Pointman

Why did he not apply for a residency permit legally. And asylum from what - there is no repression in India. Now they must go after the officials who helped him - and the woman who "married him".
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somaartakeit

@Pointman, but there is grinding poverty in India, whereas if one is ambitious enough its much easier to make it in SA with all corruption opportunities provided by the anc regime,
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Pointman

@somaartakeit - okay, if that is the route they want to go, then when they must live with the risk - getting caught and being incarcerated in Lindela.
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somaartakeit

@Pointman you can not generalise about all migrants, also these caught with fake docs have had fully co-operation from SAn gov officials, in fact its them that are feeding the fake documents corrupt frenzy, even when they are incarcerated in Lindela authorities assigned that task must conduct themselves professionally, ie not loot, assault or rape these ppl as is often the case, this conduct is against the laws of the country, and for us SAns citizens to condone these cause they are being done by our so called security forces against migrants, makes us criminals as well.
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MommaC

Nkosazana must stop running around Africa looking for votes and start cleaning up Horror Affairs already.
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uMnuz

Comes as no surprise at all, Dept of Home Affairs are pathetic. The Department of Home Affairs is just like a litter bin FULL WITH RUBISH that needs emptying & sorting.
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Bebesocs

Singh produced the whole register not only the certificate, this happened in Port Elizabeth.
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uMnuz

What about the human rights of victims and innocent people? seems to me criminals have more rights. This human rights law is used in the wrong way.
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uMnuz

I say send all foreigners home, they have no rights.
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Socrates

At least this will set a precedence in which foreigners with fake papers claim Human Rights false information to seek assylum, now many of them will be deported and their friends who care more about foreigners than Sans safety will have no business anymore. Human Rights my foot when that person has committed a crime and lied under oath.
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BaleliM

uMnuz
I say send all foreigners home, they have no rights
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Should other countries also send back the south africans in their country as they too are f oreigners. any intelligence in your comment?
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DISAPPEARINGACT

At least he has fake documents other than 90% of our so-called Hillbrow reloaded residents who are in this country with no documents, selling drugs, turning our sisters into prostis and boasting about it. Worst of all................. THE POLICE KNOW ABOUT AND DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. Disgusting.
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sabza007

This Indian dude is one of the thousands who are not yet caught. Horror Affairs officials must be charged with treason, what if this man was a terrorist? Its easy to bring South Africa down to its knees with the ''help'' of Horror Affairs officials and the ...police !. Well done to this judge. Fucck SAHRC, actually they should be called Foreigners HRC.
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MommaC

uMnuz

That is just silly. What of the 'foreigner' who is teaching our kids or the 'foreigner' who is doing legitimate business in SA? Illegals who bring no benefit to our country should be deported but those who are willing and able to be of benefit to us are a blessing
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Blackstone.lebs

he'll be back in no time...
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ProudlyNigerian

The issue with the home Affair has always being their terrible laws ,lazy and corrupt staff.I really do not know why the spousal permit was initiated.Not every one who comes to South Africa wants to marry a South African but the immigrations laws of SA are so ridiculous to to point of being a joke.

Spousal permits are free and the easiest way to remain in south african legally hence why many foreigners go for it albeit in different ways.So fall in love and get it legally , pay someone to marry your or use stolen ID to obtain the permits.
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ProudlyNigerian

Business permit

You can not obtain a business permit unless you have R2,500,000 in your bank account.This law is a no brainer because no African foreigner with R2500,000 will leave his home country to come and invest in South Africa.

Quick solution :

If you do not have that kind of money ,a R7500 bribe given to the right home affairs official or his agent will get you a business permit.
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ProudlyNigerian

What is even worse is that the home affairs keeps changing it's laws and changing application procedures to intentionally frustrate non South Africans and extort more money from them.You see the immigration of SA makes hundreds of millions of rands yearly from foreign nationals that is why they keep issuing visas to people who have no business in SA.The more unskilled forisgners they let in ,the more desperate people they can exploit.

At least 60% of the Home affairs official have foreign agents working for them to scam foriegners.They issue fake permits on original home affairs stickers but those permits are never in their "computer system".A few months later when the foriegner discovered that he has been scammed he will go and meet another home affairs official who will in turn scam him/her again.They have been doing this for years but the media does not tell the full stry for people to understand what is going on.

When you try to submit your application the legal way ,they will not accept it because they want you to submit through one of their external agents.They will always find something wrong with your application and turn you back.However that same application will be submitted by their agent and they will even sms you that they have received your application.The media make foreigners out to be the bad people but they fail to understand that people who have little or no choice will always comply with what they find other people doing no matter how honest they are.
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ProudlyNigerian

As long as you are a foreigner with no backing from a company or organization,you will have to bribe someone to get a permit.That is how SA immigration works and that is how it will always be for a long time to come.The home affairs officials are like GODS to foreigners,we fear them,pay them and hope they don't screw us over.When you live in a foreign country ,you are at the mercy of their officials.If you try to beat them and don't join them ,then you will be in for a hell of a ride.Not many foreigners are that brave or have the time to waste.We simply pay what they ask us and move on with our lives,seems pretty easy that way.


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ProudlyNigerian

Work Permit

You can not get a work permit except if you have been offered employment and you can not get employment except you have a work permit.

