and who are you referring the arrogance to - get over yourself Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
leshwabane
you now see their arrogance,you are also arrogant.
its more like a tribal meeting there! Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Senganga247
Too late to make that comment Mr President. We also know that there is nothing that the ANC can do to them if they continue to be arrogant.
Who shall take them to task for bringing up the succession debate before time? No one. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
NDA
President of KZN shower not South Africa. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
hulas
Forward with shower man aka big max,in the last election arrogant anc lost significant number of votes in the next election anc will definitely win less than 50%. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
ThirdEye
The fact that KZN do have more members for ANC compared to other provinces doesn't mean that it examplerary. It doesn't mean that others will be looking for guidance to KZN. The only reason other provinces will look to KZN is to check how many delegates it has for Mangaung & who is nominated?
I think he is just patronising them. There only thing that KZN has raised so far when it comes to policy is decreasing numbers of NEC to 66. What is that compared what Gauteng has done under Makhura the Secretary of the Province. Zuma was playing populist card again. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
SteveBiko
one illeterate province against the other 8< Mangaung here we come... Mothlanthe My president.... Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Budapat
viva PRESIDENT JACOB GEDLEYIHLEKISA ZUMA viva Report Abuse
Udakwe ijuba, Gauteng, KZN & Western Cape are the most civilised provinces and most educated compared to the rest, the economy of this country is run by these provinces...YES we are going to Mangaung to reinstate our 100% Z*** and Mantashe the rest will be removed and include Ramaphosa and Gigs. OUR PROVINCE IS INFLUENTIAL than Limpopo the minnows Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Papage
So KZN has ANC, Inkatha & NFP as strong holds, we are in trouble SA, that is why the country is in a state. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
7000000
Jealous down phansi Umona phansi, All hail the Commander in Chief. Discipline Comrades Discipline!! Look were Julius Malema is now , the Commander in Chief is right. We welcome the call by our President elect to call for non arrogance during the Conference. Mangaung here we come. Now we can see Judas Iscariod among the other disciples we are watching him very close , he think that we are sleeping. Comrade Tokyo must understand that playing a mind game is not in his favor at the moment but we welcome his attendance of the Conference as a non trusted Cadre who we should carefully watch. Comrade Cele now you have been forgiven but you will never get the top Police Job again as you cannot be trusted on that accord we will deploy you to Lethuli House as Media Liaison Officer of the party. Comrade Bathabile has learned her lesson very well and now she knows that is pay back time for her to the Commander in Chief. Viva ANC Viva , Viva Mangaung Viva, Long Live Comrade Zuma Long Live, Allutta Continua my President already elect after Mangaung!!! Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Mrioh
Is he ever going to giveaway tractors to all provinces like he did last week ko Eastern Cape? under the disguise of the so called Rural development strategy. Well, we will await you Mr President in all our 7 provinces with the exception of your strongest province of KZN of coz. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
MissBhakajuju
Motlanthe Kgalema.... My President 2012 (mangaung) - 2024. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Pretty soon, KZN will be the only province the ANC has left. KZN and Limpopo. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
leshwabane
Instead of telling them to listen to the ANC when it said members should refrain from pronouncing themselves on the leadership until the leadership debate is open as per the top six instruction requested. if it was limpopo or free state or NW or NC,mantashe or khoza or the drunkard mthembu they would have opened their big senseless mouth.
but no it is KZN no they must stop arrogancy.
your leadership style is busy creating this factionalism because you only comment based on the same faction that you belong to! sis! Report Abuse
He thinks he is clever and we r stupits. We can b able to read his mind. Come Mangaung, he is out together with his crew. He is the one who caused division between ANCYL and ANC. It was a mistake forwarding him. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
swona
when u said ANC will rule untill Christ come, was that not arrogance? wonder where they get that from! Report Abuse
It seems KZN and Mpumalanga are ging to be a serious problem in th runup to Mangaung. Jacob Zuma knows that the arrogance will not stop as the ANC in KZN thinks it can dictate and intimidate other provinces to accept its flawed candidate. They know tha no sane and sobre members of the ANC will accept a second term from the man from Nkandla. Not if they value their future and that of their children. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sharpino
Don't be arrogant says Zuma -----------Okay. We are just waiting for Mangaung nothing better will ever come out this time.........It is just a waste of time Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sharpino
Ppl have already make up thier minds............The know who to elect.........Come Mangaung Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sharpino
Bishop Tutu once said..................."Zuma is not representing me" ...I wonder who he represent so far...................... Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sharpino
Bye everyone Good Luck KZN Good Luck we will meet in Mangaung Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
1tsotsi
swona
when u said ANC will rule untill Christ come, was that not arrogance? wonder where they get that from!
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And we didnt see any Jesus coming back after the DA took back the western cape or unless hellen zilee hid jesus in her closet. Jacob is a retard Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Sharpino
THANK YOU FOR WISHING US GOODLUCK, infact we don't need it from minorities, we will meet in Mangaung and we will see the most powerful province and tribes (KZN & E.Cape)
ANC is not about tribes...Unless if u talk about another ANC......UR lost chief....Remember provinces can decide to elect one but individually decide otherwise Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
If there is anything to learn from today is that Tokyo Gabriel Mosima Sexwale should not be trusted. The man is prepared to do anything to become president of South Africa and he is going to fail again. The one thing I cannot understand ishow a man can be so desperate to become president and yet cannot articulate a strategy or vision for the future. The presidency seems to be an end in itself. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sharpino
I dont mind JZ be the ANC Pres but lead the Gov thats worries me everyday..... Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Progressive...whatever
Go and lecture @ the University of Venda or Limpopo, and stop boring us with you stoopid analysis.
