so is that how this maimane solve the obviously racist problem? and the DA feels proud about this why? ONLY IF there were real political alternatives the anc wldn't rub it on our faces that they will rule till Christ returns, judging by calibre of politics of the opposition no wonder the anc is confident in its arrogantly ruling us aground, Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Papage
Does this meeting remove their guilt? The fact of the matter is they are racist, period, maybe it worked for you Maimane, not me, as far as i am concern they must be charged by human rights commission, like all those who comitted same crime. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
dimpho_4U
yoh hai..enough with these two already!! Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
RobinH
Maimane said: “Its been a journey for both Jess and for Tshidi...
and that "he would write a letter to the Human Rights Commission containing evidence about the matter".
How's this for a laugh. What journey, Maimane? The massive distance between being a complete racist arsehole to becoming a beacon of racial tolerance in three easy steps? Such deeply entrenched beliefs that lead one to respond in such nasty fashion almost subconsciously to such petty situations do not sommer dissolve after being exposed to that toothy fake smile. Do you honestly think we are that thick? As for "evidence" what evidence could you as a rank outsider presume to submit that might have any value at all? Character references from school principals? A letter from some or other pastor singing the praises for the sweet little whomever? Come now, Sir. As a political gambit this one is worthy of a Grade 1.
We must empose the strongest possible sentence to anyone showing racial intolerance. Irrespective of his/her colour or creed. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
sakhomba
good for you ladies. after so much hard work of deliberations and articulations on the matter. I invite you to come rest on my ball's. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
BaleliM
Oh please!! if this had not gone to paper, none of them would have had the decency to apologise. I despise pretense!! Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Shwabada
Thank you for this PR stant. I know that these girls are still racist. Are they going to be taken to any counsilling? Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
and that "he would write a letter to the Human Rights Commission containing evidence about the matter".
------------------------------------------------------For a political solution maimane? goes to show that the so called born fr33 is a load of bullocks tauted by the DA cause they can't truly appreciate gains of the TRC process and the hard work (racial healing process) which had to take place, and is obvious to everyone taht such has not happened hence the underlying racist tones in the attitudes of the supposedly born fr33.
This maimane is fake and insult to our intelligence. Please God help SA to create a political alternative which will help us deal fair and honestly with our social issues so we can all find a resolution and way forward. Cause right now we have politicians insulting our pain (racial disharmony) and thinking its a big joke, Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
sabza007
@BaleliM
Oh please!! if this had not gone to paper, none of them would have had the decency to apologise. I despise pretense!!
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I agree 110% with you .Since this Jessica chick has apologized, will the Sponsors revert their decisions ? My opinion is that they shouldn't re-instate her. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Diva7
That hand shake doen't look sincere @ all. It's like they were blackmailed into touching each other. What a waist of media coverage. Pathetic PR stunt Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
the reason our country has not effectively dealt with its past is cause we have fake leaders like maimane and the rest of the corrupt l00ting thus deflecting national issues, which sporadically come up when ordinary SAns are confronted with difficulties as in the case of these 2 racist girls. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
fizo
I think everything is now taken out of propotion..I mean you can't even say something on social media because they will say you are a racist..NO Ways i don't see anything wrong about people who express their frastration on tweeter or facebook...
there's no need for politicians to monitor our comments and make agenda out of it... i won't mind if someone called me K...cos i know it doesn't represent me but his own frastration and his devil spirit so everything here in Mzantsi it's now racism and some even lie becasue they understand that people will bag them.. Report Abuse
I'm tired of these 2 already. Anyways who take naked people seriously? Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@Shredder
The two racists shaking hands. LoL
it must have given maimane a hard on to finally meet porn star jessica in person, talk abt our politics being reduced to just an ejaculation!!! DA you have lost my support for sure. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
RobinH
Shredder, and a fake mediator grinning whilst trying to milk this pathetic display with all the right backpatting being dealt out by Mrs Hitler and co. Puke puke. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
Was everybody clothed during the mediation? or can we expect a video in the near future of a naked DA speaker with a hard on surrounded himself with half naked air heads models of racism? Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
Christ people, give the models a break..............they have peanut sized brains..........can one really blame them for there stupidity??
As for the DA.................thanks again for at least trying to bring some light to such a dark situation! Report Abuse
"As for the DA.................thanks again for at least trying to bring some light to such a dark situation" pray tell what light Rothschilds? *SMH* Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Shredder
Maimane you have done your part; I commend you for that. You didn't spit gal and shout racism, at least you have done something to bring the two racists together. Who knows what will these 2 do in future to bring the nation together? They might even become good friends from now on. "And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not." Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
RobinH
Rothschilds - Not blaming them for their inate stupidity. BUT I am annoyed at the blatant attempt by this nothing of a political wannabe trying to milk what is seesntially just a petty spat between two remarkably switched off individuals with massive chips on their over-exposed shoulders. Trying to use this is a really pathetic ploy. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
The fact that after what was said, that they both could look each other in the eye and hold each others hands........................its a big thing to do after such hurtful things are said you know! Give them a tiiinnnnyyy bit of credit. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@Shredder please can you not see this is a cheap political publicity? I just didn't expect that the DA wld stoop this low. I still have to recover from shock. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Phunyukabemphethe
DJWinner
I'm tired of these 2 already. Anyways who take naked people seriously?
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No man, there is worst racist by the name of Ken Sinclair on facebook, Cape Peninsula University of Technology ( CPUT) log now Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschilds
So what Tony Blair posed with Gadafi did that mean they were bosom friends? This nation needs serious and sincere solutions to our national problem not bubble gum solutions. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
RobinH
Phunyukabemphethe: I agree. That man is beyond any form of rationale.
