oneself!! LMAO


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Serenade

A south African born black man is always a suspect eg Ludwig Mamabolo and a foreigner is always an angel eg Stephen Muzhingi, one day we will chase them away and their white bosses will cry their eyes.

Before you issue those results you should have done some investigation. What about if the chemistry of that organic compound took place in his digestive system? did you see him taking that sh#t compound?

I think I must ask God why most white people ha???te black people or maybe God does not like black people.
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CYBORICO

@BiPolar
@DjEp
Is it becuase he is black? is it becuase he is from Limpopo?
Would they have done the same if he was a foreigner? Ludwig welcome to enjoy South Africa.
"A black man is always a suspect"
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I think it is because he is from Limpopo: First, it was Caster Semenya - when she ran her lungs out and beat the best runners in the world - she was subjected to Gender Tests!! (some said she is a man/intersex) etc. when all she or her family knew was that she is female!! Now it is Ludwick, he made us proud but now subjected to drug tests!! People must come to terms with being outclassed by limpopo people....We are committed, dedicated and passionate people in what we do!!

true indeed, very pationate in cleaning out the gorvenment coffers aswell,
we better wait for the b sample results before the Juju nation starts crying foul play, these drugs r sometime contained in foods that are otherwise not known to contain them, to maintaine his innosence even if striped the tittle he should provide them with the source of the drug(food or legal drinks that he took unkowingly)
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Molemushi

No wonder he looked so relax cheaters mxm......
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mzansifinest

Bravo baba you know the devil cant just stop and shut his mouth, jealousy.......... God is on your side keep on praying. Well done I am proud of you no matter what?
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kulula

I am very disappointed and have no hope that the result will somehow be different form the original. I guess athlets know which drugs are forbidden in any of the activities they engage in. Eish I this upset me, NXA
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Serenade

hope a company that owns comrade marathon will deal with this professionally - do extensive investigation and show us proof, South Africa black people are being vistimised left and right and some are depicted with their genetals hanging.
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DJ_MONAKZEN011

This news makes me to vomit with shock !
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BopCat

I hope ga o na molato Morena Mamabolo and this matter has nothing to do with him being black, he's not the first black person to win a race and definitely not this one, all winners of official races are subjected to doping tests. It's just that no reports of negative tests are made public.
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DJ_MONAKZEN011

My period pains are back thanx to the so-called doping agency !
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

A lot of articles have comments blocked........ I wonder what is going to happen when the Mvelaphanda / Avusa deal goes through
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CYBORICO

@DJ_MONAKZEN011
This news makes me to vomit with shock !

i think its ignorence that shocks u, not the news, anyone can finish the comrades, but only those in line with the competition rules can claim prizes and acknowledgement of finishing the sporting event, otherwise the rest of us do it for other reasons, like i can snort coke and run the comrades just to prove to amagenge that i can do it, if i come first in that attempt i should not suddenly want money for it coz i know what catalist i used.
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Karabz

Well, if Ludwick confirms he's guilty, let him get tested again *smh*
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Skopokopo

Its bad after we celebrated so much!! i remember years back, the twins who ran and won a certain marathon here in Mzansi, after few days they were caught as cheaters. The other one ran certain kilos and the next took over and ran to the finishing line. After few day when videos were played they were busted with their watches, the other one wore a watch on the right and the other one the left and their snickers were not the same. Mzansi For Sure!!!
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malemaforpresident

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@malemaforpresident
Your determine your own happiness/destiny........... a person cannot make you feel inferior without your permission.
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No wonder why we got countless mental hospitals in this country you flying without wings? huh being robbed in the name of scientific reseach by small banch of silly whities you watched that man on tv he worked very hard for all those hours yet sit around the corner then come with evil fabrications moooer
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CYBORICO

@Skopokopo
yeah right remember those two, good plan but executed it like Tjatjarag
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CYBORICO

@malemaforpresident
I say gor for it mate, with how u look at things. u will make a gud president, its just going to be hard to get u your subjects or a country to run.
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Serenade

Skopokopo
Its bad after we celebrated so much!! i remember years back, the twins who ran and won a certain marathon here in Mzansi, after few days they were caught as cheaters. The other one ran certain kilos and the next took over and ran to the finishing line. After few day when videos were played they were busted with their watches, the other one wore a watch on the right and the other one the left and their snickers were not the same. Mzansi For Sure!!!
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Thorough investigation was done on that incident, I watched it several times on tv and read about it on print media. we do not have full account of what to ludwick maybe some have.