@Sharpino
Wena we will meet @Mangaung, we are not intimidated by you pipol Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Jacob is a joke. Thank you ANC for giving us this fool for a president. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Sinudeity
You are a joke yourself...and with full of masimba Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Bra007 - LOL, 'masimba', no dude, the only piece of sh1t is jacob. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
Some people are deluding themselves in this forum. If KZN is behind Zuma. Do they realise that I can vote otherwise in my little corner in Mangaung. Who told you Bra007 that Eastern Cape is behind Zuma. Some people will be shocked. Some of us don't vote along tribal lines nor with emotions. Our country is in a bad state under the current leadership. We need people with vision to take us forward. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
@ ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
I am with yo 100%. Tokyo Sexawe cannot be trusted. I discourage factional politics, but a man come across as chameleon. Changes colours easily. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Nombongo
your leadership went to Nkandla to promise Shower that he is safe, by the way E.CAPE & KZN are working together, both are tribalists...THEY WANT XOSAS & ZOOLOHS in top positions that z why they promised him because they wants a share too. HAPPY NOW??? Report Abuse
We shall see. Not after what shower is doing to the Xhosas in the Intelligence to retain power. We will bet on that. Eastern Cape is divided dear. 80% is not backing him because they think he is promoting tribalism. We bet...Mangaung here we come! Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Bra007 - Your president is a piece of sh1t, incompetent and corrupt. When he's not busy kissing babies for the PR, he's busy stealing their sweets. Hope he dies of HIV. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
Bra007 is deluding himself/herself. People like Faku will never back Zuma even behind closed doors. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
Sinudeity...will stop with your condescending attitude. If you do criticise please do it constructively without calling people names. If Zuma is stupid, will you be brave a do a better Job than him??? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
LimpopoKEGAESO
Capital City of ANC,Soon Capital City of South Africa Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Nombongo - Jacob deserves it dude. A corrupt scumb@g.
Of course I can do a better job than jacob. A grade 7 student could. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
Sinudeity..Looks like we are going to stuck with him and his faults for another 5 years. ANC is my political home...but the manner which they run the ountry is too bad. DA, I would love to give them a chance since they are good in Administration. But majority of their voters are racists and lack ubutu. I hear there is a new party coming and will assess wether they deserve my vote. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Nombongo - The ANC is a racist party and lack ubunthu. The only time you hear about ubunthu, is just before elections. I will also look out for the new party with interests. Doesnt matter who you vote for. Just vote, and dont vote ANC.
But jacob getting another 5 years, means the ANC will lose alot of votes, and most likely a province too. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Bra007
uBaba when he says you shouldn't be arrogant he means DO NOT DO exactly what wena you are doing.
Wordoftruth - Yeah, it wount be a bad thing. The ANC wount have a 2/3 majority again. They wount be able to just rubber st@mp proj3cts with their majority.
The ANC is far more racist than the DA is. For one, we can have a look at the amount of racist outbursts from different ANC politicians the past year. Compare that to hellens (I assume thats why you call the DA racist). Or do you call it racist because its majority whit3s? Because there are now more black people in the DA then there are white people. 1 in every 10 South Africans is white. 1 in 4 South Africans voted DA. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Sinudeity
Udakiwe wena, STOP dreaming!!!! VOETSE**K with your DA! Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
@WordofMouth. I for one will vote for the alternative should Jacob win Mangaung. I cannot no longer be subjected to bad Administration under the ANC government. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
Nombongo---Who cares about that thing uFAKU, he won't defeat us, stop whining and scrub floors for your madam, she is on her way from work stop using her computer or some serious stuff would get deleted and you will be fired. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Sinudeity
I don't like the DA and will never ever do. Maybe it is because I know that no white person will ever look out for my black @ss, nowhere in the entire universe.
That said, the ANC is making it extremely difficult for the likes of us to defend it against the DA. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Nombongo---you think we are frightened by amapondos who are fighting each other for homelands? get a life wena...we are tired of you people, you ruled from 94 till 2008, time for Zoolous now to rule also for 2 terms then Ramaphosa for 2 terms...mpondos we are done with you Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Nombongo
Sisi don't run away. Let's try and fix our beloved ANC that's all.
Oh this is not about the Brilliant leadership under the President Mandela& Thabo Mbeki. According to you and its about the bigger tribe. Majority of you in KZN are pathetic with your tribalists tendencies and you will be dissapointed. I hear Tokyo is there to assess the situation. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Bra007
Please do not reduce the ANC leadership rule to a tribal issue. That bhuti is dangerous and will boomerang to the very ANC very badly.
Please desist any tribal connotation when you discuss the ANC.
Bra007....your tribalists utterances are disgusting. The thing that will put majority not to vote for ANC its people of your mentality who Zulufy the ANC. No wonder your Membership has grown since Zuma became a president. You're Pathetic.@ Wordoftruth won't run...have computer probs. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Nombongo
I was meaning don't run to vote for the DA! Let us fix the ANC (all of us) to its former glory - when we were fighting the white minority rule.
I will never vote for the DA. I'll rather sit with my vote. I love the ANC but they are poor Administrators. One thing for sure Most White are good Aministrators...the obvious example is the Western Cape. Its well run and wish my ANC will copy their example. What puts me of about the DA...is the condecending tones and I am better than you mentality from their supporters. So no DA vote from me. Should Zuma win Manngaung, I am the first to Vote for the alternative in JHB. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Nombongo, yes we did increase our membership to have power like we do today. This province is lucrative, every ANC heavyweight want to win it, but they have no chance this year.
I'm surprised when you're saying we are tribalists, Mbe**ke was a tribalist, his cabinet was full of Ngc**onde's and Nqak**ulas of this world, when OUR president is doing the same you cry foul?
get a life wena, whether you like it or not Msho#lozi will retain his position of BEING the prezzie of ANC & of this country...
@Wordsoftruth
Faku does not intimidate us, he's a lightweight...thina we deal with heavyweights Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Nombongo...you have a right sisi by not voting for us, anyway it won't have an impact
Wordoftruth - The white minority rule is over. Now its to see who can steal the most from the tax payer, while fooling the voters into selling their souls for you.
You can try as hard as you want to, but the corrupt scumb@gs have taken over your party, the good people left in the organisation are fighting a losing battle.