How hard must it of being for that poor black man (that probably gets attacked left right and center from his fellow black majority for being part of the DA) to invite this white girl into his home after the horrific things she said???
I think we should give him a bell's! Would you invite someone like that into your home?
I think we should just try and see that somehow, all the peanut brained people could learn a lesson from this.
But both these girls should both feel the wrath of the law! Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Shredder
@somaartakeit - @Shredder please can you not see this is a cheap political publicity?
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It doesn't really matter. You know what? The ANC can start fighting DA for stealing votes by this action. Agg, it doesn't really matter. it's good that the two racists came face to face with each other rather hiding behind their technology toys. They should have scratched each other. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
tpaz
Tshidi's body language does not show any remorse Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@Phunyukabemphethe
DJWinner
"No man, there is worst racist by the name of Ken Sinclair on facebook, Cape Peninsula University of Technology ( CPUT) log now" why was he not invited to the maimane strip tease racism show? sorry I forgot he wanted the girls all to himself *feel sorry for his w!fe* Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
tpaz
they should have stripped naked for charity. Ddoobs & DJWinner being the beneficiaries. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Shredder
@RobinH
Phunyukabemphethe: I agree. That man is beyond any form of rationale.
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No, no, no. It's a good thing Maimane brought the two racists together. I hope Sowetan brings RobinH and tpaz together or DJWINNER and RobinH together :) Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschilds
So what Tony Blair posed with Gadafi did that mean they were bosom friends? This nation needs serious and sincere solutions to our national problem not bubble gum solutions.
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I agree with the serious solutions part.
But no political party has come up with a anti racial campaign that could really put a dent in racism...................thats probably because the ANC thrives out white racism. And the DA needs to realize that racism is a major threat to our democracy! Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@Shredder
@somaartakeit - @Shredder please can you not see this is a cheap political publicity?
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It doesn't really matter. You know what? The ANC can start fighting DA for stealing votes by this action.
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LoL apparently the anc is hard at work, campaigning for votes from Afrik aans speaking SAns, they are so busy the prolly didn't know if there was anyone called Jessica and Tshidi, lol and according to the M&G their campaign is going well, you see the anc silly as they are in handling our national issues, but you gotta give it to them, they channel their resources were it matter most and they are effective, that's why they are confident that they will rule till Christ comes back, lol Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
RobinH
Shredder. I have no beef with those people personally. I simply refuse to bow down to racists. But I get the point. Report Abuse
@vat_Alles, they're both are not buying if you look at body language of both, that is why it is a shame that Rothschilds wld think that the DA did anything significant in this respect, Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
tpaz
@Vat_Alles......and the pin.k one is going hungry Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
@vat_Alles, they're both are not buying if you look at body language of both, that is why it is a shame that Rothschilds wld think that the DA did anything significant in this respect,
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Why is it a shame that i feel the DA at least tried to do something right? Even if it doesnt work, it was the right thing to do i feel. Report Abuse
@Rothschilds, the courts should be afforded opportunity to teach these 2 racist girls a lesson without being hindered/pre-emptied by political interference. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Bdoobs
The truth is out there and the evidence is there for everyone to see, they can shake hands till next year, one is racist and the other one is just like me, she just can stand the racist. What you see is lights, camera, action. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
@Rothschilds, the courts should be afforded opportunity to teach these 2 racist girls a lesson without being hindered/pre-emptied by political interference.
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Ofcourse the courts must handle them and charge them. But theres nothing wrong with what this guy did..............even out of his personal capacity to invite this white girl into his house after what she said amazes me. I dont think Madam Zille said to him: nows our chance to take advantage. Im entitled to my beliefs. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
and in anycase Rothschilds everyone incl the criminals are trying to do something in order to sustain whatever it is they are involved with, but the difference is that public servants must do something which will result in a positive difference in our lives, now please go look in the pic and tell me if the goal has been achieved, both are just posing for cameras but still bore ill feelings, don't take my word for it look at both their body languages in the picture accompanying the article. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
and this quick fix solution reminds of ppl who are food binging to try drown real problem which makes them to seek solace in binging to escape their realities, wena Rothschilds you expect that we are satisfied with fake displays of reconciliation, if this was a success both girls wld have ADMITTED their guilt and then maimane as a guardian in this matter, wld suggest that we do this or that to help the girls to handle racial issues better in the future, now they are both denying they are racist when its obvious, how is this effective resolution or intervention by maimane? Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Elton4real
I really do not see the point in Mr Maimane's way off trying to resolve the matter, what both those girls said is inexcusable, they both past racial comments fully aware of the consequences, and to have them meet does not change anything, its even more sad that in a Country that has had its fair share of racial injustice we still have racial and discriminative comments being past on after 18 years into our democracy, secondly you should always take what ever people say out of anger seriously, because it is their opinion on what ever matter that angered them, both those girls made those comment out of anger, and I believe they should be prosecuted for their actions...and I'm specking out for anger. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
Its a start, noone said it was the solution. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Tsokombela
they pretending, if der wasnt lost contracts der wuldnt be an apology Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
Its a start, noone said it was the solution.
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Sorry but how can one start by being insincere and expect that such insincerity is supported and embraced as a 'good start'? Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
People make mistakes, they are y.oung, b.ainless, they acted out of anger and a.ngry people can use de.humanizing terminology, doesnt mean they truly h.ate certain races.
I am 1000% against racism, but we are all guilty of been racist at least once in our lives, even you are........you are openly racist on this blog at times. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
Its a start, noone said it was the solution.
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Sorry but how can one start by being insincere and expect that such insincerity is supported and embraced as a 'good start'?
