How do you expect someone whose health is ailing to perform his duties? they should just call it quits and look after their deteriorating health status. And stop being driven arround. To do what? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Keafixa
why do we have old geezers as MPS.....wat contributions are they making Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
somaartakeit
looting continuing viva anc, starve the children of SA to death, as long as you vip (prats) can ride on expensive wheels just to show off, bloody fools!!!! Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Idohl
No wonder they are always asleep during the sessions. Old and sick. MSG there are millions of us who are not fortunate to earn +R12 000 besides our degrees, and it is not a laughing matter. As long as we don't do crime. We try to work for ourselves you see. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
LEEZO
JajasQueen
@H-BEE
Im quiting my job, i want to be chauffeur:)
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You earn less than R12 000.00?
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It’s a less stressful job for that kind of money Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
DJWinner
Taxpayer millions, my skinny black_ ess. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
GrRRRpha
hu bani ikehla. These old old people are blocking employment of the youth Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Eraser
JajasQueen
@H-BEE
Im quiting my job, i want to be chauffeur:)
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You earn less than R12 000.00?
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I would also like to knw? u earning less vele? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
DJWinner
If it was US or british people, this Sowetan and their DA friends would be praising it, showing us how comfortable their white counterparts drive...
Just another strategy to Lobby for DA Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
MommaC
DJWinner
??? if it was US or UK politicians we wouldn't be paying so we wouldn't care Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Nwanawamukalaha
I understand that within the government there's a Fleet Management company which deals with such state movements. Why source out such a service whereas the state can do the same at no cost? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Nwanawamukalaha
DJWinner
If it was US or british people, this Sowetan and their DA friends would be praising it, showing us how comfortable their white counterparts drive...
Just another strategy to Lobby for DA
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that's bu11 since every MP has a car allowance, why hire someone if you have such a benefit? Truth be told, corruption is at its rife within Zuma's reign. Report Abuse
??? if it was US or UK politicians we wouldn't be paying so we wouldn't care
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If you were paying for a white, you wouldn't care. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
DJWinner
@Nwanawamukalaha...Cannot be called corruption if the law allows it. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Nwanawamukalaha
@DJWinner.............Are you a beneficiary of the corrupt Zuma government? Phew, dude, you support every ill-act Zuma's cadres are involved in.
Please quote that law which allows the chauffering and at the same time, the individual car allowances for the MPLs. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Mtamarazo
I doubt that I will ever vote again.........no more. I am tired of these empty promises from the liars, here in SA poor people become poor every day and the riches become richer and richer stealing out money and we're paying more for everything whilst our salaries stay the same. Nxxaaaaa Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
DJWinner
Nwanawamukalaha
@DJWinner.............Are you a beneficiary of the corrupt Zuma government? Phew, dude, you support every ill-act Zuma's cadres are involved in.
Please quote that law which allows the chauffering and at the same time, the individual car allowances for the MPLs.
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No. I just don't like people who are hating_ for no reason.
If it is not allowed, then take them to the court for stealing.... Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
DJWinner
Mtamarazo
I doubt that I will ever vote again.........no more. I am tired of these empty promises from the liars, here in SA poor people become poor every day and the riches become richer and richer stealing out money and we're paying more for everything whilst our salaries stay the same. Nxxaaaaa
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Why don't you vote for a different party? ANC is not an alpha and omega.... Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@DJWinner
It's the DA again, they .h.a.t.e. to see SAns look as if they are too comfortable. They want to see us suffer, walk to meetings, drink tap water at functions - while that woman spends thousands stuffing her face full of botox.
The old members should just go on pension and allow fresh and able people take their jobs....I wanna be a driver too, R12 000 for seating in a car....nice Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
DJWinner
JajasQueen
@DJWinner
It's the DA again, they .h.a.t.e. to see SAns look as if they are too comfortable. They want to see us suffer, walk to meetings, drink tap water at functions - while that woman spends thousands stuffing her face full of botox.
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ha ha ha ha....the thing is, they are using these newspapers to try and colonise our minds. We are not kids, we can see very well what is happening here... Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
MommaC
DJWinner
Do you honestly believe that the colour of a person's skin would make squandering funds any more tolerable? That is just pathetic. You may find colour coding ethics to be okay but I certainly don't. It doesn't matter what colour, political affiliation or anything else they have, it is a ridiculous amount to be wasting when there is so much that needs attention in the province. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@DJWinner
It's the DA again, they .h.a.t.e. to see SAns look as if they are too comfortable. They want to see us suffer, walk to meetings, drink tap water at functions - while that woman spends thousands stuffing her face full of botox.
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ha ha ha ha....the thing is, they are using these newspapers to try and colonise our minds. We are not kids, we can see very well what is happening here...
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Yeah and they want to pay a driver who is on call for more than 15 hours less than R12000.00. Shameful. I wonder how much madame Zille pays her maid?
Sadly in SA it does. Colour is everything here. It's very infuriating to drive next to a black dude chauffer driven in a merc while you drive your .w.i.f.e.'.s ratty midge to save on fuel costs.
Do you honestly believe that the colour of a person's skin would make squandering funds any more tolerable? That is just pathetic. You may find colour coding ethics to be okay but I certainly don't. It doesn't matter what colour, political affiliation or anything else they have, it is a ridiculous amount to be wasting when there is so much that needs attention in the province.
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Deep down in your heart, you know that I'm telling the truth about you....I've been following your comments and I know you now. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
MissBhakajuju
the DA exaggarates everything the ANC does, and opposes for the matter of opposing, without giving any proper solutions, which is why it will be hard for them to ever succeed the ruling party. The DA and most opposition parties foundation is only based on attacking the ANC nothing else, these oppositions don't even know their policies, (only if they have) but are so quick to question anything by the ANC.
