MorenaWaPolelo

Lip Service indeed comrade TMG will never fool us, l mut say l admire your opportunistic nature even though as always you timing is wrong Sir. Comrade TMG we do not need a leader with money no your characteristics so you must sit down and listen to us!!!! We do not need you !!!!
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maneater

i do not like Tokyo but i have to give it to him is brave taking on the spear like that. i have grown tired of the silence from Motlanthe.
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Nestum

I'm so disappointed by Tokyo's remarks. He wont b able to lead dis country. In fact he is like Zuma himself. How can u attack yo president like dat bcz de r channels where dis ANC MPs can raised their concerns. Tokyo 2 years back if nt mistaken, he took millions from KZN Housing bcos it was nt used. If u a gud lead how can u do dat when ppl dont hv houses. H wz suppose to lead by an example and make sure that doz who didnt perfom got fired and get ppl who can do work and build houses for KZN ppl, not to take money.



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truthhurt

Lalela Baba!

I dedicate this one to Msholozi!

Listen im all alone in the cross raod, im not at home in my own home, but i try and try to say whats on my mind, you should have known...
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Mmmooohooo

Mvela is dowm, where is mvela league. People bayaphanda, this time baphanda i presidency. Shame on you mr ambitious. JZ 4-2 TERM
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Makeleketla

What took you so long Mr. Sexwale?
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mambaaai

Well Said! Tokyo.... "a better life for all" is a given for any politician trying to run the country. But seems some politicians dont listen but rather try and convince themselves and the people "they know what they are doing" the people cry....but it falls on deaf ears...the people suffer but money gets spent on irrelevant stuff....and so on and so on
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Mmmooohooo

We now know who FED malema with dictatorship tendencies. Try next door TK maybe you will cope.
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ApelMankotsana

Zuma le yena o a tena....He has proposed what he referred to as the " second transition" as a policy to be debated in two weeks time during the policy conference. What stikes me a lot about this " second transition" is that in all the previous policy documents and the ANC policies dating backfrom the Freedom Charter, there was nothing referred to as the "first trnasition". When did the "first transition ? What were its underlying principles ? Have we achived all what is contained in the first trnasition....I will not have any problem if it is referred to as the era of economic revolution which s well documented in the ANC policy documents.
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tpaz

The gloves are off......
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OomGreat

"There is a time to lead and there is a time to go."

Straight-forward.
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Ann

hehehe, Tokyo u could have fooled me sir but i respect you for your bravery to stand up against JZ
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DjEp

Shame, Sexwale! we dont need opportunists we need leaders. Tokyo you are no were close to being a leader or to say the least to lead this country, if i were to choose between you and Zuma i will definitely go for Zuma
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Mbhuduma

It goes without saying that JZ is the worst president the ANC has ever had. In Polokwane, TS and his comrades turned a blind eye on his lack of vision. It seems like they thought being in power will turn him into good leader. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. So please stop making noise.
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sakhomba

I think JZ did enough listening to the snakes around him. he is right to suppress the "new ideas" because they did him no good since the time leading to his ascension to the top.
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k'onana

The gloves are off......but there are no heads as yet....

Who is decent in that cesspit called ANC?.......
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Pointman

Is he just an opportunist who has wants to exploit the weakness of Zuma or is he a principled leader who will restore the ANC's standing. I think the former - why has he not criticised Zuma's relentless trampling of our democracy and reckless behaviour up to now. No doubt he has secured the backing quietly of some NEC members which is why he is taking tentative jabs at Zuma.
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PleaseGetReal1

Divided we shall fall, anc motto for the future.
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1tsotsi

I doubt if Zuma can sit down and listen, he has no listening skills. His a coward, he Ran away on youth day.
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somaartakeit

there shouldn't be this discussion in the first place, if zuma stuck by his original position, that he will only serve one term, understandably when he said that, ppl within his party made (succession) plans and planned their careers around this, so really there is nothing to discuss further zuma must just stand down, cause if its only his province backing him, that alone should compel him to stand down, but zuma is always going to be a black stain in our history, thanks anc for that.
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BaleliM