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noone said it was a good start either, but its a start. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
ThirdEye
The DA guy is scoring political point, but I doubt it will change anything to these two ladies. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
sabza007
Can Maimane take a Farmer and a farm worker to bring them to his house and ''reconcile'' them? I don't think so. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
"I am 1000% against racism, but we are all guilty of been racist at least once in our lives, even you are........you are openly racist on this blog at times" I agree that we are passively or actively guilty of this, only because we leadership vacuum who use this real threat to our democracy as a publicity stance just as in this case, so who in the h#ll will we as a nation ever overcome our racial barriers? Rothschilds don't get me wrong all I want are REAL and GENUINE solutions/actions towards solving the problem and I will accept nothing less from our so called leaders, wena nje you are defending the DA regardless of the glaring fact that this is a mere publicity stunt at expense of those truly offended by remarks from both girls, Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
cornelius
@somaartakeit ( and others). There were two options : leave the whole unsavoury matter hanging in the air, or do something to make it better. You have all seen the outburst of racial mudslinging on socialnetworks that followed this story. It is the kind of self perpetuating , vicious cycle, that this country defenitely does not need. I fail to grasp the negative reaction to this reconciliation. Somaartakeit , they were never going to admit they are racists, it does not work that way. The best that one can hope for isd that the underlying racism, which I always maintain is caused by ignorance, will have been reduced by the act of reconciliation. The blonde now understands better, and so does the brunette.
Bravo Mr Maimane - your intervention put an end to a vicious cycle of racial hatred and showed that these kinds of problems are caused by over hasty reactions to situations. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
sabza007
Can Maimane take a Farmer and a farm worker to bring them to his house and ''reconcile'' them? I don't think so.
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I dont think theres any chance of reconciling a boss and the worker in any society :) Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
You are passively condoning these girls by not condeming this maimane whose main ambition is publicity, this is a real issue for SAns, do you not understand this? this is a pain to many of us when you can appreciate that, then you will condemn intentions of maimane in this, Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@cornelius
@somaartakeit ( and others). There were two options : leave the whole unsavoury matter hanging in the air, or do something to make it better.
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So God Maimane to save the day? What a simplistic view? I disagree with you, this case is in the hands of the courts, who will view it without emotions but based on facts as outlined in the statutes of SA iro racism, maimane is interfering in the name of the DA, do you guys not see anything wrong with this, or your blind support for the DA makes it impossible to condemn one of your own when using the name of the DA in vain? Report Abuse
Ok i am sorry, i dont defend the DA on this............i just defend the situation.........that bringing these two girls together was a start. If this was publicity stunt for the DA to gain votes at the expense of all those that are deeply hurt by racism in general, then to hell with the DA..........happy? :) Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
"Ok i am sorry, i dont defend the DA on this............i just defend the situation.........that bringing these two girls together was a start.." Bringing the girls in the name of the DA is what is the problem here, do you not see that? if he was doing it in his person capacity. You also must now admit that Dzel was right when alluding to the fact that jessica was DA member/supporter? Do you guys really not see how you continue making same mistakes made by anc supporters of blind supporting? Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
And why were their parents excl in this event by Maimane? cause racism is a learned trait, in the same way that manners are learned in the development process. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
Is it really wrong for a political party to show some form of leadership in this situation?...............even if it maybe was alittle weak for such a serious matter? Report Abuse
Is it really wrong for a political party to show some form of leadership in this situation?
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Any political party wroth its salt wld move in to re-assure the bruised racial harmonies by these 2, by speaking to the nation at large, abt possible solutions, such work shops to help the peers of jessica and tshidi to off load this racism burden they obviously carry, a political party worth its salt is not going to seek quick fix solution to an ever lasting social problem, that is all I am saying iro this. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
The problem here Rothschilds goes deeper than Jessica and Tshidi these 2 are just side effect of the rpoblem we have been living with as a nation, hence I say first step should be for us to be open and honest acknowledge that racism is to a large degree still a cancer devouring our democracy alive, and we shld get our act together for the sake of our future leaders (jessicas and tshidis) to sincerely work towards erading racism, instead of setting up the victims to pose for a photo shoot and pretend we are healed, this is like treating aids with beetroot and garlic, come on we should rise above this mediocre, Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Sgodiphola
This Mmusi Maimane guy is chancer and has lost touch with reality if he believes that this pretense is the real thing. In fact i think he is very naive and arrogant. But then again one does not expect much from puppets like him. Jerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr man. Report Abuse
victims of crime of any kind incl racism, need understanding, from understanding the perp will have empathy, then perp will be willing to work towards finding lasting solutions to heal deep scars of racism, in order for one to have understanding they need to listen without being defensive, and appreciate the damage their actions/beliefs causes the other party, they also need to be wholeheartedly commit to changing their ways, I don't see this in the body language of the 2 and maimane must not dare take us for fools cause that makes most even more angry, and that he pulls this stance under the DA banner makes the act even more shameful. Please DA supporters try to get the point already. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
cornelius
@ somaartakeit. The fact that they have put upa reconiliation shoe does not mean they cannot still be hauled before the equality court for their utterances. I think I read that someone has laid a charge. That will have to proceed unless the person withdraws it. The apologies they have made now will obviously serve as extenuating, but if they had not apologised, woul dyou not have condemned them ebven more for not apologizing ? That would have made the whole thing, the vicious cycle, worse. It ma be that their apolgoies are not sincere, but that is still better than allowing this thing to snowball. I think the incident has caused a lot of people to just think again about the stupidity of racial prejudice and the hurt it can cause. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
Can those saying its a good thing which maimane is doing please tell us why were the parents (source of the racism passed on to their children) were excluded from this meeting, cause they need to explain themselves and their beliefs, they also need rehabilitation from this ingrained racism which they're infecting their children with, that wld have been to me a realistic possible solution, but no we are subjected to 'we are not racist' jingoism passed on as a concl, and somehow we should be okay with this?
on the flip side of the coin, thanks to these two M O R O N S for testing the waters and checking how effective is the social media in exposing hidden RACISTS amongst our society, wonder what's next? Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
mambaaai
Sgodiphola
At the end of the it was just words they tweeted they didnt actually do anything, but their words created a whole lot of unhappiness in our society and may have even translated into bad deeds in our society.....
