Tue May 21 02:49:17 SAST 2013

Drive to help e-toll legal challenge

May 8, 2012 | Sapa | 49 comments

A FUND-RAISING initiative to help cover the costs of a legal challenge to the proposed Gauteng e-tolling is set to be launched

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Tue May 21 02:49:17 SAST 2013 ::
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May 8, 2012

Pointman

Come on people - send a small amount - even if it is R20.00 - when they give out their bank details. Once the tolls are in they will never be taken out again. The tolls have paid for the road to Durban 3 times over by now I suspect but the toll gates are still there.
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May 8, 2012

tpaz

I will definitely support the fund raising : You guaranteed R100 from me.

R100 x 1 million road users = R100 million.
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May 8, 2012

Bra_NeatDick

what happens to the excess over de legal costs
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May 8, 2012

CheeseBoy

This is one initiative I can support 100%
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May 8, 2012

tpaz

@Bra_NeatDick......donate to charity. The accounts will be audited.
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May 8, 2012

MrPresident

Go for it OUTA, You have my full support. Together we can do more...to bring down eToll... Just provide us with the banking details and it's all systems go... Phansi nge eThief phansi
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May 8, 2012

Bra_NeatDick

tpaz
@Bra_NeatDick......donate to charity. The accounts will be audited.

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Donating is not a problem (m also affected by de tolls), bt one needs to ask these questions just incase I find my money goin to de DA or FFP. So OUTA needs to be transparent as well.
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May 8, 2012

truthhurt

How much, name your price? i will be more than happy and more than willing to make a generous contribution to any good course, and this is one of such!

Banking details please?
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May 8, 2012

GiGi_What

A gud initiative indeed, but transparency is also key.

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May 8, 2012

SHANTI

OUTA you have my 100% support. Guys R50 rand won't make any of us broke as compared to paying this Fu*#n e-thief for life. Up with OUTA down with SCAMRAL and cANCer.
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May 8, 2012

Papage

No, No NO, We must stop this Government for taking us for granded, the tolling of Gauteng was done without consulting us, we were made to believe this was a legacy for the World Cup 2010 and now the world cup is gone, then we must pay for the beautifying of the Country because what you call important visitors come and gone. We are paying a lot on petrol levy already, Government must see where to find the money to pay their debts, it is not our debts.
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May 8, 2012

itsme4sure

Perfect.....R1000 will be my contributions....send your banking details.

But please.....we request and demand that you are transparent as to where the funds will be utilized...or else we will retaliatory actions against you.....we (the public) had enough, and its time our money is used for its intended purpose and not for your own enrichment.

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May 8, 2012

Fancylibra

okay, that i can support, i'll donate atleast R100, not 2 b robbed daylight.
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May 8, 2012

SHANTI

@Bra_NeatDick
"what happens to the excess over de legal costs"

THE EXCESS FUNDS WILL BE USED TO REMOVE AND OR DEMOLISH THOSE GANTRIES AND ANY STRUCTURE NEXT TO THEM SO THAT THIS RUBB!SH IS BURRIED AND NO ONE WILL EVER THINK OF REVIVING IT. THOSE PAYPOINT BUILDINGS MUST BE TURNED INTO ROAD HOUSE.

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May 8, 2012

itsme4sure

BREAKING NEWS: Sanral CEO quits - report

http://www.iol.co.za/news/special-features/sanral-ceo-quits-report-1.1291360


Sanral CEO Nazir Alli has resigned, a week after a judge called a halt to the controversial Gauteng e-tolling system, a report has said.

According to the Mail & Guardian, the board of the South African Roads Agency Limited has accepted Alli’s resignation, the agency said on Tuesday morning.

Sanral’s chair, Tembakazi Mnyaka, reportedly said that Alli would stay on in his post until the beginning of June. - IOL

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May 8, 2012

CheeseBoy

Breaking NEWS

South African National Roads Agency Limited CEO Nazir Alli has resigned, the roads agency says.
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May 8, 2012

Bra_NeatDick

@ SHANTI, I can live with that. kwaaa kwwaaaa kwaa. dats soo hilarious.
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May 8, 2012

truthhurt

Way To Go SHANTI

THE EXCESS FUNDS WILL BE USED TO REMOVE AND OR DEMOLISH THOSE GANTRIES AND ANY STRUCTURE NEXT TO THEM SO THAT THIS RUBB!SH IS BURRIED AND NO ONE WILL EVER THINK OF REVIVING IT. THOSE PAYPOINT BUILDINGS MUST BE TURNED INTO ROAD HOUSE.

