Fri May 24 06:54:42 SAST 2013

'They are good boys. Can it really be them?'

Apr 20, 2012 | GRAEME HOSKEN | 115 comments

GOD-FEARING, kind hearted, good, hard-working are the descriptions emerging from friends and relatives of the seven young men who have been accused of gang-raping a mentally disabled teenager in Soweto.

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Apr 20, 2012

maneater

Professor Rachel Jewkes, MRC gender and health research unit director, said recent studies conducted in KwaZulu- Natal, Eastern Cape and Gauteng showed that one in 10 men in South Africa have been involved in gang rapes.
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i do not know from where they get these studied but they are wrong!!!!!!!!
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Apr 20, 2012

MorenaWaPolelo

To her, he is just “a lovely boy”.
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No Gogo he is a monster and a rapist!!! Blooody Demon
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

You see, you see, one should be cearful these boys lives are at stake, i dont believe they did this, ANCWL should apologize to these boys,some people just want attention from all of this.
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Apr 20, 2012

keabualenna

wena truthhurt...hw do u subsantiate ur belief? coz if its on da gogos perception of da boyz den u are pathetic. if ma mada wer to be told half of da things i do, she would say exactly wat da gogo is sayin.
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Apr 20, 2012

Tsope'

@Truthhaurt

ANCWL = Community Cares, they saw the vidoe and they took action.
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Apr 20, 2012

Mosquer

Eish mathata.
But if they really saw them doing it on the video then no excuse. ANCWL should appologise for using insults.
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Apr 20, 2012

Afrojoy

This grandma is naive to think her boy is an angel...parents need to be vigilant when raising kids. And this South African habit of out sourcing your parenting responsibilities to gogos is a disgrace I think. It's a South African thing.
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Apr 20, 2012

Pointman

The mistake that most parents make is to assume that their kids are good. Parenting is an active and not passive job - especially with so much drugs, disease and violence around coupled with corrupt police and politicians.
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Apr 20, 2012

Pointman

@Afrojoy - spot on.
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

keabualenna
wena truthhurt...hw do u subsantiate ur belief? coz if its on da gogos perception of da boyz den u are pathetic. if ma mada wer to be told half of da things i do, she would say exactly wat da gogo is sayin.
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I AM JUST SAYING, IF THERE IS EVIDENCE LET IT BE USED IN COURT, LETS NOT FUME HATRED TOWARDS THESE BOYS, SOME BOYS MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND SOME NOT, WE DONT HAVE ALL THE FACTS.

WHO AMONGST US, HAS NO SIN?
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

keabualenna
wena truthhurt...hw do u subsantiate ur belief? coz if its on da gogos perception of da boyz den u are pathetic. if ma mada wer to be told half of da things i do, she would say exactly wat da gogo is sayin.
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I AM JUST SAYING, IF THERE IS EVIDENCE LET IT BE USED IN COURT, LETS NOT FUME H.A.T.R.E.D TOWARDS THESE BOYS, SOME BOYS MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND SOME NOT, WE DONT HAVE ALL THE FACTS.

WHO AMONGST US, HAS NO S.I.N?
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Apr 20, 2012

imthegreatest

every one think their kids are angels. even the well known killers in tembisa, alex, soweto and etc. their parents will always say ba jela ngwana waka mona.
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Apr 20, 2012

ncagumbuduma

A camera never lies.
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Apr 20, 2012

Papage

If the ANC Women's League member is talking instigating violence. What is the Mother body saying?
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Apr 20, 2012

Pabi

Gogo accept that peer pressure took its course, he did it and he must be jailed for his wrong doings. bana never o ba confirm
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Apr 20, 2012

MGEEZ

I have always said it and I saying it again, going to church does not make you a Christian; in the same way will sleeping in the garage not make you a car!!!! Many of the so called Christians are good preachers; but live like hell. They live a life that is so far removed from the gospel that they preach, because in their minds nobody sees them; well I have news for you in case you have never read that in your bibles come let I tell you "Whatsoever is done in the secrete shall be revealed in the open".
Not everybody who call themselves Christian is, just like calling yourself a car will not make you one. Thank God for Technology otherwise we would have to listen to the lies of these religious nuts who have a form of Godliness but denying the power thereof!!!! You are a disgrace
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Apr 20, 2012

ayobaness20

I just wonder what will happen if 1 of them can be found not giulty*******wondering*****
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Apr 20, 2012

ayobaness20

just wonder what will happen if 1 of the boys will be found not guilt
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Apr 20, 2012

