The ANC wanted this kind of responses from the YL........This are youth not adult they can do what ever they want even go beyond causing more harm than good.........Watch the space the ANC will learn better when dealing with youth. They wanted this they will get more than they thought...i cant wait to hear what Malema will say in few hour to come....... Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
sibuyim
Malema treated unfair by ZUMA.
Matheshe, Baleka, Zuma will be removed in Mangaung
BEFORE
Malema insulted mbeki, sello moloto
Angie called ANC cde dogs
Vavi went to Zimbabwe to remove Mugabe
Vavi went to Swaziland to remove the king
Blade and Mbalula criticised Mbeki before
Malema is wrong now because he criticises Zuma and Mathashe Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
PleaseGetReal
This is what you get if you call 30+ year old's youth. Adult children still wetting their diapers. Close the anal yl completely. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Ngwana-Modimo-Feela
after having said and done..... to becontinued Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
ngwanamaganagobotswa
Hands off Pule Mabe you idiots!!! Maile is a spoil bratt and he deserve expulsion and a life sentence. How in south africa a fool like Malema earn R3m a year, that is rediculus. Sharpino and others, i can feel that you are tenderpreneurs, so you feel that the goose that are laying golden eggs is no more, you and those who you share sentiments you are bastards like Malema, ga lena melao because ga le tsebe bo tatago lena, go to hell!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
ke-tla-go-ja-gore
David, even if you did not mention that you are a white rac.ist, I would have picked up. 400 years cannot be fixed in 18 - 19 years. Your acestors managed to collect w.ealth for you, that makes you arrongant today, you mentioned that you worked in the townships, how many black di.ed in your hands, how many lives has been lost in your eyes and you expect black to move on as if nothing has happened. I know you are white and your probably passed at a university whithout writing any test, your statement has no evidence of intelligence but a lot of hogwash mixed with your life expirence, it's people like you who would make me want to take revenge of what happend in front of my eyes. Your granddad ki.lled mine for a land and claimed the opposite, Don't come here with your white supremacy knowing very well that you have set the whole system to favour you, when you talk of investers, who are you referring to? are they not white? You pretend that if you were in powere you'd do something better, look here, you used to be in power and "what happenned"? All blacks were shifted in one undeveloped area and you lotted all the we.alth. Don't come here and become jajarag. You are nothing, and you will never be an african, what you are referring to is a document that was trying to accommodate stu.pid white fools to hang around so we can win our land back fair and square. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Livhu1
Zwanda mafhini ca president washu JUJU, Mangaung ri do vha ri henefho ende Julius na ene u do vha a kha mbambe ya ANC national presidency like it or not Malema ndi president washu!!!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
ngwanamaganagobotswa
Livhu, t Malema ndi president washu!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to hell stupid Vhenda, you and your fools expell Lehlogonolo, le bontsho bjo. Voting catle!!!!!!
These ANCYL boys need to be circumcised, all of them. We don't want mashoboro walking around spreading AIDS. The same goes for their old man Zuma. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
ndhandhazi
Zuma is stronger than Malema politically. He does not fight personal politics. Women love him. The Khoza lady is not a child she proposed Msholozi her self. You know that actions speaks louder than voicing. This youth leage must be disbanded. They now getting worse,. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
ndhandhazi
ANC Constitution does not have a clause about which lady you are allowed to propose or date. It is a personal issue. The boys are out of ideas. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Sageville
If juju want his own personal party why doesn't he start one. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
ngwanamaganagobotswa
You are absolutely rights Ndhandhazi, this ANCYL idiots are insane, Malema should fight his war and stop using the name ANC and ANCYL.At the age of 31 yrs he is a man. He must face SARS, public protector and tha Hawks. Malema is expelled from the ANC thus he is history. The people who know Malema better are the one at Seshego, they will solve him appropriately. Four years ago he was sleeping in a four room house, today he is a milioner, that is nonsense, i am not jeulus, he is corrupt, Limpopo goverment is bakrupt because of this idiot and his friends Lebogo, Buthane and Moswane. No poloticks here but criminal cases.... Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
RobinH
Bunch of babies without potty training. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
iPhone4
@ PleaseGetReal I couldn't have said it better. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
SisterD
people can only take you down just because you are above them. Zuma is scared for Malema.