The only way you can fix the ANC, is by buurning it down to the ground, and rebuilding. Even God has turned his back on the ANC, and the fake pastor president you have. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Nombongo - So, you would rather vote for a failing party, then the DA, because they have 'condoscending tones'... Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
LOL...faku a lightweight. Are you aware of the forces of change which is driven y Lungisa. faku has the biggest region and other Biggest regions are anti Zuma. Don't bank on EC it will be a deciding factor in Mangaung. Xhosas are very smart and play their game close to their chest. Its not like 2007 where people were blinded by Zuma's support. People voted with emotions back then. Things have since changed. This time is about the state of the country dear. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Bra007 - Yeah, your party is full of 'heavyweights'. Those dudes definitely have not missed a meal. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
Vavi has also change his tune. The road to Mangaung is going to be Interesting. Like I said DA is running the Western Cape provine well and anyone disputing that is in denial. Under the DA rule our young people will start taking tertiary education serious since they now they will get a job on merit. ANC promotes lazyness and Job for pals, corruptions. I am put of by these tendencies. !@ Sin I am againt Racism , therefore my vote is expensive for the DA. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
Bra007 are you aware that only KZN& Mpumalanga have come strongly to support Zuma??? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Nombongo
You will be surprised to realize just how many competent ANC 'ordinary' members are out there who can even surpass the very same DA in administration of government.
The issue is that there are dubious means by which the ANC leadership choses administrators and that does a huge disservice to the ANC and ANC-led government.
But that should change. Not for narrow personal persuits but for the future of our country and the voiceless impoverished masses of this beautiful country. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Nombongo - They are working hard for your vote. But please, what makes you say the DA is racist? I really wanna know. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
@Nombongo, are u aware that our rottweilers are working day & night in the E.Cape??? including the provincial leadership who are assisting us???
WOZA DECEMBER....UZOOMAH uyisikhokho...*singing* [KZN behind our main man] Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
to make sure we secure that province before the policy conference??? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - But the problem is, the good leaders in the ANC wount play by the same dubious means as the current ANC top dawgs. We've seen government officials assas1nated, because they were going to spill beans on corruption. Im sorry, your party has lost its soul, s0ld it more likely. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Bra007
You are correct in saying that the EC will a deciding 'kingmaker' in Mangaung.
The contest over there is HOT! like upelepele.
For now it is not clear which way the EC will go. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - On top of that, look what happened to the 'good leaders' of the ANC in one of the last secrecy bill votes. The ANC said they were going to discipline anyone who didnt vote in line with the party. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
@ Sin, Your DA Leader her utterances about Black Professionals, Refeguees comments, not wanting to share a toilet with black stuff. Majority of your supporters who cannot see anything right a black man does. Always complaining for the sake of.
@Word..true that. Its just that one need to be popular to have a powerful posts. Therefore were subjected to mediocrity.
Nombongo - 'Profesional bl@cks' and 'refugees'. Not wanting to share the toilet, I remember that article. Cool, thanks for the points.
You would recall that the ANC made far more racist comments about Indians and coloured people.
"Majority of your supporters who cannot see anything right a black man does."
Would you rather have someone complain, or having someone buurn a school down? Everyone is complaining about the government. Its not just within the realms of white folks where thats happening. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Sinudeity
Are you insinuating that the ANC is now beyond repairs and that the DA is the only alternative?
On DA ruling our country, am not sure if they won't be worse than the current ANC. One thing is for sure, no white person anywhere in the world, takes the interest of anyone other than their own. This is a FACT!
So don't ever think that DA would suddenly care about the interests of the historically marginalized - (and forget for a second about the fact that the ANC isn't taking care of its own either).
The DA is cunning - just want the black vote. But then the ANC is giving the DA such black vote on a silver platter, with its comedy of errors in governance and lack of delivering a better life for ALL citizens. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Nombongo - The DA/ANC can go on saying their racist things. But myself being a refugee from Joburg who 'fled' to Cape Town, the difference is remarkable. Service delivery for me, is the difference. Hopefully everyone will put service delivery at the top of their list, instead of these rockstar politicians, party loyalty etc. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
@Word. The Biggest region in the EC are anti Zuma. Some of the ANC who went to form Cope want to come back and they drive the forces of change campaign. They don't want to come openly of who they support. EC is going to be a deciding factor watch the space. Limpopo and KZN each wants to claim the support from the EC... Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
I am off for about 20min. Hope you Sin@ Word will keep the debate or convo alive. @Sin wait for my response then. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - Yeah, Im saying that. The ANC is beyond repair. There are at least 3 alternatives I would vote for. Christian party, COPE or DA.
"One thing is for sure, no white person anywhere in the world, takes the interest of anyone other than their own. This is a FACT!"
You mean a thumbsuck fact? But lemme ask you this, has the ANC top dawgs, shown any interest in anyone in South Africa, except their own? The Zuma family?
"So don't ever think that DA would suddenly care about the interests of the historically marginalized"
Unfortunately, the facts speak for themselves. The DA has created jobs in the WCape, while the rest of the country bl3d jobs. The DA almost doubled its yearly RDP housing construction, as compared to the ANC.
The DA recently built 4 new community centres in gugs and khaya here. Millions given for electricity, water etc for people who cant afford it. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Nombongo - Hehe, cool, hope you get your computer troubles fixed. I'll be around most likely, fixing something my side as well. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Nombongo. Yeah. EC is holding the ACE card, that's for sure and uMsholozi is quite aware of that and he is not sleeping, just like what Bra007 was saying.
Expect him to strategise patronage and speed up service delivery in the EC soon. Whether EC people would by such, it will be unveiled in Mangaung.
Who told you E.CAPE is the deciding factor??? your province is confused, some are supporting ZOOWa, some Monthlaateee, some SeWXALE...SeWXALE is in KZN bcoz he knows that he won't win this one...stop making fooling statements, that province a kingmaker where the refugees are streaming to W.CAPE & KZN.....my foot, say you wish it was Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
numbers will be the deciding factor....not that silly province of yours Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Sin. Not all is bad by the ANC either. For instance, go to Soweto and compare it with the Soweto Pre-1994 and to-date, that place is now a suburb to the disgust of wh!te folks.
Even so, most wh!te businesses who were skeptical of ANC rule do agree that the post ANC government has been too good for them, contrary to their fears.
What is happening is that the ANC is going from BAD to worse not only for its b1ack voters but just about for everyone who is not in the 'inner circle'. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - "that place is now a suburb to the disgust of wh!te folks."
Why would white people be disgusted? Eish you know what, you have a huge anti-white chip on your shoulder.
