May 8, 2012 | Kingdom Mabuza, Labour Reporter |
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MORE than 200 scientists, engineers and technicians are on the verge of losing their jobs at the state-owned Nuclear Energy Corporation of SA unless the government intervenes urgently.
salary increases of about 306% while ordinary workers received a mere 4% to 7% increase,
TJO !!!!!
What is the bet that (to add insult to injury) those executives aren't even qualified to sit on the board?
"qualified engineers, technicians and scientists" do not "join the country's growing army of the unemployed". They leave the country and the country loses the ability to carry on with the projects or even to maintain the projects.. Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
mambaaai
MC
I agree, it is stupid. SA has uranium resources, these can be refined for the nuclear power stations around the world... SA was leading the way in pebble bed technology which was looking promising. In terms of the discussion the other day... of taking our products to a final product as opposed to seling the raw product. Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
mambaaai
MC
you also make a good point regarding the salaries... the workers jobs are to work. but the directors are there to direct the company.... In Japan they recognise this simple truth, so when a company gets into this situation the directors have failed to do their jobs go first...because one directors salary pays for thousands of workers...
As a result what one sees in Japan a ship building company for example redirects the company toward building Oil Platforms
BMW for example the insignia is a airoplane propeller, BMW left doing airoplane engines started doing motorcycles then cars
SA could create jobs and exprts if thye directed these scientists and engineers energies into the correct direction Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
Pointman
All the signs of a banana republic emerging fast like Nombembe the auditor general pointed out just yesterday. Incompetent cadres get high profile jobs while highly trained people get sidelined. I know of many educated people looking overseas again. Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
MommaC
mambaaai
Can you just imagine if we placed an export tariff on unfinished minerals and opened factories here? Every dentist and doctor's office in the whole world would have OUR equipment in their surgeries and our unemployment rate would halve. These young engineers and scientists could mentor others who have talent and we could become (once again) world leaders. But no. Rather give some fatcat useless politically affiliated scoundrel a short term get-rich-quick opportunity by placing him on a board of directors.
......all parasitestatals are full of ANC cadres displaying their new ill-gotten fortunes. All want to be executives and all want to belong to the jet-set.......
.....NEHAWU probably has many comrades employed in the high spheres, as it happens in hospitals and clinics........Easier to ask government for bail-out rather than demand firing the supernumerary and useless bureaucracy.......... Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
mambaaai
MC
I agreed, these engineers and scientists are part of the countries scarce resources,,,,all t is required that there efforts and energies are directed. As you say one could apply many models....
perhaps somebody like COSATU should take this type of cause up as it would create more members for them...
or the communist party
the fat cat side of things makes" a better life for all" sound so ironic again Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
My Lord!!!! a hike of 306% this cadres are realy milking the nuke city dry maan yhu haikhona!!! Is this possible Sowetan are you sure?? Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
MommaC
mambaaai
LOL
Cosatu would have them all out on strike and the nuclear waste strewn across the parkinglot before they would do something constructive.
What bugs me the most is that it isn't rocket science. We have the tools available in SA but we keep ignoring them all in favour of attempting to re-invent the wheel Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
Sboro
The people affected fall under the scarce and crirical skills categories. They will be swiftly re-absorbed back into the economic maistream by the lkes of Eskom and SASOL, the former with its build programmes. Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
mambaaai
Sboro this is true although you make a fair point.... although consider if the skill sets they have are regarded as being as directly applicable... and so perhaps it doesent happen just like that, because the old story of experience in that field.
@mrc22
Our Country is going down
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
for real chana
the country will forever nag of scarce skills while it is them letting professionals go to australia, germany,london etc Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
Fat logs in parly. To most being a minister is all about perusing loopholes in the ministerial handbook, they have no clue of how their departments fit into the whole picture and what they should be doing. It's easy to increase your package by 300% if you're reporting to a thick dummy that's only concerned about it's belly. Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
Shredder
"Despite the financial challenges facing the organisation, group executives at Necsa have continued to give themselves exorbitant salary increases of about 306% while ordinary workers received a mere 4% to 7% increase," he said.
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Hayi bo! These comrades are taking the country to the dogs. But why are people so greedy? All they want is more and more money, disregarding the interest of the country and the repercussions of looting money without calculating the aftermath of their actions. The next thing they will say "There is no crisis". Believe you me some people condone this behaviour and their idiotic reasoning is that white people have benefited from apartheid. Nc! Nc! Nc! You are ki.lling your own country and the coming generations.
@ Pointman
All the signs of a banana republic emerging fast like Nombembe the auditor general pointed out just yesterday. Incompetent cadres get high profile jobs while highly trained people get sidelined. I know of many educated people looking overseas again.
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Its the same in the private sector, thats why there's mass retrenchments there too. Not to mention racist. Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
Pointman
@KeRataBasadi - In the private sector, incompetent appointments are the exception and not the rule. And it is not always racist but religious based too. One company I worked for always made sure that when there was a job to be done like carpeting or removing furniture, they brought in someone from their own religion. Their scriptures demand that they do that. Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
Sinudeity
KeRataBasadi - "thats why there's mass retrenchments there too. Not to mention racist.