he has to be expelled as well.i dont know why lerona we were just so stupid by really allowing this zuma to be the president. it shows now that he is having everything to odo with sharbi shk and indeed he raped, and he knows something ka armsdeal. he is not good for president. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
sabza007
I can't wait to be entertained. Go for it my boys. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
ngwanamaganagobotswa
South Afric is not banana republic, and Malema and idiots will not make it one by dreaming that Zuma will go to courts because of that he does not see eye to eye with him. They did disrupt Zuma case until it was scrapt of the roll, no Magistrate will be fooled by Malema. Malema is finished!!! Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Oshmax
If this is true, what an embarasment for the ANC. Open defiance, purging without due process, this man would be a tyrant. Report Abuse
Long live to the ANCYL of OR Tambo, Nelson Mandela, Peter Mokaba,
Fikile Mbalula and the Commander-in-Chief of economic freedom fighters
Cde CHE Malema. To hell with the Kangaroo court and clowns representing
it. The verdict is therefore rejected by the ANCYL. They will not silence the
ANCYL we have more Malemas. The circus clowns just won a minor battle
the war is yet to come. We shall defend the ANC from the Fornicator and the
G o a t.
Malema is definately gonna bounce back, showerhead should just wait and see Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Wozanami
And the ANCYL "leaders" bring down their iron fist on any dissent or threats.
At the same time, ANCYL "leaders" claim they are being victimised because they are a voice of dissent in the ANC.
And the excuse is that "what's good for the goose, is good for the gander". If the ANC can pick on us for speaking our mind, then we can pick on ANCYL members for speaking their mind. But also it's not fair that the ANC picks on us.
JUJU with his jujuistic ways is a threat to zuma hence the decision taken to reduce political influence of the powerful YL for him to serve second term. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
DABRISTO
@Sharpino
can you please tell me what is a youth? really is Malema and his crew still a youth? look at Mabe...again @Sharpino you even called them "kinds"!
i have a boy who is 10 years old I call him a kid! Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Senganga247
If the anti-Malema and President Zuma have nothing to hide then they should not be concerned about anything.
The likes of;
- Moral questions of JZ on Khoza's daughter and that woman that He fornicated with,
- His relationship with Shabir Shaick,
- His relationship with Guptas,
- Arms deal. Involving Mac Maharaj.
Senganga: That form of argument is not even close to being logical. So let us assume that JZ is corrupt (and we ALL have our theories in this regard). What on earth has that to do with justifying the seriously childish antics of this ridiculous man and his cohorts? It's about as absurd as the following hypothetical statement: I can't be wrong, because he is wrong. Absolutely nonsensical, as I think you must agree.
SeshegoGuY: Who's the bad guy? Anyone JM and Floyd decide they don't like today. Means nothing, as tomorrow it will probably be someone else. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
DJWinner
sibuyim
Malema treated unfair by ZUMA.
Matheshe, Baleka, Zuma will be removed in Mangaung
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No. We will there to give Zuma the second term. Let's see who wins the battle. Unless you give me 5 good reasons why should I vote against Zuma. I think Zuma is doing a very good job. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
DJWinner
Senganga247
If the anti-Malema and President Zuma have nothing to hide then they should not be concerned about anything.
The likes of;
- Moral questions of JZ on Khoza's daughter and that woman that He fornicated with,
- His relationship with Shabir Shaick,
- His relationship with Guptas,
- Arms deal. Involving Mac Maharaj.
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These things were investigated and no wrong doing found. We understand that Zuma will make some mistakes there and there. After all he is human, we humans and we will forgive me. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
MGEEZ
Mhhhhh!!!! Intreresting; we will be watching this space???? I still maintain that this saga is just for the public's consumption; but JZ; Malemna and TM are in this together (Comrades in arms)!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Sharpino
ngwanamaganagobotswa
"....ga lena melao because ga le tsebe bo tatago lena, go to hell!!!!" Mind your language........ Next time ke tlo go roga mareteeeeeeee.
SisterD
people can only take you down just because you are above them. Zuma is scared for Malema.
he has to be expelled as well.i dont know why lerona we were just so stupid by really allowing this zuma to be the president. it shows now that he is having everything to odo with sharbi shk and indeed he raped, and he knows something ka armsdeal. he is not good for president.
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Be careful girl, you're too angry and you may get sick.
Zuma got his time in court and was acquired and both me and you were happy. Now that Malema is sinking you think the Judge was mistaken. Shame on you pudding. Just forget about Manganung because Malema knows that he doesn't even have 1% chance of changing the fact that Zuma will be taking a second term unchallenged.
Tell me, who do you think will challenge Zuma for presidency at Mangaung. Only if Malema will be challenging Zuma for presidency himself otherwise no one is brave enough. Report Abuse
Sure this guys are right, how many ANC Big wigs did something wrong and they were forgiven. Malema should be forgiven as well. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Senganga247
@RobinH, the point that the ANCYL is making is that why does the ANC only discipline them and not other people who are tanishing the image of the party?