So if it is a black person eating tax money then it is okay with Jaja and DJ but if it is a white person then it isn't?
For goodness sakes, that is the kind of thinking that actively encourages waste, corruption and nepotism. Our country should come first, not a colour code Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
skhokho21
MommaC, in this country we all know colour is everything.
Nwanawamukalaha
I understand that within the government there's a Fleet Management company which deals with such state movements. Why source out such a service whereas the state can do the same at no cost?
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When another dept uses resources from another they still have to pay so there is a cost. In the article it is said the service is allowed so no corruption maybe you can say lets prioritise & save money but don`t call it corruption.
Keafixa
why do we have old geezers as MPS.....wat contributions are they making
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becoz you (young people) & me don`t get involve in community/party politics at grass roots level
This is not a white / black issue...the chauffers's must get paid, they too are working like all us.
The question is;should there be a more econimical system to get the MPLs around??
.... I dunno
If I were an MPL I would want to be driven around ( "so i can focus my mind around service delivery issues / my mandate") I guess the job comes with the perks. it is what it is... Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@MommaC
We have failed to prove that anyone is eating the taxpayers money and that's just a very twisted accusation from the DA to gain more votes. The DA lies to create a fire where there's smoke and puff they get voted into power. The DA has raised the hopes of all those SAns who have held the belief that this country will go to the .d.o.g.s. once ruled by a black person. Nothing wrong with this country, our economy, .w.h.i.t.e.s. are still here and .b.l.a.c.k.s. are doing better everyday, nothing wrong with this country, nothing.
So if the chauffeurs were for (as an example) your favourite tea-girl, would it still be okay?
I have no problem with a disabled person being driven around but the general attitude seems to be that it doesn't matter if they can drive or not but if they are ANC or not Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Catswhiskers
Some of these reasons include medical problems and old age, according to MPLs who did not want to be named.
Should they then still be employed? Come on, pull the other one. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@MommaC
So if the chauffeurs were for (as an example) your favourite tea-girl, would it still be okay?
I have no problem with a disabled person being driven around but the general attitude seems to be that it doesn't matter if they can drive or not but if they are ANC or not
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Wouldn't be surprised if JaJasQueen and DJWinner are one and the same! Read their postings - always along the same spin doctoring lines. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@Catswhiskers
Wouldn't be surprised if JaJasQueen and DJWinner are one and the same! Read their postings - always along the same spin doctoring lines.
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If they are too old and sickly to drive they are too old and sickly to do a good job. There is an age in between dotage and juvenile!
Public servants are forced to retire at 65 why are politicians different? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
DJWinner
MommaC
So if it is a black person eating tax money then it is okay with Jaja and DJ but if it is a white person then it isn't?
For goodness sakes, that is the kind of thinking that actively encourages waste, corruption and nepotism. Our country should come first, not a colour code
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No, it it not how we view things, it is how you view things. Don't make this to be about us now.
JajasQueen
@Catswhiskers
Wouldn't be surprised if JaJasQueen and DJWinner are one and the same! Read their postings - always along the same spin doctoring lines.
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Great minds think alike!!!!!!!!!
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Atleast, there is still 2 minds that Sowetan and its DA has failed to colonise.... Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@Catswhiskers
If they are too old and sickly to drive they are too old and sickly to do a good job. There is an age in between dotage and juvenile!
Public servants are forced to retire at 65 why are politicians different?
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Global trends my dear, Reagan went senile while in office, that russian dude was poisoned and nearly died while in office, people were shocked that the blairs were still doing it when .w.i.f.e. got knocked up, cause it's common knowlegde that politicians do not have sex only the filthy ones do. That's why sex is so taboo in politics cause everyone is ancient.
Yes it does seem to be the way you view things. If they are black and ANC it can never be wrong but if it happens in the UK or US then it would somehow be the white SA population's fault.
Guaranteed if it was Zille who was being carted around by a very expensive taxi driver, you'd be shouting the roof down Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
DJWinner
JajasQueen
@Catswhiskers
Wouldn't be surprised if JaJasQueen and DJWinner are one and the same! Read their postings - always along the same spin doctoring lines.
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Great minds think alike!!!!!!!!!
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Atleast, there is still 2 minds that Sowetan and its DA has failed to colonise....
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Milk them A.N.C for they r blind 2 c the light,its only black people that r always linked 2 thiz kinda things.how many w.h.i.t.e companies have u heard being involved in tender deals?Only white owned companies that give non-executive directorship 2 poor b.l.a.c.k.s benefit frm the govnment.The non-executive b.l.a.c.k director knows nothin about business,he is mainly in charge of lower class employees bt reports 2 the white man who controls everything.A.N.C is just makin w.h.i.t.e ppl more reach by using the so called BEE stuff. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
MommaC
JajasQueen
Is your entire thought process between your legs this morning? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@MommaC
Is your entire thought process between your legs this morning?
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You know me....never one to turn down a good opportunity.
@Sinudeity
The DA dudes know how to drive it seems :P
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No, they're a bunch of wussies taking orders from the icequeen, no questions asked. I mean the budget is there! But no one dares stand up to madam gozille! They have to pound the pavements, sit next to stinky guys in the taxi....
I suggest that no-one responds to JaJasQueen and DJ Winner - made from the same cloth, and has a response for anything! Don't care if it makes sense, don't care if it is dirty, just don't care, as long as they support their black brothers and sisters. Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@Sinudeity
JajasQueen - "They have to pound the pavements, sit next to stinky guys in the taxi."
Just like millions of other South Africans.
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I do not pound the pavements and neither do you? So which SAns are you refering to?
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The ones you sh!tted urself over yesterday and more Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@candilious
@Sinudeity
JajasQueen - "They have to pound the pavements, sit next to stinky guys in the taxi."
Just like millions of other South Africans.
