Mar 2, 2012 | Report by Moipone Malefane |
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THE ANC is pushing for the establishment of more state-owned enterprises covering diverse areas such as publishing, banking, medicines, manufacturing and mining.
Talking of nationalisation in a diplomatic and sugar-coated manner..the fact of the matter is that government will retain ownership...is'nt that nationlaisation. Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
Tasto
@ApelMankotsana - strue and Juju has spoken its just Gwede wants to steal the limelite expect the Communist to oppose Nationalistion as usual to score brown points!!
Just more places where the ANC can steal from
They just don't give up finding ways to STEAL more !!! Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
DisEnchanted
@BELO
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I agree with you 100% Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
why not get the existing ones functioning on self-sustaining level first before cretaing additional ones? or we just wanna create more "cookie jars" Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
Fred55
Forgive me if I am wrong but Alexcor (state mining co) is losing money. Post office just had 24 million stolen from it because IT security systems were not secure, Escom is a disaster and so is transnet.
Now the ANC wants to open more state owned companies when they can't organise a p1ss up in a brewery! Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
@Fred55: spot on.
They seem to be obsessed with the phrase "state owned enterprise" which has only led to "state destroyed enterprises".
Political school lesson 1: How to bankrupt a state legally. Report Abuse
Juju had spoken.. nw they r tryin to steal his ideas Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
Papage
Go in peace Juju, your cries are heard, you were fired for the right reasons, now they are implementing what you preached, come to my Church and Preach the word of God, Maybe ANC will convert from their sinful behavier. Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
ndhandhazi
Malema was just a loose agent. ANC has been talikng about the possibility of implementing Freedom charter. Malema quickly saw an opportunity to own the idea. SACP and Cosatu has been ideologically pushing for that long before Juju. Go ahead ANC start mining. This a product of ANC's research done by professionals. be good guys ANC is not an individual. Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
ndhandhazi
ANC policies are not debated by one person or one dictator. While ANC policy conference agreed in 2010- Durban that a research will be done, Juju should have waited for the report. Instead of waiting for the report Malema became a loose Canon and started misfirering. When a loose-Canon misfires there are casualities for the soldiers. This time the Canon back fired. It is a debate guys and it is the wright time because ANC has released draft policies. Inteligent people waited for this time to debate. Here we goOOOO!!!!!. Report Abuse
Mar 2, 2012
thembag0206
Despite inequalities i see more corruption, Report Abuse
Seem to rememper R30 billion dissapeared from the Land Bank in one year. Report Abuse
Mar 3, 2012
OrangeConcentrate
do not criticize nationalised industry, do not forget that GoldmanSachs supported the invasion of Libya because of the BANK, the private interests are the cause of the western failures, with high risk "instruments" , well, a pneumatic jackhammer is not suitable for watchmaking, likewise a sewing kit is not suitable for road-building.
APARTHEID was controlled by private interests(Oppenheim), NATIONALISATION is GOOD for the people, and there is not such a lack of workforce, they are merely caught up in the rat-race, chasing a new car and a new flat. lets not make the Afrikan Dream like the Amerikan Dream, with a BLACK MAN spending a years salary on a DIAMOND EARRING!!!
these western corporate interests have money, they control the supply chain, from source(upstream) to the jewlery shops(downstream),
these foreign interests are subverting the ZA PEOPLE!! Report Abuse
Mar 3, 2012
OrangeConcentrate
@TooClip
are you referring to the financial fraud witch involved South African Lady Tina Green?
you meanie LandsBankim? Report Abuse
Mar 3, 2012
OrangeConcentrate
Someone needs to shoot de beers Oppenheimer and push him off BEIT BRIDGE! Report Abuse
Mar 3, 2012
MasheleJ
@ Belo,DisEnchanted,Blackstone.lebs and Fred55 You're all correct!
@ Tasto, Patra, JD Majona and Papage. Have you not yet learned that your beloved Julian has satisfactorily demonstrated, over the past six years, to South Africans as well as the international community that he sorely lacks the intelligence and skills to hold any public office and that he make no effort to learn from those who would guide him.
He has now worked hard to place himself in the same category as those other motor-mouths - Eugene Terreblanche, Fidel Castro and Adolf Hitler and has succeeded. An empty pot makes the most noise!
