Thats just lazy investigations, we were told that all seven are not students of that University.How then did thy all get in? I don't b.u.y this innocence shiit story. When I was still at the Technikon 6 years back, Students were robbed,r.a.p.e.d and sometimes killled by outsiders.The Security company must take responsibility. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
BaleliM
since when are thugs innocent? if they are not students, what were they doing at the campus? Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
Uppercut
Just to think the police station is just a stone throw away from the varsity makes me sick about our police system. That security company is useless period and should be fired. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
MommaC
Which cops are taking protection money from the gang? Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
tlebebe
thugs chilling at the wrong place for the wrong reason. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
RobinH
BaleliM. I think the point is that they were clearly NOT thugs. Surely non-students are allowed to visit campus. I certainly used to visit friends in residence when I was not. I find this whole incident, and the fact that even people miles away just assumed that the 7 men were thugs simply because they were on campus and actually condoned this barbaric behaviour of "students" absolutely shocking. As a people we are losing our sense of perspective entirely. And I blame this fact on the constant disappointments we experience in our country's leadership. No "leadership" emanates from our higher echelons. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
legaleagle2
@RobinH Im a student on campus, and I tell you now, articles were recovered from these people, but its ok, its nothing new, this is what the SAPS does now and again, we are not surprised, not once, since last thursday morning have i seen cops around campus, if they ever questioned anyone, its these guys who got beaten, not the girl who was robbed and later recovered her phone. its ok, no point in arguing about this, students are a lil safer now, i can walk from the library to my room late at night and not feel like im in a war zone. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
RobinH
legaleagle> Being "on campus" is meaningless unless you were actual;ly present at the scene. I'm not actually interested in the guilt or innocence of the people. My horror is that supposedly educated people receiving education in order to become productive citizens should, without trial or any legal process, beat a guy to death. With respect, such behaviour beggars belief. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
Keafixa
seven of his friends were innocent people who had gone to the university to chill with their friends.
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issn't campus for students, so y chill in a campus Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
RobinH
keafixa" Why "chill" on a campus? It is common knowledge that most residences on most campuses sport shebeens or at least informal "bars". Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
legaleagle2
RobinH, do not be self rightous, do not think you know all, do not think you walk 10m above the ground we all walk on.
Ever been raped? Had your belongings stolen? Stabbed tom death? Held at gunpoint for a cellphone when all you know is lectures and textbooks?
What happened is regrettable, but think about it, STUDENTS dont just leave their rooms and decide to be rowdy for no reason.
If my being on campus and way closer to the situation than you are is a nullity, then so are all your views and thoughts on this. Live it before you critic it.
Ive seen how you reply to other people, you wont draw me into that. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
legaleagle2
RobinH do u think before you text? what residences have shebeens or informal bars? Maybe the residences you stayed in, not here. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
RobinH
legaleagle. Apart from r a p e, Yes, I have undergone a vio lent home invasion in w hich I was subjected to prolonged tor ture and then sta bbed and left to d i e, and I feel no ire toward my fellow human beings. Being decent is NOT self-righteous, you unthinking prig. And you are studying law!!!. "Students don't just leave their rooms and decide to be rowdy for no reason." WHAT!?? With respect, that is arrant BS, and you know it. Jeez, I hope you are better in court or your clients are in for a tough time. So don't respond. I care little. Just don't talk such absolute hogwash. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
legaleagle2
LOL, unthinking prig? I think that title suits you more than it does me.
Like i said, ive seen how you reply to other people, when you have no better answer you insult.