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I do not pound the pavements and neither do you? So which SAns are you refering to?
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The ones you sh!tted urself over yesterday and more
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That is so below the belt....fine...I am back...deep breath...so all politicians should emulate that poor soul who was abused by that ruthless, heartless inhuman farmer. That's where the DA wants our politicians?
and the funny part of this is that richest countries in the world where poverty is very minimal to non existent politicians there travel in public transport or cycling to work and have abt 2 body guards one of them a driver as well, and the poorest countries in the world leaders live in opulance, why do they need to be driven in a limo? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
candilious
JajasQueen
@MommaC
Guaranteed if it was Zille who was being carted around by a very expensive taxi driver, you'd be shouting the roof down
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No we wouldn't....we'd be proud cause we'd know the brother was shagging her too!
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Do you have proof of this
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somaartakeit
and the funny part of this is that richest countries in the world where poverty is very minimal to non existent politicians there travel in public transport or cycling to work and have abt 2 body guards one of them a driver as well, and the poorest countries in the world leaders live in opulance, why do they need to be driven in a limo?
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Last time I checked our politicians were not using limos...where do you live?
@JajasQueen-Ja nee jy is hard gebak,always want to have the last say and be correct
@Somaar -I agreewith you b4 Obama bacame Pres he lived with the very same people that got him where he is today. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Sinudeity
JajasQueen - LOL, yet again, you direct the topic away. This time you directed it to farmers. Anyone who is not a f0ol sees your MO. You act duumb, and circumvent discussions to the most useless topics. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Sinudeity
somaartakeit - Reminds me of the African summit we had in Sandton a few years ago. Bill Gates was one of the guest speakers. All the African leaders arrived in their 6-car envoys, blue lights blazing and bodyguards. The richest man in the world (And quite abit important than most African leaders), arrived in a rental car he got at the airport.
Its how African leaders try and bloat their own self-importance, by driving around with bodyguards and carcades.
I can see how this makes JajaQueen all starry-eyed. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Xovizwe
I turn to love this lady-Jaja
Whooaaaahh!!!! Some people will learn one thing or two.
@Sinudeity
JajasQueen - LOL, yet again, you direct the topic away. This time you directed it to farmers. Anyone who is not a f0ol sees your MO. You act duumb, and circumvent discussions to the most useless topics
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This was my last question to you before you fizzled out like you always do - chicken:-
If politicians have to walk like the rest of SAns.....who are these SAns who are walking? You are not walking, I am not....
JajasQueen - "who are these SAns who are walking? You are not walking, I am not...."
You and I dont constitute 50 million South Africans. If you dont know who is walking, and taking taxi's and trains to work, then you are very ignorant. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@Sinudeity
JajasQueen - "who are these SAns who are walking? You are not walking, I am not...."
You and I dont constitute 50 million South Africans. If you dont know who is walking, and taking taxi's and trains to work, then you are very ignorant.
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50 million people do not walk, so who are these people that zille wants to walk?
JajasQueen - I didnt say 50 million people walked. I said that you and I dont constitute 50 million South Africans.
14 million people use taxi's every day. Those people walk to their rank, and then walk to their destination from their dropoff point. Up to 2 million people commute by trains daily. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
MommaC
LOL
Are you two still going in squircles about who is walking and who is deaf? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Sinudeity
MommaC - I know right... its like talking to a brick wall with b00bs. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Sinudeity
Anyways, merely another indication of how out of touch the ANC politicians are with the rest of South Africa. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
Sinudeity
MommaC - I know right... its like talking to a brick wall with b00bs.
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Last time I checked our politicians were not using limos...where do you live?
jaja I know you have a memory span of a gold fish, now let me jog your memory the topic is not abt me its about 'tax payers paying for gov officials limos' do you read? and if you want to know about me personally why don't you send me your email with questions so that I can give you all this information that seems to be of interest to you abt me, cause as you can imagine I have no wish to publish person info on a public forum. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
candilious
Xovizwe
I turn to love this lady-Jaja
Whooaaaahh!!!! Some people will learn one thing or two.
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Ja fliee like om stront wees soort soek vi soort/
@Jaja-No thank you all i do is trying to voice my opinion and let it be viewed not be critized and called names for every little thing u say makes no sense. This forum is not about right or wrong but more of a learning curve from all races I so wish thta all walks of races could use Sowetan like all the other Bloggs to hav reasonable discussions not been given sling shots every time. And then expect to be Applauded for that. No thanx im happpy to be kippie Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@Sinudeity
Anyways, merely another indication of how out of touch the ANC politicians are with the rest of South Africa.
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No one could be as out of touch as you and madam evil down there in cpt. Can you imagine how horrible the ordinary lives of SAns would be if she were in power - I mean politicians would be accused of all sorts of stuff which are never proved or provable, parliament would have a taxi rank, and all the black people would be fronting for DA votes....
JajasQueen - You are sucking on the b@lls of ANC politicians, and trying to convince everyone else how lovely it tastes. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@somaartakeit
Personally I am flattered?? I dont do the female to female correspondence thing. Don't get me wrong the shower show Mommac and I were going to put on was to be for the pleasure of DJWinner. He appreciates the sight of two horny african women. I would have to decline on the personal email thing.
@Jaja-I hav 2 adorable kids i spare my time to play with ..........go catch a bone and keep urself busy hav no time for ur silly questioning game.
You realy think you something damn woman............ Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@Sinudeity
JajasQueen - You are sucking on the b@lls of ANC politicians, and trying to convince everyone else how lovely it tastes.
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Would you rather I were sucking yours? ....sies....even the thought makes me want to throw up! AWB .b.a.l.l.s. sies.