Learn that an ability to speechify for hours on end is not indicative of a democratic leader's leadership ability or of his/her understanding of complex issues and any professional analysis of current so-called economic theories of the ANCYL will confirm this. Please wake yourselves up!
@OrangeConcentrate
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Considering the FACT that the ANC is struggling to make other state run enterprises work. How do you think they will do with a few more.
Or is it a case or just creating more ways to steal from the people.
From you OrangeConcentrate coz your one of the people
i don't see anything wrong with the government setting up it's own businesses, as long as it competes with other businesses within the same rules it's not nationalization, it's merely state enterprise, i would prefer if they focus more on new types of businesses though, something that can be exported so we can get money from outside coming in, like the manufacturing of solar panels for example, or something cuttiing edge like that. Or even food production, 7 billion people on the planat and growing strongly food is gonna become an issue in our lifetime, especially if the oil runs out... Report Abuse
Mar 4, 2012
letslisten
Very optimistic people!. Talk of bloated egos!. The govt is not capable of managing the government departments how in h.ell will they manage industries that require skills?. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
Sgandy
Laughable..how can they try more state owed enterpriseswhilst the ones they have already are a complete mess..and as for the Post Bank..I should think anyone sensible will be bit weary to start investing in a bank who just got robbed over 40million through laxed IT security..where is the risk assessment here. Report Abuse
Mar 5, 2012
PleaseGetReal
Fred55
Forgive me if I am wrong but Alexcor (state mining co) is losing money. Post office just had 24 million stolen from it because IT security systems were not secure, Escom is a disaster and so is transnet.
Now the ANC wants to open more state owned companies when they can't organise a p1ss up in a brewery!
======================================================
The sad part is that they don't have any shame, they just want to steal from the people and bankrupt more entities. More people who is going to sit without salaries and more people on state handouts for which the middle class and poor have to pay.
Unfortunately there is to many blind sheep who sees this as a positive, they have no business sense and does not understand where their salaries are coming from, they think it is magically transferred every month and the company they are working for do not need to show profits to be able to do this. Report Abuse
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ApelMankotsana
Talking of nationalisation in a diplomatic and sugar-coated manner..the fact of the matter is that government will retain ownership...is'nt that nationlaisation.Report Abuse
Tasto
@ApelMankotsana - strue and Juju has spoken its just Gwede wants to steal the limelite expect the Communist to oppose Nationalistion as usual to score brown points!!Report Abuse
BELO
Just more places where the ANC can steal fromThey just don't give up finding ways to STEAL more !!!
Report Abuse
DisEnchanted
@BELO****************************
I agree with you 100%
Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
why not get the existing ones functioning on self-sustaining level first before cretaing additional ones? or we just wanna create more "cookie jars"Report Abuse
Fred55
Forgive me if I am wrong but Alexcor (state mining co) is losing money. Post office just had 24 million stolen from it because IT security systems were not secure, Escom is a disaster and so is transnet.Now the ANC wants to open more state owned companies when they can't organise a p1ss up in a brewery!
Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
@Fred55: spot on.They seem to be obsessed with the phrase "state owned enterprise" which has only led to "state destroyed enterprises".
Political school lesson 1: How to bankrupt a state legally.
Report Abuse
Patra
Shining on Juju's shine. naf saidReport Abuse
JDMajona
Juju had spoken.. nw they r tryin to steal his ideasReport Abuse
Papage
Go in peace Juju, your cries are heard, you were fired for the right reasons, now they are implementing what you preached, come to my Church and Preach the word of God, Maybe ANC will convert from their sinful behavier.Report Abuse
ndhandhazi
Malema was just a loose agent. ANC has been talikng about the possibility of implementing Freedom charter. Malema quickly saw an opportunity to own the idea. SACP and Cosatu has been ideologically pushing for that long before Juju. Go ahead ANC start mining. This a product of ANC's research done by professionals. be good guys ANC is not an individual.Report Abuse
ndhandhazi
ANC policies are not debated by one person or one dictator. While ANC policy conference agreed in 2010- Durban that a research will be done, Juju should have waited for the report. Instead of waiting for the report Malema became a loose Canon and started misfirering. When a loose-Canon misfires there are casualities for the soldiers. This time the Canon back fired. It is a debate guys and it is the wright time because ANC has released draft policies. Inteligent people waited for this time to debate. Here we goOOOO!!!!!.Report Abuse
thembag0206
Despite inequalities i see more corruption,Report Abuse
TooClip
State firms LootedSmall typo in the headline
Report Abuse
TooClip
Seem to rememper R30 billion dissapeared from the Land Bank in one year.Report Abuse
OrangeConcentrate
do not criticize nationalised industry, do not forget that GoldmanSachs supported the invasion of Libya because of the BANK, the private interests are the cause of the western failures, with high risk "instruments" , well, a pneumatic jackhammer is not suitable for watchmaking, likewise a sewing kit is not suitable for road-building.APARTHEID was controlled by private interests(Oppenheim), NATIONALISATION is GOOD for the people, and there is not such a lack of workforce, they are merely caught up in the rat-race, chasing a new car and a new flat. lets not make the Afrikan Dream like the Amerikan Dream, with a BLACK MAN spending a years salary on a DIAMOND EARRING!!!