Racist people or groups around the world always looks twisted.... because the comments and deeds the racist do show about who they are inside and mostly has nothing to do with the innocent persons
Budapat: EXCELLENT: Never thought of that aspect. Thanks for lifting it out. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
RobinH
mambaai: Words reflect the way people's minds work. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@mambaaai
Sgodiphola
At the end of the it was just words they tweeted they didnt actually do anything, but their words created a whole lot of unhappiness in our society and may have even translated into bad deeds in our society.....
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They did a lot of harm to the TRC process and aspiration for a rainbown nation, we must never underestimate the power of the words used, cause when we do, we allow ourselves to accept racism as a normal way of life or acceptable way to express anger or frustration, we must settle for nothing less than a 100% apology and acknowledgement of the racism displayed by these 2 and commitment on their part to engage in some rehabilitation to help them be exorcised of the racism demons. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
1tsotsi
So this maimane boy is trying to score some political points? How cheap, another stunt man.... Tsek to those two girls.. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
mambaaai
somaartakeit
I agree with the d3mon part... because what they do is h@rm OUR society.... regardless of which side its from.....
those little b!mbo tweets have rippled though OUR society and vpset every one.... all sides must r00t it our even if its c0ming from their 0wn side... because its just plain dvmb and @ffects everyone Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Fanle
Racism very bad, but we also need to deal with Tribalism kuthina black South Africans
We do not have common identity. We undermine and disrespect each other.
soon these two M O R O N S will be part of some NGO teaching people about how BAD or GOOD the internet is or even how they could be used as ''ROLE MODELS'' to people thinking RA CI SM is the way to go.
SWAK PUBLICITY - community service is the punishment they gonna get I guess ''HRC'', South Africans we need to stop politicising everything but deal with SOCIETAL issues, head on!! Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@Fanle
"We do not have common identity. We undermine and disrespect each other" P0wer to that!
"Do we expect white ppl to stop rasism utterances?" Why shouldn't they since its classified as crime under SAn laws? Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
The-Rothschilds
Budapat
on the flip side of the coin, thanks to these two M O R O N S for testing the waters and checking how effective is the social media in exposing hidden RACISTS amongst our society, wonder what's next?
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The same social media was responsible for taking out Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Yemen..................soon to take out Syria, Russia, China, UK, US, France, Spain, Italy. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
piet
@ MAIMANE
ur talking crab bru, those ladies ar racists dats all,she even have guts to tweet it even,she was fully awake and concious when she writes her tweets.
@Piet I think what most expect is sincerity in this whole saga apology offered with 'but's' is not sincere and further denying that they are not racist when it is obvious further rubs salt into the wounds,
for my part I wld settle for apology if I felt its sincere, cause I am not perfect I am also prone to human errros but to make this a publicity stunts is what grinds my liver.... Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschilds
Budapat
"The same social media was responsible for taking out Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Yemen..................soon to take out Syria, Russia, China, UK, US, France, Spain, Italy..." that my friend is what I call snap the power, that's why politicians ganged up against the guy involved with in the wiki leaks files, they don't want guys like that to make us the masses clever by giving us uncensored info, cause they are control n$ws networks . Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
Nincompoop
LESSON LEARNT; DON'T TWEET OR FACEBOOK WHEN ANGRY OR DRUNK. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
piet
@ somaartakeit
i read most of yo comments nowadays,u seem you came to the party,ur nolonger opposite al the time
thanx bru
their meeting with MAIMANE doe snt rub anything out, they wer ther just to warm his ballz in this winter time,thats why he can talk dat bull. Report Abuse
NEXT ARE RACIST BLOGGERS, WATCH OUT WHAT YOU SAY ON ANY BLOG, YOU MIGHT BE NEXT.
ACCESS TO INFORMATION MAY FORCE YOU TO COME OUT IN THE OPEN. Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
KasiKid
Mxm, who are they fooling, bloody idiots... Report Abuse
May 10, 2012
JajazQueen
@Firefly
DA is just trying to win points here.
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DA is so twisted...let them keep exposing themselves for who they really are.
NO MAAN MENSE!!!!
Just by looking at this pic you can tell gore thsidi was'nt feeling this at all.
The way a i tshwereng dinoka ka teng neh. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
nkotekapeleketatile
@Mnyamane
I thought I was the only one who noticed. Tshidi bathong! Report Abuse
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somaartakeit
so is that how this maimane solve the obviously racist problem? and the DA feels proud about this why? ONLY IF there were real political alternatives the anc wldn't rub it on our faces that they will rule till Christ returns, judging by calibre of politics of the opposition no wonder the anc is confident in its arrogantly ruling us aground,Report Abuse
Papage
Does this meeting remove their guilt? The fact of the matter is they are racist, period, maybe it worked for you Maimane, not me, as far as i am concern they must be charged by human rights commission, like all those who comitted same crime.Report Abuse
dimpho_4U
yoh hai..enough with these two already!!Report Abuse
RobinH
Maimane said: “Its been a journey for both Jess and for Tshidi...and that "he would write a letter to the Human Rights Commission containing evidence about the matter".
