CRACKED walls, live electricity wires and smelly loos are some of the things left by a construction company that was supposed to renovate a primary school in Ekurhuleni.
Corruption , corruption and corruption, we are not suprised, every tenderpreneur always wants to cash up from the government Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
rasefatee
Arrest the management of the companies once you Motshwaedi you are also a suspect why not open the case with the police charging a company a daily penalty of R1500 for the delay is nothing compared to the R4.6m paid to them Report Abuse
Why do we continuously hear about astronomical amounts of money being paid out for incomplete work or work not even done?
Who is responsible and why are they not being held accountable?!
What happened to building inspectors and progress payments - you know the good old, bad old days when people were expected to actually deliver/do the work to a satisfactory level before getting paid
Theses contractors are laughing all the way to the bank after being paid R4.6-million out of the R6 million.
The company being suspended and penalties, not to mention the 10% retention are a joke. If they can't get the work done to start with how will they keep the company accountable?! Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
... there is also a 10% retention on all payments made being held back. The companies will also be suspended ..."
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DPW is rotten to the core. Who certified the project to be 76% complete? find him and haul him to the grill, fire his a$$ withold his pension. your retention is only R460K and suspending the company won't pull R4.6M out of the drain, set the asset forfeiture unit on these Maskhambalele and DSTV crooks. Confiscate their contrustion plant, houses, cars, computers, alles and delete them from you database, klaar. Or you're just going to "investigate this matter" as usual? Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
TKay
Why were the companies paid 4.6 million without any single job done... Report Abuse
Then its we always want to pin it on the ANC ,But it always boils down to them........................
@LBS-Morning -My point exactly maak naar man Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
MommaC
Morning all :)
Tjo. 4.6 mil paid for that? I am seriously in the wrong business. Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
Arewanga
This is the benefits of this government more epecially when the showerhead is leading. i'm sure he is only good in the blankets not as the leader. Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
LBS
@candilious
Then its we always want to pin it on the ANC ,But it always boils down to them........................
@LBS-Morning -My point exactly maak naar man
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Morning candi - The anc are in the 'driving' seat but clearly not in control otherwise we wouldn't hear daily about abuse of money and power.
Just imagine if all the money was used as intended - we'd have one of the most progressive countries in the world! Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
candilious
@MommaC- Morning my skat.........What troubles me when Zuma's house was renovated his response washe did not know. So you tell me what response are we to get from this.
First of all how do you pay for a job that has not even started in business is it not you draw up acontract to conclude the relevant details and maybe a upfront payment to secure the job to be done.. Here nothing has been and i doubt will happen soon. People will go to court re this and that.
This tender business should stop with immediate effect its killing our Economy tooo Report Abuse
I still don't understand why it is tendered out. We used to have maintenance and repair departments within the government to deal with stuff like this. If it was a specialised job which was outside their CV capabilities then a government building inspector visited the site daily to monitor the work and sat in on all the site meetings. Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
candilious
@LBS- True that our streets are deteriorating by the day,everything going up people are getting more aggressive towards each other.Its as if this was planned all these years looking at a Artchitects Plan as their are grinding SA step by step
My heart bleeds for my Country and My childrens Future Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
candilious
@MommaC-That is just the problem the GVMT Departments as we know automatically closed down people living in rural areas such as goverment properties dont even get the service when their call the local counsil workers out. So in effect what do we them to do to our schools.Places that been kept clean and service are being left for Renewal of street name, Court cases,Bailing out other Countries,Paying Debt not caused by Citzensbut citizens are to foot the bill
And as you mentioned those Inspectors exist only on paper sit in a shebeen 8hrs go home earn a salary R20K for doing absolutly nothing. And that goes for the rest of our civil servants if their still exist Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
MommaC
candilious
Then everyone gets all surprised when the kids get gatvol and start burning everything down.