these western corporate interests have money, they control the supply chain, from source(upstream) to the jewlery shops(downstream),
these foreign interests are subverting the ZA PEOPLE!!
Report Abuse
OrangeConcentrate
@TooClipare you referring to the financial fraud witch involved South African Lady Tina Green?
you meanie LandsBankim?
Report Abuse
OrangeConcentrate
Someone needs to shoot de beers Oppenheimer and push him off BEIT BRIDGE!Report Abuse
MasheleJ
@ Belo,DisEnchanted,Blackstone.lebs and Fred55 You're all correct!@ Tasto, Patra, JD Majona and Papage. Have you not yet learned that your beloved Julian has satisfactorily demonstrated, over the past six years, to South Africans as well as the international community that he sorely lacks the intelligence and skills to hold any public office and that he make no effort to learn from those who would guide him.
He has now worked hard to place himself in the same category as those other motor-mouths - Eugene Terreblanche, Fidel Castro and Adolf Hitler and has succeeded. An empty pot makes the most noise!
Learn that an ability to speechify for hours on end is not indicative of a democratic leader's leadership ability or of his/her understanding of complex issues and any professional analysis of current so-called economic theories of the ANCYL will confirm this. Please wake yourselves up!
Report Abuse
DisEnchanted
@OrangeConcentrate********************************
Considering the FACT that the ANC is struggling to make other state run enterprises work. How do you think they will do with a few more.
Or is it a case or just creating more ways to steal from the people.
From you OrangeConcentrate coz your one of the people
Report Abuse
Quasar
i don't see anything wrong with the government setting up it's own businesses, as long as it competes with other businesses within the same rules it's not nationalization, it's merely state enterprise, i would prefer if they focus more on new types of businesses though, something that can be exported so we can get money from outside coming in, like the manufacturing of solar panels for example, or something cuttiing edge like that. Or even food production, 7 billion people on the planat and growing strongly food is gonna become an issue in our lifetime, especially if the oil runs out...Report Abuse
letslisten
Very optimistic people!. Talk of bloated egos!. The govt is not capable of managing the government departments how in h.ell will they manage industries that require skills?.Report Abuse
Sgandy
Laughable..how can they try more state owed enterpriseswhilst the ones they have already are a complete mess..and as for the Post Bank..I should think anyone sensible will be bit weary to start investing in a bank who just got robbed over 40million through laxed IT security..where is the risk assessment here.Report Abuse
PleaseGetReal
Fred55Forgive me if I am wrong but Alexcor (state mining co) is losing money. Post office just had 24 million stolen from it because IT security systems were not secure, Escom is a disaster and so is transnet.
Now the ANC wants to open more state owned companies when they can't organise a p1ss up in a brewery!
======================================================
The sad part is that they don't have any shame, they just want to steal from the people and bankrupt more entities. More people who is going to sit without salaries and more people on state handouts for which the middle class and poor have to pay.
Unfortunately there is to many blind sheep who sees this as a positive, they have no business sense and does not understand where their salaries are coming from, they think it is magically transferred every month and the company they are working for do not need to show profits to be able to do this.
Report Abuse
Ruudboy
Is dis phase 1 of NationalisationReport Abuse
T.C.T
Ruudboyfeels lyk it and smell lyk it maybe we will see it cant keep a real party down
Report Abuse
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