How's this for a laugh. What journey, Maimane? The massive distance between being a complete racist arsehole to becoming a beacon of racial tolerance in three easy steps? Such deeply entrenched beliefs that lead one to respond in such nasty fashion almost subconsciously to such petty situations do not sommer dissolve after being exposed to that toothy fake smile. Do you honestly think we are that thick? As for "evidence" what evidence could you as a rank outsider presume to submit that might have any value at all? Character references from school principals? A letter from some or other pastor singing the praises for the sweet little whomever? Come now, Sir. As a political gambit this one is worthy of a Grade 1.
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1stepAtyme
@Papage could not have agreed with you more.We must empose the strongest possible sentence to anyone showing racial intolerance. Irrespective of his/her colour or creed.
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sakhomba
good for you ladies. after so much hard work of deliberations and articulations on the matter. I invite you to come rest on my ball's.Report Abuse
BaleliM
Oh please!! if this had not gone to paper, none of them would have had the decency to apologise. I despise pretense!!Report Abuse
Shwabada
Thank you for this PR stant. I know that these girls are still racist. Are they going to be taken to any counsilling?Report Abuse
somaartakeit
and that "he would write a letter to the Human Rights Commission containing evidence about the matter".------------------------------------------------------For a political solution maimane? goes to show that the so called born fr33 is a load of bullocks tauted by the DA cause they can't truly appreciate gains of the TRC process and the hard work (racial healing process) which had to take place, and is obvious to everyone taht such has not happened hence the underlying racist tones in the attitudes of the supposedly born fr33.
This maimane is fake and insult to our intelligence. Please God help SA to create a political alternative which will help us deal fair and honestly with our social issues so we can all find a resolution and way forward. Cause right now we have politicians insulting our pain (racial disharmony) and thinking its a big joke,
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sabza007
@BaleliMOh please!! if this had not gone to paper, none of them would have had the decency to apologise. I despise pretense!!
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I agree 110% with you .Since this Jessica chick has apologized, will the Sponsors revert their decisions ? My opinion is that they shouldn't re-instate her.
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Diva7
That hand shake doen't look sincere @ all. It's like they were blackmailed into touching each other. What a waist of media coverage. Pathetic PR stuntReport Abuse
somaartakeit
the reason our country has not effectively dealt with its past is cause we have fake leaders like maimane and the rest of the corrupt l00ting thus deflecting national issues, which sporadically come up when ordinary SAns are confronted with difficulties as in the case of these 2 racist girls.Report Abuse
fizo
I think everything is now taken out of propotion..I mean you can't even say something on social media because they will say you are a racist..NO Ways i don't see anything wrong about people who express their frastration on tweeter or facebook...there's no need for politicians to monitor our comments and make agenda out of it... i won't mind if someone called me K...cos i know it doesn't represent me but his own frastration and his devil spirit so everything here in Mzantsi it's now racism and some even lie becasue they understand that people will bag them..
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Shredder
The two racists shaking hands.Report Abuse
DJWinner
I'm tired of these 2 already. Anyways who take naked people seriously?Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@ShredderThe two racists shaking hands. LoL
it must have given maimane a hard on to finally meet porn star jessica in person, talk abt our politics being reduced to just an ejaculation!!! DA you have lost my support for sure.
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RobinH
Shredder, and a fake mediator grinning whilst trying to milk this pathetic display with all the right backpatting being dealt out by Mrs Hitler and co. Puke puke.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
Was everybody clothed during the mediation? or can we expect a video in the near future of a naked DA speaker with a hard on surrounded himself with half naked air heads models of racism?Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
Christ people, give the models a break..............they have peanut sized brains..........can one really blame them for there stupidity??As for the DA.................thanks again for at least trying to bring some light to such a dark situation!
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The-Rothschilds
there = their (typo)Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschilds"As for the DA.................thanks again for at least trying to bring some light to such a dark situation" pray tell what light Rothschilds? *SMH*
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Shredder
Maimane you have done your part; I commend you for that. You didn't spit gal and shout racism, at least you have done something to bring the two racists together. Who knows what will these 2 do in future to bring the nation together? They might even become good friends from now on. "And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not."Report Abuse
RobinH
Rothschilds - Not blaming them for their inate stupidity. BUT I am annoyed at the blatant attempt by this nothing of a political wannabe trying to milk what is seesntially just a petty spat between two remarkably switched off individuals with massive chips on their over-exposed shoulders. Trying to use this is a really pathetic ploy.Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeitThe fact that after what was said, that they both could look each other in the eye and hold each others hands........................its a big thing to do after such hurtful things are said you know! Give them a tiiinnnnyyy bit of credit.
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somaartakeit
@Shredder please can you not see this is a cheap political publicity? I just didn't expect that the DA wld stoop this low. I still have to recover from shock.Report Abuse
Phunyukabemphethe
DJWinnerI'm tired of these 2 already. Anyways who take naked people seriously?
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No man, there is worst racist by the name of Ken Sinclair on facebook, Cape Peninsula University of Technology ( CPUT) log now
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somaartakeit
@The-RothschildsSo what Tony Blair posed with Gadafi did that mean they were bosom friends? This nation needs serious and sincere solutions to our national problem not bubble gum solutions.
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RobinH
Phunyukabemphethe: I agree. That man is beyond any form of rationale.Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
RobinHWhy is he a political wannabe?
How hard must it of being for that poor black man (that probably gets attacked left right and center from his fellow black majority for being part of the DA) to invite this white girl into his home after the horrific things she said???
I think we should give him a bell's! Would you invite someone like that into your home?
I think we should just try and see that somehow, all the peanut brained people could learn a lesson from this.
But both these girls should both feel the wrath of the law!