MGEEZ

@truthhurt
I AM JUST SAYING, IF THERE IS EVIDENCE LET IT BE USED IN COURT, LETS NOT FUME HATRED TOWARDS THESE BOYS, SOME BOYS MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND SOME NOT, WE DONT HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
WHO AMONGST US, HAS NO SIN?
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I think that you are missing the point completeley. This is not about anyone else's sin but the boys. And seeing that you are not Jesus Christ of Nazareth you are not qualified to ask that question!!!
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Apr 20, 2012

Uncompromising

I guess no one bothered to show Gogo the video. She will most probably think they were acting. Like in Yizo-Yizo. Poor Gogo. Grandson gonna be Papa's bum-chum!
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

MGEEZ
@truthhurt
I AM JUST SAYING, IF THERE IS EVIDENCE LET IT BE USED IN COURT, LETS NOT FUME HATRED TOWARDS THESE BOYS, SOME BOYS MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND SOME NOT, WE DONT HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
WHO AMONGST US, HAS NO SIN?
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I think that you are missing the point completeley. This is not about anyone else's sin but the boys. And seeing that you are not Jesus Christ of Nazareth you are not qualified to ask that question!!!
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So you like the hype? well i know your type, and you are a disgrace to yourself.

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Apr 20, 2012

Eraser

@truthhurt

wena i thnk u mentally challenged..WHO AMONGST US, HAS NO S.I.N? wht do u mean by this we all not guilty until proven guilty...raping is not only a sin its unhuman..so please..if u also r a rapist ur time will come..

we all gud in de eyes of our parents and gogo's..
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Apr 20, 2012

Ann

@Mgeez, spot on!
every child is good in their parents eyes but they dont know wat happens when they are alone
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Apr 20, 2012

golezwa

this Albertina Sishuba lady must be out of her mind to be saying such an ubserd statement, ANC should call its members to order
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Apr 20, 2012

Uncompromising

MGEEZ
@truthhurt
I AM JUST SAYING, IF THERE IS EVIDENCE LET IT BE USED IN COURT, LETS NOT FUME HATRED TOWARDS THESE BOYS, SOME BOYS MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND SOME NOT, WE DONT HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
WHO AMONGST US, HAS NO SIN?
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I think that you are missing the point completeley. This is not about anyone else's sin but the boys. And seeing that you are not Jesus Christ of Nazareth you are not qualified to ask that question!!!

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Apr 20, 2012

MORNACHIESS

The problem with our parents is that they think they know us ,while we are more different
outside our homestead(s) ...when i grow up in the vi.ll.age my mothers used to be on my
case ,shield.ing me like no.body's busi.ness and down deep i knew that i'm did what i'm
accused of ...................so to the parents of the acc.used ,why don't u get the Video and
see how Nya.ope has changed your children ?
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Apr 20, 2012

Skhumbasengwenya

First paragraph:
Today she is 17,watsup Mr Editor,yesterday she was 16.
To gogo:
If yo boy is seen in the klip,definately he's not a saint as you claim,he's a small demon who deserves jail.
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Apr 20, 2012

MGEEZ

truthhurt
I think that you are missing the point completeley. This is not about anyone else's sin but the boys. And seeing that you are not Jesus Christ of Nazareth you are not qualified to ask that question!!!
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So you like the hype? well i know your type, and you are a disgrace to yourself.
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I am glad then that you know my type; but that still does not change the fact that there is a video with people who call themselves Christians raping a child. If we adopted your "who amongst us has no sin" then our justice system is not required at all.
Secondly; in terms of the laws of this circular world that we live in, anyone who was in that video whether they raped or not were as involved as those who raped, particularly when you consider that they were willing participants. They enjoyed what they saw and still did not report it to the police; so we are going to prosecute them to the full extent that the law allows us and i hope that we get it right so that we can make a good example of people like this in our society. You do not know me to talk about my type, but for that I forgive you, it a non issue it happens everyday.