What JZ as the head of the ANC did by sleeping with those 2 ladies raises questions about our presidents morals. We all know that the issue of his corruption charges was swept under the carpet through the help of ANC members. The parties integrity is seriously questioned in this regard. When you become a leader it is no longer about what you do in the office but also after hours. Performing well in the office and screwing girls after hours will definitely be considered.
This affect the image about our country worldwide. E.g, the president of IMF was forced to resign after his allegations of sleeping with a hotel employee. Bill Clinton's BJ issue affected USA in a big way.
Issues such as this need to go through DC just as the ANCYL had to also face the DC. Not forgettign those that chaired meetings drunk. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
RealAfricanDemocrat
@Xovizwe
These Zimpopo YL are really frustrated. Now it Zimpopo against Zuma in Mangaung. How many votes does ANCYL have in ANC Conference.
ANC Structures - 50%
ANCYL - 15%
ALLIANCE PARTNERS - 10%
WOMAN'S LEAGUE - 15%
VETERANS LEAGUE - 10%
So I wonder what the ANCYL is thinking, when they say they can remove Zuma @ Mangaung.
@Xovizwe
SisterD
people can only take you down just because you are above them. Zuma is scared for Malema.
he has to be expelled as well.i dont know why lerona we were just so stupid by really allowing this zuma to be the president. it shows now that he is having everything to odo with sharbi shk and indeed he raped, and he knows something ka armsdeal. he is not good for president.
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Be careful girl, you're too angry and you may get sick.
Zuma got his time in court and was acquired and both me and you were happy. Now that Malema is sinking you think the Judge was mistaken. Shame on you pudding. Just forget about Manganung because Malema knows that he doesn't even have 1% chance of changing the fact that Zuma will be taking a second term unchallenged.
Tell me, who do you think will challenge Zuma for presidency at Mangaung. Only if Malema will be challenging Zuma for presidency himself otherwise no one is brave enough.
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This simplistic thinking may well be the rest of being a gullible victim of propaganda. It is good that Jacob Zuma and cohorts think that they already have a second term. It is good that they think Julius Malema is finished and that the Mangaung battle has already been won. It is good that they think the ANC Youth League has already been defeated but as for me, I am reserving one of those front seats at Mangaung to see that knockout blow when JZ goes sprawling along the robes. Will be thre to watch the swollen, squinty and bloody eyes and attempts to revive the old man. If the old man knows wht is good for him, he should just stay at home!
@Senganga247
@RobinH, the point that the ANCYL is making is that why does the ANC only discipline them and not other people who are tanishing the image of the party?
What JZ as the head of the ANC did by sleeping with those 2 ladies raises questions about our presidents morals. We all know that the issue of his corruption charges was swept under the carpet through the help of ANC members. The parties integrity is seriously questioned in this regard. When you become a leader it is no longer about what you do in the office but also after hours. Performing well in the office and screwing girls after hours will definitely be considered.
This affect the image about our country worldwide. E.g, the president of IMF was forced to resign after his allegations of sleeping with a hotel employee. Bill Clinton's BJ issue affected USA in a big way.
Issues such as this need to go through DC just as the ANCYL had to also face the DC. Not forgettign those that chaired meetings drunk.
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It was the very same Malema who was defending Zuma through all the things you mentioned he was even taken to human rights court for saying the woman enjoyed sex and even go an extend of asking for taxi fare in the morning. Today he wanna claim that Zuma is bad, only fool will listen to what Malema says, people have been saying Zuma is bad for precidency but he was ready to kil.l for Zuma, people who allow to be used by Malema are more stupid than I thought. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
RobinH
Senganga: With respect, the ANCYL has lost all credibility. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Senganga247
RobinH
Senganga: With respect, the ANCYL has lost all credibility.
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Wait until all covered corruption charges against ANC leaders are brought back .
Your statement will read, "With respect, the ANC has lost all credibility".
Lets hope Mangaung can restore some dignity back in the ANC.
Malema insulted mbeki, sello moloto
Angie called ANC cde dogs
Vavi went to Zimbabwe to remove Mugabe
Vavi went to Swaziland to remove the king
Blade and Mbalula criticised Mbeki before
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adding on your inforamtion GWEDE supported ZANU-PF nothing was done......MBEKI called AFRICAN LEADERS PUPPPETS nothing was done...WHY WHY WHY Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Senganga247
@Mfundisi99,
You are right. Unfortunately for Malema He did not know that JZ would turn His back on him 1 day.
