THE eldest daughter of slain South African Communist Party leader Chris Hani has launched a scathing attack on the ANC, saying the party has been hijacked by unscrupulous and corrupt thugs.
Like I've said before, the ANC and Zuma and Malema in particular would have us believe that the solution to the ANC's leadership crisis lies in electing either Zuma or some puppet of Malema as president of the ANC, when in fact they should be looking in a whole new direction for a whole new leader. But alas, the cupboard is bare! Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Printa
I couldn't agree with you mere my sister. Starting with Sanral. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
MommaC
ANC provincial secretary Oscar Mabuyane said the ANC would not defend itself from Hani’s assertions.
Cleopatra Hani gwede and manyi are going to hit back calling you a wh0re and all sorts of unmentionable names. just watch your back. this is not the time to speak the truth about the disgusting rot within the so called ANC.mbeki must be laughing his a$$ off as we speak. "I told you so" is what comes to mind. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
candilious
Halalalalalall andthis is merely the beginning the people shal govern.
Fok Malema en hom moere.........people are g@tvol Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Dikmol
ANC provincial secretary Oscar Mabuyane sir, it is impossible or very very difficult to defend yourself against the truth. Just try and you will see. I will repeat part of her words, had Hani been alive today, things would be very,very different in this country. THUGS!!! Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
tsayaya
Cleopatra, you just sprinkled the vampire with holy water, now watch when it gets mad! Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
tumzangwana
ANC provincial secretary Oscar Mabuyane said the ANC would not defend itself from Hani’s assertions.
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whatever oscar, ANC wont defend itself because you knows she is telling the truth.
Wel said,dats y i say people need 2 elect a president directly nt this thing of being given n idiot as a president.Zuma was put by Malema thru his stunts.A.N.C is now about money n power not serving the people. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
nghunghunyane
@tsayaya
Cleopatra, you just sprinkled the vampire with holy water, now watch when it gets mad!
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I cant stop laughing, i can see Gwede le dichubaba.....frantically jumping up and down...
@tsayaya- Lol u just made my day ...............bkawkakakakakwkakakakka
I would like to know what Gwede is going to tell you as their always insult,and avoid answering directly. Hands Down for you Cleo Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
well Os-kar there's nothing to defend, 'patra said it like it is. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
The ANC has been stolen from the people by thugs, and the real people of the ANC are those on the streets with nothing. There are .. puppets in the ANC whom I have no ear to listen to.
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Cleopatra you have said a mouthful.......... class dismissed Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
skhokho21
Skomoro99, but then that means changing the constitution of the country. Do we want that now, last time I checked, you are given that option by voting for the party of your choice which makes it clear who is their presidential candidate.
Hey wena Cleo, are you a member of the ANC or SACP? Do n`t come here & talk as if you knew Hani, how was he different from JZ, he was making babies left right & centre out of wedlock. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
SKIZOBANTWANA
Absolutely true.. we support the ANC, but we don't like the current leadership attitude and behaviour, eTolling corrupt officials and Malema.
Hilililililililili, Buwaaaaaaaa!! Now the lady has said what we have been saying. Ba vumbuka out of nowhere and occupying seats and stealing our tax money and demanding other money by force telling us that we have to deal with it.
@Shredder-E-toll...R500.petrol R700 a tank...food R3000..coffin R5000...grave R800..funeral food R6000......what is cheaper dying or living? Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
candilious
@SKIZOBANTWANA-E-toll...R500.petrol R700 a tank...food R3000..coffin R5000...grave R800..funeral food R6000......what is cheaper dying or living?
@Shredder -Sorry i wanted to say my point exactly Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
ProphetofGod
Comrade Chris must be turning in his grave because this is not the anc that he lived and died for, you're so right Cleo. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
sechaba30
What a Good Comment, they are stealing left and right, look at Sanral. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
zacoz
ProphetofGod
Comrade Chris must be turning in his grave because this is not the anc that he lived and died for, you're so right Cleo.
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fake prophet...........nxaaaa....disappointed Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
RobinH
HEY MODERATOR! WHAT HAPPENED TO MY COMMENT IN WHICH I PRAISE THIS LADY?NOTHING NASTY AT ALL? NO NASTY WORDS LIKE W I F E OR ANYTHING! Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
RobinH
I had commented that I fully agree with NewFreedomFighter, as well. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Shredder
@RobinH
HEY MODERATOR! WHAT HAPPENED TO MY COMMENT IN WHICH I PRAISE THIS LADY?NOTHING NASTY AT ALL? NO NASTY WORDS LIKE W I F E OR ANYTHING!
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Send it again, we want to read it Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
tsayaya
it (the vampire) will jump and run and climb trees and run in ceilings and curse and roll in ash and change colour of eyes and grow teeth and threaten to bite and all these sorts of things that Manyi and Dogbreath (Mantashe) are doing
@zacoz - fake prophet...........nxaaaa....disappointed
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I am going to report this to the moderator as being abusive. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Makhosini0408
I wonder Ms Hani, who might be running with the loot?
By the way, I am still waiting for the real truth, of who k.illed our beloved HANI.
Judas Iscariot might shed some light perhaps?
Please, please, Luthuli House, who k.illed Han and whyi? Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
MAARKENG-JANONG
What a brave young woman, telling it like it is!!!!!
Youn are so damn right mama. Whether Mantashe or Manyi will insult you or not doesn't change your objective analysis of the current leasership (or should I say LADDERSHIP?) of the ANC.
Sho baba,that wil stop all thiz power hungry guys frm fighting for leadership.U c,the electing of a.n.c president can be influenced within the organisation,the delegates have beef wit one anotha n that create all this animosity.So yes if it means changing the constitution. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Tasto
Who to blame here parents or lack of them(father figure) to call elders THUGS ? I wonder what strategy is Luthuli House devising to react to this and keep their integrity intact at same time,because this is mouthful from an anc child nogal to say the forbiden truth about the untouchbles !!
But we knew that it was stolen at Polokwane nowhere else !! Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
100%Boer
Hey wena Cleopatra, who are you?
Hani will never come back, stop telling us about 'nyew nyew if my father was here nyew nyew...'
Was Hani an ANC member or SACP?
Was he a saint?
He died, so WHAT? we have a country to run don't tell us about dead people...we also have dead people in our familes.
I can see that you wanna bash Malema...watch your mouth daughter..you don't wanna lose your teetch with a kick.
In fact why are you a Hani? Aren't you married? You look too old...get off your big arse & work! Report Abuse
May Chris Hani's soul rest in peace, a true revolutionary indeed. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Ngwijikhwebu
I agree largely with her views, especially with regard to the quality of leaders currently at the helm of the ANC. They are indeed lar'gely very cor'rupt. But I have got reservations regarding the following statement at'tributed to her father "If my father were still alive, things would have been different, very different,”. How sure is she? Who can pre'dict that? This is Africa my sister, anything is po'ssible. Chris Hani was human like all the ANC leaders and he could have become one of the most cor'rupt ANC politicians. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Wozanami
I have to laugh at people saying "they" stole polokwane. "they" are the greedy thugs who took polokwane. bah... majority of these people who are complaining now were the ones who supported the pirates of polokwane and now things haven't turned into roses, these people seem to forget who they voted for. Report Abuse
OASIS
May Chris Hani's soul rest in peace, a true revolutionary indeed.
