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Shock of 'corrective rape' uncovered

Oct 25, 2011 | Edward Tsumele | 140 comments

NKEPILE Mabuse, CNN's Johannesburg correspondent, says her recent research into the lives of lesbians fighting for acceptance has left her in shock.

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Oct 25, 2011

Mellow

I will never understand the term CORRECTIVE -RAPE...whats there to correct? what happened to people's rights/ how can a person invade another persons privacy and then claim to be correcting? why are some men sooo cruel? so what if women decided to date other women? who's ish is it? how do you justify rape? aarghhhhhh am frustrated by the rate of women abuse in SA i feel like screaming it just doesnt make sense anymore
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Oct 25, 2011

LehipilaMAFTOWN

This "corrective rape" thing is very disturbing and barbaric and u'll get these animals feeling proud of what they have donem, it's totally sick i don't support in any way I mean how does sum1 b'ng gay or lesbian affect our lives.
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Oct 25, 2011

dinks

And people preach to us about 'Ubuntu' and a tradition of deep caring - WHAT A MONSTROUS LIE.

African society has lost any moral ground and has handed over the day to day running of the country to a mob of hyenas whilst 'society' piously proclaims its moral values.

Sick society........
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Oct 25, 2011

Mpjayalenyora

Before 1994 i didnt know any lesbians, but that may be just my ignorance. To each their own I say! Our consxtitution protect lesbians and gays but our police dont, sad really! Has anyone met a gay shagaan guy? just curious....
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Oct 25, 2011

Mpjayalenyora

LMFAO!!!
@sowetan apparently it is vulgar to ask whether there are v.e.n.d.a gay guys according to your comments bouncer Hehehehe i can understand why that would be vulgar hehehehe haai !!!!...
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Oct 25, 2011

RobinH

The appalling tradition-entrenched chauvinism of South African society as is reflected in the issue Ms Mabuse is tackling just shows how superficial our grasp of the concept of liberation really is. We are still very far from the end of the real liberation struggle.
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Oct 25, 2011

IcePop

Rape is rape and wrong, rapists must be locked up.
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Oct 25, 2011

RedRhino

Sometimes Lesbians cross the line,
I was so offended when one blatantly told me that she can take my girl since I was not married 2 her.....

Since DAT day, I hv my own reservations coz wen U try 2 accommodate, they’ll start taking advantage!!!

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Oct 25, 2011

sabza007

Victims of this so called corrective are raped and killed in a most visious, brutal and dehuman way. Eugene Khoza (Banyana Banyana player) was killed in a brutal behind Kwa-Thema Hostel. In April this year, another lesbian who was coming out from the pub at night was killed in a way that shocked the world, in a same township.Gang Raped, stabbed, a beer bottle shoved in her vagina and her skull was crushed with a huge rock.

This story angered me because the nearest house where this lady was killed is 20 metres away.Why didn't they call the police,? blow a whistle and so forth, because this lady screamed for help but people just looked through their windows.

Lets protect each other against any form of abuse......It can happen to wife, daughter or some one close to you one day.
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Oct 25, 2011

Nwanawamukalaha

These people live in fear in a society where, despite the recognition of their sexuality by the Constitution, they still get harassed, attacked and raped.
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The constitution will never control people, it is ungodly for a person to sleep with another one of the same gender, period.

Old beliefs, in Christianity and Muslim do not give a thmbs up to this, that's why in Zimbabwe and Uganda it's not allowed.
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Oct 25, 2011

Keafixa

as much as i don't condone this corrective rape thing.....i still don't understand how people become lesbians and gays....plus nowadays it seems like is the in thing.
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Oct 25, 2011

phekulazikhuni

rape is rape is rape. we must not be sidetracked here. scores of straight women are raped daily, much more than lesbians. we have a problem of people violating our women's dignity. finish and klaar.
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Oct 25, 2011

WEREWOLF

just to say some on what Mpjayalenyora was asking if you have seen a gay shagaan guy, it doesn't matter the tribe the country that can be, it can be in anybody's genes, one out of ten men is gay or bisexual
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Oct 25, 2011

LaVidaLoca

Rape is Rape, pepetrators should be punished the same......and to those who think they can cure lesbians are idiots....
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Oct 25, 2011