How I wish that JZ would have acted like a true leader by disciplining His comrades when they were out of order in Polokwane. But because the situation was favouring him He allowed it to continue. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Sane1
@Sibuyim, Malema is wrong now because he criticises Zuma and Mathashe
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I don't remember that being the charge. Pls get your facts straight & refrain from making sensational statements which are baseless and you must apply your mind before you write. Unless you think the sae way as these clowns called the ancyl in their nec circus.
You are correct on angie, mbalula & on malema insulting mbeki, moloto & even mbazima. I'm no fan of mbeki but he was disrespected.
On zuma, he's no saint. He shut up when malema went on the rampage insulting everyone but him because it suited him then. The barrage of insults are now turned at him. But julius was also not charged for that. Get it! Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
T.C.T
Sane1
YES BECAUSE THEY ARE BIASE what my comrade is saying is all memebers of ANC must be equal and those who we specified did bring disrepute in ANC.. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Senganga247
T.C.T
sibuyim
Malema insulted mbeki, sello moloto
Angie called ANC cde dogs
Vavi went to Zimbabwe to remove Mugabe
Vavi went to Swaziland to remove the king
Blade and Mbalula criticised Mbeki before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
adding on your inforamtion GWEDE supported ZANU-PF nothing was done......MBEKI called AFRICAN LEADERS PUPPPETS nothing was done...WHY WHY WHY
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100% right. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
T.C.T
Senganga247
this whole saga is not about comrade JUJU but the principle,values,ethics etc the descipline myst appl to all members of ANC as a whole and DC was not supposed to be the last resort to deal with the issue but wait until the conference decide who they want...elders thought they can use DC to deal with comrade JUJU and undermine the youth Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Senganga247
DJWinner
Senganga247
If the anti-Malema and President Zuma have nothing to hide then they should not be concerned about anything.
The likes of;
- Moral questions of JZ on Khoza's daughter and that woman that He fornicated with,
- His relationship with Shabir Shaick,
- His relationship with Guptas,
- Arms deal. Involving Mac Maharaj.
................................................................................................................................
These things were investigated and no wrong doing found. We understand that Zuma will make some mistakes there and there. After all he is human, we humans and we will forgive me.
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The corruption charges were sweeped under the carpet just before JZ became the president. Unless if you know something that all South Africans do not know.
Yes He is human, however there are certain positions that need a man of integrity. Especially the one of being the country's president. We do not want some girl from Kwamahambawedwa township appearing on TV claimining she is pregnant with the president's child. Report Abuse
Mar 6, 2012
thembag0206
Sowetan u don't know what u want right now ur agains info bill but ur censor us i don't see any vulgar words recheck my comment unless you have a different view, Report Abuse
Mar 6, 2012
Sakaza
the ANC will teach these idiots what ANC is all about, the youth will always remain youth leageu of the ANC. Report Abuse
Mar 6, 2012
xhosagirl
@ngwanamaganagobotswa you are right my brother. Report Abuse
Mar 6, 2012
RealAfricanDemocrat
Why do newspapers like spreading lies? The Afrikaans saying that "hy lieg soos 'n koerant" is so strue. Pule Mabe has not been suspended and is fully behind the ANC Youth League positions. Hai, man, newspapers should stop lying about things that do not exist. Report Abuse
Mar 6, 2012
tee_the_man
Malema and the ANCYL should have just focused on youth matters. Some of our youth drink, smoke and even steal from us to support their n#aope habits and partying life styles. How your and my parents and their siblings, grew up is no different to how the kids in their villages are growing up today. Some of us are really fortunate that our parents worked hard (as nurses, teachers etc) to move away from poverty, but also blaming the Apartheid era for the f### ups will never sort out the problems we are all facing at the moment. The problem starts with the fat politcians who want to reward their so called fight for freedom, but they are forgetting that it took a nation to get out of Apartheid and it can take a nation to start a civil war because of their selfish ways. And by the look of things, the most pissed off citizen is the poor man who has been recieving promises ever since 1994. So, the YL needs to focus on youth issues and leave the grown up stuff to the parliement and Malema just needs swallow his pride and apologise and later strategise his come back when all the attention is away from him, because it is the only way ANC will listen to him. Pointing fingers only makes things worse for him and it does not look like the top brass will budge at Malema's cry. Report Abuse