"What is happening is that the ANC is going from BAD to worse not only for its b1ack voters but just about for everyone who is not in the 'inner circle'."
THIS IS NOT FACEBOOK!!! u too @W & @S... invite each other Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@Sinudeity. Most b!lack folks still have apartheid scars. Yes they may well forgive but they can't forget the trauma. So this is not to say we have anti-white chip, its coz we all know and experienced what we are talking about. Unlike our beloved ANC party right now, we won't be in denial of our painful past by wh!tes.
Wordoftruth - Sure, I can understand apartheid scars. You wount be in denial about apartheid, but you are indeed in denial about the incompetent and corrupt ANC.
At some stage, you have to decide, do I love my country more than my party, or the other way around? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Bra007. manje usucasulwa yini? Relax... this is a public platform... and as such nothing precludes us discussing issues of national interest with each other.
Sin. All of those who love the party more than their own interests will fix the ANC... it is just too painful to let it go down the drain like that. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - I can diggit, but I do think its a losing battle.
To prove it, I can guarantee you, jacob will get a second term at Manguang. All the top dawgs will chant his name as he walks into the hall, bribes will be paid, positions will be promised, and jacob will run for a second term. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
@Bra007....You cannot trust Mosima Tokyo Sexwale. He is there to test the waters. The forces of change n the EC wanted him as the ANC President, but after some talks with the other group including the Youth league which made sure Faku wins the Mandela Bay region. Ask Andile Lungise...I see you're clueless about the Eastern Cape Stand. Remember Shower went to Peddie to give the farmers tractors...still people failed to change their minds to support him. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Nombongo / Wordoftruth - Anyways ladies, going to call it there. Thank you kindly for the discussions. Hope you guys have awesome weekends. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
Wordoftruth also rests.
Thank you all for the provocative but positive interaction.
@ Sin, True Jacob will get a second term, but doubt he will finish it. So many things are happening under his leadership. I for one I am gatvol to be under the Guptas's spell. Thats why the voting dynamics in JHB are completely going to change in 2014. If you hear the debates from guys who works for JSE and the foreigners who studies at Harvard or London School of Economics you will be shoked. The debates will make one feel small to vote for the Current ANC leadership. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
You too Sin, I really enjoyed it. Such constructive debates are needed without running each other down. @ Word...are you going as well? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Wordoftruth
@ Nombongo
Have to call it a night unfortunately. But I agree with you JZ will get the second term but likely not to finish it, and by which time ANC's votes would pilferage. Report Abuse
Yawn!!! vele i'm not interested in confused provinces Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
E.CAPE in Polokwane was devided even this year it is devided...so please Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
Call it confuse as much as you want. Heard the contest in Free State is also going to hotly contested. Without the backing of Free State and the EC..will see wether he will make it. Anyway as Sin has put it..with bribery and all the corrupt means. He will definitely get the second term. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
E.CAPE is DEVIDED and WAS devided going to Polokwane Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
It was divided because of the blind support they had for Jacob. He was branded as the man who is intouch with the masses. But now the majority are going to vote otherwise. Don't panick he will get the second termm. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Bra007
hahahahah i will never panick for what? for E.Cape??
KZN NUMBA ONE, UNITED AS WE STAND...........Mangaung here we come Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Nombongo
KZN alone cannot make Zuma win Mangaung. People cannot be trusted when they cast their secret ballot. Stop being arrogant. Report Abuse
May 12, 2012
seutullamakunutu
@Bra007
I had to respond cause i can see you are the worst idiot to comment on this article. Just like your illeterate JZ, KZN is not influential we are watching at the level at which you can explore your stupidity in elections and bring the country domn for the sake of tribalism. In case you dont know Limpopo has got people who are and still have been influential in the ANC politically and academicaly.( Ramaphosa, Dr Joe Phaahla, Dr Motswaledi, Advocate Ramahlodi, The first black governor of the reserve bank Tito Mboweni, ......including the same Malema who taught Zuma to use condoms not shower, but forgot to teach him how to adress the public. ,not rapists who showr later. Your JZ cant differentiate women empowerment and polygamy yet you think he can rule this country IN YOUR DREAMS.Thanks the government has introduced that people who are not in the country can vote, wait and see Zuma will never be a president again. The whole country despise him. Report Abuse
May 12, 2012
Bra007
@seutullamakunutu
hahahahhaah, Really Limpopo, get a life and tell your makwerekwer to stop raping animals, ANC 100 years ago's president was a Zoolouhg and this year 100 years later the president will be a zoolouh...go and get f**ckd in Zimpopo..ugly Ka***r Report Abuse
May 12, 2012
Bra007
and lastly tell your ugly academics to civilise your province Report Abuse
May 14, 2012
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
@Bra007
How does the Sowetan allow folks without brains like this man to come and spoil this Forum with his such stup and foolish and comments? He needs a bit of Steve Biko to enable him to think straight and have self-respect and self-esteem as a Black person. and human being. Otherwise he shames us all as humanity. Let us raise the level of debate and not descend to this kind of cesspool. A bit of banter here and ther should be in order but definitely not this hogwash. Report Abuse
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TKay
and who are you referring the arrogance to - get over yourselfReport Abuse
leshwabane
you now see their arrogance,you are also arrogant.its more like a tribal meeting there!
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Senganga247
Too late to make that comment Mr President. We also know that there is nothing that the ANC can do to them if they continue to be arrogant.Who shall take them to task for bringing up the succession debate before time? No one.
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NDA
President of KZN shower not South Africa.Report Abuse
hulas
Forward with shower man aka big max,in the last election arrogant anc lost significant number of votes in the next election anc will definitely win less than 50%.Report Abuse
ThirdEye
The fact that KZN do have more members for ANC compared to other provinces doesn't mean that it examplerary. It doesn't mean that others will be looking for guidance to KZN. The only reason other provinces will look to KZN is to check how many delegates it has for Mangaung & who is nominated?I think he is just patronising them. There only thing that KZN has raised so far when it comes to policy is decreasing numbers of NEC to 66. What is that compared what Gauteng has done under Makhura the Secretary of the Province. Zuma was playing populist card again.