JajasQueen - No thanks, I wouldnt even touch you with Jacobs baws :P Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@candilious
@Jaja-I hav 2 adorable kids i spare my time to play with ..........go catch a bone and keep urself busy hav no time for ur silly questioning game.
You realy think you something damn woman............
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I am something...something you have never seen with your own two eyes - a strong black woman who tells you if you are full of baloney. The DA has hijacked this site to put down our government and the ANC. I will not stand by and let you lie to our people because you think that things will go wrong.
"Don't get me wrong the shower show Mommac and I were going to put on was to be for the pleasure of DJWinner. He appreciates the sight of two horny african women" so you are a cock teaser as well? pity you had to drag MC's name into perverted world. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Sinudeity
JajasQueen - No, this site has been hijacked by ANC prost1tutes who refuse to see the incompetence and corruption in the ANC. Even ANC members are speaking out about the incompetence and corruption in the ANC. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
candilious
@Jaja you a waste of air..........
@Sin / Somaar -Hav a fantabulous avi im out Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Sinudeity
Former Arts and Culture minister Pallo Jordan has said there is a perception that the ANC condones corruption, Jordan said the ANC and its alliance partners had to clean up their act. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@candilious
@Jaja you a waste of air..........
Last time I checked you never put anything even remotely tangible on this blog. You moan about lessons not taught...you don't have the stuff upstairs to do it.
And Chris Hani's daugther is also throwing in her two cents about the incompetent and corrupt ANC. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
@Sinudeity
And Chris Hani's daugther is also throwing in her two cents about the incompetent and corrupt ANC
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Yeah her two cents...not even R5 and I am sure she also thinks that we would have been capitalist if her father ran the country....and I thought she is the only one who's thick!
@Sinudeity
JajasQueen - No, this site has been hijacked by ANC prost1tutes who refuse to see the incompetence and corruption in the ANC. Even ANC members are speaking out about the incompetence and corruption in the ANC.
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When DA runs out of facts, they resort to insults. You are such a troll, pathetic.
JajasQueen - The ANC isnt socialist like you would have us believe. I never run out of facts, you just dont bother reading them. When you run out of facts, you ask for facts and go around in circular discussions.
Sinudeity
JajasQueen - The ANC isnt socialist like you would have us believe. I never run out of facts, you just dont bother reading them. When you run out of facts, you ask for facts and go around in circular discussions.
Go back to under your bridge.
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ANC socialist????????????? Obviously you know nothing about politics!
@jaja how in the world is it possible for anyone to run out of facts considering that the anc is providing us with those (corruption) daily, even umantuli is it the one shagging the bodyguard is implicated in NGo funds theft, jeer these ppl are criminally prone. Report Abuse
somaartakeit - Not to mention the Hawks busting an ANC politicians husband for millions of rands worth of corruption in Ekurhuleni this week. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Sinudeity
On Wednesday, the Asset Forfeiture Unit confiscated the assets of owner of Meropa Sechabeng Technology, Nilesh Singh, former executive director of the ICT department, and Andrew Mphushomadi, the former chief IT architect.
Mphushomadi and Singh had both worked for the city.
"The scourge of corruption is now a major crisis in government and many now believe that everything government does has corruption in it," said Gungubele. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Sinudeity
somaartakeit - Now watch Jaja asking for facts and telling us were trolls :P Report Abuse
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H-BEE
Im quiting my job, i want to be chauffeur:)Report Abuse
MommaC
How many MPLs do we have in each province and what the hell do they do?Report Abuse
Casey
Yaaah neh!! same old stories about the abuse of tax payers money.Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@H-BEEIm quiting my job, i want to be chauffeur:)
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You earn less than R12 000.00?
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MSG_S
How do you expect someone whose health is ailing to perform his duties? they should just call it quits and look after their deteriorating health status. And stop being driven arround. To do what?Report Abuse
Keafixa
why do we have old geezers as MPS.....wat contributions are they makingReport Abuse
somaartakeit
looting continuing viva anc, starve the children of SA to death, as long as you vip (prats) can ride on expensive wheels just to show off, bloody fools!!!!Report Abuse
Idohl
No wonder they are always asleep during the sessions. Old and sick. MSG there are millions of us who are not fortunate to earn +R12 000 besides our degrees, and it is not a laughing matter. As long as we don't do crime. We try to work for ourselves you see.Report Abuse
LEEZO
JajasQueen@H-BEE
Im quiting my job, i want to be chauffeur:)
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You earn less than R12 000.00?
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It’s a less stressful job for that kind of money
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DJWinner
Taxpayer millions, my skinny black_ ess.Report Abuse
GrRRRpha
hu bani ikehla. These old old people are blocking employment of the youthReport Abuse
Eraser
JajasQueen@H-BEE
Im quiting my job, i want to be chauffeur:)
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You earn less than R12 000.00?
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I would also like to knw? u earning less vele?
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DJWinner
If it was US or british people, this Sowetan and their DA friends would be praising it, showing us how comfortable their white counterparts drive...Just another strategy to Lobby for DA
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MommaC
DJWinner??? if it was US or UK politicians we wouldn't be paying so we wouldn't care
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Nwanawamukalaha
I understand that within the government there's a Fleet Management company which deals with such state movements. Why source out such a service whereas the state can do the same at no cost?Report Abuse
Nwanawamukalaha
DJWinnerIf it was US or british people, this Sowetan and their DA friends would be praising it, showing us how comfortable their white counterparts drive...
Just another strategy to Lobby for DA
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that's bu11 since every MP has a car allowance, why hire someone if you have such a benefit? Truth be told, corruption is at its rife within Zuma's reign.