Quick Solution :

Get a legalized foreigner with a valid CC to issue you a letter of of employment (for a sum of course) then bribe a home affairs official to the tune of R5000 to get your application submitted and approved.
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sabza007

@ProudlyNigerian

How do you know all these things? Not that I disagree that they are happening.Did you also use a ''back door'' to get permanent citizenship of RSA.
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Hail

Maybe start all over again from scratch! Horror Affairs make good policies in place. The country must have a law of having how many percent of people that must come in the country and thats it. Everybody back to their home and start all over again in a proper way. Once that percentages is been reached sorry for the late applicant then in that way they can be able to control everything.Not all of the foreigner are here illegaly and not all of them are criminals, but the it is the fact that most of them are corrupt and criminals that make our brothers and sisters in blue be under pressure at their work. I just wish everything can be made in biometrics then maybe they can able to control everybody in the country.
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ProudlyNigerian

@Sabza007...I do not have permanent citizenship of SA neither do i want it.I just want to be able to run my businesses ,make money,pay my taxes and return back to Nigeria when i have made enough.

The best a Nigerian can get in SA is "Permanent Residence Permit".I have never met a Nigerian or any foreigner for that matter who has SA citizenship.While this permit allows you to get a green ID it does not grant you citizens rights.

Without saying too much ,i can tell you in regards to the business permit procedure mentioned above ,i was speaking from experience.Unfortunately Nigerians have promoted a false reputation of themselves as being "loaded" individuals hence why we are the number one targets.

Once a home affairs officials sees a Nigerian ,they automatically see a mobile ATM.You can't any done if you do not smile politely and make a plan.If you try to play the honest game with them,they send you to different offices within the same building until you are tired.That is when their agent (in most cases another Nigerian) will approach you and tell you about the quick solution.

Most people no matter how honest will go for the easy solution because they have been roaming around the home affairs for the past 4 hours without anyone attending to them.Until they change the immigration laws and install spy cameras to catch corrupt official nothing will change.
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ProudlyNigerian

@Sabza ...I know hard working honest Nigerians who have applied for the renewal of their permits since last year but those application have not yet been approved.In the same vein i know a dude who just got to SA in January and paid an home affairs official R8,000 and after 2 months he was issued a permit and he has now even applied for permanent residency which will definitely be approved as well.

If you go to most Home affairs office ,the officials will tell : "Hey wena ,this is South Africa not Lagos ,make a plan of fusek back to your country". Foreigners are insulted in plain view of everyone but nobody does anything.

Fine ,no one forced us to come here but really do we deserve the treatment these officials met out to us? I don't think so.Many of us want to follow the right procedure but they do not allow us to do so instead they frustrate us and indirectly force us to break the law for their own benefit.

I have seen a situation where we have been standing in line for over 2hrs while the officials ignored us and were busy gossiping and eating only for them to attend to one Nigerian Guy(obviously one of their agents) who just arrived and jumped the line.When we protested the official said in her own words : "you people think you are clever,you will stand there till tomorrow".

The message from her was clear: She will not attend to us because we don't want to go through one of her agents.The Nigerian came with over 30 Envelopes (definitely applications of foreigners who have already paid him). The official collected all the applications from him and entered them into the system.When she finished the Nigerian smiled ,nodded and exited the building.I am sure the Nigerian has already deposited money in her account or was going to give her the money once she had knocked off.

Just go to any home affairs building you will see Nigerians ,Zimbabweans , Ghanaians and South Africans who work for Home Affairs officials outside beckoning to you.It is a big syndicate that can not be stopped.
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sabza007

@ProudlyNigerian

Ja,the root of what is wrong is our Home affairs officials and Police who are monitoring our borders. I was driving back from a meeting in Limpopo through N1,when I came across this extremely overloaded Nissan Bakkie (1Ton) going to Zimbabwe. It was so overloaded with bicycles,beds and etc and there were three guys on top of that load and three inside the bakkie. I then passed through Nyl Plaza (Tollgate), and there were traffic officers there. The golden question was ....How did this bakkie pass through this Tollgate that when there were traffic officers stopping the cars. The answer is simple........Thats why our country is what it is because of officers like those.
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mafungwashe

its unfortunate that the government is a signitory to many international treaties including protection of foreign nationals,who abuse the south african hospitality or lex laws. It is a well known fact that
-home affairs officials are corrupt and sell documents to foreigners,thats why they have elegant assests
-foreigners are marrying south africans to have relevant papers(partnerships,temporary residence,work permits,full citezenship)
-foreigners are using south africans to commit crime in many ways(drugs,human trafficking,prostitution,collusion,smuggling of arms and minerals/chemicals)
-foreigners are involved in fake/illegal marriages(renting a lady whilst they stay with their spouses)
-foreigners come from non waring countries in many numbers and claim the unqualified assylum status
HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS ARE NOT INVESTIGATING THESE,THEY ONLY COME IN TO DEFEND THESE non south africans at the expense of citezens
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tokolosi

South Africans should travel more - most people are always complaining BUT they have never even to a border-gate let alone visiting a neighbouring country....@ProudlyNigerian - tell the truth of how often business people visiting Nigeria have to pay bribes at the airport - disregard that you have a valid travel papers, represent reputable organisations and clearly are there for less than 2 days....
you can go to South America (forget African countries) - ppl are always asking jojo.....go to Mozambique for instance, you will be paying spot-fines for jumping stop signs that dont exists....
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