The time has come for JZ to go.
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Stumtum

Some people are made to lead some to follow.Please Mr Sexwale follow the leaders.
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somaartakeit

@Ann
hehehe, Tokyo u could have fooled me sir but i respect you for your bravery to stand up against JZ
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IF zuma was a democrat, it should not have to boil down to bravery when ppl have to express most obvious and simple things which are taken for granted in a democratic environment, the president shouldn't have to be reminded to listen to the ppl if he was a proper leader, cause one of the MAIN skills for a leader is ability to LISTEN and from LISTEN then he makes INFORMED decisions. Zuma is just a disgrace how he was considered a leader in the first place and blacken our history boggles the mind.

I also think that zuma only wants to be a president so he can dangle his spear for our expense, I can't stop wondering how many wives he wld have married at the end of his his term/s if gets second term and what cost will that be to tax payers?
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MommaC

Does Tokyo have the balls to stand up to Cosatu and SACP?
Does Tokyo have the strength to unite the 'factions'?
Does Tokyo have clean enough hands to root out the ones who are only there to 'eat'?

Leadership is not about popularity. Leaders should be chosen for what they can DO for us.
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lindsay

i agree with Tokyo Zuma should just disappear but i don't think Tokyo should stand too.
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Charley4sure

The matter of fact is that Zuma must go finish and klaar.
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Secretary

I donot care who is gona be the next president,but Zuma must go now.
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Dandan

The NEC took a decision not to review Malemas decision in that regard it was sealed and archived. It is also reported that the NEC majority was against Malema, the fnal nail was made by Nkosazana Dlamini by confirming death certificate while Nomvula Nkonyana chired the funeral
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mbondo

Ja South African politics stinks , a lot of these guys were scared of Thabo Mbeki and Gedleyihlekisa Zuma took him on by the horns and won. These cowards are now popping out like mashrooms attacking and insulting this Zuma who happened to be uneducated himself. By his behaviour and his second term plan , opportunists and drug pushers are taking advantage of this situation. Zuma should not run for the second term.
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somaartakeit

@Mbodo so because as you put it 'they were afraid of Mbeki and only Zuma' was prepared to take Mbeki on, does this mean they now should let Zuma destroy this country and anc?
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somaartakeit

@Dandan you are missing the point, Malema is not a national issue nor was he an MP the issue here is that zuma has proven to be unfit as a leader even some in the anc like Mantashe can see that the anc is in crisis, something which if they had a vision they should have seen in the plkn madness, zuma was then never a leadership material, so what did they expect wld change in since?
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Lehido

My question is "is he for real or is he just another politician pushing his name and agendas?".....

I kinda support some of his sentiments, and its high time that someone takes Zuma ON.......
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1tsotsi

Dandan
The NEC took a decision not to review Malemas decision in that regard it was sealed and archived. It is also reported that the NEC majority was against Malema, the fnal nail was made by Nkosazana Dlamini by confirming death certificate while Nomvula Nkonyana chired the funeral
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This has nothing to do with President Malema, but to do you zumas lack of listening skills and leadership. Why are you obsessed with Malema, zumas day is coming thick and fast. Jacob is not a good leader, he is a coward, why did he Ran away from Youth day in EC? His a traditionalist, polygamist and a chief dictator.
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Hadebe

Tokyo is giving Zuma a leap towards re-election unwiitingly.
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Asinamali

So is true that zuma is dictator,he does not want to listen to other people,i hope ANC will never make mistake again and give him and mantashe positions,they must come back an ordinary member from mangaung and we re open rape and corruptions cases.
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NDA

ABT
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RatWhore2

but this anc of our time, always fighting among each other.the other opposition parties must be having a jol seeing birds of the same feather fighting and calling each other names. i thought the anc was supposed to be a family and stand side by side and fight for each other's rihgts, not fight amongst each other.s t u p i d tokyo tryna get attention.sir, u shud sit down nd listen, u were given a chance as the minister of housing and u failed dismally, so don't come here with yo tendenc!es
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somaartakeit