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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

Eraser
@truthhurt

wena i thnk u mentally challenged..WHO AMONGST US, HAS NO S.I.N? wht do u mean by this we all not guilty until proven guilty...raping is not only a sin its unhuman..so please..if u also r a rapist ur time will come..

we all gud in de eyes of our parents and gogo's..
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Quoting from the bible is always a problem isn't it? was the bilbe bit the only thing you read? anyway, please dont get me wrong, i dont condone r.a.p.e, i am just saying we should cool our heads and not blow this issue out of proportion. most hypocrites who are sreaming in the streets about this are probably related to a r.a.p.i.s.t or even two.
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Apr 20, 2012

tumzangwana

“He is not bad. He can’t have done this. This is not my boy. It is some mistake. He can’t be this monster people say he is. I know that he is not evil,” she said.
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denial will only worsen the pain magriza, just accept that your grandson is a psycho rapist who doesnt deserve to live among society. just be glad the boy is not in Khayelitsha coz there he'd have been like a Nando's full chicken, grilled to come nice.

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Apr 20, 2012

DeeAnn

@Mosquer and Truthhurt I doubt these boys would have been in custody if they were not the one's in the video. the parents should be shown the video so that they can point out their kids. Castration would be the only suitable punishment for this horrible deed. They ruined a girls life. It seems like you guys are taking this very lightly
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Apr 20, 2012

sh!tFaceSamsung

To her, he is just “a lovely boy”.
but that lovely boy now is hiv positive as we speak: phela disabed gal has a virus
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Apr 20, 2012

THANDY

uncompromising
I guess no one bothered to show Gogo the video. She will most probably think they were acting. Like in Yizo-Yizo. Poor Gogo. Grandson gonna be Papa's bum-chum!
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thats so funny , gogo has a perfect picture of her grandson she will never believe anything even if they show her de video.
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Apr 20, 2012

WarrenG

These guys must pay! They must go to jail for many years and get repeatedly raped themselves, so they too can enjoy it. Rot boys rot.
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Apr 20, 2012

DeeAnn

@Truthhurt dude I'm trying to get your point but I'm failing to, what do you mean we should blow this out of propotion? the guys took a video of themselves raping the girl and apparently to those who've seen it, its as clear as daylight who the guys are? What more proof do you want? do you expect us to sit and say let justice be done? while we know it won't?
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Apr 20, 2012

zaco'z

hm! bad indeed
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Apr 20, 2012

zaco'z

MORNACHIESS
dumela...
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Apr 20, 2012

TKay

obviously these boys are lions in a sheep's skin - they should rot in jail
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

What the hell is it with the ANC and the need to incite violence?

We are all horrified at this but for a mother, in the league which represents the party leading our government, to stand up and say they will neck1ace them AND their families is just too mindblowing for words. It sounds like the bloody ANCWL has caught a bad dose of Malemanitus from the ANCYL. Bloody mapharas
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truthhurt

DeeAnn
@Truthhurt dude I'm trying to get your point but I'm failing to, what do you mean we should blow this out of propotion? the guys took a video of themselves raping the girl and apparently to those who've seen it, its as clear as daylight who the guys are? What more proof do you want? do you expect us to sit and say let justice be done? while we know it won't?
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Simple, people should not take advantage of this situation, let the law take its course.
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Apr 20, 2012

MGEEZ

Zacoz
Good morning young men; how are you today? Today i learn that a bunch of youngsters who call themselves by the name of the Lord Jesus Christ have videorised themselves raping a child!!!
Can you see the fruit in the tree?
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Apr 20, 2012

Mangoz

@SOWETAN

WHY R U REMOVING MY COMMENTS, HA?
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Apr 20, 2012

Sweetcandy1

Even I think my only brother is a wonderful guy but he did stab a man closer to death so whether these boys seem like good boys at home.... they did what they did and have to face da music.
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Apr 20, 2012

Lehido

Every boy is a lovely boy until he is caught.......Get over yourself old lady
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Apr 20, 2012

sabza007

They must be given test of their own medicine.

@Councillor Albertina Sishuba

I agree with you Mama, We must be aggressive to the point to fight crime. Committing a crime in South Africa is like a walk in a park

When this girl was raped for the first, when she was 12 years, the rapists was deported. Whats that??? Is that a punishment to the foreigners??? Pathetic laws of this country makes me sick.
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Apr 20, 2012

MGEEZ

@MommaC
Good morning to you; how are you doing this morning. Mara wena you are stirrer!!! when did Juju suggest that we should ne.c.k.l.a.c.e anybody?
On a serious note; i agree with you fully that the woman who made this is irresponsible. i think that the ruling party should charge her for bringing them into disrepute; what do you think?