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Sharpino
The ANC wanted this kind of responses from the YL........This are youth not adult they can do what ever they want even go beyond causing more harm than good.........Watch the space the ANC will learn better when dealing with youth. They wanted this they will get more than they thought...i cant wait to hear what Malema will say in few hour to come.......Report Abuse
sibuyim
Malema treated unfair by ZUMA.Matheshe, Baleka, Zuma will be removed in Mangaung
BEFORE
Malema insulted mbeki, sello moloto
Angie called ANC cde dogs
Vavi went to Zimbabwe to remove Mugabe
Vavi went to Swaziland to remove the king
Blade and Mbalula criticised Mbeki before
Malema is wrong now because he criticises Zuma and Mathashe
Report Abuse
PleaseGetReal
This is what you get if you call 30+ year old's youth. Adult children still wetting their diapers. Close the anal yl completely.Report Abuse
Ngwana-Modimo-Feela
after having said and done..... to becontinuedReport Abuse
ngwanamaganagobotswa
Hands off Pule Mabe you idiots!!! Maile is a spoil bratt and he deserve expulsion and a life sentence. How in south africa a fool like Malema earn R3m a year, that is rediculus. Sharpino and others, i can feel that you are tenderpreneurs, so you feel that the goose that are laying golden eggs is no more, you and those who you share sentiments you are bastards like Malema, ga lena melao because ga le tsebe bo tatago lena, go to hell!!!!Report Abuse
ke-tla-go-ja-gore
David, even if you did not mention that you are a white rac.ist, I would have picked up. 400 years cannot be fixed in 18 - 19 years. Your acestors managed to collect w.ealth for you, that makes you arrongant today, you mentioned that you worked in the townships, how many black di.ed in your hands, how many lives has been lost in your eyes and you expect black to move on as if nothing has happened. I know you are white and your probably passed at a university whithout writing any test, your statement has no evidence of intelligence but a lot of hogwash mixed with your life expirence, it's people like you who would make me want to take revenge of what happend in front of my eyes. Your granddad ki.lled mine for a land and claimed the opposite, Don't come here with your white supremacy knowing very well that you have set the whole system to favour you, when you talk of investers, who are you referring to? are they not white? You pretend that if you were in powere you'd do something better, look here, you used to be in power and "what happenned"? All blacks were shifted in one undeveloped area and you lotted all the we.alth. Don't come here and become jajarag. You are nothing, and you will never be an african, what you are referring to is a document that was trying to accommodate stu.pid white fools to hang around so we can win our land back fair and square.Report Abuse
Livhu1
Zwanda mafhini ca president washu JUJU, Mangaung ri do vha ri henefho ende Julius na ene u do vha a kha mbambe ya ANC national presidency like it or not Malema ndi president washu!!!!!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
ngwanamaganagobotswa
Livhu, t Malema ndi president washu!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to hell stupid Vhenda, you and your fools expell Lehlogonolo, le bontsho bjo. Voting catle!!!!!!Report Abuse
KukuyaLethosa
These ANCYL boys need to be circumcised, all of them. We don't want mashoboro walking around spreading AIDS. The same goes for their old man Zuma.Report Abuse
ndhandhazi
Zuma is stronger than Malema politically. He does not fight personal politics. Women love him. The Khoza lady is not a child she proposed Msholozi her self. You know that actions speaks louder than voicing. This youth leage must be disbanded. They now getting worse,.Report Abuse
ndhandhazi
ANC Constitution does not have a clause about which lady you are allowed to propose or date. It is a personal issue. The boys are out of ideas.Report Abuse
Sageville
If juju want his own personal party why doesn't he start one.Report Abuse
ngwanamaganagobotswa
You are absolutely rights Ndhandhazi, this ANCYL idiots are insane, Malema should fight his war and stop using the name ANC and ANCYL.At the age of 31 yrs he is a man. He must face SARS, public protector and tha Hawks. Malema is expelled from the ANC thus he is history. The people who know Malema better are the one at Seshego, they will solve him appropriately. Four years ago he was sleeping in a four room house, today he is a milioner, that is nonsense, i am not jeulus, he is corrupt, Limpopo goverment is bakrupt because of this idiot and his friends Lebogo, Buthane and Moswane. No poloticks here but criminal cases....Report Abuse
RobinH
Bunch of babies without potty training.Report Abuse
iPhone4
@ PleaseGetReal I couldn't have said it better.Report Abuse
SisterD
people can only take you down just because you are above them. Zuma is scared for Malema.he has to be expelled as well.i dont know why lerona we were just so stupid by really allowing this zuma to be the president. it shows now that he is having everything to odo with sharbi shk and indeed he raped, and he knows something ka armsdeal. he is not good for president.