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I hear that bro. May he rest in peace. Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Tasto
They should have made this girl i-premier of E,C there & then without delay and update LuthuliHouse later of latest development!! Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Nwanawamukalaha
Cleopatra my Cleopatra - well said. Zuma and his bloo*dy greedy crew should step down and the real people with b1ack, green and yellow bloo*d run the Liberation Movement. Report Abuse
Zuma never even bothered to honour the fallen hero in Ekurhuleni y/day but he had time to attend to the provincial election of his bloo*dy ally David Mabuza in Mpumalanga.
I wonder what DJ Winner is gonna say now, just wondering................ Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Mtho'eng'nanqondo
Anticipated response from Luthuli Revolutionary H#lllhole...
" We note b#le assciated with the late revolutionary comrade Hani's daughter Ceopatra with shock and a g#sted fabber. While it is generally known that people follow their names, we never expected Cleopatra to follow the footsteps of the Egyptian Jez#bel who at the hight of her wh#rish tendencies sold out the people of Egypt and reversed the gains of his father. Cleopatra should be reminded that she is a bu#stard in the Hani family and was born out of wedlock. In fact the ANC and the Revolutionary Council does not have records of her as Crd Chris's daughter. It is impossible that the Commander in Chief could be tasked with revolutionary operations like Winkie, Qouto Cannivalle and Vulindlela and still find time to b#y and impr#gnate a pr#stitute. As far as we concerned Cleopatra is nothing more or less than a counter-rev#lutionary, en#my ag#nt, re#ctionary bust#rd!"
like MANDLA she is using her father's name to board the gravy train,when whoever she's campaining for wins in mangaung she will be paid with some position in some municipality or parliament.
just watch! Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
Publc2
“The ANC has been stolen from the people by thugs, and the real people of the ANC are those on the streets with nothing. There are .. puppets in the ANC whom I have no ear to listen to.
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True that,but be careful you will be suspended,ask Malema.If you are not within the ANC,you will be visited by the Hawks until you are flat.Thats ANC for you! Report Abuse
Apr 11, 2012
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
I just hope Comrade Gwede is going to keep his mouth shut this time. Don't say anything, Gwede! Because the comrade and sister is telling the truth. The ANC has been stolen by thugs! I hope we shall start naming the thugs in the run-up to Mangaung. Oh, I forget that gwede Mantashe says can only start naming the thugs in October and probably why Julius Malema has been silenced for calling Jacob Zuma a dictator. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Idi007
I see comments are not in the spirit of "freedom of speech". In the land of the blind one eye is king ... hahaha ... see you guys in the future utopia of the african renaissance. Report Abuse
Chris Hani was not an ANC member but the member SACP. If your father was alive right now he would have been a Minister of Higher Education at best. Chris Hani was not even half the leader Zuma is right now and was during the struggle. Your father was only a leader of the SACP for just six months, what does he know about being a leader. Honey do not believe the hype, we praise him because we feel sorry for him and his family and the fact that he was shoot dead inside his family yard.
You went to Schools were you could learn to read, write and speak English now you think your are smart. Freedom was not realised because of the Joe Slovo party (SACP) but was because of the ANC party of the people and still is. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Tsope'
@Cleopatra
SACP - Communist Party
ANC - Party of the People
Ask around which policies business prefer. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Pointman
That is what most of us feel - she should run for office. But be careful - she might be a Malema fan - in which case we are better off with the thugs. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
RobinH
Shredder. I'm old. Short term memory issues, lol. Things is, the comment actually was initially accepted, so I ditched my cntrl+C copy and carried on elsewhere for a while. Some nutter must have objected to the fact that I indicated admiration for the lady. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Pointman
@RobinH - I think the moderator was educated at a witch doctor college. My first comment this morning was also rejected - no vulgarity at all. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
JajasQueen
How does it work? A politician gives birth to a politician? Obviously this dim wit knows nothing about politics. Her father was SACP not ANC - so what would have made Mr Hani interested in the ANC? Or in the fact that we are a capitalist country? Mr Hani's issue would not have been the ANC but the fact that in a country with so much poverty we have the audesity to maintain capitalism. She likened her father to Mr Biko? Jeepwas! the girl is daft!!!!!!!!
Say it like you see it sister, you are a leader of note, you took all your fathers brains, go get them Tiger. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
lindsay
“The ANC has been stolen from the people by thugs,
where are those thugs in loot huli house lets say ANC was hijacked by polokwane thugs Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
RobinH
Tsope: With respect, Mr Hani held joint membership. He was a member of both the ANC and the SACP.
100%Pr!CK: What a pointless outburst. What are you on about, or do you generally just spew random kak at whatever pleases that small mind? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Tsope'
@RobinH
Members of the SACP do not have two membership cards. If you hang-around with the ANC doesnot mean you belong to the ANC. Get your facts straight. Report Abuse
ANC provincial secretary Oscar Mabuyane said the ANC would not defend itself from Hani’s assertions..... of course you won't cause you would be making a complete idiot of yourself
the ANC (Youth leaugue included) needs a complete Leadership makeover
JajasQueen
@1TOUCH
If your father was alive we would be Zimbabwe now
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And at war!
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She right about the ANC, but I agree Chris would have taken us to war, Military Leaders are Dictators Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
lindsay
@Tsope
so cosatu and sacp are not an alliance of the anc they are just groupies is that what you are saying? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
SeshegoGuY
What is this i read People saying Hani was not an ANC member, Ignorant people want to distort our history??
He was both an ANC & SACP member, a Commander in the MK. Do u fools even know our History?? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Tsope'
@Lindsay
You are 100% correct. Alliance = ANC plus groupies. By the way the groupies have grown since 1994, so now The Alliance = ANC plus Two groupies and others Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
karama
Malema and Zuma are disturbing the leadership of the party with their in-fighting. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Gaduka
You asking trouble your way my sister...tomorrow Manyi and Matashe will be calling you names, Leave politics to Politicians...your father was a real great Revolutionalist and Politician, not you Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
CAKE
“If my father were still alive, he would not be happy with this state of affairs,” said Hani
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U r just upset because u'r father is dead and can't get any tenders....if he was here...he would also join this culprits. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
RobinH
Tsope: With respect, during the struggle people were permitted to hold membership of two organisations and I think that some of the current leadership still do that6, though of that I am not sure. There is absolutely no doubt that Hani held dual membership. Check your history, Sir. He was an MK commander FFS. READ! THINK! LEARN! Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Tsope'
@SeshegoGuY
MK membership included other parties like SACP, APLA, PAC, UDF & etc. Again If you hang-around with ANC that does not meant you are an ANC member. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Secretary
Thanks to w.ear Kaizer chiefs jers.ey. It means that Chris Hani was rising like you do.