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Macdonalds can really invest in this, Gantrirs can serve as 1 min stop drive thru, our roads can be maintained from this, and it could feed the nation. wow imagine the posibilities?


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May 8, 2012

theMrs

There is no smoke without fire. Now that Nazir Alli has resigned, it makes it all the more interesting....talk about interference of politicians in the operations of state-owned enterprises...OUTA please provide your banking details
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May 8, 2012

rasefatee

give us the account number as soon as possible ready with R200 donation i certainly hatee the name etoll
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May 8, 2012

Makhosini0408

Etolling pressure has taken its toll on its first casualty, Sanral CEO has resigned.
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May 8, 2012

TheDictator

If we can unite like this as nation I am convinced we can throw ANC out of the Union Buildings.
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May 8, 2012

itsme4sure

@TheDictator
If we can unite like this as nation I am convinced we can throw ANC out of the Union Buildings.
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as much as we all would like to see that happen....it will not be that easy....the masses will still vote for the ANC...The emotional damage of the apartheid era has left to many scars my friend.

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May 8, 2012

Catswhiskers

E tolling doesn't affect me in the least, but I'm prepared to contribute!
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May 8, 2012

Sjekula

@TheDictator
If we can unite like this as nation I am convinced we can throw ANC out of the Union Buildings.

There you go again, bringing your DA obsession with the ANC. e-Tolling must be fought at all costs, some of us fight fire with fire(crime with crime), still trying to find ways of breaching the system, I'll let you all know as soon as I find it.
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May 8, 2012

TheDictator

@Sjekula
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Am not DA obsessed comrade,I'm just stating the possibility given the unfolding of the e-tolling saga. Remember that e-tolling itself is a political issue,so you cant separate it from politics.
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May 8, 2012

Budapat

nah nah nah, OUTA - BUSINESS & COSATU can fund this initiative without fueling perceptions of CORRUPTION, just swallow your'all pride and work as a collective, NYUKU e setseng ho etsahalang ka yona? got you!!
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May 8, 2012

zaco'z

ya i will put something...thanks Outa!
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May 8, 2012

truthhurt

itsme4sure
@TheDictator
If we can unite like this as nation I am convinced we can throw ANC out of the Union Buildings.
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as much as we all would like to see that happen....it will not be that easy....the masses will still vote for the ANC...The emotional damage of the apartheid era has left to many scars my friend.

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That is the sad part we need to heal and get over it already, some thugs within the organisation are using our emotions against us, its time to grow up people.

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May 8, 2012

Sjekula

@TheDictator
I'm just saying you must not exploit this platform to campaign for your parties, the only organization allowed here is OUTA, not ANC, IFP, DA, FFP, or whatever rubbish you guys call political parties. Ses'khathele ukuthi nasemingcwabeni, emasontweni, nasematoilet silokhu sitshelwa ngama political parties which are all hell bent on laying their dirty hands on state resources.
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May 8, 2012

swona

just be quick, count me on! I will support you guys!
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May 8, 2012

Rockwell

Count me in Wayne, this is a worthy that will benefit all of us..
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May 8, 2012

TheDictator

@Sjekula
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I didnt campaign for any party,equally so the e-toll is the brainchild of the ANC.You cant separate anything in this country from the ANC.RSA is painted black,yellow and green.
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May 8, 2012

itsme4sure

@truthhurt
itsme4sure
@TheDictator
If we can unite like this as nation I am convinced we can throw ANC out of the Union Buildings.
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as much as we all would like to see that happen....it will not be that easy....the masses will still vote for the ANC...The emotional damage of the apartheid era has left to many scars my friend.

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That is the sad part we need to heal and get over it already, some thugs within the organisation are using our emotions against us, its time to grow up people.