PheliMarabi

CNN ,BBC
whenever they talk about Africa they talk about war,famine,aids ,rape.
AG SIES MAN.
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Oct 25, 2011

RobinH

And why is it "ungodly", Nwanawamukalaha? Are you suggesting that in assaulting or killing these people, their assailants are doing the work of God? One sick God you have.
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Oct 25, 2011

Getto-General

People who rape must have thier small cowerd 45 cut off ! that way we know they will never harm anybody ever again. This thing of rape makes me sick cuase is not only happenig to lesbeins alone even small children are raped, we are living in a sick society and if nothing is done soon things will get out of hand. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
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Oct 25, 2011

Mellow

@Nwanawamu... Ungodly and who died and made you God to come and emphasis that, everyone has a right to choose how they want to lead their lives you not God so you cannot come here and try to justify this horrible act, so because its ungodly is it fine that they are raped? Do you think those who are claiming to correct the victims are sent by God? scary
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Oct 25, 2011

PereYaPoho

Ba beteng, ke di phoofolo ntho tseo (Dinyalasi le de tarasi), mosima.
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Oct 25, 2011

Maths2

Although i believe in natural way in which a human being's gender has been allocated by the creator i dont support any form of abuse to rectify the choice made by a fellow human being. U cannot attach any sweet sounding words to the word rape to nullify da barbaric act which is so insulting to society n more to women.
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Oct 25, 2011

MommaC

Nwanawamukalaha

.... and rape is godly ?!?!?!?!?
What kind of perverted god do you bow down to?
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Oct 25, 2011

MORNACHIES

Nwanawamukalaha
These people live in fear in a society where, despite the recognition of their sexuality by the Constitution, they still get harassed, attacked and raped.
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The constitution will never control people, it is ungodly for a person to sleep with another one of the same gender, period.

Old beliefs, in Christianity and Muslim do not give a thmbs up to this, that's why in Zimbabwe and Uganda it's not allowed.
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Well said di bra and i do it's high time we locate them sumwhere (maybe Orania).

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Oct 25, 2011

RobinH

Mornachies: There's a psychiatric hospital near you. Pop in for a check-up.
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Oct 25, 2011

Dre747

Ja they must be killed and be burried to honour God. Serious how can lesbians think that the don't deserve to sleep with a man , dindt God say a man and a woman must sleep together and make the young ones? And these gays and lesbians think otherwise, who are they to oppose what God wants?
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Oct 25, 2011

Mellow

@Dre747 good question is WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO PLAY GOD?
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Oct 25, 2011

HUSTLER

I don't condone any kind of rape, its wrong and barbaric. Has anyone saw two male dogs or female dogs or whatever living animal for that matter bonking each other, just being curious. Help me.
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Oct 25, 2011

MommaC

Dre747

Your god named Lucifer by any chance?
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Oct 25, 2011

dinks

Dreck007

You are perverted - much like you interpretation of 'what God wants'

Pretty sick in the head - no morality - no comprehension - in fact just another sexual-orientation NAZI
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Oct 25, 2011

PereYaPoho

They must be mutilated.
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Oct 25, 2011

Mpjayalenyora

@gays & lesbians: the only problem I have with your lifestyle/orientation is that it is biologically unsustainable and by implication and fact, cannot be natural. Let me explain (for the benefit of the timid on this blog). It is not possible for gay men to procreate, and it is not possible for lesbians to procreate. A gay man and a lesbian woman can make a baby but it is not guaranteed that the baby will be gay. So, this gay and lesbian community is dependant on the heterosexual (that means straight) population for their orientation/lifestyle to exist and sustain itself. I think being gay is a lifestyle choice rather than a natural condition. So as long as one/I accept the lifestyle choices of others, i dont have a problem with you...just dont come @ me wit it!!!
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Oct 25, 2011

MommaC

Mpjayalenyora,

No honey, its not a choice. Nobody would chose to be so badly treated. Its just naturally who they are.

With the 7 billionth child due to be born within a week, we should not be so quick to encourage excessive and indiscriminate breeding. Mother Nature can only support so many souls.
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Oct 25, 2011

dinks

What did Mbeki rant?
"We are not sexual beasts..."