Tsope. Fukkit. Okay. Suit yourself. But do go and read up on history. You may find it enlightening. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
lindsay
@Tsope see the definition of both words they are so different and also have different meanings so they can't be both its either they are allience of the ANC or they are just groupies which i find it very odd as they were questioning cosatu about involvement of Malema in the e-toll march if they are groupies then they are not accountable to the anc.
An alliance is an agreement or friendship between two or more parties, made in order to advance common goals ...
and a groupie is someone who just hangs out with a person particularly a celebrity and is not even a friend to that person but just hangs out . Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
karama
No one stole A.N.C people elect leaders in S.A . The people choose educated fools. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Tsope'
@RobinH
That is why you read in the papers that "Some ANC member was 0r member were not allowed or booed-off platform during the SACP get-together of the SACP"
ANC is not SACP and vise versa
ALLIANCE = ANC PLUS TWO GROUPIES AND OTHERS Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
RobinH
Tsope. Nobody is saying that the ANC = SACP, you silly man. I am saying, and you can go and check this for yourself as I am not going to waste more thinking on you, that there was a period in which many held membership of both parties. How is this so hard to grasp? Enough of this sh!~t now, Don't bother to respond. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Tsope'
@Lindsay
Alliance has nothing to do with one party "joining" the other party in agreement or friendship or marrage with. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
RobinH
Someone please help this poor lost soul. I give up. No cure for determined blindness. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Tsope'
ANC not = The Tri-Aparthied Alliance
But The Tri-Aparthied Alliance = ANC plus Two groupies Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Papage
She is wearing Zebra colours, is she Chiefs? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Tsope'
Ask Gatsha Buthelezi, he will tell you that hanging-around with ANC while exile does not mean you are an ANC member. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
What!!!
Tsope you name sounds like 80's kwaito songs ari-tsope, tsope, tsope
you are really emotional about your homeboy Zoooommer ari-tsope, tsope, tsope, tsope!!! Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
RobinH
Tsope. We're not talking about Gatsha, are we?" We're talking about Hani. Do your effing homework, and stop repeating the same irrelevant chirp. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
KeRataBasadi
She could have just expressed her views as a citizen with a better platform instead of adding her father in the mix of the scuffle, Hani was no saint, he was SACP and not ANC, I personally do not believe Hani died in the same vain Biko did, I would not compare the two any day. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Mhlaliomhle
@Tsope'
I suspect you were born in 1995, if so you won't know certain things about the ANC & SACP. The then NP sent delegation to Lusaka in 1987 to meet with ANC in a view to negotiate end of the armed struggle due to the international pressure exerted to the then SA government. Among the ANC 6 NEC members that met with the SA goverment delegation, OR Tambo & Chris Hani were there, Tambo unequivocally stated that the then NEC six members constitute of SACP members however they are ANC first and SACP after. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
What!!!
emotions can distort rational thinking, are these people who keep on saying Hani was SACP not ANC aware that Hani was a member of ANC-NEC, I wonder non ANC member were allowed to be ANC-NEC members???
so these are who are saying Hani was not ANC are psychological cases with desperate need for help Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Vanz154
You have hit the nail on the head..I dont blame the provincial secretary for not commenting..because there is nothing to despute..this is a gross example of PALACE POLITICS!!! Finish en klaar! uyand`thola? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
mamadimo
Chris Hani is dead finish and klaar, this thing ya gore he would have made a difference is bull kak, I don't even want to insinuate that things would have been better had he been here. The truth is there is a problem in the ANC of solving private wars using the party. That’s what needs to be dealt with. Hani's body ha decomposed long time ago. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
RobinH
Mhlaliomhle: Thanks for that affirmation of what I was saying. There are few things more annoying than arrogant ignorance, and I had had enough of the silly child's warbling.
Cake..that`s a very insensitive and immature thing to say..... Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
ILLUMINATED
Where is Gwede Mantashe? We need him to respond to this woman just as he has been suffering from verbal diarrhoea of late. So he is nowhere to be found. What a coward! Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
KeRataBasadi
@ RobinH
Had Hani been alive, he would not have been your hero, you would have caught the next available flight to perth, this little @ss kissing exercise you have going and your need to discredit the ANC waya waya is manipulative. What do you know about the man ? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
MSG_S
'The ANC has been stolen from the people by thugs, and the real people of the ANC are those on the streets with nothing'
I LIKE THAT. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
ando
I think your father could have done the same thing.Maybe you are saying that because ANC have forgotten about your family they don't give you big tenders. So stop complaining or blaming them just join us the poor. Atleast you previlage you staying in the suburbs service delivery is better that side. If you were getting all these things you wouldn't have complain. So ska re bora ka ntatago. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
LijahaSisu
I did not want to comment but I see a lot of IFP agents distorting the struggle history. Dual membership of the ANC and SACP is allowed. Thabo Mbeki used to have it, Floyd have it, Gwede have it, Vavi have it etc.Cde Chris Hani was a member of the ANC and that is why his corpse was wrapped with the ANC flag after he had been shot. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
RobinH
KeRata: I dispute that. You know nothing of me other than that I am white, so take your racism and put it where it hurts. I have always respected and admired the man who fought a struggle in which I was an active part, unlike the racism displayed by your post-struggle idiocy. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Fred55
The big question is can the ANC purge itself of the thugs and the corruption and the cancer that is eating it from the "shower" head down or must it be voted out of power??
If the ANC members get rid of the current rotten leadership, will the next lot lining up start chowing our taxes and just like Zuma and his cronies? I think so. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Shorts
It only takes a brave lady to say such remarks. If you check on the current group of ANC, they boast of big stomachs filled with tax payers monies. the in fighting within ANC is all because almost everbody there wants to be instant miiionaires, monies they have never worked for - the so called comrades recieved doubled cheques all because "bebesehlathini". The poor guys who lost their earnings fighting for the libertation of the parties are forgotten, they live in shacks whilst they are having "izambane lepondo". We need to wake up and stop voting for these hooiligangs. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Danielrjvv1
Why are there so many individuals of notoriety saying the same thing. All pointing to ANC not being the party of the people? Who is there to stand against them? None likes the DA, IFP is seen as on oddity, COPE just fails on so many levels, so many people point to the problem, but no one is thinking of a solution? Me included Report Abuse
Tri-Aparthied Alliance = ANC plus two groupies But Today the Aparthied Alliance = ANC plus two groupies and others. Read the Extact below from a SummAry written by Max du Preez (IF YOU NOTICE YOU WILL SEE THAT MAX DU PREEZ ALSO HERE CONFUSES THE ALLIANCE WITH ANC PARTY)
"Four conspicuous events prepared the road for a peaceful and negotiated settlement in South Africa. They were: Nelson Mandela's initiative in 1985 to make contact with the government of President P W Botha; the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 which symbolised the end of international communism; President F W de Klerk's far-reaching announcements of February, 1990, and the release of Nelson Mandela and other political prisoners.