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Secretary
CHAUFFEUR!!!!!!CHAUFFEURCHAUFFEUR!!!!!!CHAUFFEURCHAUFFEUR!!!!!!CHAUFFEUR...............Blar..Blar...Blar..Blar....Blar..Blar...Blar..BlarReport Abuse
DJWinner
MommaCDJWinner
??? if it was US or UK politicians we wouldn't be paying so we wouldn't care
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If you were paying for a white, you wouldn't care.
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DJWinner
@Nwanawamukalaha...Cannot be called corruption if the law allows it.Report Abuse
Nwanawamukalaha
@DJWinner.............Are you a beneficiary of the corrupt Zuma government? Phew, dude, you support every ill-act Zuma's cadres are involved in.Please quote that law which allows the chauffering and at the same time, the individual car allowances for the MPLs.
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Mtamarazo
I doubt that I will ever vote again.........no more. I am tired of these empty promises from the liars, here in SA poor people become poor every day and the riches become richer and richer stealing out money and we're paying more for everything whilst our salaries stay the same. NxxaaaaaReport Abuse
DJWinner
Nwanawamukalaha@DJWinner.............Are you a beneficiary of the corrupt Zuma government? Phew, dude, you support every ill-act Zuma's cadres are involved in.
Please quote that law which allows the chauffering and at the same time, the individual car allowances for the MPLs.
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No. I just don't like people who are hating_ for no reason.
If it is not allowed, then take them to the court for stealing....
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DJWinner
MtamarazoI doubt that I will ever vote again.........no more. I am tired of these empty promises from the liars, here in SA poor people become poor every day and the riches become richer and richer stealing out money and we're paying more for everything whilst our salaries stay the same. Nxxaaaaa
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Why don't you vote for a different party? ANC is not an alpha and omega....
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JajasQueen
@DJWinnerIt's the DA again, they .h.a.t.e. to see SAns look as if they are too comfortable. They want to see us suffer, walk to meetings, drink tap water at functions - while that woman spends thousands stuffing her face full of botox.
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TKay
The old members should just go on pension and allow fresh and able people take their jobs....I wanna be a driver too, R12 000 for seating in a car....niceReport Abuse
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JajasQueen@DJWinner
It's the DA again, they .h.a.t.e. to see SAns look as if they are too comfortable. They want to see us suffer, walk to meetings, drink tap water at functions - while that woman spends thousands stuffing her face full of botox.
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ha ha ha ha....the thing is, they are using these newspapers to try and colonise our minds. We are not kids, we can see very well what is happening here...
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MommaC
DJWinnerDo you honestly believe that the colour of a person's skin would make squandering funds any more tolerable? That is just pathetic. You may find colour coding ethics to be okay but I certainly don't. It doesn't matter what colour, political affiliation or anything else they have, it is a ridiculous amount to be wasting when there is so much that needs attention in the province.
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@DJWinnerIt's the DA again, they .h.a.t.e. to see SAns look as if they are too comfortable. They want to see us suffer, walk to meetings, drink tap water at functions - while that woman spends thousands stuffing her face full of botox.
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ha ha ha ha....the thing is, they are using these newspapers to try and colonise our minds. We are not kids, we can see very well what is happening here...
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Yeah and they want to pay a driver who is on call for more than 15 hours less than R12000.00. Shameful. I wonder how much madame Zille pays her maid?
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JajasQueen
@MommaCSadly in SA it does. Colour is everything here. It's very infuriating to drive next to a black dude chauffer driven in a merc while you drive your .w.i.f.e.'.s ratty midge to save on fuel costs.
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MommaCDJWinner
Do you honestly believe that the colour of a person's skin would make squandering funds any more tolerable? That is just pathetic. You may find colour coding ethics to be okay but I certainly don't. It doesn't matter what colour, political affiliation or anything else they have, it is a ridiculous amount to be wasting when there is so much that needs attention in the province.
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Deep down in your heart, you know that I'm telling the truth about you....I've been following your comments and I know you now.
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the DA exaggarates everything the ANC does, and opposes for the matter of opposing, without giving any proper solutions, which is why it will be hard for them to ever succeed the ruling party. The DA and most opposition parties foundation is only based on attacking the ANC nothing else, these oppositions don't even know their policies, (only if they have) but are so quick to question anything by the ANC.Report Abuse
MommaC
So if it is a black person eating tax money then it is okay with Jaja and DJ but if it is a white person then it isn't?For goodness sakes, that is the kind of thinking that actively encourages waste, corruption and nepotism. Our country should come first, not a colour code
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MommaC, in this country we all know colour is everything.Nwanawamukalaha
I understand that within the government there's a Fleet Management company which deals with such state movements. Why source out such a service whereas the state can do the same at no cost?
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When another dept uses resources from another they still have to pay so there is a cost. In the article it is said the service is allowed so no corruption maybe you can say lets prioritise & save money but don`t call it corruption.
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why do we have old geezers as MPS.....wat contributions are they making
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becoz you (young people) & me don`t get involve in community/party politics at grass roots level
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This is not a white / black issue...the chauffers's must get paid, they too are working like all us.The question is;should there be a more econimical system to get the MPLs around??
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If I were an MPL I would want to be driven around ( "so i can focus my mind around service delivery issues / my mandate") I guess the job comes with the perks. it is what it is...
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JajasQueen
@MommaCWe have failed to prove that anyone is eating the taxpayers money and that's just a very twisted accusation from the DA to gain more votes. The DA lies to create a fire where there's smoke and puff they get voted into power. The DA has raised the hopes of all those SAns who have held the belief that this country will go to the .d.o.g.s. once ruled by a black person. Nothing wrong with this country, our economy, .w.h.i.t.e.s. are still here and .b.l.a.c.k.s. are doing better everyday, nothing wrong with this country, nothing.
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@MissBhakajujuMissBhakajuju in da house!!!!!!!!!
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MommaC
JajasQueenSo if the chauffeurs were for (as an example) your favourite tea-girl, would it still be okay?