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MommaC

MGEEZ

Morning Mgeez :)

A full disciplinary committee meeting is definitely in order. I'd suggest a simple 3 year suspension - unless this is not her first offence, in which case, she should have her membership revoked. Fair is fair (stir, stir, stir :))
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Apr 20, 2012

Billy-jean

No parents would like to beliv that their kids are monsters,if you blv it,that means you have failed as a parent and no one wants to be a failure,so it is understandable that gog sees this boy as a good little boy,but in actual fact he is a rapist,a monster,a ba fagolwe man.
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Apr 20, 2012

Wozanami

Truthhurt
They are not trying to advantage of the situation. They are trying to bring as much attention as possible to this because IT'S GETTING WORSE. 25% of men interviewed in SA have admitted to r.aping someone, they seem to think it's fun or it's their right.
Justice does NOT take it's course for r.ape in mzansi!! Police do not do a thorough job.
Your care-less attitude to this shows you don't consider this very important.

PEOPLE NEED TO START LEARNING THAT THERE IS A PRICE TO PAY FOR R.APE.
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Apr 20, 2012

sabza007

@Monarchies

Hhahaha....You g.r.e.w up in a villlage? Lol..Don't worry man, you will adjust to technological s.o.c.i.e.t.y.
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truthhurt

Wozanami
Truthhurt
They are not trying to advantage of the situation. They are trying to bring as much attention as possible to this because IT'S GETTING WORSE. 25% of men interviewed in SA have admitted to r.aping someone, they seem to think it's fun or it's their right.
Justice does NOT take it's course for r.ape in mzansi!! Police do not do a thorough job.
Your care-less attitude to this shows you don't consider this very important.

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I like how you think, why must the people rise up to the law, surely we have got the best constitution in the world dont we? the law should be able to take care of all of us equally and fairly.
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Apr 20, 2012

bulwazi

If it's them in the Video.....then it's THEM.....
A picture doesn't lie.......
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Apr 20, 2012

svavava

parents need to accept the fact that when we r infornt of them, we will b angels, bt out of their sight, we show our true colors. what these boys did is painful and unforgivable. dont parents talk to their kids about s%^x anymore. they should have known that what they were doing was wrong
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Apr 20, 2012

SKIZOBANTWANA

Lababantu benzani badlwengulizingane...Labantu benzani badlungul'odadwethu* singing* Phuz'uzukhemisi & Mmfazi oMnyama's song
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Apr 20, 2012

Wozanami

truthhurt
We DO have one of the best constitutions, but that has nothing to do with anything.
The constitution is not protecting these women.

We need a MENTAL shift. A man who r.apes must be considered to be a sick d.og by other men.
A man who r.apes must be kicked and s.pit on. He must not get "respect" or laughs from other men.

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Apr 20, 2012

spokowee

batho ba le bona ba ba mentall.y il.l ba rata banna maan, and o ka se ba botse selo. cos apparently this girl used to disappear and come back, that is why the mom did not bother opening a case of missing person. well to the boys they must just face the music for taking advantage of this girl.
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

spokowee

The mother DID open a missing persons case. It took her two weeks of fighting with the police before they would open a case but it has been proven that she DID open a case.
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truthhurt

Wozanami
truthhurt
We DO have one of the best constitutions, but that has nothing to do with anything.
The constitution is not protecting these women.

We need a MENTAL shift. A man who r.apes must be considered to be a sick d.og by other men.
A man who r.apes must be kicked and s.pit on. He must not get "respect" or laughs from other men.

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Are you implying that our laws are unjust?
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Apr 20, 2012

spokowee

@momma

heard some lady wa ANCWL on metro yesterday saying the mom never opened a case this time, but she normally did open the case the other time she was missing and she would just come back before the police even start looking for her.
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Apr 20, 2012

Wozanami

truthhurt

Soon i will be implying that you need a brain.

I am not implying anything. I didn't even mention anything about any laws.
I am SAYING that the law is not enforced. I am SAYING that r.apists in Mzansi are not being discouraged. i am SAYING that ORDINARY people need to make more noise condemning rapists.