Report Abuse
sabza007
I can't wait to be entertained. Go for it my boys.Report Abuse
ngwanamaganagobotswa
South Afric is not banana republic, and Malema and idiots will not make it one by dreaming that Zuma will go to courts because of that he does not see eye to eye with him. They did disrupt Zuma case until it was scrapt of the roll, no Magistrate will be fooled by Malema. Malema is finished!!!Report Abuse
Oshmax
If this is true, what an embarasment for the ANC. Open defiance, purging without due process, this man would be a tyrant.Report Abuse
DeCock1
Siyabuya!!!Report Abuse
Charley4sure
Long live to the ANCYL of OR Tambo, Nelson Mandela, Peter Mokaba,Fikile Mbalula and the Commander-in-Chief of economic freedom fighters
Cde CHE Malema. To hell with the Kangaroo court and clowns representing
it. The verdict is therefore rejected by the ANCYL. They will not silence the
ANCYL we have more Malemas. The circus clowns just won a minor battle
the war is yet to come. We shall defend the ANC from the Fornicator and the
G o a t.
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Kwailane
Malema is definately gonna bounce back, showerhead should just wait and seeReport Abuse
Wozanami
And the ANCYL "leaders" bring down their iron fist on any dissent or threats.At the same time, ANCYL "leaders" claim they are being victimised because they are a voice of dissent in the ANC.
And the excuse is that "what's good for the goose, is good for the gander". If the ANC can pick on us for speaking our mind, then we can pick on ANCYL members for speaking their mind. But also it's not fair that the ANC picks on us.
It's a circus.
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zino
JUJU with his jujuistic ways is a threat to zuma hence the decision taken to reduce political influence of the powerful YL for him to serve second term.Report Abuse
DABRISTO
@Sharpinocan you please tell me what is a youth? really is Malema and his crew still a youth? look at Mabe...again @Sharpino you even called them "kinds"!
i have a boy who is 10 years old I call him a kid!
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Senganga247
If the anti-Malema and President Zuma have nothing to hide then they should not be concerned about anything.The likes of;
- Moral questions of JZ on Khoza's daughter and that woman that He fornicated with,
- His relationship with Shabir Shaick,
- His relationship with Guptas,
- Arms deal. Involving Mac Maharaj.
Report Abuse
SeshegoGuY
Let the Movie beginWho's the bad-guy this time???
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RobinH
Senganga: That form of argument is not even close to being logical. So let us assume that JZ is corrupt (and we ALL have our theories in this regard). What on earth has that to do with justifying the seriously childish antics of this ridiculous man and his cohorts? It's about as absurd as the following hypothetical statement: I can't be wrong, because he is wrong. Absolutely nonsensical, as I think you must agree.SeshegoGuY: Who's the bad guy? Anyone JM and Floyd decide they don't like today. Means nothing, as tomorrow it will probably be someone else.
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DJWinner
sibuyimMalema treated unfair by ZUMA.
Matheshe, Baleka, Zuma will be removed in Mangaung
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No. We will there to give Zuma the second term. Let's see who wins the battle. Unless you give me 5 good reasons why should I vote against Zuma. I think Zuma is doing a very good job.
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DJWinner
Senganga247If the anti-Malema and President Zuma have nothing to hide then they should not be concerned about anything.
The likes of;
- Moral questions of JZ on Khoza's daughter and that woman that He fornicated with,
- His relationship with Shabir Shaick,
- His relationship with Guptas,
- Arms deal. Involving Mac Maharaj.
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These things were investigated and no wrong doing found. We understand that Zuma will make some mistakes there and there. After all he is human, we humans and we will forgive me.
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MGEEZ
Mhhhhh!!!! Intreresting; we will be watching this space???? I still maintain that this saga is just for the public's consumption; but JZ; Malemna and TM are in this together (Comrades in arms)!!!!Report Abuse
Sharpino
ngwanamaganagobotswa"....ga lena melao because ga le tsebe bo tatago lena, go to hell!!!!" Mind your language........ Next time ke tlo go roga mareteeeeeeee.
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Xovizwe
These Zimpopo YL are really frustrated. Now it Zimpopo against Zuma in Mangaung. How many votes does ANCYL have in ANC Conference.ANC Structures - 50%
ANCYL - 15%
ALLIANCE PARTNERS - 10%
WOMAN'S LEAGUE - 15%
VETERANS LEAGUE - 10%
So I wonder what the ANCYL is thinking, when they say they can remove Zuma @ Mangaung.
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Xovizwe
SisterDpeople can only take you down just because you are above them. Zuma is scared for Malema.
he has to be expelled as well.i dont know why lerona we were just so stupid by really allowing this zuma to be the president. it shows now that he is having everything to odo with sharbi shk and indeed he raped, and he knows something ka armsdeal. he is not good for president.
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Be careful girl, you're too angry and you may get sick.
