May 29, 2012 | Hlengiwe Nhlabathi Political Reporter |
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THE ANC in Gauteng is investigating allegations that senior party members are convening secret meetings to discuss leadership changes ahead of the Mangaung Conference later this year.
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DimaaneZB
These leaders are stupid,people don't like them and will end up spilling the beans, now we know them. ANC is not NUMReport Abuse
Papage
That is Zumalisious for you, he will do anything to retain his Leadership, all those mentioned are his Ministers anyway, but he will be out or never respected by those who want justice.Report Abuse
Bodigelo
Goes around comes around *singing*Report Abuse
7000000
We have been denying this for a long time but yes is true that 50% of ANC top NEC members no longer want Comrade Zuma as the President and are only waiting for his second term to kick start so that they can skin him alive. The reason being that 1. He will be going out in three years time any where! 2. As the out going President no body will ever respect him for what he have done for ANC, the shambles and blunders! 3. Julius Malema will come back to haunt him very badly! 4. Sexwale and Phosa will show their true colors immediately after Mangaung re-election 5. Winnie and Malema will lead the real operation ''roll out zuma'' the brother will be given his own medicine!JUST LIKE MBEKI ZUMA WILL NOT FINISH HIS SECOND TERM AS WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND!!
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MPHOZEN
It is public knowledge that ANC members are holding secret meetings all over the country. It is not helping the situation to suppress succession debates. Top ANC members are criss- crossing the country to garner support for their prefered candidates.Report Abuse
Serai
Why r dey opening the debade a month before mangaung,whoever is gonna contest will not get enough time to prepare or it other Zuma way to retain power?Report Abuse
trooth
In a democracy, secret meetings are not needed.In a military dictatorship, secret meetings, Mdluli-type spying, Simelane-type judicial officers, Hanekom-type courts, veteran-type threats, become the order of the day.
Remember the struggle against oppression?
Same again.
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CheeseBoy
democracy is a farce when people are not allowed to publicly declare who they support. The ANC is a mafia organization which hides behind the veil of democracy.People do not like Zuma. other wise he would be confident enough to allow anybody to campaign. His family is sweeling and he still needs the money. 23 children and counting.
You got what you voted for. we warned you. I hope he wins again and screws poor people even further. The sooner poor people learn the better.
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fourty1
azilwe izilima bt u ANC nt gonna get my vote dis tymReport Abuse
Risen4romthedead
Zuma should know better what goes around comes around...hahahahaha..Can't handle the heat?get out come out!!!
You've had your share,dedelabanye mkhulu!!!
People don't like you anymore including myself....I'm enough of you...
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WarrenG
This whole party is lies and deceit, even amongst themselves. CrooksReport Abuse
Tango
He will easily get his 2nd term without any serious competition .Rise Msholozi rise.Report Abuse
TheDictator
What were they thinking?People have been lobbying behind close doors for Mangaung immediately after Polokwane.You can't stop them.By the ANC opens the doors for domination people would've decided by then.Report Abuse
tokolosi
Zimpopo kept Mathale, their down-ward spiral is in much more steamy motion - keeping Zuma will be like saying Zimbabwe is a model country....let him go back to Nkandla where he can continue his cassanova waysReport Abuse
somaartakeit
LoL 'secret meetings to discuss leadership change' unfikken believable this is, reminds of apartheid era and comrades running into former trans'kei to have their secret meetings there, wow anc you have just become a carbon copy of apartheid, funny that it didn't take you too long.Report Abuse
Tobby
Secret meetings within the ANC, I am glad this is happening, hahahaha the moment I've been waiting for, what goes around comes around. They were not suppose to fire Mbeki as they did, a bunch of stupids call themselves comrades, they are all blind and those with one eye are threatened, God loves us all and the fact that they treat everyone bad even we who locate them where they are, they will never be in peace whether they like it or not and they should now by now that money can't buy happiness. as per Jeremiah 9:23-24 says:'Let not the wise man boast of his wisdom or the strong man boast of his strength or the rich man boast of his riches, but let him who boasts boast about this: that he understands and knows Me.
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ZUMAMUSTGO
Quite refreshing that most of us are gatvol with shower head, the message should be sent out to those who will elect him in Bloem that if you bring us that shower head back you will vote for him and not us.There are so many intellectuals within the ANC how come they are so quite, this thing of debating leadership a month before the elections is nosense, this guys think they are still in exile with outdated strategies of not discussing leadership.