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SteveBiko
one illeterate province against the other 8< Mangaung here we come... Mothlanthe My president....Report Abuse
Budapat
viva PRESIDENT JACOB GEDLEYIHLEKISA ZUMA vivaReport Abuse
ThirdEye
@SteveBikoPlease consider Mpumalanga.
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Bra007
@Steve Biko...Udakwe ijuba, Gauteng, KZN & Western Cape are the most civilised provinces and most educated compared to the rest, the economy of this country is run by these provinces...YES we are going to Mangaung to reinstate our 100% Z*** and Mantashe the rest will be removed and include Ramaphosa and Gigs. OUR PROVINCE IS INFLUENTIAL than Limpopo the minnows
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Papage
So KZN has ANC, Inkatha & NFP as strong holds, we are in trouble SA, that is why the country is in a state.Report Abuse
7000000
Jealous down phansi Umona phansi, All hail the Commander in Chief. Discipline Comrades Discipline!! Look were Julius Malema is now , the Commander in Chief is right. We welcome the call by our President elect to call for non arrogance during the Conference. Mangaung here we come. Now we can see Judas Iscariod among the other disciples we are watching him very close , he think that we are sleeping. Comrade Tokyo must understand that playing a mind game is not in his favor at the moment but we welcome his attendance of the Conference as a non trusted Cadre who we should carefully watch. Comrade Cele now you have been forgiven but you will never get the top Police Job again as you cannot be trusted on that accord we will deploy you to Lethuli House as Media Liaison Officer of the party. Comrade Bathabile has learned her lesson very well and now she knows that is pay back time for her to the Commander in Chief. Viva ANC Viva , Viva Mangaung Viva, Long Live Comrade Zuma Long Live, Allutta Continua my President already elect after Mangaung!!!Report Abuse
Mrioh
Is he ever going to giveaway tractors to all provinces like he did last week ko Eastern Cape? under the disguise of the so called Rural development strategy. Well, we will await you Mr President in all our 7 provinces with the exception of your strongest province of KZN of coz.Report Abuse
MissBhakajuju
Motlanthe Kgalema.... My President 2012 (mangaung) - 2024.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Pretty soon, KZN will be the only province the ANC has left. KZN and Limpopo.Report Abuse
leshwabane
Instead of telling them to listen to the ANC when it said members should refrain from pronouncing themselves on the leadership until the leadership debate is open as per the top six instruction requested. if it was limpopo or free state or NW or NC,mantashe or khoza or the drunkard mthembu they would have opened their big senseless mouth.but no it is KZN no they must stop arrogancy.
your leadership style is busy creating this factionalism because you only comment based on the same faction that you belong to! sis!
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kuyabheda
we need a workers party periodReport Abuse
Shwee
He thinks he is clever and we r stupits. We can b able to read his mind. Come Mangaung, he is out together with his crew. He is the one who caused division between ANCYL and ANC. It was a mistake forwarding him.Report Abuse
swona
when u said ANC will rule untill Christ come, was that not arrogance? wonder where they get that from!Report Abuse
Lehido
Booohhooo, Whatever...!...Report Abuse
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
It seems KZN and Mpumalanga are ging to be a serious problem in th runup to Mangaung. Jacob Zuma knows that the arrogance will not stop as the ANC in KZN thinks it can dictate and intimidate other provinces to accept its flawed candidate. They know tha no sane and sobre members of the ANC will accept a second term from the man from Nkandla. Not if they value their future and that of their children.Report Abuse
Sharpino
Don't be arrogant says Zuma -----------Okay. We are just waiting for Mangaung nothing better will ever come out this time.........It is just a waste of time
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Sharpino
Ppl have already make up thier minds............The know who to elect.........Come MangaungReport Abuse
Sharpino
Bishop Tutu once said..................."Zuma is not representing me" ...I wonder who he represent so far......................Report Abuse
Sharpino
Bye everyone Good Luck KZN Good Luck we will meet in MangaungReport Abuse
1tsotsi
swonawhen u said ANC will rule untill Christ come, was that not arrogance? wonder where they get that from!
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And we didnt see any Jesus coming back after the DA took back the western cape or unless hellen zilee hid jesus in her closet. Jacob is a retard
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Bra007
@SharpinoTHANK YOU FOR WISHING US GOODLUCK, infact we don't need it from minorities, we will meet in Mangaung and we will see the most powerful province and tribes (KZN & E.Cape)
VIVA E.CAPE & KZN (56%) and Mpumalanga (12%).....VIVA mSHOLOZI
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Sharpino
Bra007ANC is not about tribes...Unless if u talk about another ANC......UR lost chief....Remember provinces can decide to elect one but individually decide otherwise
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ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
If there is anything to learn from today is that Tokyo Gabriel Mosima Sexwale should not be trusted. The man is prepared to do anything to become president of South Africa and he is going to fail again. The one thing I cannot understand ishow a man can be so desperate to become president and yet cannot articulate a strategy or vision for the future. The presidency seems to be an end in itself.Report Abuse
Sharpino
I dont mind JZ be the ANC Pres but lead the Gov thats worries me everyday.....Report Abuse
Bra007
@Progressive...whateverGo and lecture @ the University of Venda or Limpopo, and stop boring us with you stoopid analysis.
@Sharpino
Wena we will meet @Mangaung, we are not intimidated by you pipol
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Sinudeity
Jacob is a joke. Thank you ANC for giving us this fool for a president.Report Abuse
Bra007
@SinudeityYou are a joke yourself...and with full of masimba
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Sinudeity
Bra007 - LOL, 'masimba', no dude, the only piece of sh1t is jacob.Report Abuse
Nombongo
Some people are deluding themselves in this forum. If KZN is behind Zuma. Do they realise that I can vote otherwise in my little corner in Mangaung. Who told you Bra007 that Eastern Cape is behind Zuma. Some people will be shocked. Some of us don't vote along tribal lines nor with emotions. Our country is in a bad state under the current leadership. We need people with vision to take us forward.Report Abuse
Nombongo
@ ProgressiveAfricanDemocratI am with yo 100%. Tokyo Sexawe cannot be trusted. I discourage factional politics, but a man come across as chameleon. Changes colours easily.