Zuma got his time in court and was acquired and both me and you were happy. Now that Malema is sinking you think the Judge was mistaken. Shame on you pudding. Just forget about Manganung because Malema knows that he doesn't even have 1% chance of changing the fact that Zuma will be taking a second term unchallenged.
Tell me, who do you think will challenge Zuma for presidency at Mangaung. Only if Malema will be challenging Zuma for presidency himself otherwise no one is brave enough.
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Wanani
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Wanani
Sure this guys are right, how many ANC Big wigs did something wrong and they were forgiven. Malema should be forgiven as well.Report Abuse
Senganga247
@RobinH, the point that the ANCYL is making is that why does the ANC only discipline them and not other people who are tanishing the image of the party?What JZ as the head of the ANC did by sleeping with those 2 ladies raises questions about our presidents morals. We all know that the issue of his corruption charges was swept under the carpet through the help of ANC members. The parties integrity is seriously questioned in this regard. When you become a leader it is no longer about what you do in the office but also after hours. Performing well in the office and screwing girls after hours will definitely be considered.
This affect the image about our country worldwide. E.g, the president of IMF was forced to resign after his allegations of sleeping with a hotel employee. Bill Clinton's BJ issue affected USA in a big way.
Issues such as this need to go through DC just as the ANCYL had to also face the DC. Not forgettign those that chaired meetings drunk.
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RealAfricanDemocrat
@XovizweThese Zimpopo YL are really frustrated. Now it Zimpopo against Zuma in Mangaung. How many votes does ANCYL have in ANC Conference.
ANC Structures - 50%
ANCYL - 15%
ALLIANCE PARTNERS - 10%
WOMAN'S LEAGUE - 15%
VETERANS LEAGUE - 10%
So I wonder what the ANCYL is thinking, when they say they can remove Zuma @ Mangaung.
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SisterD
people can only take you down just because you are above them. Zuma is scared for Malema.
he has to be expelled as well.i dont know why lerona we were just so stupid by really allowing this zuma to be the president. it shows now that he is having everything to odo with sharbi shk and indeed he raped, and he knows something ka armsdeal. he is not good for president.
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Be careful girl, you're too angry and you may get sick.
Zuma got his time in court and was acquired and both me and you were happy. Now that Malema is sinking you think the Judge was mistaken. Shame on you pudding. Just forget about Manganung because Malema knows that he doesn't even have 1% chance of changing the fact that Zuma will be taking a second term unchallenged.
Tell me, who do you think will challenge Zuma for presidency at Mangaung. Only if Malema will be challenging Zuma for presidency himself otherwise no one is brave enough.
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This simplistic thinking may well be the rest of being a gullible victim of propaganda. It is good that Jacob Zuma and cohorts think that they already have a second term. It is good that they think Julius Malema is finished and that the Mangaung battle has already been won. It is good that they think the ANC Youth League has already been defeated but as for me, I am reserving one of those front seats at Mangaung to see that knockout blow when JZ goes sprawling along the robes. Will be thre to watch the swollen, squinty and bloody eyes and attempts to revive the old man. If the old man knows wht is good for him, he should just stay at home!
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Mfundisi99
@Senganga247@RobinH, the point that the ANCYL is making is that why does the ANC only discipline them and not other people who are tanishing the image of the party?
What JZ as the head of the ANC did by sleeping with those 2 ladies raises questions about our presidents morals. We all know that the issue of his corruption charges was swept under the carpet through the help of ANC members. The parties integrity is seriously questioned in this regard. When you become a leader it is no longer about what you do in the office but also after hours. Performing well in the office and screwing girls after hours will definitely be considered.
This affect the image about our country worldwide. E.g, the president of IMF was forced to resign after his allegations of sleeping with a hotel employee. Bill Clinton's BJ issue affected USA in a big way.
Issues such as this need to go through DC just as the ANCYL had to also face the DC. Not forgettign those that chaired meetings drunk.
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It was the very same Malema who was defending Zuma through all the things you mentioned he was even taken to human rights court for saying the woman enjoyed sex and even go an extend of asking for taxi fare in the morning. Today he wanna claim that Zuma is bad, only fool will listen to what Malema says, people have been saying Zuma is bad for precidency but he was ready to kil.l for Zuma, people who allow to be used by Malema are more stupid than I thought.
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RobinH
Senganga: With respect, the ANCYL has lost all credibility.Report Abuse
Senganga247
RobinHSenganga: With respect, the ANCYL has lost all credibility.
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Wait until all covered corruption charges against ANC leaders are brought back .
Your statement will read, "With respect, the ANC has lost all credibility".
Lets hope Mangaung can restore some dignity back in the ANC.