If this was private property, the building would have been condemned and the owners would be facing a humongous lawsuit Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
This has got fokol to do with the ANC this has the making of an incompetant contructor who failed to do the Job he was appointed to do. Im glad he is being penalised and his retension is held by the client this means his guarantees aswell are held by the client and he will be blacklisted ofcourse.
With all this in the client's hands he will go back to that school and finish the Job. Report Abuse
@MommaC- Sowetan is blocking my comments asi am ranting but like i said Most are concerned about the refurnishing of their offices then what their are of all schools Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
candilious
somaartakeit
ANOTHER ANC FAILURE
********************************Morning Strange but true Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
Catswhiskers
And once again - no one is held accountable! Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
oldlady2
It's not only corrupt contractors that cause these problems. The main guilty party is the project engineer. This is how it works. DW appoints a firm of engineers as contract managers. It is this contracts manager who must sign off any claims from the contractor. Now, in the good old, bad old days, as someone here referred to it, an engineer will go study. After qualifiying, he'd work at least 5 years as a pupil engineer, then at least another 10 as a junior engineer, before being deemed experienced enough to manage a project. Today, they come out of varsity and expect a top position, if they're not given it, companies are blamed that they only give the top jobs to the older white male, so they're basically blackmailed into giving such jobs to junior people. Now, contractors spot such a junior very easily. Within the first 6 months or so, the claim 80% MOS (material on site) and at least another 60% of work completed. The contracts manager just signs it off, without doing proper inspections (inexperience), and voila, money gone. Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
legendarybenedictoholic
i think the construction companies must pay back all the money already got for the school project, so that it can be used to pay other companies which can take over and do the right thing.
How do you pay them if they have not yet started the project, mxm stupidgovernment procedures. wasting our tax money for another BEE dude. Report Abuse
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cornelius
Sjoe, they must be racists.Report Abuse
ngutha
*yawn* ...............
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............
another anc corruption story
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
*yawn*
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Princetall
Corruption , corruption and corruption, we are not suprised, every tenderpreneur always wants to cash up from the governmentReport Abuse
rasefatee
Arrest the management of the companies once you Motshwaedi you are also a suspect why not open the case with the police charging a company a daily penalty of R1500 for the delay is nothing compared to the R4.6m paid to themReport Abuse
MORNACHIESS
Blame Zooomer !Report Abuse
LBS
Why do we continuously hear about astronomical amounts of money being paid out for incomplete work or work not even done?Who is responsible and why are they not being held accountable?!
What happened to building inspectors and progress payments - you know the good old, bad old days when people were expected to actually deliver/do the work to a satisfactory level before getting paid
Theses contractors are laughing all the way to the bank after being paid R4.6-million out of the R6 million.
The company being suspended and penalties, not to mention the 10% retention are a joke. If they can't get the work done to start with how will they keep the company accountable?!
Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
... there is also a 10% retention on all payments made being held back. The companies will also be suspended ..."++++++++++++++++++++++
DPW is rotten to the core. Who certified the project to be 76% complete? find him and haul him to the grill, fire his a$$ withold his pension. your retention is only R460K and suspending the company won't pull R4.6M out of the drain, set the asset forfeiture unit on these Maskhambalele and DSTV crooks. Confiscate their contrustion plant, houses, cars, computers, alles and delete them from you database, klaar. Or you're just going to "investigate this matter" as usual?
Report Abuse
TKay
Why were the companies paid 4.6 million without any single job done...Report Abuse
Raven
Enaf already....boredReport Abuse
candilious
Then its we always want to pin it on the ANC ,But it always boils down to them........................@LBS-Morning -My point exactly maak naar man
Report Abuse
MommaC
Morning all :)Tjo. 4.6 mil paid for that? I am seriously in the wrong business.
Report Abuse
Arewanga
This is the benefits of this government more epecially when the showerhead is leading. i'm sure he is only good in the blankets not as the leader.Report Abuse
LBS
@candiliousThen its we always want to pin it on the ANC ,But it always boils down to them........................