We don't need people who say "Who amongst us has no sin?"
We don't need people who say "Don't blow this out of proportion"

By saying this, you are MOCKING the victims of r.ape, and trivialising the actions of the perpetrators, which is exactly why men carry on doing it. wake up!
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Apr 20, 2012

ke-tla-go-ja-gore

Magogo is probably right, this boys were good until they realised that they have a pi*pi. the boy woul say to gog, it just went out of control without my concern. I was just standing there and it force me to do the horrible thing.
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Apr 20, 2012

Blackstone.lebs

These boys are savages. As for gogo, this is a life changing event and i think she is still in a state of shock, hence her seemingly protective reaction. reality hasn't kicked in. Accepting that a "well mannered" loved one is in fact a menace to society takes time and it's not easy.
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Apr 20, 2012

Nhlanhlaz

horny little thugs, they deserve whats coming to them. And some parts of the media that reviled the identity of the girl deserve to be sued
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

spokowee

The case docket was dated the 25 March.
It was the stupid MEC for social services who tried to make out it was the mother's fault. Even the police admitted that, because she had disappeared before, they were the ones who didn't want to open the case.
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truthhurt

Wozanami
truthhurt

Soon i will be implying that you need a brain.

I am not implying anything. I didn't even mention anything about any laws.
I am SAYING that the law is not enforced. I am SAYING that r.apists in Mzansi are not being discouraged. i am SAYING that ORDINARY people need to make more noise condemning rapists.

We don't need people who say "Who amongst us has no sin?"
We don't need people who say "Don't blow this out of proportion"

By saying this, you are MOCKING the victims of r.ape, and trivialising the actions of the perpetrators, which is exactly why men carry on doing it. wake up!
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You Saying, You Saying, You Saying Nothing!

Do you know how many innocent people are sitting in jail, and how many criminals are rooming the streets? well do you? Dont be too Quick to lock that prison door.
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Apr 20, 2012

WEREWOLF

they identified on the VIDEO, so please show them the VIDEO to confirm that they boys are good or bad, as long as the faces on the VIDEO is clear then pass on the judgment.
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Apr 20, 2012

Mangoz

Parents r over protective about their children, i dont blame grandma's defencive act, i also dont blame the M0B for the necklaces, but it is wrong as you can take away an innocent live, i do support it towards those f@ckers that mugged me recently i hope they get caught i'll be the leader of the M0B, TSEK!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 20, 2012

cherichoc1

I wish every r.ape case was taken these seriously. ANCWL if there was no video I doubt they'll be up in arms like this. They should be there for every women who alleges that they have been r.aped including the women who ac cused Zuma of r. aping her.
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Apr 20, 2012

MGEEZ

sh!tFaceSamsung
To her, he is just “a lovely boy”.
but that lovely boy now is hiv positive as we speak: phela disabed gal has a virus
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That is not how an HIV test is performed; please inform your opinion!!! Clearly you have not tested for HIV before!!!
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Apr 20, 2012

legendarybenedictoholic

An erection does not get satisfied or scarried away by prayers, good boys, bad boys, pastors, atheists, all experience an erection.

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Apr 20, 2012

SAMONYOBINYOBI

Jeso a ba raya are "fa gona le mongoe oa lona ya iseng a etse sebe, a ebe ene oa mathomo go ngata ke lejoe" bohle ba soaba ba jikela morago.

so my friends, who are we to judge? we all do mistakes in life so let the little boys who by then may be never thought what they were doing was against the law speak for themselves, let us hear what inspired them to commit such a crime.

PEACE, PEACE and PEACE
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Apr 20, 2012

lindsay

well the gogo maybe it was you then who did it
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Apr 20, 2012

Nkemba

Eisha Man there is nothing safe in this world a human being has turned in to animals, no concious, no fear and just evil behaivior. Hhayi bo Khuzekani.

Life does not end there one day you will be a father and the same thing is going to happen to you. Aagah!
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Apr 20, 2012

DeeAnn

DeeAnn
@Truthhurt dude I'm trying to get your point but I'm failing to, what do you mean we should blow this out of propotion? the guys took a video of themselves raping the girl and apparently to those who've seen it, its as clear as daylight who the guys are? What more proof do you want? do you expect us to sit and say let justice be done? while we know it won't?
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What law babe? the same law that constantly fail us? the same law that gave an 18 year old 7 years for raping a 6 year old at the school toilets? If we don't create a hype around it, these boys might get 7 years allocated to them or worse WALK! Media influence and our voices are needed here for these scumbags to get what they deserve.
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

SAMONYOBINYOBI

So how many have you raped?
You obviously have because you think this is just fine and dandy. Is your sister safe from you or do you just r@pe mentally retarded children?
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DeeAnn

truthhurt
Wozanami
truthhurt

Soon i will be implying that you need a brain.