Little did he know!
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Oct 25, 2011

Mpjayalenyora

@MommaC
Let me put this simply. If gays were on an island and lesbians on another. The population of those islands would be zero (0) in time. I think you should be able to wrap that around your mind.
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Oct 25, 2011

MommaC

Mpjayalenyora,

.... and if us heterosexuals were not popping out babies at a rapid rate, Mother Nature wouldn't be under so much stress.

7 billionth baby - wrap your head around that figure!
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Oct 25, 2011

MORNACHIES

RobinH
Mornachies: There's a psychiatric hospital near me. i will pop in for a check-up.
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You should have gone long tym ago ,before you realise that you are turning
into shit .....
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Oct 25, 2011

HUSTLER

@Mpjayalenyora
@gays & lesbians: the only problem I have with your lifestyle/orientation is that it is biologically unsustainable and by implication and fact, cannot be natural. Let me explain (for the benefit of the timid on this blog). It is not possible for gay men to procreate, and it is not possible for lesbians to procreate. A gay man and a lesbian woman can make a baby but it is not guaranteed that the baby will be gay. So, this gay and lesbian community is dependant on the heterosexual (that means straight) population for their orientation/lifestyle to exist and sustain itself. I think being gay is a lifestyle choice rather than a natural condition. So as long as one/I accept the lifestyle choices of others, i dont have a problem with you...just dont come @ me wit it!!!
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Mpjayalenyora
@MommaC
Let me put this simply. If gays were on an island and lesbians on another. The population of those islands would be zero (0) in time. I think you should be able to wrap that around your mind.
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@Mpjayalenyora

Amen brother / sista, fully agree with you. Its a lifestyle choice period.


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Oct 25, 2011

Mpjayalenyora

@MommaC your argument about the 7 billionth child is neither here nor there as it can be countered by the mortality rate among children and adults. Also new technologies can and will improve food production, better health care etc. The issue i was highlighting is that homosexuality by itself is not self-sustaining and I believe most thinking people should not have a problem understanding that logic. I fail to understand why mother nature would create humans with a sexual orientation that, if left alone, would lead to the demise of that community.
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Oct 25, 2011

MommaC

Mpjayalenyora

You mis hear me.
That is 7 billion people on this earth AT THE SAME TIME.
We currently have more people walking the earth than have ever died.
I was asking you to think about the idea that maybe Mother Nature made these people as they are because She is tired of trying to sustain so many.

I'm in the food industry. Take my word for it, this rate of increase is not sustainable.
Even with the Japs inventing poo steak, we just can't keep plundering the earth's surface indefinately
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Oct 25, 2011

Mpjayalenyora

@MommaC I hear you fine. Are you insinuating (big word for most bloggers) that gays and lesbians are a result of mother nature trying to limit population explosion???eish i dont know if gay people will be happy with that. A glitch in the matrix of sorts!lol! *Joking* BTW I get your point abt population control.
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Oct 25, 2011

MommaC

Mpjayalenyora,

:) could be

I have no clue what Mother Nature thinks or why She does things. It just saddens me when I hear of any sister going through such horrors as 'corrective rape'. Its heart breaking
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Oct 25, 2011

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

Since most male bloggers, think corrective rape is good for lesbians....... Dont you think what is good for the goose should also be good for the gander?????

Are you expecting us (straight women) to rape gay guys or you will do it?????
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Oct 25, 2011

PereYaPoho

Gay body parts makes a strong muthi.
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Oct 25, 2011

RobinH

Oh very sophisticated and articulate, Morningachies..... And as for PereYaPoho.... Very useful.... NOT!

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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

"are abused and harassed in South Africa's townships" that is all they know, corrective rape and mass rapes and they want to think of themselves special and deserving respect?
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

Thanks NKepile for well researched document, hopefully the chauvinists like zenoyise of Sowetan can educate themselves instead of wasting time writing about size of the women's waistlines, as if they deserve anything better when they (men like him) put nothing into the relationship, nxa
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Oct 25, 2011

Papage

Don't rape them, correct them, phycological help is what they need or else let them go stay in Sodoma & Gomora
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@Papage
Don't rape them, correct them, phycological help is what they need or else let them go stay in Sodoma & Gomora
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correct them from what?
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Oct 25, 2011

Papage

@ somaartakeit, man can make love to another man
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Oct 25, 2011

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@Papage
Don't rape them, correct them, phycological help is what they need or else let them go stay in Sodoma & Gomora
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I hope you have not procreated or have no intention of doing same........ karma is a biatch. I was going to ask if you have any female relatives but alas your mom is woman *what was I thinking*

Rape is something you cannot wish on any one irrespective of their sex*ual orientation.........