@LBS-Morning -My point exactly maak naar man
----------------------------------
Morning candi - The anc are in the 'driving' seat but clearly not in control otherwise we wouldn't hear daily about abuse of money and power.
Just imagine if all the money was used as intended - we'd have one of the most progressive countries in the world!
Report Abuse
candilious
@MommaC- Morning my skat.........What troubles me when Zuma's house was renovated his response washe did not know. So you tell me what response are we to get from this.First of all how do you pay for a job that has not even started in business is it not you draw up acontract to conclude the relevant details and maybe a upfront payment to secure the job to be done.. Here nothing has been and i doubt will happen soon. People will go to court re this and that.
This tender business should stop with immediate effect its killing our Economy tooo
Report Abuse
somaartakeit
ANOTHER ANC FAILURE!!!Report Abuse
MommaC
candiliousI still don't understand why it is tendered out. We used to have maintenance and repair departments within the government to deal with stuff like this. If it was a specialised job which was outside their CV capabilities then a government building inspector visited the site daily to monitor the work and sat in on all the site meetings.
Report Abuse
candilious
@LBS- True that our streets are deteriorating by the day,everything going up people are getting more aggressive towards each other.Its as if this was planned all these years looking at a Artchitects Plan as their are grinding SA step by stepMy heart bleeds for my Country and My childrens Future
Report Abuse
candilious
@MommaC-That is just the problem the GVMT Departments as we know automatically closed down people living in rural areas such as goverment properties dont even get the service when their call the local counsil workers out. So in effect what do we them to do to our schools.Places that been kept clean and service are being left for Renewal of street name, Court cases,Bailing out other Countries,Paying Debt not caused by Citzensbut citizens are to foot the billAnd as you mentioned those Inspectors exist only on paper sit in a shebeen 8hrs go home earn a salary R20K for doing absolutly nothing. And that goes for the rest of our civil servants if their still exist
Report Abuse
MommaC
candiliousThen everyone gets all surprised when the kids get gatvol and start burning everything down.
If this was private property, the building would have been condemned and the owners would be facing a humongous lawsuit
Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
This has got fokol to do with the ANC this has the making of an incompetant contructor who failed to do the Job he was appointed to do. Im glad he is being penalised and his retension is held by the client this means his guarantees aswell are held by the client and he will be blacklisted ofcourse.With all this in the client's hands he will go back to that school and finish the Job.
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@MommaC-IndeedReport Abuse
candilious
@MommaC- Sowetan is blocking my comments asi am ranting but like i said Most are concerned about the refurnishing of their offices then what their are of all schoolsReport Abuse
candilious
somaartakeitANOTHER ANC FAILURE
********************************Morning Strange but true
Report Abuse
Catswhiskers
And once again - no one is held accountable!Report Abuse
oldlady2
It's not only corrupt contractors that cause these problems. The main guilty party is the project engineer. This is how it works. DW appoints a firm of engineers as contract managers. It is this contracts manager who must sign off any claims from the contractor. Now, in the good old, bad old days, as someone here referred to it, an engineer will go study. After qualifiying, he'd work at least 5 years as a pupil engineer, then at least another 10 as a junior engineer, before being deemed experienced enough to manage a project. Today, they come out of varsity and expect a top position, if they're not given it, companies are blamed that they only give the top jobs to the older white male, so they're basically blackmailed into giving such jobs to junior people. Now, contractors spot such a junior very easily. Within the first 6 months or so, the claim 80% MOS (material on site) and at least another 60% of work completed. The contracts manager just signs it off, without doing proper inspections (inexperience), and voila, money gone.Report Abuse
legendarybenedictoholic
i think the construction companies must pay back all the money already got for the school project, so that it can be used to pay other companies which can take over and do the right thing.Report Abuse
Juju-babe
How do you pay them if they have not yet started the project, mxm stupidgovernment procedures. wasting our tax money for another BEE dude.Report Abuse
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