Eish Asinamale the communists have fused into the anc and are eating and eating and eating and overeating just look at blade and mantashe.
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Bebesocs

Tokyo you have been quiet all along why come out now? Tokyo you were part of the ANC when they gave the country Zuma as the president, why did you deceive the country by giving them an illiterate? You are also a dictator because you form part of what ANC is today. You people it is now that you are preaching about our past leaders you should be ashamed of yourselves because they never did what you are doing. Look at that Motshekga Angie when she insulted the people of Eastern Cape together with Surty. Its too late now, why were you quiet Tokyo?
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somaartakeit

@bebesocs, I disagree that Tokyo deceived the country by being part of those who gave us an illiterate for president, everyone knew zuma's profile, but majority SAns have no listening skills or have short memory span and or blind following what 's put in front of them by their so called leaders, when we rid ourselves of fanaticism politics and engage our brains when choosing leaders we will avoid mistakes like zumalema which serves to tarnish our struggle for liberation credentials, we also need to have enough brain capacity to know that leaders are not always right, hence we always have to re-evaluate them.
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NDA

Lets see what the spear is going to do he will replace him or fire him.
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Nohandouts1

Me thinks Tokyo iis an ambitious and dangerous leader. I think it is you Comrade Tokyo who needs to sit down and listen. You have failed in all ministries you have run. You slept ( for 3hours) in Diepsloot and promised change and nothing happened. YOU ARE DESTABILISING THE ANC big time with you money. I speak for my self and many others we will not Vote for U Comrade so just SHUT UP.
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somaartakeit

@Nohandouts1 to be fair, Tokyo was a premier in GP under Madiba term, he was okay guy and no corruption was linked to him (personally) after that he fell off the radar and came back as minister of housing, well it will take more than 5yrs to get that dept in order and enable it to deliver services, so that can't be blamed on Tokyo alone,

You say he spent a night in Diepsloot, it seems to be trend cause zuma also took a ride and complained about public transport as if this public transport has been better any point in time, and did you know instead of sacking Sbu Ndebele minister of shambolic public transport he redeployed him? That against point failure on his judgement, therefore he shouldn't be a president, never-mind sitting down or anything else Tokyo charges him with, he has failed, he reshuffled his cabinet 3 times in 5yrs thus disrupting services in those clusters, he lacks good judgement so he simply shouldn't be a president, let us be brave and correct this mistake. That's not to say I'd vote Tokyo for president, the guys has made enough money through tenderpreneuring, so he also must sit down.
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Bebesocs

@ somaartakeit I agree with you the nation still need to be educated about voting system. South Africa needs fast resuscitation.
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MorenaWaPolelo

NDA
NDA
Lets see what the spear is going to do he will replace him or fire him
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Zuma is not going to fire TMG, because the more TMG speaks there more people are resolving to support Zuma instead of this opportunistic comrade!!! So he is campaining for Msholozi, Spear, Mshini, Showara, Baby oil, Jay Z, what ever you call him the second term is his!!!!
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Tikoloshe

.....WOW Madikizela and JuJu's puppy dog is barking very loudly!!!

I've always said that mothlante does not have any leadership qualities....even since 2002 as SG of our Party and this is now coming to manifest itself in this leadership struggle and he is to blame for the current leadership crisis in the Party. Cometh the hour gonneth the man he has always been.

Sexwale is an opportunist who made himself fabulously wealthy on the back of BBBEE legislation and he has no problem riding past poor people in one of his many Maybachs.....he just happened to be at the right place at the right time to make himself famous...the ki.lling of Cme Hani.