Report Abuse"
Eh, only in the tenderpreneuring side of the private sector. Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
Budapat
"Despite the financial challenges facing the organisation, group executives at Necsa have continued to give themselves exorbitant salary increases of about 306% while ordinary workers received a mere 4% to 7% increase," he said.
SOWETAN - i have never heard of such a huge increase, even in Zim Dollar it won't sound right. do the honourable thing and verify this article, PLEASE!! Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
imbabazane
How does this measure up to the proposed Nuclear Expansion?
Should these people be retrenched and probably leave the country, 10 year down the line when the New Nuclear Stations are built where will the skills come from?
Grand grand is there no central Planning in this country? Report Abuse
May 8, 2012
TheDictator
He said conditions that led to retrenchments had not changed but that "a R130-million bail-out could reverse the situation".
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Where will the government get R130 billion just to keep staff?Isn't time we heed DA call for privatisation.Can the state really keep bailing out all these parastatals,Eishkom,SAA,SABC,DENEL.
@mambaaai
MC
I agree, it is stupid. SA has uranium resources, these can be refined for the nuclear power stations around the world... SA was leading the way in pebble bed technology which was looking promising. In terms of the discussion the other day... of taking our products to a final product as opposed to selling the raw product.
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True, Thabo Mbeki even raised the same issue during his reign, suggesting that the country's mining sector should redefine its economic strategy and start engaging in secondary mining activities. Like always it was never done but just mere talk. Even if they were to correct this fault now in the mining sector, the sector would still perform poorly than expected because the skills sector has been ignored. Also the information technology gap inside the country is to wide and that does not help the situation either. Political corruption and fraud remains a thread to anything of national/social importance and interest. Report Abuse
May 9, 2012
mambaaai
Thedictator
one looks at some of the parastatals and their reluctance to privatise and then we have e toll Report Abuse
May 9, 2012
mambaaai
Bhubesi
I think it would be easy to encourage these secondary sectors, for the privateeers give tax breaks, relax some of the other impedimants to doing business in SAi and through through this nurturing grow this sector.... but as you say this element in the GVT wont do it unless there is something in there for them.... Ghana for example has done some things in this regard Report Abuse
May 29, 2012
Calvinv
This is just wrong!! The government has spent millions on changing street names, but they will not financially assist NECSA. Very Very Sad!!! Report Abuse
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mrc22
Our Country is going down.Report Abuse
MommaC
salary increases of about 306% while ordinary workers received a mere 4% to 7% increase,TJO !!!!!
What is the bet that (to add insult to injury) those executives aren't even qualified to sit on the board?
"qualified engineers, technicians and scientists" do not "join the country's growing army of the unemployed". They leave the country and the country loses the ability to carry on with the projects or even to maintain the projects..
Report Abuse
mambaaai
MCI agree, it is stupid. SA has uranium resources, these can be refined for the nuclear power stations around the world... SA was leading the way in pebble bed technology which was looking promising. In terms of the discussion the other day... of taking our products to a final product as opposed to seling the raw product.
Report Abuse
mambaaai
MCyou also make a good point regarding the salaries... the workers jobs are to work. but the directors are there to direct the company.... In Japan they recognise this simple truth, so when a company gets into this situation the directors have failed to do their jobs go first...because one directors salary pays for thousands of workers...
As a result what one sees in Japan a ship building company for example redirects the company toward building Oil Platforms
BMW for example the insignia is a airoplane propeller, BMW left doing airoplane engines started doing motorcycles then cars
SA could create jobs and exprts if thye directed these scientists and engineers energies into the correct direction
Report Abuse
Pointman
All the signs of a banana republic emerging fast like Nombembe the auditor general pointed out just yesterday. Incompetent cadres get high profile jobs while highly trained people get sidelined. I know of many educated people looking overseas again.Report Abuse
MommaC
mambaaaiCan you just imagine if we placed an export tariff on unfinished minerals and opened factories here? Every dentist and doctor's office in the whole world would have OUR equipment in their surgeries and our unemployment rate would halve. These young engineers and scientists could mentor others who have talent and we could become (once again) world leaders. But no. Rather give some fatcat useless politically affiliated scoundrel a short term get-rich-quick opportunity by placing him on a board of directors.
Makes me want to slap someone
Report Abuse
kilawea
......all parasitestatals are full of ANC cadres displaying their new ill-gotten fortunes. All want to be executives and all want to belong to the jet-set............NEHAWU probably has many comrades employed in the high spheres, as it happens in hospitals and clinics........Easier to ask government for bail-out rather than demand firing the supernumerary and useless bureaucracy..........