I have no problem with a disabled person being driven around but the general attitude seems to be that it doesn't matter if they can drive or not but if they are ANC or not
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Catswhiskers
Some of these reasons include medical problems and old age, according to MPLs who did not want to be named.Should they then still be employed? Come on, pull the other one.
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JajasQueen
@MommaCSo if the chauffeurs were for (as an example) your favourite tea-girl, would it still be okay?
I have no problem with a disabled person being driven around but the general attitude seems to be that it doesn't matter if they can drive or not but if they are ANC or not
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@CatswhiskersSome of these reasons include medical problems and old age, according to MPLs who did not want to be named.
Should they then still be employed? Come on, pull the other one.
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Show me one country where the politicians are youngsters?
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MissBhakajuju
JajasQueen@MissBhakajuju
MissBhakajuju in da house!!!!!!!!!
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hey JajasQueen....... *waving*
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Catswhiskers
Wouldn't be surprised if JaJasQueen and DJWinner are one and the same! Read their postings - always along the same spin doctoring lines.Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@CatswhiskersWouldn't be surprised if JaJasQueen and DJWinner are one and the same! Read their postings - always along the same spin doctoring lines.
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Great minds think alike!!!!!!!!!
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@JaJasQueenIf they are too old and sickly to drive they are too old and sickly to do a good job. There is an age in between dotage and juvenile!
Public servants are forced to retire at 65 why are politicians different?
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MommaCSo if it is a black person eating tax money then it is okay with Jaja and DJ but if it is a white person then it isn't?
For goodness sakes, that is the kind of thinking that actively encourages waste, corruption and nepotism. Our country should come first, not a colour code
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No, it it not how we view things, it is how you view things. Don't make this to be about us now.
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JajasQueen@Catswhiskers
Wouldn't be surprised if JaJasQueen and DJWinner are one and the same! Read their postings - always along the same spin doctoring lines.
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Great minds think alike!!!!!!!!!
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Atleast, there is still 2 minds that Sowetan and its DA has failed to colonise....
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@CatswhiskersIf they are too old and sickly to drive they are too old and sickly to do a good job. There is an age in between dotage and juvenile!
Public servants are forced to retire at 65 why are politicians different?
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Global trends my dear, Reagan went senile while in office, that russian dude was poisoned and nearly died while in office, people were shocked that the blairs were still doing it when .w.i.f.e. got knocked up, cause it's common knowlegde that politicians do not have sex only the filthy ones do. That's why sex is so taboo in politics cause everyone is ancient.
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DJWinnerYes it does seem to be the way you view things. If they are black and ANC it can never be wrong but if it happens in the UK or US then it would somehow be the white SA population's fault.
Guaranteed if it was Zille who was being carted around by a very expensive taxi driver, you'd be shouting the roof down
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@Catswhiskers
Wouldn't be surprised if JaJasQueen and DJWinner are one and the same! Read their postings - always along the same spin doctoring lines.
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Great minds think alike!!!!!!!!!
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Atleast, there is still 2 minds that Sowetan and its DA has failed to colonise....
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Yeapppp!!!!
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@MommaCGuaranteed if it was Zille who was being carted around by a very expensive taxi driver, you'd be shouting the roof down
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No we wouldn't....we'd be proud cause we'd know the brother was shagging her too!
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Milk them A.N.C for they r blind 2 c the light,its only black people that r always linked 2 thiz kinda things.how many w.h.i.t.e companies have u heard being involved in tender deals?Only white owned companies that give non-executive directorship 2 poor b.l.a.c.k.s benefit frm the govnment.The non-executive b.l.a.c.k director knows nothin about business,he is mainly in charge of lower class employees bt reports 2 the white man who controls everything.A.N.C is just makin w.h.i.t.e ppl more reach by using the so called BEE stuff.Report Abuse
MommaC
JajasQueenIs your entire thought process between your legs this morning?
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@MommaCIs your entire thought process between your legs this morning?
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You know me....never one to turn down a good opportunity.
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MommaC
JajasQueenWell I hope you either get some Duracel or make sure it is a lucrative opportunity.
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JajasQueen
@MommaCVusi Pikoli is married, so that leaves me to the Duracel....what a waste!
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Sinudeity
"Most of the chauffeured MPLs are ANC members while five are from the IFP. No DA MPLs use chauffeurs."The DA dudes know how to drive it seems :P
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@DJWinnerhe he he he....horny birds...I like it when women talk about these things...
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I love to see a brother happy. You deserve it after all the krap you get from this thread. We'll do the shower scene later...wink!
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@SinudeityThe DA dudes know how to drive it seems :P
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No, they're a bunch of wussies taking orders from the icequeen, no questions asked. I mean the budget is there! But no one dares stand up to madam gozille! They have to pound the pavements, sit next to stinky guys in the taxi....
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JajasQueen - "They have to pound the pavements, sit next to stinky guys in the taxi."Just like millions of other South Africans.
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@SinudeityJajasQueen - "They have to pound the pavements, sit next to stinky guys in the taxi."
Just like millions of other South Africans.
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I do not pound the pavements and neither do you? So which SAns are you refering to?
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JajasQueen - "I do not pound the pavements and neither do you?"I used to take the trains to city and walk to and from the station.
"So which SAns are you refering to?"
Millions of South Africans lady. Or did you think the population of South Africa consisted of just you and the MP's?
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@SinudeityWhich SAns are you refering to??
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Catswhiskers
I suggest that no-one responds to JaJasQueen and DJ Winner - made from the same cloth, and has a response for anything! Don't care if it makes sense, don't care if it is dirty, just don't care, as long as they support their black brothers and sisters.Report Abuse
MommaC
JajaShower scene?
At Bates Motel?