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Shredder
@somaartakeit - @Shredder please can you not see this is a cheap political publicity?==============================================================================
It doesn't really matter. You know what? The ANC can start fighting DA for stealing votes by this action. Agg, it doesn't really matter. it's good that the two racists came face to face with each other rather hiding behind their technology toys. They should have scratched each other.
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tpaz
Tshidi's body language does not show any remorseReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@PhunyukabemphetheDJWinner
"No man, there is worst racist by the name of Ken Sinclair on facebook, Cape Peninsula University of Technology ( CPUT) log now" why was he not invited to the maimane strip tease racism show? sorry I forgot he wanted the girls all to himself *feel sorry for his w!fe*
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tpaz
they should have stripped naked for charity. Ddoobs & DJWinner being the beneficiaries.Report Abuse
Shredder
@RobinHPhunyukabemphethe: I agree. That man is beyond any form of rationale.
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No, no, no. It's a good thing Maimane brought the two racists together. I hope Sowetan brings RobinH and tpaz together or DJWINNER and RobinH together :)
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somaartakeit@The-Rothschilds
So what Tony Blair posed with Gadafi did that mean they were bosom friends? This nation needs serious and sincere solutions to our national problem not bubble gum solutions.
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I agree with the serious solutions part.
But no political party has come up with a anti racial campaign that could really put a dent in racism...................thats probably because the ANC thrives out white racism. And the DA needs to realize that racism is a major threat to our democracy!
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somaartakeit
@Shredder@somaartakeit - @Shredder please can you not see this is a cheap political publicity?
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It doesn't really matter. You know what? The ANC can start fighting DA for stealing votes by this action.
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LoL apparently the anc is hard at work, campaigning for votes from Afrik aans speaking SAns, they are so busy the prolly didn't know if there was anyone called Jessica and Tshidi, lol and according to the M&G their campaign is going well, you see the anc silly as they are in handling our national issues, but you gotta give it to them, they channel their resources were it matter most and they are effective, that's why they are confident that they will rule till Christ comes back, lol
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RobinH
Shredder. I have no beef with those people personally. I simply refuse to bow down to racists. But I get the point.Report Abuse
Vat_Alles
The Black one is still not buying itReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@vat_Alles, they're both are not buying if you look at body language of both, that is why it is a shame that Rothschilds wld think that the DA did anything significant in this respect,Report Abuse
tpaz
@Vat_Alles......and the pin.k one is going hungryReport Abuse
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit@vat_Alles, they're both are not buying if you look at body language of both, that is why it is a shame that Rothschilds wld think that the DA did anything significant in this respect,
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Why is it a shame that i feel the DA at least tried to do something right? Even if it doesnt work, it was the right thing to do i feel.
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TKay
@maimane - what a publicity stuntReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@Rothschilds, the courts should be afforded opportunity to teach these 2 racist girls a lesson without being hindered/pre-emptied by political interference.Report Abuse
Bdoobs
The truth is out there and the evidence is there for everyone to see, they can shake hands till next year, one is racist and the other one is just like me, she just can stand the racist. What you see is lights, camera, action.Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit@Rothschilds, the courts should be afforded opportunity to teach these 2 racist girls a lesson without being hindered/pre-emptied by political interference.
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Ofcourse the courts must handle them and charge them. But theres nothing wrong with what this guy did..............even out of his personal capacity to invite this white girl into his house after what she said amazes me. I dont think Madam Zille said to him: nows our chance to take advantage. Im entitled to my beliefs.
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somaartakeit
and in anycase Rothschilds everyone incl the criminals are trying to do something in order to sustain whatever it is they are involved with, but the difference is that public servants must do something which will result in a positive difference in our lives, now please go look in the pic and tell me if the goal has been achieved, both are just posing for cameras but still bore ill feelings, don't take my word for it look at both their body languages in the picture accompanying the article.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
and this quick fix solution reminds of ppl who are food binging to try drown real problem which makes them to seek solace in binging to escape their realities, wena Rothschilds you expect that we are satisfied with fake displays of reconciliation, if this was a success both girls wld have ADMITTED their guilt and then maimane as a guardian in this matter, wld suggest that we do this or that to help the girls to handle racial issues better in the future, now they are both denying they are racist when its obvious, how is this effective resolution or intervention by maimane?Report Abuse
Elton4real
I really do not see the point in Mr Maimane's way off trying to resolve the matter, what both those girls said is inexcusable, they both past racial comments fully aware of the consequences, and to have them meet does not change anything, its even more sad that in a Country that has had its fair share of racial injustice we still have racial and discriminative comments being past on after 18 years into our democracy, secondly you should always take what ever people say out of anger seriously, because it is their opinion on what ever matter that angered them, both those girls made those comment out of anger, and I believe they should be prosecuted for their actions...and I'm specking out for anger.Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeitIts a start, noone said it was the solution.
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Tsokombela
they pretending, if der wasnt lost contracts der wuldnt be an apologyReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschildssomaartakeit
Its a start, noone said it was the solution.
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Sorry but how can one start by being insincere and expect that such insincerity is supported and embraced as a 'good start'?
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The-Rothschilds
somaartakeitPeople make mistakes, they are y.oung, b.ainless, they acted out of anger and a.ngry people can use de.humanizing terminology, doesnt mean they truly h.ate certain races.
I am 1000% against racism, but we are all guilty of been racist at least once in our lives, even you are........you are openly racist on this blog at times.
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The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit@The-Rothschilds
somaartakeit
Its a start, noone said it was the solution.
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Sorry but how can one start by being insincere and expect that such insincerity is supported and embraced as a 'good start'?
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noone said it was a good start either, but its a start.