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Bra007
@Nombongoyour leadership went to Nkandla to promise Shower that he is safe, by the way E.CAPE & KZN are working together, both are tribalists...THEY WANT XOSAS & ZOOLOHS in top positions that z why they promised him because they wants a share too. HAPPY NOW???
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Bra007
@SinudeityI think it you
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Nombongo
We shall see. Not after what shower is doing to the Xhosas in the Intelligence to retain power. We will bet on that. Eastern Cape is divided dear. 80% is not backing him because they think he is promoting tribalism. We bet...Mangaung here we come!Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Bra007 - Your president is a piece of sh1t, incompetent and corrupt. When he's not busy kissing babies for the PR, he's busy stealing their sweets. Hope he dies of HIV.Report Abuse
Nombongo
Bra007 is deluding himself/herself. People like Faku will never back Zuma even behind closed doors.Report Abuse
Nombongo
Sinudeity...will stop with your condescending attitude. If you do criticise please do it constructively without calling people names. If Zuma is stupid, will you be brave a do a better Job than him???Report Abuse
LimpopoKEGAESO
Capital City of ANC,Soon Capital City of South AfricaReport Abuse
Sinudeity
Nombongo - Jacob deserves it dude. A corrupt scumb@g.Of course I can do a better job than jacob. A grade 7 student could.
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Nombongo
Sinudeity..Looks like we are going to stuck with him and his faults for another 5 years. ANC is my political home...but the manner which they run the ountry is too bad. DA, I would love to give them a chance since they are good in Administration. But majority of their voters are racists and lack ubutu. I hear there is a new party coming and will assess wether they deserve my vote.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Nombongo - The ANC is a racist party and lack ubunthu. The only time you hear about ubunthu, is just before elections. I will also look out for the new party with interests. Doesnt matter who you vote for. Just vote, and dont vote ANC.But jacob getting another 5 years, means the ANC will lose alot of votes, and most likely a province too.
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Wordoftruth
@ Bra007uBaba when he says you shouldn't be arrogant he means DO NOT DO exactly what wena you are doing.
Please STOP!
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Wordoftruth
@ SinudeityIf JZ is re-elected, ANC will lose Gauteng for sure! and to the rac!st DA (Nxaaa!).
But perhaps on the other hand that isn't necessarily such a bad thing SHOULD it happen - in order to wake the ANC up to pull its socks.
When Gauteng is gone, remember the 'kitty' will also go and the leadership will sure wake up and roll up its sleeves.
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Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - Yeah, it wount be a bad thing. The ANC wount have a 2/3 majority again. They wount be able to just rubber st@mp proj3cts with their majority.The ANC is far more racist than the DA is. For one, we can have a look at the amount of racist outbursts from different ANC politicians the past year. Compare that to hellens (I assume thats why you call the DA racist). Or do you call it racist because its majority whit3s? Because there are now more black people in the DA then there are white people. 1 in every 10 South Africans is white. 1 in 4 South Africans voted DA.
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Bra007
@SinudeityUdakiwe wena, STOP dreaming!!!! VOETSE**K with your DA!
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Nombongo
@WordofMouth. I for one will vote for the alternative should Jacob win Mangaung. I cannot no longer be subjected to bad Administration under the ANC government.Report Abuse
Bra007
Nombongo---Who cares about that thing uFAKU, he won't defeat us, stop whining and scrub floors for your madam, she is on her way from work stop using her computer or some serious stuff would get deleted and you will be fired.Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ SinudeityI don't like the DA and will never ever do. Maybe it is because I know that no white person will ever look out for my black @ss, nowhere in the entire universe.
That said, the ANC is making it extremely difficult for the likes of us to defend it against the DA.
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Bra007
@Nombongo---you think we are frightened by amapondos who are fighting each other for homelands? get a life wena...we are tired of you people, you ruled from 94 till 2008, time for Zoolous now to rule also for 2 terms then Ramaphosa for 2 terms...mpondos we are done with youReport Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ NombongoSisi don't run away. Let's try and fix our beloved ANC that's all.
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Nombongo
Oh this is not about the Brilliant leadership under the President Mandela& Thabo Mbeki. According to you and its about the bigger tribe. Majority of you in KZN are pathetic with your tribalists tendencies and you will be dissapointed. I hear Tokyo is there to assess the situation.Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ Bra007Please do not reduce the ANC leadership rule to a tribal issue. That bhuti is dangerous and will boomerang to the very ANC very badly.
Please desist any tribal connotation when you discuss the ANC.
I thank you in advance.
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Nombongo
Bra007....your tribalists utterances are disgusting. The thing that will put majority not to vote for ANC its people of your mentality who Zulufy the ANC. No wonder your Membership has grown since Zuma became a president. You're Pathetic.@ Wordoftruth won't run...have computer probs.Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ NombongoI was meaning don't run to vote for the DA! Let us fix the ANC (all of us) to its former glory - when we were fighting the white minority rule.
Remember, together we can do more.
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Nombongo
I will never vote for the DA. I'll rather sit with my vote. I love the ANC but they are poor Administrators. One thing for sure Most White are good Aministrators...the obvious example is the Western Cape. Its well run and wish my ANC will copy their example. What puts me of about the DA...is the condecending tones and I am better than you mentality from their supporters. So no DA vote from me. Should Zuma win Manngaung, I am the first to Vote for the alternative in JHB.Report Abuse
Bra007
@Nombongo, yes we did increase our membership to have power like we do today. This province is lucrative, every ANC heavyweight want to win it, but they have no chance this year.I'm surprised when you're saying we are tribalists, Mbe**ke was a tribalist, his cabinet was full of Ngc**onde's and Nqak**ulas of this world, when OUR president is doing the same you cry foul?
get a life wena, whether you like it or not Msho#lozi will retain his position of BEING the prezzie of ANC & of this country...
@Wordsoftruth
Faku does not intimidate us, he's a lightweight...thina we deal with heavyweights
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Bra007
@Nombongo...you have a right sisi by not voting for us, anyway it won't have an impactLALA KAHLE!
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Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - The white minority rule is over. Now its to see who can steal the most from the tax payer, while fooling the voters into selling their souls for you.You can try as hard as you want to, but the corrupt scumb@gs have taken over your party, the good people left in the organisation are fighting a losing battle.