Report Abuse
mambaaai
MCI agreed, these engineers and scientists are part of the countries scarce resources,,,,all t is required that there efforts and energies are directed. As you say one could apply many models....
perhaps somebody like COSATU should take this type of cause up as it would create more members for them...
or the communist party
the fat cat side of things makes" a better life for all" sound so ironic again
Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
My Lord!!!! a hike of 306% this cadres are realy milking the nuke city dry maan yhu haikhona!!! Is this possible Sowetan are you sure??Report Abuse
MommaC
mambaaaiLOL
Cosatu would have them all out on strike and the nuclear waste strewn across the parkinglot before they would do something constructive.
What bugs me the most is that it isn't rocket science. We have the tools available in SA but we keep ignoring them all in favour of attempting to re-invent the wheel
Report Abuse
Sboro
The people affected fall under the scarce and crirical skills categories. They will be swiftly re-absorbed back into the economic maistream by the lkes of Eskom and SASOL, the former with its build programmes.Report Abuse
mambaaai
Sboro this is true although you make a fair point.... although consider if the skill sets they have are regarded as being as directly applicable... and so perhaps it doesent happen just like that, because the old story of experience in that field.Report Abuse
zino
@mrc22Our Country is going down
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
for real chana
the country will forever nag of scarce skills while it is them letting professionals go to australia, germany,london etc
Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
Fat logs in parly. To most being a minister is all about perusing loopholes in the ministerial handbook, they have no clue of how their departments fit into the whole picture and what they should be doing. It's easy to increase your package by 300% if you're reporting to a thick dummy that's only concerned about it's belly.Report Abuse
Shredder
"Despite the financial challenges facing the organisation, group executives at Necsa have continued to give themselves exorbitant salary increases of about 306% while ordinary workers received a mere 4% to 7% increase," he said.================================================================================
Hayi bo! These comrades are taking the country to the dogs. But why are people so greedy? All they want is more and more money, disregarding the interest of the country and the repercussions of looting money without calculating the aftermath of their actions. The next thing they will say "There is no crisis". Believe you me some people condone this behaviour and their idiotic reasoning is that white people have benefited from apartheid. Nc! Nc! Nc! You are ki.lling your own country and the coming generations.
Report Abuse
KeRataBasadi
@ PointmanAll the signs of a banana republic emerging fast like Nombembe the auditor general pointed out just yesterday. Incompetent cadres get high profile jobs while highly trained people get sidelined. I know of many educated people looking overseas again.
______________________________________________________________________________
Its the same in the private sector, thats why there's mass retrenchments there too. Not to mention racist.
Report Abuse
Pointman
@KeRataBasadi - In the private sector, incompetent appointments are the exception and not the rule. And it is not always racist but religious based too. One company I worked for always made sure that when there was a job to be done like carpeting or removing furniture, they brought in someone from their own religion. Their scriptures demand that they do that.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
KeRataBasadi - "thats why there's mass retrenchments there too. Not to mention racist.Report Abuse"
Eh, only in the tenderpreneuring side of the private sector.
Report Abuse
Budapat
"Despite the financial challenges facing the organisation, group executives at Necsa have continued to give themselves exorbitant salary increases of about 306% while ordinary workers received a mere 4% to 7% increase," he said.SOWETAN - i have never heard of such a huge increase, even in Zim Dollar it won't sound right. do the honourable thing and verify this article, PLEASE!!
Report Abuse
imbabazane
How does this measure up to the proposed Nuclear Expansion?
Should these people be retrenched and probably leave the country, 10 year down the line when the New Nuclear Stations are built where will the skills come from?
Grand grand is there no central Planning in this country?
Report Abuse
TheDictator
He said conditions that led to retrenchments had not changed but that "a R130-million bail-out could reverse the situation"..............................................................................
Where will the government get R130 billion just to keep staff?Isn't time we heed DA call for privatisation.Can the state really keep bailing out all these parastatals,Eishkom,SAA,SABC,DENEL.
Privatise,privatise and privatise.
Report Abuse
Bhubesi
@mambaaaiMC
I agree, it is stupid. SA has uranium resources, these can be refined for the nuclear power stations around the world... SA was leading the way in pebble bed technology which was looking promising. In terms of the discussion the other day... of taking our products to a final product as opposed to selling the raw product.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
True, Thabo Mbeki even raised the same issue during his reign, suggesting that the country's mining sector should redefine its economic strategy and start engaging in secondary mining activities. Like always it was never done but just mere talk. Even if they were to correct this fault now in the mining sector, the sector would still perform poorly than expected because the skills sector has been ignored. Also the information technology gap inside the country is to wide and that does not help the situation either. Political corruption and fraud remains a thread to anything of national/social importance and interest.
Report Abuse
mambaaai
Thedictatorone looks at some of the parastatals and their reluctance to privatise and then we have e toll
Report Abuse
mambaaai
BhubesiI think it would be easy to encourage these secondary sectors, for the privateeers give tax breaks, relax some of the other impedimants to doing business in SAi and through through this nurturing grow this sector.... but as you say this element in the GVT wont do it unless there is something in there for them.... Ghana for example has done some things in this regard
Report Abuse
Calvinv
This is just wrong!! The government has spent millions on changing street names, but they will not financially assist NECSA. Very Very Sad!!!Report Abuse
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