Ramaphosa is the only leader in Mzansi who can restore political dignity to our country. I agree JZ must go but we can't hand our Party to political opportunists. My prediction is that the ANC will split down tribal lines very shortly because all minority groups have fled the Party and the party has morphed into an UmZulu cultural club...
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Mbongo

There is one person that must not lead this organisation, and his name is Tokyo Sexwale. This man is opportunistic and over ambitious. I may not agree with President Zuma in other issues but not to be replaced by this man. ANC have tried and tested leaders like Mr Motlante, Mr Ramaphosa, Mr Mantashe etc not you. The day when the ANC is headed by you will be the day this organisation goes down to the dustbin of history. That you cry so much for the death of Comrade Chris does not suggest that you will be the President of this country. You have brought anarchy in the ANC by supporting ill discipline within the organisation.
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Hail

Thank you sir, someone has to say it somewhere anyway, is not that you undermining your President but someone has to tell him to listen. What happen to consultation because it seems that is every man for himself, dog eats dog. You cannot lead and keep on walking not checking your followers to see if you are in the same pace, keep on doing introspection to see if you are keeping their interest. Most of the time people are scared of change but it depend on what kind of change it is and not to be scared of taking risks if it means saving the the existence of the ANC. Like an eagle it is high time for the ANC to choose life over death by going up the highest mountain and pull its long feathers that hinder it to fly, to beat its long grown beak on the rock in order to get a fresh new one and to beat the long nails on the rock in order to have a fresh new one to enable them to work and give a good service to people. It is not going to be easy and is going to be painful too. So like an Eagle it is up to you ANC to whether you choose life or death and the vultures are circulating over your head so the ball is in your court.
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Tikoloshe

ApelMankotsana

"Zuma le yena o a tena....He has proposed what he referred to as the " second transition" as a policy to be debated in two weeks time during the policy conference...."

We can talk about as many policy documents as possible. but as long as the top 6 NEC memebrs sit and swabble for access to the resources of the State it won't solve anything.

The economy need TO GROW at 7% per anumn to address the unemployment problems, but the ANC wants to control the existing economic structures in place and in some instances disposses minority groups who also happen to have South African passports and are citizens of the State.

The ANC needs to deregulate the economy, address land ownership issues in traditionally tribal areas and create a labour environment where Companies feel comfortable to employ people again. They should be eternally endeared to the 5 million people who make it possible, through their skills and hard work, for them to live the lavish lifestyles they do and to ensure that 13 million people are support through a grant structure which keeps them in power.

.......No other counrty in Africa has the grant suppport structure we have,let alone are Public Servants paid!!!! Ask Swaziland!!
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sabza007

Let the games begin. Why does the ANC NEC opt to allow succession debate in October whereas others are canvassing openly for JZ to be re-elected???? October is too far. Give them Tokyo. The terrosits (Mantashe and Buti Manamela) were canvassing for Zuma in Limpopo over the weekend. Buti Manamela even criticized Motlantle.
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malemaforpresident

Mantashe must also sit down and listen to the voice of the young people ANCYL viva juju viva we will nationalise the mineral wealth of this country we will take back our land without compensation we must share the wealth of our country down with thieves down 90% of the wealth of this country is in the hands of the minorities while black poor majority are suffering this imbalances must be corrected one way or another
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ntshware-ke-yawa

tjo,those were strong words Mr Sexwale
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Fred55

Zuma must go! He is bad for this country and for the ANC. He divides the ANC and the country and that is how he rules.

I would prefer Cyril Ramaphosa to Tokyo but if he won't stand I will take Tokyo.

The top six in the ANC must all go.

If Zuma is not voted out at Mangaung, the opposition will get stronger. Educated, middle class people will move from the ANC.
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OntheMountain

It is time fr ANC members to guard against opportunists and hypocrites to want presidency at all cost. A presidential material does not go around attacking other members of the organisation for narrow agendas. A presidential material does not support ill-discipline because he/she wants to be the president. A presidential material address fundamental issues facing the organisation and the country not petty squabbles. It is time for ANC members to resist manipulation by people posturing as benign when we know they want presidency at all cost.
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swona

I like it when Motlanthe, Tokyo, Mathew and Cyril do not mention Mbeki's name when talking about the former heads of states!
Zuma must jump or pushed! he does not have to reach his destination! we need people with brains not big heads to run this country, and who ever will be elected, must make sure, Zuma and Malema are out of precious party!
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RatWhore2

ai, this govt of today, i still say the apartheid govt was 10 times better than this one, at least they did not fight nd insult each other in public.black people, it goes to show that u did not fight for democracy, but to empower nd enrich individuals not the people who voted u into power. the ANC is a disgrace and has made itself a laughing stock to other opposition parties. the most dominating factor in this quarrel inside the ANC is "greed", as soon as our leaders admit that they are greedy, the better. will not be voting in the next elections.i'd rather vote for DA than vote for the 'quarreled party".
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Tikoloshe

malemaforpresident

"Mantashe must also sit down and listen to the voice of the young people ANCYL..."