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ThirdEye
The DA guy is scoring political point, but I doubt it will change anything to these two ladies.Report Abuse
sabza007
Can Maimane take a Farmer and a farm worker to bring them to his house and ''reconcile'' them? I don't think so.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@The-Rothschildssomaartakeit
"I am 1000% against racism, but we are all guilty of been racist at least once in our lives, even you are........you are openly racist on this blog at times" I agree that we are passively or actively guilty of this, only because we leadership vacuum who use this real threat to our democracy as a publicity stance just as in this case, so who in the h#ll will we as a nation ever overcome our racial barriers? Rothschilds don't get me wrong all I want are REAL and GENUINE solutions/actions towards solving the problem and I will accept nothing less from our so called leaders, wena nje you are defending the DA regardless of the glaring fact that this is a mere publicity stunt at expense of those truly offended by remarks from both girls,
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cornelius
@somaartakeit ( and others). There were two options : leave the whole unsavoury matter hanging in the air, or do something to make it better. You have all seen the outburst of racial mudslinging on socialnetworks that followed this story. It is the kind of self perpetuating , vicious cycle, that this country defenitely does not need. I fail to grasp the negative reaction to this reconciliation. Somaartakeit , they were never going to admit they are racists, it does not work that way. The best that one can hope for isd that the underlying racism, which I always maintain is caused by ignorance, will have been reduced by the act of reconciliation. The blonde now understands better, and so does the brunette.Bravo Mr Maimane - your intervention put an end to a vicious cycle of racial hatred and showed that these kinds of problems are caused by over hasty reactions to situations.
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The-Rothschilds
sabza007Can Maimane take a Farmer and a farm worker to bring them to his house and ''reconcile'' them? I don't think so.
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I dont think theres any chance of reconciling a boss and the worker in any society :)
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somaartakeit
You are passively condoning these girls by not condeming this maimane whose main ambition is publicity, this is a real issue for SAns, do you not understand this? this is a pain to many of us when you can appreciate that, then you will condemn intentions of maimane in this,Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@cornelius@somaartakeit ( and others). There were two options : leave the whole unsavoury matter hanging in the air, or do something to make it better.
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So God Maimane to save the day? What a simplistic view? I disagree with you, this case is in the hands of the courts, who will view it without emotions but based on facts as outlined in the statutes of SA iro racism, maimane is interfering in the name of the DA, do you guys not see anything wrong with this, or your blind support for the DA makes it impossible to condemn one of your own when using the name of the DA in vain?
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RobinH
Somaar... : EXACTLY!Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeitOk i am sorry, i dont defend the DA on this............i just defend the situation.........that bringing these two girls together was a start. If this was publicity stunt for the DA to gain votes at the expense of all those that are deeply hurt by racism in general, then to hell with the DA..........happy? :)
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somaartakeit
@The-Rothschildssomaartakeit
"Ok i am sorry, i dont defend the DA on this............i just defend the situation.........that bringing these two girls together was a start.." Bringing the girls in the name of the DA is what is the problem here, do you not see that? if he was doing it in his person capacity. You also must now admit that Dzel was right when alluding to the fact that jessica was DA member/supporter? Do you guys really not see how you continue making same mistakes made by anc supporters of blind supporting?
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somaartakeit
And why were their parents excl in this event by Maimane? cause racism is a learned trait, in the same way that manners are learned in the development process.Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeitIs it really wrong for a political party to show some form of leadership in this situation?...............even if it maybe was alittle weak for such a serious matter?
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Msiphos00
Let me rise to fame:READ MY RACIST REMARK BELOW
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somaartakeit
@The-Rothschildssomaartakeit
Is it really wrong for a political party to show some form of leadership in this situation?
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Any political party wroth its salt wld move in to re-assure the bruised racial harmonies by these 2, by speaking to the nation at large, abt possible solutions, such work shops to help the peers of jessica and tshidi to off load this racism burden they obviously carry, a political party worth its salt is not going to seek quick fix solution to an ever lasting social problem, that is all I am saying iro this.
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somaartakeit
The problem here Rothschilds goes deeper than Jessica and Tshidi these 2 are just side effect of the rpoblem we have been living with as a nation, hence I say first step should be for us to be open and honest acknowledge that racism is to a large degree still a cancer devouring our democracy alive, and we shld get our act together for the sake of our future leaders (jessicas and tshidis) to sincerely work towards erading racism, instead of setting up the victims to pose for a photo shoot and pretend we are healed, this is like treating aids with beetroot and garlic, come on we should rise above this mediocre,Report Abuse
Sgodiphola
This Mmusi Maimane guy is chancer and has lost touch with reality if he believes that this pretense is the real thing. In fact i think he is very naive and arrogant. But then again one does not expect much from puppets like him. Jerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr man.Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
somaartakeitAgreed and points taken.
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somaartakeit
victims of crime of any kind incl racism, need understanding, from understanding the perp will have empathy, then perp will be willing to work towards finding lasting solutions to heal deep scars of racism, in order for one to have understanding they need to listen without being defensive, and appreciate the damage their actions/beliefs causes the other party, they also need to be wholeheartedly commit to changing their ways, I don't see this in the body language of the 2 and maimane must not dare take us for fools cause that makes most even more angry, and that he pulls this stance under the DA banner makes the act even more shameful. Please DA supporters try to get the point already.Report Abuse
cornelius
@ somaartakeit. The fact that they have put upa reconiliation shoe does not mean they cannot still be hauled before the equality court for their utterances. I think I read that someone has laid a charge. That will have to proceed unless the person withdraws it. The apologies they have made now will obviously serve as extenuating, but if they had not apologised, woul dyou not have condemned them ebven more for not apologizing ? That would have made the whole thing, the vicious cycle, worse. It ma be that their apolgoies are not sincere, but that is still better than allowing this thing to snowball. I think the incident has caused a lot of people to just think again about the stupidity of racial prejudice and the hurt it can cause.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
Can those saying its a good thing which maimane is doing please tell us why were the parents (source of the racism passed on to their children) were excluded from this meeting, cause they need to explain themselves and their beliefs, they also need rehabilitation from this ingrained racism which they're infecting their children with, that wld have been to me a realistic possible solution, but no we are subjected to 'we are not racist' jingoism passed on as a concl, and somehow we should be okay with this?SA we can do better than this.