Two fundamental issues had to be negotiated: the transition of power from a race-defined minority to the whole population, and a constitution that would determine the nature of the democracy. The first task was achieved within four years and the second was completed two years later. Given the divided and violent political history of South Africa and the deep-seated suspicions which existed between the white and black political power blocs, the success of the negotiation was seen by the world as a miracle. That is not to say that the process between 1990 and 1994 occurred without drama, setbacks and violence.
The ANC leaders Jacob Zuma, Mathews Phosa en Penuell Maduna were permitted to enter South Africa secretly to "negotiate about negotiations about negotiations" and it was agreed that the first meeting with the National Party (NP) would take place on April 11. On April 1 the ANC broke off all contact with the NP after 16 protesters were shot dead by police in Sebokeng.
Mandela and De Klerk met to solve the impasse. The pattern would repeat itself often: parties breaking off talks and apparently checkmating negotiations until top-level meetings defused the situation.
On April 27,1990, five powerful ANC figures returned to the country giving new momentum to the process. They were: Joe Slovo, chief secretary of the SA Communist Party, Joe Modise, commander in chief of Umkhonto we Sizwe, the ANC's armed wing; Alfred Nzo, secretary general of the ANC, and Ruth Mompati, a member of the ANC's National Executive Committee."
That k@k you are try!ng s3ll it's 0nly w0rth wip!ng the my sh!t h0le with.
In Lusaka they were meeting with the allainace and not only the ANC party. People just like to refer to the alliance as ANC. Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
gillboy
there was nothing wrong with the car all along only the driver has a problem Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
WESOTAN
You mean that Nelson Mandela,Thabo Mbeki and Jacob Zuma failed this country. I m totaly disagree at the event of his tragedic death comrade Chris Hani was already leaving in the so called white area like all of them I doubt bloggers thin for selves. was my father? I would say the same thing as Cleopatra but anyway sometimes its good to make this bold statement as wake up call to our cadres. Report Abuse
Wesotan: What on earth are you trying to say? Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
axaro
@tsayaya
"Cleopatra, you just sprinkled the vampire with holy water, now watch when it gets mad".
You have just made my day. My afternoon was geetting monotonous, and you came! What you have just said is classic. Not even Manyi will match you with his vernomous slanders.
To the ANC: Please advertise the position of the President. Let the Constitutional Court without Mogoengmogoeng shortlist and interview the candidates and allow Khoza (Nedbank) to also apply. In the ANC brain power is Ka'boommm!!!! Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
Leutler
I can't believe you have grown so much Cleo, you were so young in 93, and you dad was a hero, fighter and never afraid of anything, i still miss comrade Chris and Tambo Report Abuse
Apr 12, 2012
P4T
Vele i ANC ibadobha kuphi lama Thugs adla ngezandla ezimbili, umlomo uze ugcwale? unfortunately they now have run amok and making the ANC a disgrace even to the baboon r@ce! ANC please WAKE up.
Please yidlani nge fork and knife at least (like gentlemen and ladies). Vese all over the world politicians are a corrupt lot kodwa at least in modern democracies badla bengabonwa futhi benzela okuningi for umphakathi wabo.
Cleopatra, you are a brave lady but you know they don't like the hear any criticism. Look at all the flak Reuel Khoza has come under for voicing his concerns about our govt. Report Abuse
Apr 13, 2012
SouthAfricanGuy
Can't comment on the Khosa article so I'll say it here. "DEMOCRACY almost demands participation" is wrong. It doesn't "almost" demand participation, it vehemently DEMANDS participation. Report Abuse
Apr 18, 2012
NO-NONSE
You are so correct about Comrade Chris. the thugs are busy milking the countrys money. starting their own bunesses and the forgetting about thos who brought them to power. proffesional claptomaniacs are continously being suspended and not found guilty and then redeployed so that they can steal more from the poor. one can see mdlulis face when he walk because he is sure zuma in on his side. zuma himself is mafia and dictator. amen Report Abuse
Maybe before responding to the article, can the leadership pause a minute, because this does not come from some college journalist or political analyst who's trying to get qucik to the Publications/Media Fame Wagon at the expense of the revolutionery movement, this is one of our own, Can we stand and be counted that as current calibre of members have full interest of the movements above our own, this must spark a noble debate, if today as members of the movement we each take a pollygraphy test to check ourselves, What will be the results?, maybe the elements within the party will be easily exposed, then the movements can be cleaned of these elements, they really give a bad name, Corruption is the worse form of crime, because it robs the most poor a leaving, if state resources will be sold for cash, can it be an RDP house, Social Grants, procurement of state equipment etc. I can then agree with our young star that if Comrade Hani was still alive, he would fight tirelessly to root such elements off the ANC Report Abuse
May 3, 2012
Feelgood
The president and members of parliament should be directly elected and accountable to the people in SA How can this country celebrate freedom day when the people in SA have no voice in the government. Report Abuse
Crystal. Look at our Security System, Political Leaders and the Justice System. ANC is so powerful that it turned to dictate thos who elected it into power. You report or expose criminal acts against police or political officials, you get slained. Andries Tatane, the Tarven owner from Western Cape and many more six feet under, suffered the brutality of our so called Leaders.
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TheNewFreedomFighter
Like I've said before, the ANC and Zuma and Malema in particular would have us believe that the solution to the ANC's leadership crisis lies in electing either Zuma or some puppet of Malema as president of the ANC, when in fact they should be looking in a whole new direction for a whole new leader. But alas, the cupboard is bare!Report Abuse
Printa
I couldn't agree with you mere my sister. Starting with Sanral.Report Abuse
MommaC
ANC provincial secretary Oscar Mabuyane said the ANC would not defend itself from Hani’s assertions...... well you can't really.
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MORNACHIESS
ok i c now .Report Abuse
CheeseBoy
Cleopatra Hani gwede and manyi are going to hit back calling you a wh0re and all sorts of unmentionable names. just watch your back. this is not the time to speak the truth about the disgusting rot within the so called ANC.mbeki must be laughing his a$$ off as we speak. "I told you so" is what comes to mind.Report Abuse
candilious
Halalalalalall andthis is merely the beginning the people shal govern.Fok Malema en hom moere.........people are g@tvol
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Dikmol
ANC provincial secretary Oscar Mabuyane sir, it is impossible or very very difficult to defend yourself against the truth. Just try and you will see. I will repeat part of her words, had Hani been alive today, things would be very,very different in this country. THUGS!!!Report Abuse
tsayaya
Cleopatra, you just sprinkled the vampire with holy water, now watch when it gets mad!Report Abuse
tumzangwana
ANC provincial secretary Oscar Mabuyane said the ANC would not defend itself from Hani’s assertions.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
whatever oscar, ANC wont defend itself because you knows she is telling the truth.