I am not implying anything. I didn't even mention anything about any laws.
I am SAYING that the law is not enforced. I am SAYING that r.apists in Mzansi are not being discouraged. i am SAYING that ORDINARY people need to make more noise condemning rapists.

We don't need people who say "Who amongst us has no sin?"
We don't need people who say "Don't blow this out of proportion"

By saying this, you are MOCKING the victims of r.ape, and trivialising the actions of the perpetrators, which is exactly why men carry on doing it. wake up!
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You Saying, You Saying, You Saying Nothing!

Do you know how many innocent people are sitting in jail, and how many criminals are rooming the streets? well do you? Dont be too Quick to lock that prison door.
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I've just concluded that you're a m.oron. The people who saw the video pointed these men out, what innocence are you talking about?
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Apr 20, 2012

DeeAnn

MommaC good question!
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Apr 20, 2012

Shredder

"and their homes torched. They vowed to hunt the young men and their families down should they be released."

That is barb.aric. why should you bu.rn the homes? Let them pay for their sins, not the families.
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Apr 20, 2012

SexyLulu

@To her, he is just “a lovely boy”.
but that lovely boy now is hiv positive as we speak: phela disabed gal has a virus
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are you sure that she has a virus....if yes how did u knw it?
plz answer me tuuuu...
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Apr 20, 2012

manyobaa

This boys r@ped no one, they had s.ex with s.efebe and they are being punished for it!
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

DeeAnn


I've just concluded that you're a m.oron. The people who saw the video pointed these men out, what innocence are you talking about?
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My Dearest

Let the court decide, in the meantime put on your underwear and get off the streets please!
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manyobaa

SexyLulu
@To her, he is just “a lovely boy”.
but that lovely boy now is hiv positive as we speak: phela disabed gal has a virus
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are you sure that she has a virus....if yes how did u knw it?
plz answer me tuuuu...
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This letekatsi must also be charge with atempted murder for giving this young boys a deadly virus
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

truthhurt

Do you do all your thinking from within the confines of your pants?
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

MommaC
truthhurt

Do you do all your thinking from within the confines of your pants?
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Oh no, i am not stooping to your level, not today, just go fry in a pan or something.
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Apr 20, 2012

DeeAnn

MommaC
truthhurt

Do you do all your thinking from within the confines of your pants?
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MommaC I think so too hey. He's as bad as these boys, bloody embicile. I wonder if the women around you are safe at all troll.
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Apr 20, 2012

nghunghunyane

Guys it doesnt help firing at each other, these kids should ask for forgiveness and confess to their sin to God and the slate is clean, however lets leave the law to take its course tlhe, us exchanging ideas isnt gonna change the situation, the boys maybe need help as well. this is what is wrong with SA, the sensationalism created by our media distorts our objectivity, chances are we have been presented with a situation where these boys need the same help as the helpless girl....and im not saying the act is justified....maybe they are abusing drugs, or have other psychological problems that our state resources can help rehabilitate them from, however the adult male who kept her for three weeks should go to heII and while there, he should get us Ice Cubes, mxm
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Apr 20, 2012

SexyLulu

@manyobaa
dream on that will nt happen bcz the young girl did nt r.a.p.e these guys is other way round...by the way where do get this virus storry thing? cz its seems u have more info...
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

DeeAnn

We have a very small portion of the population which comment here but some of these comments seem to make the estimates of 9% of the men being rapists sound like an under estimate. Some of these boys have some serious issues with moral boundries
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

truthhurt

Bauer doesn't make big enough pans.
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

nghunghunyane
Guys it doesnt help firing at each other, these kids should ask for forgiveness and confess to their sin to God and the slate is clean, however lets leave the law to take its course tlhe, us exchanging ideas isnt gonna change the situation, the boys maybe need help as well. this is what is wrong with SA, the sensationalism created by our media distorts our objectivity, chances are we have been presented with a situation where these boys need the same help as the helpless girl....and im not saying the act is justified....maybe they are abusing drugs, or have other psychological problems that our state resources can help rehabilitate them from, however the adult male who kept her for three weeks should go to heII and while there, he should get us Ice Cubes, mxm
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Apr 20, 2012