and yes im a 19yr old doing my third year, i do my vac-work at the biggest lawfirm in africa, my articles get published, so on that front you need not attack me, it wont work....i will not stoop to your level ma guy... Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
tumzangwana
where are security guards in all of this? if they did their jobs properly nothing of this nature would be happening where we have students maybe facing the possibility of going to jail for defending themselves against thugs. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
RobinH
legaleagle: Well, No-one asked you to blow the big deal trumpet. Your attitude reflects poorly on your abhility to be impartial. Articles publ;ished don't make one invincible. Others do it too, albeit perhaps in different fields. Sure, you proably are a bright lad. I don't dispute that. Add a spot of wisdom and common sense and you may well yet turn out worth someone's investment. But right now.... Oh well. You clearly have enough of an opinion of yourself not to care, so suit yourself. Have a wonderful day. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
SebolaNtimetseAdikateMoketla
Maybe these cops have taken philosophy as a subject
quickly whilst wandering in the campus
so ask them the same question three times or maybe ten times
if they give you the same answer then that is what they mean
im in camp nw nw,its sad,very very sad....ppl are telling different stories,de src,eye witnesses,mafoko,ordinary students...jrrrrrrrrrrrr may be dey r still drunk since we coming from the weekend..........all de evidence dey are giving,it proves dat students were just bitter wth de rapes,murder and other criminal activities dat took place earlier,no one can prove dat those fellows who were attacked are indeed thugs,stop defending this unwanted behaviour guys Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
RobinH
Legaleagle. You clearly are less informed than I thought. I won't bother to deal with that. No further discussions then. Bye. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
SAPS, I dont understand........... last week yuou said a laptop, cellphones were found in possession of the alleged thugs........... *eish confused* Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
RobinH
Kinky: Not jumping either way here. but just wanting to set some kind of perspective here. It is very possible that the cellphones and laptopn actually belonged to the guys that were mobbed. Just a thought. People dowalk around with cellphones. That is the whole point of a so-called "mobile". Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
somaartakeit
an innocent thug? so why is he then labelled a thug? anyway may his sould rest in peace (if he is not guity of any criminal or thuggish behaviour) and just must prevail. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
Shirmy
Then We Arrest the Students!!! Finish & Klaar! Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@RobinH
Kinky: Not jumping either way here. but just wanting to set some kind of perspective here. It is very possible that the cellphones and laptopn actually belonged to the guys that were mobbed. Just a thought. People dowalk around with cellphones. That is the whole point of a so-called "mobile".
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I know what a "mobile" phone is. Dont patronise me.........
Last week it was reported that property found in possession of the alleged thugs was that stolen from the campus............. Report Abuse
May 7, 2012
RobinH
Kinky. Sorry, I was not intending to patronise you. It was a witty aside. You should know me better by now. Sorry if I offended you. I merely suggested a possibility, as I think we can agree that reporting on this has been really poor, even by Sowetan standards. Report Abuse
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Papage
So are you going to arrest the students and charge them with murder, because you say the alleged Thugs are innocent?Report Abuse
legaleagle2
Stolen items recovered from the gang...so, wheres the innocent in that? SAPS will surprise you, I havent even seen them on campus.....Report Abuse
sabza007
Thats just lazy investigations, we were told that all seven are not students of that University.How then did thy all get in? I don't b.u.y this innocence shiit story. When I was still at the Technikon 6 years back, Students were robbed,r.a.p.e.d and sometimes killled by outsiders.The Security company must take responsibility.Report Abuse
BaleliM
since when are thugs innocent? if they are not students, what were they doing at the campus?Report Abuse
Uppercut
Just to think the police station is just a stone throw away from the varsity makes me sick about our police system. That security company is useless period and should be fired.Report Abuse
MommaC
Which cops are taking protection money from the gang?Report Abuse
tlebebe
thugs chilling at the wrong place for the wrong reason.Report Abuse
RobinH
BaleliM. I think the point is that they were clearly NOT thugs. Surely non-students are allowed to visit campus. I certainly used to visit friends in residence when I was not. I find this whole incident, and the fact that even people miles away just assumed that the 7 men were thugs simply because they were on campus and actually condoned this barbaric behaviour of "students" absolutely shocking. As a people we are losing our sense of perspective entirely. And I blame this fact on the constant disappointments we experience in our country's leadership. No "leadership" emanates from our higher echelons.Report Abuse
legaleagle2
@RobinH Im a student on campus, and I tell you now, articles were recovered from these people, but its ok, its nothing new, this is what the SAPS does now and again, we are not surprised, not once, since last thursday morning have i seen cops around campus, if they ever questioned anyone, its these guys who got beaten, not the girl who was robbed and later recovered her phone. its ok, no point in arguing about this, students are a lil safer now, i can walk from the library to my room late at night and not feel like im in a war zone.Report Abuse
RobinH
legaleagle> Being "on campus" is meaningless unless you were actual;ly present at the scene. I'm not actually interested in the guilt or innocence of the people. My horror is that supposedly educated people receiving education in order to become productive citizens should, without trial or any legal process, beat a guy to death. With respect, such behaviour beggars belief.Report Abuse
Keafixa
seven of his friends were innocent people who had gone to the university to chill with their friends.......................................................
issn't campus for students, so y chill in a campus
Report Abuse
RobinH
keafixa" Why "chill" on a campus? It is common knowledge that most residences on most campuses sport shebeens or at least informal "bars".Report Abuse
legaleagle2
RobinH, do not be self rightous, do not think you know all, do not think you walk 10m above the ground we all walk on.Ever been raped? Had your belongings stolen? Stabbed tom death? Held at gunpoint for a cellphone when all you know is lectures and textbooks?