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LeeuKo
Its amazing how these ANC clowns want to bring this Guy back, let him go back to Nkandla 7 enjoy his retirement there..Report Abuse
ZUMAMUSTGO
Janus Walus shouldn't have killed Chris Hani, this shower head wouldn't have been a President even from the onset, he goes around saying he know what he is doing he should be asked a simple economic question WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GDP AND GNP.Report Abuse
Dandan
7000000It stands to reasons that the problem is nt Zuma , it is people who dont want to be led like the ones you mentioned above, whenever they tell you about ANC they look at dirty spot of the leader, it is the very same people Thabo Mbeki accused of plotting a coup against him.
When they were accused they cried foul until Zuma sympathised with them, the very same Winnie who was clapped by Mbeki for being ill discipline, the very same Phosa who was inciting violence in Standerton,Ermelo,Thandukukhanaya in Mpum
As a strong members of Anc we wont allow these ill discipline selfish people to destroy the ANC since they have already enriched their pockets and dont know what to do with money other than donating to Malema to build bunkers yet there is youth he left poor and did nt know how to change their lives
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Mbulelo72
Zuma's faction should leave the other faction to canvass and campaign freely.Zweli Mkhize in KZN openly said their province supported Zuma's second term,he said that even before this October where nominations will officially be opened.Report Abuse
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Dandan7000000
It stands to reasons that the problem is nt Zuma , it is people who dont want to be led like the ones you mentioned above, whenever they tell you about ANC they look at dirty spot of the leader, it is the very same people Thabo Mbeki accused of plotting a coup against him.
When they were accused they cried foul until Zuma sympathised with them, the very same Winnie who was clapped by Mbeki for being ill discipline, the very same Phosa who was inciting violence in Standerton,Ermelo,Thandukukhanaya in Mpum
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I agree with you my Chief let me put it on record that NO ANC PRESIDENT will ever finish his second term, what happened to Mbeki will be a trademark of the ANC, simply FOR THE LOVE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY, Comrades love money than the reputation of the party, I REALLY MISS MANDELA , HANI AND TAMBO! I give up!!
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Mgaraji
7000000Prophet of doom
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Mantengwane
AnythingbutZuma* watch the space.Report Abuse
spatch
Survivor...South AfricaReport Abuse
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
@7000000Dandan
7000000
It stands to reasons that the problem is nt Zuma , it is people who dont want to be led like the ones you mentioned above, whenever they tell you about ANC they look at dirty spot of the leader, it is the very same people Thabo Mbeki accused of plotting a coup against him.
When they were accused they cried foul until Zuma sympathised with them, the very same Winnie who was clapped by Mbeki for being ill discipline, the very same Phosa who was inciting violence in Standerton,Ermelo,Thandukukhanaya in Mpum
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I agree with you my Chief let me put it on record that NO ANC PRESIDENT will ever finish his second term, what happened to Mbeki will be a trademark of the ANC, simply FOR THE LOVE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY, Comrades love money than the reputation of the party, I REALLY MISS MANDELA , HANI AND TAMBO! I give up!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I completely disagree. There is no need for the ANC to go through the pain of recalling its president in the second term. Jacob Zuma has clearly shown that he did not deserve his first term and there is just no need for him to be re-eleced. It is unfortunate that people who only think about their own stomachs want to see him re-elected. After all the embarassments and 'faux pases' we have suffered under Jacob Zuma, people like Blade Nzimande only think in terms of their personal relationships with the president, and definitely not about delivery and performance. There is no denying that the relationship between Blade Nzimande & Company and President Thabo Mbeki was so bad that when Mbeki was ousted Nzimande cried tears.
This issue about ANC officials going around campaigning for Jacob Zuma against NEC rules and directives has to be taken upo by the ANC NEC itself. The ANC NEC should not allow this hypocrisy to continue. It is either lobbying has started or it has not. My view is that the other side should start lobbying for change with nominations in October. All they have to do is go around talking about the need for change to deliver to our people and the quality of leadership required as through the ANC guiding document "Through The Eye of the Needle".
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Dandan
ProgressiveAfricanDemocratstop the unnecessary fear, or unless you are bias , when Lungisa was campaigning for Faku at OR Tambo in the ECape did you make such accussations.
regions have their own mandate to decide who to invite for a speech it has got nothing to do with campaigning as we did few weeks ago , to go all out and start fear its baseless
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Lehido
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Caucuse
bet that is what Mbeki is thinking?
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