DeeAnn

@nghunghunyane I hear you but these boys if left unpunished they'll end up like that adult male who kept the gal as a sex slave. This man didn't just wake up and thought of being a man who'll keep gal against their will, he was this probably a long time and no one caught him. This society lacks morals, role models and respect of everything on earth. They need to be taught a lesson. @MommaC i hear you and its sooo sad that there's people condoning this.
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

MommaC
truthhurt

Bauer doesn't make big enough pans.
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Ahhh let me suggest, "Hell" you should be fine there!
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Apr 20, 2012

manyobaa

truthhurt
nghunghunyane
Guys it doesnt help firing at each other, these kids should ask for forgiveness and confess to their sin to God and the slate is clean, however lets leave the law to take its course tlhe, us exchanging ideas isnt gonna change the situation, the boys maybe need help as well. this is what is wrong with SA, the sensationalism created by our media distorts our objectivity, chances are we have been presented with a situation where these boys need the same help as the helpless girl....and im not saying the act is justified....maybe they are abusing drugs, or have other psychological problems that our state resources can help rehabilitate them from, however the adult male who kept her for three weeks should go to heII and while there, he should get us Ice Cubes, mxm
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But the adult who kept her was her boyfriend, and if you say he is way to old for her and must be jailed, then King of the Zulus should also go to jail for sleeping,impregnating and marrying a 16 year old swazi girl.
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

truthhurt

Can't. I'm not christian.
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Apr 20, 2012

swona

i know a lady who I would describe as mentally not ok or mature slow, I would not call he mad, I dont know this lady on this story but I would say she fits the description of the girl I know a bit, the lady would ask sEx from older men, hope this girl has never done this to this boys, them being ok, guess they would have never taken the offer serious if she indeed offered herself to them!
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Apr 20, 2012

SAMONYOBINYOBI

MommaC

Am not tolerating what these boys did please get me right, the fact is let us not pressure the court to make it's decision, if there is enough evidence that indeed they raped the poor girl then justice be practiced.

am not a rapist to answer your seseless question neh? these guys are minors so i said they may have done this without any knowledge that they were against the law, read all the articles about this victim and how many times she has been raped, she was finally found with a matured man who is old enough to have acted like her parent but instead slept with her and even said he is his girlfriend, SHAME!

I think her parents are also not responsible enough to take care of her especially that she is not mentally fit so they should also face the wrath of the law for negligence of their daughter!
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Apr 20, 2012

truthhurt

MommaC
truthhurt

Can't. I'm not christian.
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Oh my... even better, a heathen, well i have good news for you, the devil loves you! i am sure you are more than welcomed in hell.
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Apr 20, 2012

MGEEZ

SAMONYOBINYOBI
So what are you saying exactly here "am not a rapist to answer your seseless question neh? these guys are minors so i said they may have done this without any knowledge that they were against the law?
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Apr 20, 2012

SAMONYOBINYOBI

@Manyobaa

You said it all mate, the court will make it's rulling and hopefully yes the boys need help, they are still young and God has plans with their lives...

This world need our prayers
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

SAMONYOBINYOBI

What kind of monstrous brat doesn't know that raping a girl (any girl) is wrong? Do your children REALLY have to know that it is against the law before they realise that it is just WRONG?

Her mother has done nothing wrong in this. When she was raped last time, she did EVERYTHING to get justice for her daughter. The NPA threw the case out of court due to the fact that the girl is mentally retarded and they decided she would not be able to take the stand. They had DNA evidence and they had a witness who saw the group of men take her from the back of her house. Now where does that make the mother 'negligent" of anything?

This time, the same thing happened. The girl was taken from in front of he house and the mother went to report her missing at the police station. The police REFUSED to open a case and it was only three days later (after a lot of nagging by the mom and her going around knocking on doors) that they reluctantly opened a case - the 24th March. Said case they did NOTHING on.

It was only when the media got hold of the story that anything was done. The police eventually admitted that they didn't originally want to open a docket due to the fact that she had disappeared before and they admitted that they did nothing to find her because last time she disappeared, she turned up on her own again a few days later.

This mother and her child have been completely let down by social services, police services, the justice system and the community. Her only 'sin' is to be a mentally handicapped girl who (by definition in SA) is thus less value than a used piece of toilet paper.