What happened is regrettable, but think about it, STUDENTS dont just leave their rooms and decide to be rowdy for no reason.
If my being on campus and way closer to the situation than you are is a nullity, then so are all your views and thoughts on this. Live it before you critic it.
Ive seen how you reply to other people, you wont draw me into that.
Report Abuse
legaleagle2
RobinH do u think before you text? what residences have shebeens or informal bars? Maybe the residences you stayed in, not here.Report Abuse
RobinH
legaleagle. Apart from r a p e, Yes, I have undergone a vio lent home invasion in w hich I was subjected to prolonged tor ture and then sta bbed and left to d i e, and I feel no ire toward my fellow human beings. Being decent is NOT self-righteous, you unthinking prig. And you are studying law!!!. "Students don't just leave their rooms and decide to be rowdy for no reason." WHAT!?? With respect, that is arrant BS, and you know it. Jeez, I hope you are better in court or your clients are in for a tough time. So don't respond. I care little. Just don't talk such absolute hogwash.Report Abuse
legaleagle2
LOL, unthinking prig? I think that title suits you more than it does me.Like i said, ive seen how you reply to other people, when you have no better answer you insult.
and yes im a 19yr old doing my third year, i do my vac-work at the biggest lawfirm in africa, my articles get published, so on that front you need not attack me, it wont work....i will not stoop to your level ma guy...
Report Abuse
tumzangwana
where are security guards in all of this? if they did their jobs properly nothing of this nature would be happening where we have students maybe facing the possibility of going to jail for defending themselves against thugs.Report Abuse
RobinH
legaleagle: Well, No-one asked you to blow the big deal trumpet. Your attitude reflects poorly on your abhility to be impartial. Articles publ;ished don't make one invincible. Others do it too, albeit perhaps in different fields. Sure, you proably are a bright lad. I don't dispute that. Add a spot of wisdom and common sense and you may well yet turn out worth someone's investment. But right now.... Oh well. You clearly have enough of an opinion of yourself not to care, so suit yourself. Have a wonderful day.Report Abuse
SebolaNtimetseAdikateMoketla
Maybe these cops have taken philosophy as a subjectquickly whilst wandering in the campus
so ask them the same question three times or maybe ten times
if they give you the same answer then that is what they mean
unless Sowetan must write this article again
i dont know why i even read it
it just makes me a bit angry
Report Abuse
brock
im in camp nw nw,its sad,very very sad....ppl are telling different stories,de src,eye witnesses,mafoko,ordinary students...jrrrrrrrrrrrr may be dey r still drunk since we coming from the weekend..........all de evidence dey are giving,it proves dat students were just bitter wth de rapes,murder and other criminal activities dat took place earlier,no one can prove dat those fellows who were attacked are indeed thugs,stop defending this unwanted behaviour guysReport Abuse
RobinH
Legaleagle. You clearly are less informed than I thought. I won't bother to deal with that. No further discussions then. Bye.Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
SAPS, I dont understand........... last week yuou said a laptop, cellphones were found in possession of the alleged thugs........... *eish confused*Report Abuse
RobinH
Kinky: Not jumping either way here. but just wanting to set some kind of perspective here. It is very possible that the cellphones and laptopn actually belonged to the guys that were mobbed. Just a thought. People dowalk around with cellphones. That is the whole point of a so-called "mobile".Report Abuse
somaartakeit
an innocent thug? so why is he then labelled a thug? anyway may his sould rest in peace (if he is not guity of any criminal or thuggish behaviour) and just must prevail.Report Abuse
Shirmy
Then We Arrest the Students!!! Finish & Klaar!Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@RobinHKinky: Not jumping either way here. but just wanting to set some kind of perspective here. It is very possible that the cellphones and laptopn actually belonged to the guys that were mobbed. Just a thought. People dowalk around with cellphones. That is the whole point of a so-called "mobile".
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I know what a "mobile" phone is. Dont patronise me.........
Last week it was reported that property found in possession of the alleged thugs was that stolen from the campus.............
Report Abuse
RobinH
Kinky. Sorry, I was not intending to patronise you. It was a witty aside. You should know me better by now. Sorry if I offended you. I merely suggested a possibility, as I think we can agree that reporting on this has been really poor, even by Sowetan standards.Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@RobinHNo sweat (*_*)
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RobinH
MsKinky: Thanks. Cool.Report Abuse
PalaceCoup
Our country has gone to the dogsReport Abuse
vhafarivhapiki
mob justice applaud.they were in the campus for wrong reasons since they are not studentReport Abuse
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