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Sinudeity
JajasQueen - The millions of South Africans that pound the pavements and sit next to stinky guys in the taxi's.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
MommaC - "Shower scene? At Bates Motel?"Hehehe.
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MommaC - Also think Jaja is psycho :PReport Abuse
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MommaCJaja
Shower scene?
At Bates Motel?
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Confirmed, I will be expecting you.
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Which SAns are you refering to??
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Sinudeity
JajasQueen - The millions of South Africans that pound the pavements and sit next to st1nky guys in the taxi's.Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@SinudeityWhich SAns are those because no one on this thread pounds the pavement?
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Sinudeity
JajasQueen - So they dont exist because they dont comment on this thread?Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@SinudeityYou say they exist, so who are they?
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JajasQueen - "You say they exist, so who are they?"You are either very ignorant or just playing stupid.
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@SinudeityJajasQueen - "You say they exist, so who are they?"
You are either very ignorant or just playing stupid.
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If politicians have to walk like the rest of SAns.....who are these SAns who are walking? You are not walking, I am not....
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JajasQueen@MommaC
Guaranteed if it was Zille who was being carted around by a very expensive taxi driver, you'd be shouting the roof down
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No we wouldn't....we'd be proud cause we'd know the brother was shagging her too!
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JajasQueen@Sinudeity
JajasQueen - "They have to pound the pavements, sit next to stinky guys in the taxi."
Just like millions of other South Africans.
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I do not pound the pavements and neither do you? So which SAns are you refering to?
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The ones you sh!tted urself over yesterday and more
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@candilious@Sinudeity
JajasQueen - "They have to pound the pavements, sit next to stinky guys in the taxi."
Just like millions of other South Africans.
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I do not pound the pavements and neither do you? So which SAns are you refering to?
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The ones you sh!tted urself over yesterday and more
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That is so below the belt....fine...I am back...deep breath...so all politicians should emulate that poor soul who was abused by that ruthless, heartless inhuman farmer. That's where the DA wants our politicians?
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somaartakeit
and the funny part of this is that richest countries in the world where poverty is very minimal to non existent politicians there travel in public transport or cycling to work and have abt 2 body guards one of them a driver as well, and the poorest countries in the world leaders live in opulance, why do they need to be driven in a limo?Report Abuse
JajasQueen
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@MommaC
Guaranteed if it was Zille who was being carted around by a very expensive taxi driver, you'd be shouting the roof down
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Black man giving you a ride?....he's riding you!
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somaartakeitand the funny part of this is that richest countries in the world where poverty is very minimal to non existent politicians there travel in public transport or cycling to work and have abt 2 body guards one of them a driver as well, and the poorest countries in the world leaders live in opulance, why do they need to be driven in a limo?
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Last time I checked our politicians were not using limos...where do you live?
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@JajasQueen-Ja nee jy is hard gebak,always want to have the last say and be correct@Somaar -I agreewith you b4 Obama bacame Pres he lived with the very same people that got him where he is today.
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Sinudeity
JajasQueen - LOL, yet again, you direct the topic away. This time you directed it to farmers. Anyone who is not a f0ol sees your MO. You act duumb, and circumvent discussions to the most useless topics.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
somaartakeit - Reminds me of the African summit we had in Sandton a few years ago. Bill Gates was one of the guest speakers. All the African leaders arrived in their 6-car envoys, blue lights blazing and bodyguards. The richest man in the world (And quite abit important than most African leaders), arrived in a rental car he got at the airport.Its how African leaders try and bloat their own self-importance, by driving around with bodyguards and carcades.
I can see how this makes JajaQueen all starry-eyed.
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Xovizwe
I turn to love this lady-JajaWhooaaaahh!!!! Some people will learn one thing or two.
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Xovizwe - And some people will never learn anything.Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@XovizweYou know I love you too???
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@SinudeityJajasQueen - LOL, yet again, you direct the topic away. This time you directed it to farmers. Anyone who is not a f0ol sees your MO. You act duumb, and circumvent discussions to the most useless topics
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This was my last question to you before you fizzled out like you always do - chicken:-
If politicians have to walk like the rest of SAns.....who are these SAns who are walking? You are not walking, I am not....
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candilious@JajasQueen-Ja nee jy is hard gebak,always want to have the last say and be correct
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You could have the last say my candi - I sleep at ten.
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Sinudeity
JajasQueen - "who are these SAns who are walking? You are not walking, I am not...."You and I dont constitute 50 million South Africans. If you dont know who is walking, and taking taxi's and trains to work, then you are very ignorant.
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@SinudeityJajasQueen - "who are these SAns who are walking? You are not walking, I am not...."
You and I dont constitute 50 million South Africans. If you dont know who is walking, and taking taxi's and trains to work, then you are very ignorant.
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50 million people do not walk, so who are these people that zille wants to walk?
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JajasQueen - I didnt say 50 million people walked. I said that you and I dont constitute 50 million South Africans.14 million people use taxi's every day. Those people walk to their rank, and then walk to their destination from their dropoff point. Up to 2 million people commute by trains daily.
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MommaC
LOLAre you two still going in squircles about who is walking and who is deaf?
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MommaC - I know right... its like talking to a brick wall with b00bs.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Anyways, merely another indication of how out of touch the ANC politicians are with the rest of South Africa.Report Abuse
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SinudeityMommaC - I know right... its like talking to a brick wall with b00bs.
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MommaCLOL
Are you two still going in squircles about who is walking and who is deaf?
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Would you happen to have any more bones to spare?? I think Sin needs one!!!
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@JajasQueensomaartakeit
Last time I checked our politicians were not using limos...where do you live?
jaja I know you have a memory span of a gold fish, now let me jog your memory the topic is not abt me its about 'tax payers paying for gov officials limos' do you read? and if you want to know about me personally why don't you send me your email with questions so that I can give you all this information that seems to be of interest to you abt me, cause as you can imagine I have no wish to publish person info on a public forum.