The only way you can fix the ANC, is by buurning it down to the ground, and rebuilding. Even God has turned his back on the ANC, and the fake pastor president you have.
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Sinudeity
Nombongo - So, you would rather vote for a failing party, then the DA, because they have 'condoscending tones'...Report Abuse
Nombongo
LOL...faku a lightweight. Are you aware of the forces of change which is driven y Lungisa. faku has the biggest region and other Biggest regions are anti Zuma. Don't bank on EC it will be a deciding factor in Mangaung. Xhosas are very smart and play their game close to their chest. Its not like 2007 where people were blinded by Zuma's support. People voted with emotions back then. Things have since changed. This time is about the state of the country dear.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Bra007 - Yeah, your party is full of 'heavyweights'. Those dudes definitely have not missed a meal.Report Abuse
Nombongo
Vavi has also change his tune. The road to Mangaung is going to be Interesting. Like I said DA is running the Western Cape provine well and anyone disputing that is in denial. Under the DA rule our young people will start taking tertiary education serious since they now they will get a job on merit. ANC promotes lazyness and Job for pals, corruptions. I am put of by these tendencies. !@ Sin I am againt Racism , therefore my vote is expensive for the DA.Report Abuse
Nombongo
Bra007 are you aware that only KZN& Mpumalanga have come strongly to support Zuma???Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ NombongoYou will be surprised to realize just how many competent ANC 'ordinary' members are out there who can even surpass the very same DA in administration of government.
The issue is that there are dubious means by which the ANC leadership choses administrators and that does a huge disservice to the ANC and ANC-led government.
But that should change. Not for narrow personal persuits but for the future of our country and the voiceless impoverished masses of this beautiful country.
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Sinudeity
Nombongo - They are working hard for your vote. But please, what makes you say the DA is racist? I really wanna know.Report Abuse
Bra007
@Nombongo, are u aware that our rottweilers are working day & night in the E.Cape??? including the provincial leadership who are assisting us???WOZA DECEMBER....UZOOMAH uyisikhokho...*singing* [KZN behind our main man]
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Bra007
to make sure we secure that province before the policy conference???Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - But the problem is, the good leaders in the ANC wount play by the same dubious means as the current ANC top dawgs. We've seen government officials assas1nated, because they were going to spill beans on corruption. Im sorry, your party has lost its soul, s0ld it more likely.Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ Bra007You are correct in saying that the EC will a deciding 'kingmaker' in Mangaung.
The contest over there is HOT! like upelepele.
For now it is not clear which way the EC will go.
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Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - On top of that, look what happened to the 'good leaders' of the ANC in one of the last secrecy bill votes. The ANC said they were going to discipline anyone who didnt vote in line with the party.Report Abuse
Nombongo
@ Sin, Your DA Leader her utterances about Black Professionals, Refeguees comments, not wanting to share a toilet with black stuff. Majority of your supporters who cannot see anything right a black man does. Always complaining for the sake of.@Word..true that. Its just that one need to be popular to have a powerful posts. Therefore were subjected to mediocrity.
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Sinudeity
Nombongo - 'Profesional bl@cks' and 'refugees'. Not wanting to share the toilet, I remember that article. Cool, thanks for the points.You would recall that the ANC made far more racist comments about Indians and coloured people.
"Majority of your supporters who cannot see anything right a black man does."
Would you rather have someone complain, or having someone buurn a school down? Everyone is complaining about the government. Its not just within the realms of white folks where thats happening.
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Wordoftruth
@ SinudeityAre you insinuating that the ANC is now beyond repairs and that the DA is the only alternative?
On DA ruling our country, am not sure if they won't be worse than the current ANC. One thing is for sure, no white person anywhere in the world, takes the interest of anyone other than their own. This is a FACT!
So don't ever think that DA would suddenly care about the interests of the historically marginalized - (and forget for a second about the fact that the ANC isn't taking care of its own either).
The DA is cunning - just want the black vote. But then the ANC is giving the DA such black vote on a silver platter, with its comedy of errors in governance and lack of delivering a better life for ALL citizens.
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Sinudeity
Nombongo - The DA/ANC can go on saying their racist things. But myself being a refugee from Joburg who 'fled' to Cape Town, the difference is remarkable. Service delivery for me, is the difference. Hopefully everyone will put service delivery at the top of their list, instead of these rockstar politicians, party loyalty etc.Report Abuse
Nombongo
@Word. The Biggest region in the EC are anti Zuma. Some of the ANC who went to form Cope want to come back and they drive the forces of change campaign. They don't want to come openly of who they support. EC is going to be a deciding factor watch the space. Limpopo and KZN each wants to claim the support from the EC...Report Abuse
Nombongo
I am off for about 20min. Hope you Sin@ Word will keep the debate or convo alive. @Sin wait for my response then.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - Yeah, Im saying that. The ANC is beyond repair. There are at least 3 alternatives I would vote for. Christian party, COPE or DA."One thing is for sure, no white person anywhere in the world, takes the interest of anyone other than their own. This is a FACT!"
You mean a thumbsuck fact? But lemme ask you this, has the ANC top dawgs, shown any interest in anyone in South Africa, except their own? The Zuma family?
"So don't ever think that DA would suddenly care about the interests of the historically marginalized"
Unfortunately, the facts speak for themselves. The DA has created jobs in the WCape, while the rest of the country bl3d jobs. The DA almost doubled its yearly RDP housing construction, as compared to the ANC.
The DA recently built 4 new community centres in gugs and khaya here. Millions given for electricity, water etc for people who cant afford it.
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Sinudeity
Nombongo - Hehe, cool, hope you get your computer troubles fixed. I'll be around most likely, fixing something my side as well.Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ Nombongo. Yeah. EC is holding the ACE card, that's for sure and uMsholozi is quite aware of that and he is not sleeping, just like what Bra007 was saying.Expect him to strategise patronage and speed up service delivery in the EC soon. Whether EC people would by such, it will be unveiled in Mangaung.