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Skomoro99
TheNewFreedomFighterWel said,dats y i say people need 2 elect a president directly nt this thing of being given n idiot as a president.Zuma was put by Malema thru his stunts.A.N.C is now about money n power not serving the people.
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nghunghunyane
@tsayayaCleopatra, you just sprinkled the vampire with holy water, now watch when it gets mad!
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I cant stop laughing, i can see Gwede le dichubaba.....frantically jumping up and down...
huhuhuhuhuhuhu dead for years
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candilious
@tsayaya- Lol u just made my day ...............bkawkakakakakwkakakakkaI would like to know what Gwede is going to tell you as their always insult,and avoid answering directly. Hands Down for you Cleo
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Blackstone.lebs
well Os-kar there's nothing to defend, 'patra said it like it is.Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
The ANC has been stolen from the people by thugs, and the real people of the ANC are those on the streets with nothing. There are .. puppets in the ANC whom I have no ear to listen to.***********************************************************************************
Cleopatra you have said a mouthful.......... class dismissed
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skhokho21
Skomoro99, but then that means changing the constitution of the country. Do we want that now, last time I checked, you are given that option by voting for the party of your choice which makes it clear who is their presidential candidate.Hey wena Cleo, are you a member of the ANC or SACP? Do n`t come here & talk as if you knew Hani, how was he different from JZ, he was making babies left right & centre out of wedlock.
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SKIZOBANTWANA
Absolutely true.. we support the ANC, but we don't like the current leadership attitude and behaviour, eTolling corrupt officials and Malema.Jeeeeeer eTOLLING makes me s!ck yong
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Shredder
Hilililililililili, Buwaaaaaaaa!! Now the lady has said what we have been saying. Ba vumbuka out of nowhere and occupying seats and stealing our tax money and demanding other money by force telling us that we have to deal with it.Applause! Applause! Applause!
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candilious
@Shredder-E-toll...R500.petrol R700 a tank...food R3000..coffin R5000...grave R800..funeral food R6000......what is cheaper dying or living?Report Abuse
candilious
@SKIZOBANTWANA-E-toll...R500.petrol R700 a tank...food R3000..coffin R5000...grave R800..funeral food R6000......what is cheaper dying or living?@Shredder -Sorry i wanted to say my point exactly
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ProphetofGod
Comrade Chris must be turning in his grave because this is not the anc that he lived and died for, you're so right Cleo.Report Abuse
sechaba30
What a Good Comment, they are stealing left and right, look at Sanral.Report Abuse
zacoz
ProphetofGodComrade Chris must be turning in his grave because this is not the anc that he lived and died for, you're so right Cleo.
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fake prophet...........nxaaaa....disappointed
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RobinH
HEY MODERATOR! WHAT HAPPENED TO MY COMMENT IN WHICH I PRAISE THIS LADY?NOTHING NASTY AT ALL? NO NASTY WORDS LIKE W I F E OR ANYTHING!Report Abuse
RobinH
I had commented that I fully agree with NewFreedomFighter, as well.Report Abuse
Shredder
@RobinHHEY MODERATOR! WHAT HAPPENED TO MY COMMENT IN WHICH I PRAISE THIS LADY?NOTHING NASTY AT ALL? NO NASTY WORDS LIKE W I F E OR ANYTHING!
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Send it again, we want to read it
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tsayaya
it (the vampire) will jump and run and climb trees and run in ceilings and curse and roll in ash and change colour of eyes and grow teeth and threaten to bite and all these sorts of things that Manyi and Dogbreath (Mantashe) are doingReport Abuse
Shredder
@zacoz - fake prophet...........nxaaaa....disappointed======================================================
I am going to report this to the moderator as being abusive.
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Makhosini0408
I wonder Ms Hani, who might be running with the loot?By the way, I am still waiting for the real truth, of who k.illed our beloved HANI.
Judas Iscariot might shed some light perhaps?
Please, please, Luthuli House, who k.illed Han and whyi?
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MAARKENG-JANONG
What a brave young woman, telling it like it is!!!!!Youn are so damn right mama. Whether Mantashe or Manyi will insult you or not doesn't change your objective analysis of the current leasership (or should I say LADDERSHIP?) of the ANC.
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Skomoro99
skhokho21Sho baba,that wil stop all thiz power hungry guys frm fighting for leadership.U c,the electing of a.n.c president can be influenced within the organisation,the delegates have beef wit one anotha n that create all this animosity.So yes if it means changing the constitution.
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Tasto
Who to blame here parents or lack of them(father figure) to call elders THUGS ? I wonder what strategy is Luthuli House devising to react to this and keep their integrity intact at same time,because this is mouthful from an anc child nogal to say the forbiden truth about the untouchbles !!But we knew that it was stolen at Polokwane nowhere else !!
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100%Boer
Hey wena Cleopatra, who are you?Hani will never come back, stop telling us about 'nyew nyew if my father was here nyew nyew...'
Was Hani an ANC member or SACP?
Was he a saint?
He died, so WHAT? we have a country to run don't tell us about dead people...we also have dead people in our familes.
I can see that you wanna bash Malema...watch your mouth daughter..you don't wanna lose your teetch with a kick.
In fact why are you a Hani? Aren't you married? You look too old...get off your big arse & work!
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ProphetofGod
Zacoz, The truth hurtzReport Abuse
OASIS
May Chris Hani's soul rest in peace, a true revolutionary indeed.Report Abuse
Ngwijikhwebu
I agree largely with her views, especially with regard to the quality of leaders currently at the helm of the ANC. They are indeed lar'gely very cor'rupt. But I have got reservations regarding the following statement at'tributed to her father "If my father were still alive, things would have been different, very different,”. How sure is she? Who can pre'dict that? This is Africa my sister, anything is po'ssible. Chris Hani was human like all the ANC leaders and he could have become one of the most cor'rupt ANC politicians.Report Abuse
Wozanami
I have to laugh at people saying "they" stole polokwane. "they" are the greedy thugs who took polokwane. bah... majority of these people who are complaining now were the ones who supported the pirates of polokwane and now things haven't turned into roses, these people seem to forget who they voted for.Report Abuse
TKay
oh okay...Report Abuse
Wozanami
OASISMay Chris Hani's soul rest in peace, a true revolutionary indeed.
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I hear that bro. May he rest in peace.
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Tasto
They should have made this girl i-premier of E,C there & then without delay and update LuthuliHouse later of latest development!!Report Abuse
Nwanawamukalaha
Cleopatra my Cleopatra - well said. Zuma and his bloo*dy greedy crew should step down and the real people with b1ack, green and yellow bloo*d run the Liberation Movement.Report Abuse
Xovizwe
Uyihlabe esikhonkosini mnta ka Hani. Kodwa-ke siyethembisa singuMkhonto weSizwe ukuthi yifu nje leli eliselekile, lizodlula. Ngalesi sikhathi ngonyaka ozayo kuyobe kuguga ifosholo kuvalwe imilomo. Impela siyayeshwama kuKhongolose lento yokubangwa kwezikhundla zengathi kubangwa ukungena ezulwini.Kodwa-ke kuhle ngoba selivalwe umlomo leli bhobhodleyana ebelidunguzelisa izwe.