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BiPolar

@CYBORICO
@BiPolar
@DjEp
Is it becuase he is black? is it becuase he is from Limpopo?
Would they have done the same if he was a foreigner? Ludwig welcome to enjoy South Africa.
"A black man is always a suspect"
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I think it is because he is from Limpopo: First, it was Caster Semenya - when she ran her lungs out and beat the best runners in the world - she was subjected to Gender Tests!! (some said she is a man/intersex) etc. when all she or her family knew was that she is female!! Now it is Ludwick, he made us proud but now subjected to drug tests!! People must come to terms with being outclassed by limpopo people....We are committed, dedicated and passionate people in what we do!!

true indeed, very pationate in cleaning out the gorvenment coffers aswell,
we better wait for the b sample results before the Juju nation starts crying foul play, these drugs r sometime contained in foods that are otherwise not known to contain them, to maintaine his innosence even if striped the tittle he should provide them with the source of the drug(food or legal drinks that he took unkowingly)
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lol@juju nationa and cleaning the government coffers as well. You are right - we excel in everything we do - good or bad!!
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Papage

When do you take the urine samples? emidiately after the race, when the guy is dam tired, after having taken all the drinks offered to him by anybody on the road or before the race? I drink lot of Red Bulls, Powerrates each time i run a race and to my knowledge, they are stimulants, what is wrong with that?
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BopCat

I wonder what's going to happen should Gordon get the coaching job, it's likely to be "ja because Steve is black he didn't get the job" and if otherwise it's going to be "Steve deserves this job". I really don't understand what we want. Rules are rules and should apply to everyone, whether black, white or any other race. Since Ludwick is a professional runner I take it he knows them too.
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BiPolar

Funny enough the Russian Elena Nuglieva has not been tested - but we saw her drinking (probably special energy boosters) which can give her advantage over other athletes. What do those special drinks contain? why no one is bothered? But the poor limpopo man has to be Drug-tested because it is his firt time winning! Or are foreigners not subjected to drug-testing?
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BopCat

It's a pity we can't ask her but what little information I have is that the top 10 winners of official races are tested and only reports of those tested positive are made public. When Chilliboy and Bjorn were also caught, I don't think they were the only two tested but only their results were made public. The Lance Armstrongs have also been tested and apparently his skeletons are also coming out of his closet.
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TBOZ08

Ya innocent unti found guilty

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DJ_MONAKZEN011

Zooomer got sumthing do to with this ...that guy hates other Comrades !
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malcolm1

my broer , the only sport you can enhance without getting tested is sex,sex,sex and sex only
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diboalebowa

ya man! Batho ba Limpopo ba mo molabeng os shoro. When they rise up, some people become their stumbling block
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MommaC

BopCat

Even the athletes are not told if their tests were negative. The B sample is simply destroyed and the paperwork filed.
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maftowncity

@MommaC
You are right bro about that procedure,that exactly what happens,i couldnt have said it better than that, am disappointed about the latest developments, i was happy that Mr Mamabolo made us proud, and yes lets see what happens....aish..aish
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Bra_NeatDick

eeeeiiiiisssshhhhh NYAOP E!!!!!!
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Ragas

firstly it was Caster Semenya, now is Mamabola why is it that when people from Limpopo progress in sports there are always issues, please leave Limpopo alone.
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LeparaThePresident

@MommaC

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There are many ways of contaminating samples* first the can be injected by using a syringe that can pierce through the bottle if its not glass and reseal it when pulled out.,*secondly, the glasswares/plasticwares the use can be buffered by the said substance/chemical that would only react with the sample when poured into it.*thirdly, the container of the sample can be fused through apparatus that contains vapour of the sample,* The apparatus used can also be laced with the said substance. The are many ways of contaminating sample while testing it. And lastly the condition of the apparatus can be questioned as to when was it callibrated.

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BopCat

Isn't Mbulaeni Mulaudzi from Limpopo? I don't see the argument about Limpopo people being treated differently? Ezekiel Sepeng was banned a few years back, what was it for kana? This has nothing to do with Limpopo but everything to do with the rules. Just by the way, Marion Jones ena ke sure wasn't from Limpopo, neither was Ben Johnson. I think the only problem is because some of our athletes don't have coaches and doctors they don't know what substances to stay away especially those that might contain banned substances.
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malemaforpresident

Maybe when someone is running the body automatically is generating or procuce methylhexaneamine substance.


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MommaC

LeparaThePresident

It is a shatterproof glass container. Look up Berlinger test kit and you will see for yourself. It has been tested by the best and most devious minds in the world. If you think you could tamper with it, go for it.

You have never worked in an accredited laboratory - I presume. The tests are done using disposable modulars.
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MommaC

malemaforpresident
Maybe when someone is running the body automatically is generating or procuce methylhexaneamine substance

LOL
Not unless your mother diddled a geranium plant.
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007.JAMES.BOND

This is madness. The poor guy is innocent. Where in Limpopo can u find banned substances? The only drug found in Limpopo is mbangi (dagga) ntsena.
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Turfloop

LeparaThePresident when you analyse samples using biomarkers you do not test the substance itself but a bi-product. There is noway that if a certain chemical substance is injected it could turn into a bi-product, it is only through metabolism/detoxification by the liver.
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mathopeed

Le wena Ludwick dont fool us while knowing very well that you used those unbannd staff. Just confess if you did mn and stop playn us, but if you not, we will support you all the way homeboy. Some ppl dont wanna see others rising to the occassion. we love you in Limpopo if not in SA
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Turfloop

Mathopeed if it is unbanned what is the problem? You make me laugh!
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DaTruth

They is no story here MXM, which means every one will test positive for this drug because u get it in energy drinks. So u and your redbull is on the drug,

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"Methylhexaneamine has been one of those ubiquitous substances that some athletes have been testing positive for over the last two years. It is starting to become [prevalent] in sports supplements and certain energy drinks."
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LeparaThePresident

@MommaC
LeparaThePresident

It is a shatterproof glass container. Look up Berlinger test kit and you will see for yourself. It has been tested by the best and most devious minds in the world. If you think you could tamper with it, go for it.