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Bra007
@NombongoWho told you E.CAPE is the deciding factor??? your province is confused, some are supporting ZOOWa, some Monthlaateee, some SeWXALE...SeWXALE is in KZN bcoz he knows that he won't win this one...stop making fooling statements, that province a kingmaker where the refugees are streaming to W.CAPE & KZN.....my foot, say you wish it was
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Bra007
numbers will be the deciding factor....not that silly province of yoursReport Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ Sin. Not all is bad by the ANC either. For instance, go to Soweto and compare it with the Soweto Pre-1994 and to-date, that place is now a suburb to the disgust of wh!te folks.Even so, most wh!te businesses who were skeptical of ANC rule do agree that the post ANC government has been too good for them, contrary to their fears.
What is happening is that the ANC is going from BAD to worse not only for its b1ack voters but just about for everyone who is not in the 'inner circle'.
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Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - "that place is now a suburb to the disgust of wh!te folks."Why would white people be disgusted? Eish you know what, you have a huge anti-white chip on your shoulder.
"What is happening is that the ANC is going from BAD to worse not only for its b1ack voters but just about for everyone who is not in the 'inner circle'."
Yeah, thats the bottomline.
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Bra007
THIS IS NOT FACEBOOK!!! u too @W & @S... invite each otherReport Abuse
Wordoftruth
@Sinudeity. Most b!lack folks still have apartheid scars. Yes they may well forgive but they can't forget the trauma. So this is not to say we have anti-white chip, its coz we all know and experienced what we are talking about. Unlike our beloved ANC party right now, we won't be in denial of our painful past by wh!tes.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - Sure, I can understand apartheid scars. You wount be in denial about apartheid, but you are indeed in denial about the incompetent and corrupt ANC.At some stage, you have to decide, do I love my country more than my party, or the other way around?
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Wordoftruth
@ Bra007. manje usucasulwa yini? Relax... this is a public platform... and as such nothing precludes us discussing issues of national interest with each other.Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
Sin. All of those who love the party more than their own interests will fix the ANC... it is just too painful to let it go down the drain like that.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Wordoftruth - I can diggit, but I do think its a losing battle.To prove it, I can guarantee you, jacob will get a second term at Manguang. All the top dawgs will chant his name as he walks into the hall, bribes will be paid, positions will be promised, and jacob will run for a second term.
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Nombongo
@Bra007....You cannot trust Mosima Tokyo Sexwale. He is there to test the waters. The forces of change n the EC wanted him as the ANC President, but after some talks with the other group including the Youth league which made sure Faku wins the Mandela Bay region. Ask Andile Lungise...I see you're clueless about the Eastern Cape Stand. Remember Shower went to Peddie to give the farmers tractors...still people failed to change their minds to support him.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Nombongo / Wordoftruth - Anyways ladies, going to call it there. Thank you kindly for the discussions. Hope you guys have awesome weekends.Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
Wordoftruth also rests.Thank you all for the provocative but positive interaction.
Have a good one.
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Nombongo
@ Sin, True Jacob will get a second term, but doubt he will finish it. So many things are happening under his leadership. I for one I am gatvol to be under the Guptas's spell. Thats why the voting dynamics in JHB are completely going to change in 2014. If you hear the debates from guys who works for JSE and the foreigners who studies at Harvard or London School of Economics you will be shoked. The debates will make one feel small to vote for the Current ANC leadership.Report Abuse
Nombongo
You too Sin, I really enjoyed it. Such constructive debates are needed without running each other down. @ Word...are you going as well?Report Abuse
Wordoftruth
@ NombongoHave to call it a night unfortunately. But I agree with you JZ will get the second term but likely not to finish it, and by which time ANC's votes would pilferage.
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Nombongo
Sleep well Word. Till then!!!Report Abuse
Bra007
@NombongoYawn!!! vele i'm not interested in confused provinces
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Bra007
E.CAPE in Polokwane was devided even this year it is devided...so pleaseReport Abuse
Nombongo
Call it confuse as much as you want. Heard the contest in Free State is also going to hotly contested. Without the backing of Free State and the EC..will see wether he will make it. Anyway as Sin has put it..with bribery and all the corrupt means. He will definitely get the second term.Report Abuse
Bra007
E.CAPE is DEVIDED and WAS devided going to PolokwaneReport Abuse
Nombongo
It was divided because of the blind support they had for Jacob. He was branded as the man who is intouch with the masses. But now the majority are going to vote otherwise. Don't panick he will get the second termm.Report Abuse
Bra007
hahahahah i will never panick for what? for E.Cape??KZN NUMBA ONE, UNITED AS WE STAND...........Mangaung here we come
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Nombongo
KZN alone cannot make Zuma win Mangaung. People cannot be trusted when they cast their secret ballot. Stop being arrogant.Report Abuse
seutullamakunutu
@Bra007I had to respond cause i can see you are the worst idiot to comment on this article. Just like your illeterate JZ, KZN is not influential we are watching at the level at which you can explore your stupidity in elections and bring the country domn for the sake of tribalism. In case you dont know Limpopo has got people who are and still have been influential in the ANC politically and academicaly.( Ramaphosa, Dr Joe Phaahla, Dr Motswaledi, Advocate Ramahlodi, The first black governor of the reserve bank Tito Mboweni, ......including the same Malema who taught Zuma to use condoms not shower, but forgot to teach him how to adress the public. ,not rapists who showr later. Your JZ cant differentiate women empowerment and polygamy yet you think he can rule this country IN YOUR DREAMS.Thanks the government has introduced that people who are not in the country can vote, wait and see Zuma will never be a president again. The whole country despise him.
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Bra007
@seutullamakunutuhahahahhaah, Really Limpopo, get a life and tell your makwerekwer to stop raping animals, ANC 100 years ago's president was a Zoolouhg and this year 100 years later the president will be a zoolouh...go and get f**ckd in Zimpopo..ugly Ka***r
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Bra007
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ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
@Bra007How does the Sowetan allow folks without brains like this man to come and spoil this Forum with his such stup and foolish and comments? He needs a bit of Steve Biko to enable him to think straight and have self-respect and self-esteem as a Black person. and human being. Otherwise he shames us all as humanity. Let us raise the level of debate and not descend to this kind of cesspool. A bit of banter here and ther should be in order but definitely not this hogwash.
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