It makes me more angry than you can ever believe. That is why your condoning of this just makes me see red
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Apr 20, 2012

SAMONYOBINYOBI

MommaC

You sound angry at how the police le mafapha a mang ba lahleletseng the mother oa motsoasehlabelo ona maar nna i said i dont tolerate how the the poor girl is being treated maar koa bokhutlong kere a re emeleng kgotla go tsaya tshoetso, the boys must also confess and ask for repent for all their wrongs!
that's my word and fa o kgopisega ke kopela tshoarelo ngoanaetsho
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

SAMONYOBINYOBI

Repent se gaaat. The cops should be charged and the boys should get a sentence which will be a DETERRENT to any who have the same 'urges'. We can't keep being 'ag shame' and expect this epidemic to stop. God didn't care when she was being raped and begging for them to stop, so I doubt he gives any more of a sh1t about her or those boys now.

Yes, I am VERY angry about this.
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Apr 20, 2012

busilicious

What is done is done and it cannot be undone, whether they were good boys once upon a time, well now those days are over, they raped a mentally disturbed girls and just to see that they were 100% sober and enjoying what they are doing, they even took a video of their sinful action as a remeberence of what they did, SA law should re-structure their laws ans sanctions agains minors coz it make me sick to see this minors killing and robbing and they get away with it coz they are minors....nee fok man..................to me they are guilty until proven innocent.
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Apr 20, 2012

MGEEZ

I say that the margistrate should postpone the case until 2018 when they are all ad.u.lts; and then from there make an example of them that would leave not only the men in this country dumbfounded but even the woment too. He must send them to ja.i.l and throw away the ke.y.s. then we will see which other men will "accidentally ra.p.e any women".It's appaling that there are people on this bl.o.g who are even trying to rec.o.n.cile us with this e.v.il co.n.c.upiscence!!!! Just goes to show how r.o.tten our mo.r.al fibre in this country is!!! They must thank God that i am not the state president; othrwise they would ha.n.g!!!!! Imorality should not be tolerated and be decorated by being called a mistake!!!
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Apr 20, 2012

Blackstone.lebs

SAMONYOBINYOBI;
manyobaa;
ke-tla-go-ja-gore;
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yerr di a boa hierso!
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Apr 20, 2012

mjimara

please lets not take the job of our state, they will do whats on their power to deal with this issue and

one thing im very sure of they will impose the punishment which will apease the community,but only if the state will proove them to be guily


to gogo im sorry your grand son will lear extra leson if they find them guilty
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

mjimara

Yea. Like the BRILLIANT job they did by making sure 6 year olds are safe when they sentenced the person who raped the to a long 7 years (effectively he will be out when she is 9 so maybe the next time he r@pes her it will be even more acceptable).

Our legal system needs its backside kicked and to stop treating offences against women like minor misdemeanour's.
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Apr 20, 2012

DeeAnn

mjimara
please lets not take the job of our state, they will do whats on their power to deal with this issue and

one thing im very sure of they will impose the punishment which will apease the community,but only if the state will proove them to be guily

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@MommaC what makes me more mad is that these male bloggers that are condoning this will never know how it feels to be r.aped even if their daughters, mothers, sister etc one day are r.aped, they themselves will never know the pain of being r.aped so I find their comments degrading and insensitive. Its people like them that promotes r.ape as they don't take it seriously, its as if a person has stolen a piece of bread. D.isgusting embiciles.
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Apr 20, 2012

nghunghunyane

@Truthhurt

LOL humbled

@DeeAnn

Thats why i say that the law needs to take its toll, obviously our jails are supposed to rehabilitate them, or book them into weskoppies and or sterkfontein or something, obviously what they did isnt excuseable tlhe.


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Apr 20, 2012

Poblar

This is indeed the acts of Sodoma and Gomora!!!!!
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Apr 20, 2012

rasefatee

children got rights ok they have the right to drink hunters dry on their way to school so what they also have right to rapee let the law take its own course this thing called rights rights rights is really destroying our children it is really killing their future i dont care let them go to jail
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Apr 20, 2012

MommaC

DeeAnn

Maybe that is the problem. They don't understand that it is not about the act but about the theft of self that is the crime. A prison sentence for the rapist comes to an end - the victim remains scarred for life
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Apr 20, 2012

lenong

@MommaC: dats d reason nna as lenong up here I say death is d key coz d victim will neva b healed no matter! Im sick of dese puppies> dogz!
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May 7, 2012

Boing

I can think of plenty of descriptions for these young hooligans, but "good boys" would not be among them.

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May 11, 2012

meromotu

@mageez ur on point
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