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Nwanawamukalaha
Zuma never even bothered to honour the fallen hero in Ekurhuleni y/day but he had time to attend to the provincial election of his bloo*dy ally David Mabuza in Mpumalanga.Of late, WHO IS JACOB ZUMA?
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Nwanawamukalaha
I wonder what DJ Winner is gonna say now, just wondering................Report Abuse
Mtho'eng'nanqondo
Anticipated response from Luthuli Revolutionary H#lllhole..." We note b#le assciated with the late revolutionary comrade Hani's daughter Ceopatra with shock and a g#sted fabber. While it is generally known that people follow their names, we never expected Cleopatra to follow the footsteps of the Egyptian Jez#bel who at the hight of her wh#rish tendencies sold out the people of Egypt and reversed the gains of his father. Cleopatra should be reminded that she is a bu#stard in the Hani family and was born out of wedlock. In fact the ANC and the Revolutionary Council does not have records of her as Crd Chris's daughter. It is impossible that the Commander in Chief could be tasked with revolutionary operations like Winkie, Qouto Cannivalle and Vulindlela and still find time to b#y and impr#gnate a pr#stitute. As far as we concerned Cleopatra is nothing more or less than a counter-rev#lutionary, en#my ag#nt, re#ctionary bust#rd!"
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T#eth Khoza, Jetdr#nk Mthembu and G#ndi Mantashe.......while Chuckling Z#ma fix#s sp#ctacles!
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castratorcastro
like MANDLA she is using her father's name to board the gravy train,when whoever she's campaining for wins in mangaung she will be paid with some position in some municipality or parliament.just watch!
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Publc2
“The ANC has been stolen from the people by thugs, and the real people of the ANC are those on the streets with nothing. There are .. puppets in the ANC whom I have no ear to listen to.==================================================================
True that,but be careful you will be suspended,ask Malema.If you are not within the ANC,you will be visited by the Hawks until you are flat.Thats ANC for you!
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ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
I just hope Comrade Gwede is going to keep his mouth shut this time. Don't say anything, Gwede! Because the comrade and sister is telling the truth. The ANC has been stolen by thugs! I hope we shall start naming the thugs in the run-up to Mangaung. Oh, I forget that gwede Mantashe says can only start naming the thugs in October and probably why Julius Malema has been silenced for calling Jacob Zuma a dictator.Report Abuse
Idi007
I see comments are not in the spirit of "freedom of speech". In the land of the blind one eye is king ... hahaha ... see you guys in the future utopia of the african renaissance.Report Abuse
Tsope'
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Tsope'
To d@mb stup!d m0r0nChris Hani was not an ANC member but the member SACP. If your father was alive right now he would have been a Minister of Higher Education at best. Chris Hani was not even half the leader Zuma is right now and was during the struggle. Your father was only a leader of the SACP for just six months, what does he know about being a leader. Honey do not believe the hype, we praise him because we feel sorry for him and his family and the fact that he was shoot dead inside his family yard.
You went to Schools were you could learn to read, write and speak English now you think your are smart. Freedom was not realised because of the Joe Slovo party (SACP) but was because of the ANC party of the people and still is.
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Tsope'
@CleopatraSACP - Communist Party
ANC - Party of the People
Ask around which policies business prefer.
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Pointman
That is what most of us feel - she should run for office. But be careful - she might be a Malema fan - in which case we are better off with the thugs.Report Abuse
RobinH
Shredder. I'm old. Short term memory issues, lol. Things is, the comment actually was initially accepted, so I ditched my cntrl+C copy and carried on elsewhere for a while. Some nutter must have objected to the fact that I indicated admiration for the lady.Report Abuse
Pointman
@RobinH - I think the moderator was educated at a witch doctor college. My first comment this morning was also rejected - no vulgarity at all.Report Abuse
JajasQueen
How does it work? A politician gives birth to a politician? Obviously this dim wit knows nothing about politics. Her father was SACP not ANC - so what would have made Mr Hani interested in the ANC? Or in the fact that we are a capitalist country? Mr Hani's issue would not have been the ANC but the fact that in a country with so much poverty we have the audesity to maintain capitalism. She likened her father to Mr Biko? Jeepwas! the girl is daft!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
JajasQueen
@Mtho'eng'nanqondoI read your report and love it!!!!!!!! VIVA ANC VIVA!!!!!!!!!
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truthhurt
Say it like you see it sister, you are a leader of note, you took all your fathers brains, go get them Tiger.Report Abuse
lindsay
“The ANC has been stolen from the people by thugs,where are those thugs in loot huli house lets say ANC was hijacked by polokwane thugs
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RobinH
Tsope: With respect, Mr Hani held joint membership. He was a member of both the ANC and the SACP.100%Pr!CK: What a pointless outburst. What are you on about, or do you generally just spew random kak at whatever pleases that small mind?
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Tsope'
@RobinHMembers of the SACP do not have two membership cards. If you hang-around with the ANC doesnot mean you belong to the ANC. Get your facts straight.
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cosmicg
Well said...Report Abuse
whoopscess
one day this SA will turn around,ANC watch out.Report Abuse
1TOUCH
If your father was alive we would be Zimbabwe nowReport Abuse
skopomashwabana
very very true!Report Abuse
Legendkai1
ANC provincial secretary Oscar Mabuyane said the ANC would not defend itself from Hani’s assertions..... of course you won't cause you would be making a complete idiot of yourselfthe ANC (Youth leaugue included) needs a complete Leadership makeover
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JajasQueen
@1TOUCHIf your father was alive we would be Zimbabwe now
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And at war!
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serobapipi
JajasQueen@1TOUCH
If your father was alive we would be Zimbabwe now
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And at war!
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She right about the ANC, but I agree Chris would have taken us to war, Military Leaders are Dictators
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lindsay
@Tsopeso cosatu and sacp are not an alliance of the anc they are just groupies is that what you are saying?
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SeshegoGuY
What is this i read People saying Hani was not an ANC member, Ignorant people want to distort our history??He was both an ANC & SACP member, a Commander in the MK. Do u fools even know our History??
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Tsope'
@LindsayYou are 100% correct. Alliance = ANC plus groupies. By the way the groupies have grown since 1994, so now The Alliance = ANC plus Two groupies and others
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karama
Malema and Zuma are disturbing the leadership of the party with their in-fighting.Report Abuse
Gaduka
You asking trouble your way my sister...tomorrow Manyi and Matashe will be calling you names, Leave politics to Politicians...your father was a real great Revolutionalist and Politician, not youReport Abuse
CAKE
“If my father were still alive, he would not be happy with this state of affairs,” said Hani~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
U r just upset because u'r father is dead and can't get any tenders....if he was here...he would also join this culprits.