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T.C.T
sibuyimMalema insulted mbeki, sello moloto
Angie called ANC cde dogs
Vavi went to Zimbabwe to remove Mugabe
Vavi went to Swaziland to remove the king
Blade and Mbalula criticised Mbeki before
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adding on your inforamtion GWEDE supported ZANU-PF nothing was done......MBEKI called AFRICAN LEADERS PUPPPETS nothing was done...WHY WHY WHY
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Senganga247
@Mfundisi99,You are right. Unfortunately for Malema He did not know that JZ would turn His back on him 1 day.
How I wish that JZ would have acted like a true leader by disciplining His comrades when they were out of order in Polokwane. But because the situation was favouring him He allowed it to continue.
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Sane1
@Sibuyim, Malema is wrong now because he criticises Zuma and Mathashe------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't remember that being the charge. Pls get your facts straight & refrain from making sensational statements which are baseless and you must apply your mind before you write. Unless you think the sae way as these clowns called the ancyl in their nec circus.
You are correct on angie, mbalula & on malema insulting mbeki, moloto & even mbazima. I'm no fan of mbeki but he was disrespected.
On zuma, he's no saint. He shut up when malema went on the rampage insulting everyone but him because it suited him then. The barrage of insults are now turned at him. But julius was also not charged for that. Get it!
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T.C.T
Sane1YES BECAUSE THEY ARE BIASE what my comrade is saying is all memebers of ANC must be equal and those who we specified did bring disrepute in ANC..
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Senganga247
T.C.Tsibuyim
Malema insulted mbeki, sello moloto
Angie called ANC cde dogs
Vavi went to Zimbabwe to remove Mugabe
Vavi went to Swaziland to remove the king
Blade and Mbalula criticised Mbeki before
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adding on your inforamtion GWEDE supported ZANU-PF nothing was done......MBEKI called AFRICAN LEADERS PUPPPETS nothing was done...WHY WHY WHY
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100% right.
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T.C.T
Senganga247this whole saga is not about comrade JUJU but the principle,values,ethics etc the descipline myst appl to all members of ANC as a whole and DC was not supposed to be the last resort to deal with the issue but wait until the conference decide who they want...elders thought they can use DC to deal with comrade JUJU and undermine the youth
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If the anti-Malema and President Zuma have nothing to hide then they should not be concerned about anything.
The likes of;
- Moral questions of JZ on Khoza's daughter and that woman that He fornicated with,
- His relationship with Shabir Shaick,
- His relationship with Guptas,
- Arms deal. Involving Mac Maharaj.
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These things were investigated and no wrong doing found. We understand that Zuma will make some mistakes there and there. After all he is human, we humans and we will forgive me.
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The corruption charges were sweeped under the carpet just before JZ became the president. Unless if you know something that all South Africans do not know.
Yes He is human, however there are certain positions that need a man of integrity. Especially the one of being the country's president. We do not want some girl from Kwamahambawedwa township appearing on TV claimining she is pregnant with the president's child.
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thembag0206
Sowetan u don't know what u want right now ur agains info bill but ur censor us i don't see any vulgar words recheck my comment unless you have a different view,Report Abuse
Sakaza
the ANC will teach these idiots what ANC is all about, the youth will always remain youth leageu of the ANC.Report Abuse
xhosagirl
@ngwanamaganagobotswa you are right my brother.Report Abuse
RealAfricanDemocrat
Why do newspapers like spreading lies? The Afrikaans saying that "hy lieg soos 'n koerant" is so strue. Pule Mabe has not been suspended and is fully behind the ANC Youth League positions. Hai, man, newspapers should stop lying about things that do not exist.Report Abuse
tee_the_man
Malema and the ANCYL should have just focused on youth matters. Some of our youth drink, smoke and even steal from us to support their n#aope habits and partying life styles. How your and my parents and their siblings, grew up is no different to how the kids in their villages are growing up today. Some of us are really fortunate that our parents worked hard (as nurses, teachers etc) to move away from poverty, but also blaming the Apartheid era for the f### ups will never sort out the problems we are all facing at the moment. The problem starts with the fat politcians who want to reward their so called fight for freedom, but they are forgetting that it took a nation to get out of Apartheid and it can take a nation to start a civil war because of their selfish ways. And by the look of things, the most pissed off citizen is the poor man who has been recieving promises ever since 1994. So, the YL needs to focus on youth issues and leave the grown up stuff to the parliement and Malema just needs swallow his pride and apologise and later strategise his come back when all the attention is away from him, because it is the only way ANC will listen to him. Pointing fingers only makes things worse for him and it does not look like the top brass will budge at Malema's cry.Report Abuse
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