Malema does not represent the voice of young people nor that of the ANC...he is the voice of a few criminals in Limpopo who through tender irregularities and gross theft of Public funds needs to be arrested as soon as possible..

.....if anyone read the PWC report on his involvement in the theft of Public funds in Limpopo they'd agree he should be sitting in a cell somewhere without bail...the man is a criminal!!!
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medimedi

Zuma should go to jail where he belongs
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PhantomLimb

All talk and no substance, everything the ANC has come to represent over the past 4 years. The ANC was taken over by a bunch of thugs in 2008 and as long as those thugs are still running the organization this country is doomed. Zuma or no Zuma
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Secretary

The angry man must go
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MommaC

To be honest, the whole of the top layer of the political strata in SA should 'sit down and listen'. They have become so used to their blue light chauffeur driven cars, their high walled security homes and their pampered lives that they have no clue what is happening in the country.
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The-Rothschilds

The ANC is going down.

Money & power has twisted the minds of the liberators.

The ANC is nothing more than a gangster organisation.

Somebody with guts and brains needs to start a socialist political party before its too late!!!!
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Makhosini0408

You are on your way out, Mr Sexwale. Sham you spoke out too late.
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Deredeemed

Ayeye....Sekushubile Manje
@truthhurt,,,,,,Kwaaaaaaa!
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Andrew5

Are there problems or division within the ANC? I seriously think there are
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OntheMountain

We do not want another Zuma. In terms of substance and leardership ability there is very little difference between Tokyo and Zuma. I urge people to pause and think about the future of this country. Let our judgement not be clouded by our desire to remove Zuma and settle for anything but Zuma. This is the mistake that haopen in Polokoane when the desire to remove Mbeki at all cost clouded people's judgement - and we ended up with Zuma. The anything but Zuma approach is a dangerous approach that must be fought at all cost. We have capable and tested leaders like Nkosazana Zuma, Cyril Ramaphosa, Lindiwe Sisulu, Kgalema Motlanthe, why settle for second best - like we did we Zuma. Is it because of the politics of factioninalism that we want to settle for a man like Tokyo. Tokyo himself must also acknowledge that he does not have the depth and vision to lead this country. The sooner he accept that the better for everyone.
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ndhandhazi

TOKYO AND MONTLANTE speak as if they are opposition parties. SEXWALE fails to create jobs on housing projects nationally. Construction is suppose to assist emerging youth engineers. he failed.
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cornelius

Tokyo wants this presidency, and he wants it badly. Never trust such an ambitious person. Mothlanthe is the man - in the old tradition of those who don't ask to lead, but are asked.
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Nkasegobotsesephirise

Tokyo go and fool yourself!

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ndhandhazi

It seems Tokyo has resigned long ago from the ANC NEC. When things go wrong you point at Zuma , but when you launch houses you praise yourself, opportunistic. we are now educted about your style.
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ancnduntsu

Woza Mangaung!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who will be the last man standing???????????????????????
Why are the "comrades" fighting amongst each other.??? I thought the "enemy"(MBEKI) was long gone.
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ancnduntsu

Iinyembezi zikaMBEKI ngekhe ziwele phantsi. Niyakubulala nibulale de nibulalane. Kusezonyiwa kule ANC!!!!!!!!!!
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Sepoko21

Well said Tokyo you got it all right. But unfortunately you are not a good candidate for me for the presidency. Just stay home with your BBBEE monies & enjoy them. We sure need some1 with economic knowledge & with a good leadership skill. You are busy failing as the minister of human settlement, how do you expect to run a country. PLEASE STOP CAMPAIGNING & DO YOUR JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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StylesP