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XovizweI turn to love this lady-Jaja
Whooaaaahh!!!! Some people will learn one thing or two.
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@Jaja-No thank you all i do is trying to voice my opinion and let it be viewed not be critized and called names for every little thing u say makes no sense. This forum is not about right or wrong but more of a learning curve from all races I so wish thta all walks of races could use Sowetan like all the other Bloggs to hav reasonable discussions not been given sling shots every time. And then expect to be Applauded for that. No thanx im happpy to be kippie
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@SinudeityAnyways, merely another indication of how out of touch the ANC politicians are with the rest of South Africa.
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No one could be as out of touch as you and madam evil down there in cpt. Can you imagine how horrible the ordinary lives of SAns would be if she were in power - I mean politicians would be accused of all sorts of stuff which are never proved or provable, parliament would have a taxi rank, and all the black people would be fronting for DA votes....
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Sinudeity
JajasQueen - Blah blah blah.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
JajasQueen - You are sucking on the b@lls of ANC politicians, and trying to convince everyone else how lovely it tastes.Report Abuse
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@somaartakeitPersonally I am flattered?? I dont do the female to female correspondence thing. Don't get me wrong the shower show Mommac and I were going to put on was to be for the pleasure of DJWinner. He appreciates the sight of two horny african women. I would have to decline on the personal email thing.
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@candiliousSend me one blog where you have educated someone on this blog?? AND Send one blog where anyone has ever educated anyone on this blog??
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candilious
@Jaja-I hav 2 adorable kids i spare my time to play with ..........go catch a bone and keep urself busy hav no time for ur silly questioning game.You realy think you something damn woman............
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@SinudeityJajasQueen - You are sucking on the b@lls of ANC politicians, and trying to convince everyone else how lovely it tastes.
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JajasQueen - No thanks, I wouldnt even touch you with Jacobs baws :PReport Abuse
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@candilious@Jaja-I hav 2 adorable kids i spare my time to play with ..........go catch a bone and keep urself busy hav no time for ur silly questioning game.
You realy think you something damn woman............
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I am something...something you have never seen with your own two eyes - a strong black woman who tells you if you are full of baloney. The DA has hijacked this site to put down our government and the ANC. I will not stand by and let you lie to our people because you think that things will go wrong.
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@JajasQueen@somaartakeit
"Don't get me wrong the shower show Mommac and I were going to put on was to be for the pleasure of DJWinner. He appreciates the sight of two horny african women" so you are a cock teaser as well? pity you had to drag MC's name into perverted world.
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JajasQueen - No, this site has been hijacked by ANC prost1tutes who refuse to see the incompetence and corruption in the ANC. Even ANC members are speaking out about the incompetence and corruption in the ANC.Report Abuse
candilious
@Jaja you a waste of air..........@Sin / Somaar -Hav a fantabulous avi im out
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Former Arts and Culture minister Pallo Jordan has said there is a perception that the ANC condones corruption, Jordan said the ANC and its alliance partners had to clean up their act.Report Abuse
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@candilious@Jaja you a waste of air..........
Last time I checked you never put anything even remotely tangible on this blog. You moan about lessons not taught...you don't have the stuff upstairs to do it.
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And Chris Hani's daugther is also throwing in her two cents about the incompetent and corrupt ANC.Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@SinudeityAnd Chris Hani's daugther is also throwing in her two cents about the incompetent and corrupt ANC
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Yeah her two cents...not even R5 and I am sure she also thinks that we would have been capitalist if her father ran the country....and I thought she is the only one who's thick!
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travel safe home Candi:-)Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@SinudeityJajasQueen - No, this site has been hijacked by ANC prost1tutes who refuse to see the incompetence and corruption in the ANC. Even ANC members are speaking out about the incompetence and corruption in the ANC.
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When DA runs out of facts, they resort to insults. You are such a troll, pathetic.
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JajasQueen - The ANC isnt socialist like you would have us believe. I never run out of facts, you just dont bother reading them. When you run out of facts, you ask for facts and go around in circular discussions.Go back to under your bridge.
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SinudeityJajasQueen - The ANC isnt socialist like you would have us believe. I never run out of facts, you just dont bother reading them. When you run out of facts, you ask for facts and go around in circular discussions.
Go back to under your bridge.
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ANC socialist????????????? Obviously you know nothing about politics!
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@SinudeityIf it walks like a troll....then it is a troll. Sin the troll!
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@jaja how in the world is it possible for anyone to run out of facts considering that the anc is providing us with those (corruption) daily, even umantuli is it the one shagging the bodyguard is implicated in NGo funds theft, jeer these ppl are criminally prone.Report Abuse
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JajasQueen - "ANC socialist?"Exactly.
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somaartakeit - Not to mention the Hawks busting an ANC politicians husband for millions of rands worth of corruption in Ekurhuleni this week.Report Abuse
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On Wednesday, the Asset Forfeiture Unit confiscated the assets of owner of Meropa Sechabeng Technology, Nilesh Singh, former executive director of the ICT department, and Andrew Mphushomadi, the former chief IT architect.Mphushomadi and Singh had both worked for the city.
"The scourge of corruption is now a major crisis in government and many now believe that everything government does has corruption in it," said Gungubele.
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somaartakeit - Now watch Jaja asking for facts and telling us were trolls :PReport Abuse
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SinudeityJajasQueen - "ANC socialist?"
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Haahaahaa!!!!!!!!! ANC is pure capitalist!!!!!!!!!!!
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JajasQueen - "ANC is pure capitalist!"Yep.
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JajasQueen - And corrupt and incompetent.Report Abuse
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