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Budapat
on the flip side of the coin, thanks to these two M O R O N S for testing the waters and checking how effective is the social media in exposing hidden RACISTS amongst our society, wonder what's next?Report Abuse
mambaaai
SgodipholaAt the end of the it was just words they tweeted they didnt actually do anything, but their words created a whole lot of unhappiness in our society and may have even translated into bad deeds in our society.....
Racist people or groups around the world always looks twisted.... because the comments and deeds the racist do show about who they are inside and mostly has nothing to do with the innocent persons
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RobinH
Budapat: EXCELLENT: Never thought of that aspect. Thanks for lifting it out.Report Abuse
RobinH
mambaai: Words reflect the way people's minds work.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@mambaaaiSgodiphola
At the end of the it was just words they tweeted they didnt actually do anything, but their words created a whole lot of unhappiness in our society and may have even translated into bad deeds in our society.....
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They did a lot of harm to the TRC process and aspiration for a rainbown nation, we must never underestimate the power of the words used, cause when we do, we allow ourselves to accept racism as a normal way of life or acceptable way to express anger or frustration, we must settle for nothing less than a 100% apology and acknowledgement of the racism displayed by these 2 and commitment on their part to engage in some rehabilitation to help them be exorcised of the racism demons.
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1tsotsi
So this maimane boy is trying to score some political points? How cheap, another stunt man.... Tsek to those two girls..Report Abuse
mambaaai
somaartakeitI agree with the d3mon part... because what they do is h@rm OUR society.... regardless of which side its from.....
those little b!mbo tweets have rippled though OUR society and vpset every one.... all sides must r00t it our even if its c0ming from their 0wn side... because its just plain dvmb and @ffects everyone
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Fanle
Racism very bad, but we also need to deal with Tribalism kuthina black South AfricansWe do not have common identity. We undermine and disrespect each other.
Do we expect white ppl to stop rasism utterances?
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Budapat
soon these two M O R O N S will be part of some NGO teaching people about how BAD or GOOD the internet is or even how they could be used as ''ROLE MODELS'' to people thinking RA CI SM is the way to go.SWAK PUBLICITY - community service is the punishment they gonna get I guess ''HRC'', South Africans we need to stop politicising everything but deal with SOCIETAL issues, head on!!
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somaartakeit
@Fanle"We do not have common identity. We undermine and disrespect each other" P0wer to that!
"Do we expect white ppl to stop rasism utterances?" Why shouldn't they since its classified as crime under SAn laws?
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The-Rothschilds
Budapaton the flip side of the coin, thanks to these two M O R O N S for testing the waters and checking how effective is the social media in exposing hidden RACISTS amongst our society, wonder what's next?
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The same social media was responsible for taking out Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Yemen..................soon to take out Syria, Russia, China, UK, US, France, Spain, Italy.
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piet
@ MAIMANEur talking crab bru, those ladies ar racists dats all,she even have guts to tweet it even,she was fully awake and concious when she writes her tweets.
she can go to hell maaaan and apology my foot
good pretenders and fake smiles
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somaartakeit
@Piet I think what most expect is sincerity in this whole saga apology offered with 'but's' is not sincere and further denying that they are not racist when it is obvious further rubs salt into the wounds,for my part I wld settle for apology if I felt its sincere, cause I am not perfect I am also prone to human errros but to make this a publicity stunts is what grinds my liver....
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somaartakeit
@The-RothschildsBudapat
"The same social media was responsible for taking out Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Yemen..................soon to take out Syria, Russia, China, UK, US, France, Spain, Italy..." that my friend is what I call snap the power, that's why politicians ganged up against the guy involved with in the wiki leaks files, they don't want guys like that to make us the masses clever by giving us uncensored info, cause they are control n$ws networks .
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Nincompoop
LESSON LEARNT; DON'T TWEET OR FACEBOOK WHEN ANGRY OR DRUNK.Report Abuse
piet
@ somaartakeiti read most of yo comments nowadays,u seem you came to the party,ur nolonger opposite al the time
thanx bru
their meeting with MAIMANE doe snt rub anything out, they wer ther just to warm his ballz in this winter time,thats why he can talk dat bull.
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Firefly
DA is just trying to win points here.Report Abuse
Nincompoop
NEXT ARE RACIST BLOGGERS, WATCH OUT WHAT YOU SAY ON ANY BLOG, YOU MIGHT BE NEXT.ACCESS TO INFORMATION MAY FORCE YOU TO COME OUT IN THE OPEN.
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KasiKid
Mxm, who are they fooling, bloody idiots...Report Abuse
JajazQueen
@FireflyDA is just trying to win points here.
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DA is so twisted...let them keep exposing themselves for who they really are.
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Mnyamane
NO MAAN MENSE!!!!Just by looking at this pic you can tell gore thsidi was'nt feeling this at all.
The way a i tshwereng dinoka ka teng neh.
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nkotekapeleketatile
@MnyamaneI thought I was the only one who noticed. Tshidi bathong!
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uMnuz
Not a braincell between them.Report Abuse
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