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RobinH
Tsope: With respect, during the struggle people were permitted to hold membership of two organisations and I think that some of the current leadership still do that6, though of that I am not sure. There is absolutely no doubt that Hani held dual membership. Check your history, Sir. He was an MK commander FFS. READ! THINK! LEARN!Report Abuse
Tsope'
@SeshegoGuYMK membership included other parties like SACP, APLA, PAC, UDF & etc. Again If you hang-around with ANC that does not meant you are an ANC member.
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Secretary
Thanks to w.ear Kaizer chiefs jers.ey. It means that Chris Hani was rising like you do.Rise Kh.osi Rise
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RobinH
Tsope. Fukkit. Okay. Suit yourself. But do go and read up on history. You may find it enlightening.Report Abuse
lindsay
@Tsope see the definition of both words they are so different and also have different meanings so they can't be both its either they are allience of the ANC or they are just groupies which i find it very odd as they were questioning cosatu about involvement of Malema in the e-toll march if they are groupies then they are not accountable to the anc.An alliance is an agreement or friendship between two or more parties, made in order to advance common goals ...
and a groupie is someone who just hangs out with a person particularly a celebrity and is not even a friend to that person but just hangs out .
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karama
No one stole A.N.C people elect leaders in S.A . The people choose educated fools.Report Abuse
Tsope'
@RobinHThat is why you read in the papers that "Some ANC member was 0r member were not allowed or booed-off platform during the SACP get-together of the SACP"
ANC is not SACP and vise versa
ALLIANCE = ANC PLUS TWO GROUPIES AND OTHERS
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RobinH
Tsope. Nobody is saying that the ANC = SACP, you silly man. I am saying, and you can go and check this for yourself as I am not going to waste more thinking on you, that there was a period in which many held membership of both parties. How is this so hard to grasp? Enough of this sh!~t now, Don't bother to respond.Report Abuse
Tsope'
@LindsayAlliance has nothing to do with one party "joining" the other party in agreement or friendship or marrage with.
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RobinH
Someone please help this poor lost soul. I give up. No cure for determined blindness.Report Abuse
Tsope'
ANC not = The Tri-Aparthied AllianceBut The Tri-Aparthied Alliance = ANC plus Two groupies
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Papage
She is wearing Zebra colours, is she Chiefs?Report Abuse
Tsope'
Ask Gatsha Buthelezi, he will tell you that hanging-around with ANC while exile does not mean you are an ANC member.Report Abuse
What!!!
Tsope you name sounds like 80's kwaito songs ari-tsope, tsope, tsopeyou are really emotional about your homeboy Zoooommer ari-tsope, tsope, tsope, tsope!!!
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RobinH
Tsope. We're not talking about Gatsha, are we?" We're talking about Hani. Do your effing homework, and stop repeating the same irrelevant chirp.Report Abuse
KeRataBasadi
She could have just expressed her views as a citizen with a better platform instead of adding her father in the mix of the scuffle, Hani was no saint, he was SACP and not ANC, I personally do not believe Hani died in the same vain Biko did, I would not compare the two any day.Report Abuse
Mhlaliomhle
@Tsope'I suspect you were born in 1995, if so you won't know certain things about the ANC & SACP. The then NP sent delegation to Lusaka in 1987 to meet with ANC in a view to negotiate end of the armed struggle due to the international pressure exerted to the then SA government. Among the ANC 6 NEC members that met with the SA goverment delegation, OR Tambo & Chris Hani were there, Tambo unequivocally stated that the then NEC six members constitute of SACP members however they are ANC first and SACP after.
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What!!!
emotions can distort rational thinking, are these people who keep on saying Hani was SACP not ANC aware that Hani was a member of ANC-NEC, I wonder non ANC member were allowed to be ANC-NEC members???so these are who are saying Hani was not ANC are psychological cases with desperate need for help
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Vanz154
You have hit the nail on the head..I dont blame the provincial secretary for not commenting..because there is nothing to despute..this is a gross example of PALACE POLITICS!!! Finish en klaar! uyand`thola?Report Abuse
mamadimo
Chris Hani is dead finish and klaar, this thing ya gore he would have made a difference is bull kak, I don't even want to insinuate that things would have been better had he been here. The truth is there is a problem in the ANC of solving private wars using the party. That’s what needs to be dealt with. Hani's body ha decomposed long time ago.Report Abuse
RobinH
Mhlaliomhle: Thanks for that affirmation of what I was saying. There are few things more annoying than arrogant ignorance, and I had had enough of the silly child's warbling.Report Abuse
Vanz154
Cake..that`s a very insensitive and immature thing to say.....Report Abuse
ILLUMINATED
Where is Gwede Mantashe? We need him to respond to this woman just as he has been suffering from verbal diarrhoea of late. So he is nowhere to be found. What a coward!Report Abuse
KeRataBasadi
@ RobinHHad Hani been alive, he would not have been your hero, you would have caught the next available flight to perth, this little @ss kissing exercise you have going and your need to discredit the ANC waya waya is manipulative. What do you know about the man ?
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MSG_S
'The ANC has been stolen from the people by thugs, and the real people of the ANC are those on the streets with nothing'I LIKE THAT.
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ando
I think your father could have done the same thing.Maybe you are saying that because ANC have forgotten about your family they don't give you big tenders. So stop complaining or blaming them just join us the poor. Atleast you previlage you staying in the suburbs service delivery is better that side. If you were getting all these things you wouldn't have complain. So ska re bora ka ntatago.Report Abuse
LijahaSisu
I did not want to comment but I see a lot of IFP agents distorting the struggle history. Dual membership of the ANC and SACP is allowed. Thabo Mbeki used to have it, Floyd have it, Gwede have it, Vavi have it etc.Cde Chris Hani was a member of the ANC and that is why his corpse was wrapped with the ANC flag after he had been shot.Report Abuse
RobinH
KeRata: I dispute that. You know nothing of me other than that I am white, so take your racism and put it where it hurts. I have always respected and admired the man who fought a struggle in which I was an active part, unlike the racism displayed by your post-struggle idiocy.Report Abuse
Fred55
The big question is can the ANC purge itself of the thugs and the corruption and the cancer that is eating it from the "shower" head down or must it be voted out of power??If the ANC members get rid of the current rotten leadership, will the next lot lining up start chowing our taxes and just like Zuma and his cronies? I think so.