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oh believe me some of us are healed brother.....but if we look at the actions of the past weekend, we can safely state that we have a very long way to go.....the majority of voters unfortunately does not have the access to information like you and I have to make a conscious decision to vote out the current regime.....that is the major challenge we have.
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May 8, 2012

Sjekula

@TheDictator
The private sector is white, orange, and blue. e-Tolling affects everyone, irrespective of affiliation, so a win against e-tolling would be the public together with business' victory against the government, not unless the battle is the DA/COSATU brainchild according to you, or even OUTA. I think you look at those colours hence they're all you can see, remember beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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May 8, 2012

oldlady2

Willing to donate R 200.00 per month to OUTA. Only thing, when OUTA wins, and SANRAL is ordered to pay all costs back to OUTA, OUTA must donate the donated money to charity.
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May 8, 2012

Bdoobs

Now, I can put my money on the course. Fukk ANC and its e-tolling...
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May 8, 2012

Phumiem

This is a small price to pay. We need bank details asap.
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May 8, 2012

TheDictator

@ Sjekula
The private sector is white, orange, and blue. e-Tolling affects everyone, irrespective of affiliation, so a win against e-tolling would be the public together with business' victory against the government
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At least now we agree,e-tolling protest is against government.Then who is in charge of government.Where and by whom was the e-toll decision approved?

Wasn't it approved by the ANC in parliament first then implemented by the ANC in government. Victory against e-tolling is victory against the ANC which seeks to undermine the inteligence of the people.
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May 8, 2012

Lehido

I can freely say, The people 1 - Government / SANRAL 0 - Alli has resigned.....Huerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre
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May 8, 2012

Sandile84

I will donate R50, and maybe another R50 later if not enough people didn't donate. Those OUTA guys worked extremely hard and we must help them out to cover legal costs.
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May 8, 2012

Sjekula

@TheDictator
The day you'll understand how people view the ANC, you'll understand that fighting the ANC and fighting the government are two different things. Fighting the ANC is perceived as being bitter since it liberated black people from the apartheid regime, but fighting government is about judging the ANC on it's governance of the country, so you must fight the government and people will understand but the fight against the ANC, chances are, you will not win.
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May 8, 2012

Ventsha

I will give u R 1000.00 give us the details now 100% support
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May 8, 2012

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

OUTA, you have my support

Nazir has resigend, so there wont be anyone from SANRAL kissing my bl.ack a$$
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May 8, 2012

TheDictator

@Sjekula
The day you'll understand how people view the ANC, you'll understand that fighting the ANC and fighting the government are two different things. Fighting the ANC is perceived as being bitter since it liberated black people from the apartheid regime, but fighting government is about judging the ANC on it's governance of the country, so you must fight the government and people will understand but the fight against the ANC, chances are, you will not win.
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Luthuli House gives the Union Building instructions.The Union Buildings gives Parliament instructions.Parliament(majority ANC) authorises and legimises those instructions.Parliament instructs government(ministers,all ANC).The government implements.See how everything has to do with the ANC.

Therefore you cant separate ANC from government.
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May 8, 2012

Sjekula

@TheDictator
The ANC is not it's leadership hence the squable between the NEC and the youth league, in fact the ANC belongs to the people not the other way round, so people would rather get rid of the leadership than detaching themselves from the organization. You must first try to understand the people you're talking about before making conclusions, because basing your judgement on assumptions wont get you anywhere, ask Thabo Mbeki, he didn't take time to understand his constituency and wanted to implement, implement, and implement whilst his constituency was getting more angry. Luthuli House and the Union Buildings is top to bottom politics, but the basics have become difficult to understand for highly politicized people. It is easy for you to the ANC as an entity or something of some sort, but the ANC people do not see it like that, but rather see the leadership as some management, themselves as shareholders.
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May 8, 2012

Ebony.Girl

I am happy to contribute towards this initiative. Well done to Gautengers for standing our ground. We should not stop with this.

And now the CEO resigns...
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May 8, 2012

Sjekula

@TheDictator
It is easy for you to "see" the ANC as an entity or something of some sort, but the ANC people do not see it like that, but rather see the leadership as some management, themselves as shareholders. The ANC people do not see Zuma and his cabinet as the organization, but believe that the organization belongs to them.

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May 9, 2012

Bhubesi

@Sjekula
TheDictator
I'm just saying you must not exploit this platform to campaign for your parties, the only organization allowed here is OUTA, not ANC, IFP, DA, FFP, or whatever rubbish you guys call political parties. Ses'khathele ukuthi nasemingcwabeni, emasontweni, nasematoilet silokhu sitshelwa ngama political parties which are all hell bent on laying their dirty hands on state resources.
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Very true Sjekula, That is the kind of mentality that truly liberates mankind.
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