You have never worked in an accredited laboratory - I presume. The tests are done using disposable modulars.
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If you u say so,Mommac,>.I was just addressing the contamination scenario. I do not work in the lab but i did Chemistry in details i mean until Chem 411.
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LeparaThePresident

@Turfloop
LeparaThePresident when you analyse samples using biomarkers you do not test the substance itself but a bi-product. There is noway that if a certain chemical substance is injected it could turn into a bi-product, it is only through metabolism/detoxification by the liver.
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Now i know Turfloop.
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MommaC

LeparaThePresident

To the best of my knowledge, they still use HPLC so the sample gets placed into a gel and analysed by the machine. The gel is then discarded along with the plastic pipettes used. The chances of a contamination in the laboratory are about a million to one.
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LeparaThePresident

@MommaC
LeparaThePresident

To the best of my knowledge, they still use HPLC so the sample gets placed into a gel and analysed by the machine. The gel is then discarded along with the plastic pipettes used. The chances of a contamination in the laboratory are about a million to one
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Then Mommac my brother the callibration contamination can be questioned.Am off now mu brother thanks for the insight you highlited, you and Turfloop.
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MMETLE

mxm u hv embarrsd us wena monna mamabolo,even thou u uncle says he bilieve u ddnt but they cnt just say u did use dt things,we were proud about you espcily limpopo,i wsh dey can give u 20 years suspension
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MommaC

LeparaThePresident

The equipment is re-calibrated on a regular basis using world wide ring trials. That is how they maintain their accreditation
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BopCat

@LeparathePresident
You see when the apparatus was calibrated should not really be an issue but rather how it's handled after calibration, and besides labs have ways to validate and verify their methods and results. They can't just make a conclusion based on one sample measure. With bodies like SANAS seeing to it that accredited labs comply, I don't see how.

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Turfloop

Thanks for the free education! I know Sowetan is copying some of these and they will be using them as theirs.

Sowetan beware of intellectual property and copyright.
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mtringo

well someone knew that he was giving ludwick this medication with a stimulant in it. I just wish they had not done it at this point in his life where he wins the most prestigious marathon in SA. I think we should leave the rest to the experts

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MommaC

Turfloop

All the information is in the public domain and can be sourced through the WADA websiite.
I would hope that the journalists do check up on what is going on as they can help our athletes to be educated on this so they are able to protect themselves and know their rights.
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MyPot

Nyadzanga Magoro shows the bite on her hand from the pigs Photo by Mzamani Mathye

THEY are huge, hairy and always wanting something to eat. And they bite anyone who stands between them and food.
A tribe of aggressive pigs has invaded Muledzhi-Ngovhela Village in Venda, Limpopo.
According to residents, they have bitten six people.


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MyPot

i am a Zwulu and i am proud xame.......Limpopo people and their stories
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Mbeva

Mamabolo took three months unpaid leave. Now he runs 89km for nothing,Sad indeed.At least he appeared on TV
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taba-e-kana

This thing of testing these athletes is stupid...they should develop a system where the candidates are testes just prior to the race...I mean really ...it cuases kaka when they do it afterwards....
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Nickerball

It's got nothing to do with race! The second guy is also black and also South African. Or is mamabola more black than the second guy? Idiots! So if he gets disqualified it will still be a black South African winning. Stop blaming everything that goes wrong on the colour of his skin. Personally I don't feel sorry for him. He is just ignorant. As it's not the first time he raced in the comrades - don't tell me he did not know the rules. I am sure they will have a published list of banned substances. They all use these performance enhancing drugs hoping they won't get caught in a random testing or if they do - they can always use the race card to get away with it! As for him being from Limpopo - blame his ignorance on his ANC Minister of education - since it's obvious there was no decent education involved here!
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Nickerball

As to Caster Semenya - Honestly. She looks like a man, sounds like a man because she's got the testostorone of a man! Would you have like it if your daughter had to compete in a school race against her? I would have made a big fuss as it's unfair to the other athletes. Once again - nothing to do with her being from Limpopo or with her being black. I would have still been upset if it was a white "girl" from Parys competing against my child.
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MommaC

taba-e-kana

Now what would be the purpose of taking a performance enhancer BEFORE the race? It is during the race that the extra energy is required. Testing them before they have taken the substance or before it has been metabolised is an exercise in money and time wasting
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