Nolubabalo girl ukwi deep sh**t trust me!!!!!!
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Trynik

Power mangoers Tokyo had his term to govern Gauteng, what will he do better to run for Presidency... I would rather settle for Zuma being the President of this country again.
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eKapa

ancnduntsu
Iinyembezi zikaMBEKI ngekhe ziwele phantsi. Niyakubulala nibulale de nibulalane. Kusezonyiwa kule ANC!!!!!!!!!!
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hahahha...
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eKapa

StylesP
Nolubabalo girl ukwi deep sh**t trust m
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wrong article bru..

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eKapa

8 Days in September..


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OntheMountain

Most of South Africa's youth do not want either Jacob Zuma or Tokyo Sexwale as president of the country, according to a survey released on Monday.

Respondents who correctly identified Sexwale's profession were asked who they would prefer as president of South Africa, Zuma or Sexwale. Sixty four percent of respondents rejected both choices," insights company Pondering Panda said in a statement.

The survey was conducted among 4673 South Africans over the age of 18 and across all demographic groups last week.

It found that only 57 percent of the respondents knew that Sexwale, who is minister of human settlements, was a politician or a businessman.

"Eighteen percent thought he was a football player, 12 percent a comedian, and six percent said he was a judge."

When the respondents who could identify Zuma and Sexwale were asked who they would want as president, 19 percent of respondents said Zuma, who is currently South African president.

Seventeen percent opted for Sexwale -- who is reported to have presidential ambitions, although he has not confirmed this.

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MommaC

OntheMountain

Is that the same company who said that Cope would get 40% of the last general election?

Those 'surveys' are a waste of time.
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mareza

abantu uma sebefuna izikhundla abayeke ukungxeka abanye ngoba sobanika babhacaze
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medimedi

Zuma must jump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tango

Zuma beat both Tokyo and Kgalema in Mangaung.
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Mnikazi

I fear people who want to make right without disclosing thier intention.

Just saying.
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mareza

cha uyasifuna lesikhundla
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somaartakeit

@so? yintoni into ewrongo apho? SA is a democratic country presidential position is not a reserve for a few but all those who feel they have what it takes to contend for the position so what is really stopping the ball from rolling at the moment is the dictator who thinks he is ordained to rule us to oblivion, I don't agree with Tokyo as president for reason already explained but presidential succession debate must be opened already so we can get the elephant out of the room, what is zuma afraid of?
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Masheleng

I just dont understand why its such a sin to have ambition. If Tokyo has the ambition to lead the organisation, why demonise his ambition. Ambition is what built Eiffel Tower , the now gone Twin Towers in New York, the Taj Mahal in India. To have ambition is have vision and maybe , just maybe, a plan to achieve the vision.

The problem with this country is being comfortable with mediocrity and getting rewards for not lifting a single finger. That is why this country's GDP will soon fall below that of countries like Nigeria. We have a priviledged mentality and not a go-getter attitude.

Tokyo, If you want it, dont be shy, go for it.

(Cowards die many times before their deaths)
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sgubhusenkwishi

You can imagine the level of corruption under the presidency of Tokyo, why did he come back to politics anyway if not greediness, what positive input does he have ever since, despite being active in the underworld of plotting and corruption? people wake up this is a veterian corruptee.
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EconomicFreedomFyta

I want to warn everyone here that they must not be fooled by TK, this man is in JZ camp. Intelligent sources have revealed this to comrades in Kzn.Just like in 2007 TK will make a turn around and drop the whole campaign and support JZ close to Mangaung. If anyone doesn't believe me wait until November. Its all JZ strategy to alienate Mothlante and split Monthlante vote. Pity that many in this forum undermine JZ and that's where his strength lies, the man is a very shrewd and seasoned politician, just as Thabo Mbeki and Julius, don't be fooled by his education level. Watch this space.
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Molemushi

Well mouthful comdrade Zuma must go......
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MCHANGANWAGIYANI

politics politics . he should just let others rule
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