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Shorts
It only takes a brave lady to say such remarks. If you check on the current group of ANC, they boast of big stomachs filled with tax payers monies. the in fighting within ANC is all because almost everbody there wants to be instant miiionaires, monies they have never worked for - the so called comrades recieved doubled cheques all because "bebesehlathini". The poor guys who lost their earnings fighting for the libertation of the parties are forgotten, they live in shacks whilst they are having "izambane lepondo". We need to wake up and stop voting for these hooiligangs.Report Abuse
Danielrjvv1
Why are there so many individuals of notoriety saying the same thing. All pointing to ANC not being the party of the people? Who is there to stand against them? None likes the DA, IFP is seen as on oddity, COPE just fails on so many levels, so many people point to the problem, but no one is thinking of a solution? Me includedReport Abuse
JahNeh
Hear Hear Cleopatra Hani.Report Abuse
Tsope'
Tri-Aparthied Alliance = ANC plus two groupies But Today the Aparthied Alliance = ANC plus two groupies and others. Read the Extact below from a SummAry written by Max du Preez (IF YOU NOTICE YOU WILL SEE THAT MAX DU PREEZ ALSO HERE CONFUSES THE ALLIANCE WITH ANC PARTY)"Four conspicuous events prepared the road for a peaceful and negotiated settlement in South Africa. They were: Nelson Mandela's initiative in 1985 to make contact with the government of President P W Botha; the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 which symbolised the end of international communism; President F W de Klerk's far-reaching announcements of February, 1990, and the release of Nelson Mandela and other political prisoners.
Two fundamental issues had to be negotiated: the transition of power from a race-defined minority to the whole population, and a constitution that would determine the nature of the democracy. The first task was achieved within four years and the second was completed two years later. Given the divided and violent political history of South Africa and the deep-seated suspicions which existed between the white and black political power blocs, the success of the negotiation was seen by the world as a miracle. That is not to say that the process between 1990 and 1994 occurred without drama, setbacks and violence.
The ANC leaders Jacob Zuma, Mathews Phosa en Penuell Maduna were permitted to enter South Africa secretly to "negotiate about negotiations about negotiations" and it was agreed that the first meeting with the National Party (NP) would take place on April 11. On April 1 the ANC broke off all contact with the NP after 16 protesters were shot dead by police in Sebokeng.
Mandela and De Klerk met to solve the impasse. The pattern would repeat itself often: parties breaking off talks and apparently checkmating negotiations until top-level meetings defused the situation.
On April 27,1990, five powerful ANC figures returned to the country giving new momentum to the process. They were: Joe Slovo, chief secretary of the SA Communist Party, Joe Modise, commander in chief of Umkhonto we Sizwe, the ANC's armed wing; Alfred Nzo, secretary general of the ANC, and Ruth Mompati, a member of the ANC's National Executive Committee."
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Tsope'
@MhlaliomhleThat k@k you are try!ng s3ll it's 0nly w0rth wip!ng the my sh!t h0le with.
In Lusaka they were meeting with the allainace and not only the ANC party. People just like to refer to the alliance as ANC.
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gillboy
there was nothing wrong with the car all along only the driver has a problemReport Abuse
WESOTAN
You mean that Nelson Mandela,Thabo Mbeki and Jacob Zuma failed this country. I m totaly disagree at the event of his tragedic death comrade Chris Hani was already leaving in the so called white area like all of them I doubt bloggers thin for selves. was my father? I would say the same thing as Cleopatra but anyway sometimes its good to make this bold statement as wake up call to our cadres.Report Abuse
Papage
ANC need overall changeReport Abuse
RobinH
Wesotan: What on earth are you trying to say?Report Abuse
axaro
@tsayaya"Cleopatra, you just sprinkled the vampire with holy water, now watch when it gets mad".
You have just made my day. My afternoon was geetting monotonous, and you came! What you have just said is classic. Not even Manyi will match you with his vernomous slanders.
To the ANC: Please advertise the position of the President. Let the Constitutional Court without Mogoengmogoeng shortlist and interview the candidates and allow Khoza (Nedbank) to also apply. In the ANC brain power is Ka'boommm!!!!
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Leutler
I can't believe you have grown so much Cleo, you were so young in 93, and you dad was a hero, fighter and never afraid of anything, i still miss comrade Chris and TamboReport Abuse
P4T
Vele i ANC ibadobha kuphi lama Thugs adla ngezandla ezimbili, umlomo uze ugcwale? unfortunately they now have run amok and making the ANC a disgrace even to the baboon r@ce! ANC please WAKE up.Please yidlani nge fork and knife at least (like gentlemen and ladies). Vese all over the world politicians are a corrupt lot kodwa at least in modern democracies badla bengabonwa futhi benzela okuningi for umphakathi wabo.
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jen
Cleopatra, you are a brave lady but you know they don't like the hear any criticism. Look at all the flak Reuel Khoza has come under for voicing his concerns about our govt.Report Abuse
SouthAfricanGuy
Can't comment on the Khosa article so I'll say it here. "DEMOCRACY almost demands participation" is wrong. It doesn't "almost" demand participation, it vehemently DEMANDS participation.Report Abuse
NO-NONSE
You are so correct about Comrade Chris. the thugs are busy milking the countrys money. starting their own bunesses and the forgetting about thos who brought them to power. proffesional claptomaniacs are continously being suspended and not found guilty and then redeployed so that they can steal more from the poor. one can see mdlulis face when he walk because he is sure zuma in on his side. zuma himself is mafia and dictator. amenReport Abuse
Nthoekana
I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU THE SISTAReport Abuse
Bhekikhaya
Maybe before responding to the article, can the leadership pause a minute, because this does not come from some college journalist or political analyst who's trying to get qucik to the Publications/Media Fame Wagon at the expense of the revolutionery movement, this is one of our own, Can we stand and be counted that as current calibre of members have full interest of the movements above our own, this must spark a noble debate, if today as members of the movement we each take a pollygraphy test to check ourselves, What will be the results?, maybe the elements within the party will be easily exposed, then the movements can be cleaned of these elements, they really give a bad name, Corruption is the worse form of crime, because it robs the most poor a leaving, if state resources will be sold for cash, can it be an RDP house, Social Grants, procurement of state equipment etc. I can then agree with our young star that if Comrade Hani was still alive, he would fight tirelessly to root such elements off the ANCReport Abuse
Feelgood
The president and members of parliament should be directly elected and accountable to the people in SA How can this country celebrate freedom day when the people in SA have no voice in the government.Report Abuse
MadeInSA
Cleopatra my sister, you are right.Report Abuse
Chreamz
Crystal. Look at our Security System, Political Leaders and the Justice System. ANC is so powerful that it turned to dictate thos who elected it into power. You report or expose criminal acts against police or political officials, you get slained. Andries Tatane, the Tarven owner from Western Cape and many more six feet under, suffered the brutality of our so called Leaders.Report Abuse
Janecity
@tsayaya: "Cleopatra, you just sprinkled the vampire with holy water, now watch when it gets mad!"
You really sealed my day with your comment my compatriot!
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Janecity
New and few relevant voices are slowly emerging:1. Nedbank's Khosa's
2. Mamphela Ramphela
3.Rev. Chikane's
3. Cleopatra Hani's
Pls com
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Janecity
New and few relevant voices are slowly emerging:1. Nedbank's Khosa's
2. Mamphela Ramphela
3. Rev. Chikane's
4. Cleopatra Hani's
Still waiting to hear from Dali Tambo & Company!
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McCountryMan
o obile kgomo le nakaReport Abuse
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