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Oct 25, 2011

Ann

WTF! IS CORRECTIVE RAPE?? NXAH!!
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@Papage
@ somaartakeit, man can make love to another man - have you got no sex life of your own that you preoccupy yourself with others sex lives? get a sex life please.
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Oct 25, 2011

Papage

@ somaartakeit, you sound like them, you think this is Sodoma broer, if i meet you in Diepkloof you are dead, we dont want Sisboetie in Diepkloof
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Oct 25, 2011

Leutler

O NGWALA MASEPA FELA
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Oct 25, 2011

Punkies

Just an excuse for this monsters to rape. Let GOD judge them, what makes them think they can correct other people as if they are perfect. Sick society!
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Oct 25, 2011

Port-Elizabeth

It is really of no surprise that majority of the ignorant homophobes online are your typical low life ANCYL trash who would think raping is away of life.............they find any excuse to rape someone.

As for those ignorant black idiots who talk about god, lets not forget, that it was not too long ago when a white man had to tell you who god was.

Gay people do not chose to be gay, just like a deaf or blind person does not chose the hell they have been given, you think gay people like been gay???? They make the best of the sad life that they have. And as for people (blacks) who were suppose to be victims of oppression are really good at supporting oppression when it suites them.

I feel very sorry for the black homosexuals who have to go through hell that is provided by their so called fellow black brothers and sisters. WHAT A JOKE.
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Oct 25, 2011

Mellow

somaartakeit
@Papage
@ somaartakeit, man can make love to another man - have you got no sex life of your own that you preoccupy yourself with others sex lives? get a sex life please
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Good question my dear, their own pathetic sex lives depresses them to an extent that they start start obssessing about other ppl sex lives its sad
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

Papage
@ somaartakeit, you sound like them, you think this is Sodoma broer, if i meet you in Diepkloof you are dead, we dont want Sisboetie in Diepkloof
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I ONLY object to the fact that you are even willing to violate their human rights as stated in our constitution by wanting to correct rape/murder gays, do you not see anything wrong in your behaviour?

Secondly, I am naturally not a violent person, but I know how to defend myself effectively when called upon, so dont' for a moment think your threats scare me, and I am not a guy but I know how to deal with coward men like you adn I enjoy putting them in their place, so you can arrange to meet so I can save the nation and put you in your place too, I have said here before, I am not your average black girl pushover, cause I've long realised that SAn men can only push women around, cause they have low self esteem abt themselves which is projected by their abusing women children and the weak, so mna ndiyayimela into yam and uzonya literally.
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Oct 25, 2011

ShadesOfGrey

To say that being gay is unnatural is simply wrong - homosexuality is found throughout nature.

To say that being gay is wrong because one cannot procreate from it is also incorrect, otherwise being married to an infertile person would be similarly wrong. It is very narrow to think that procreation is end all of existence and the only reason we are alive.

To say that being gay is ethically wrong is incorrect - just consider the question of who is being hurt by a consensual gay relationship.

Now think about what liberty means. It means being free to make your own decisions without interference as long as those are not hurtful to another. It doesn't mean that everyone has to do the same, just that you are free to do it yourself. It is the very cornerstone of freedom, and just like no one should be forced into being gay, in exactly that same way no one should be forced into being straight.

Hence from a viewpoint of defending freedom, it is the duty of all who believe in liberty to stand against up against homophobes and expose their bigotry for what it is.
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Oct 25, 2011

Papage

@ Port-Elizabeth just stay there, dont come to Gauteng, sleep with your man there and dont spread you fucking life all over, Black boys use to go to the mountains at young age and were taught how to behave as a man, did we have gays in the olden days? did they go to the mountains? I know of some of your guys who bonk other women, but claim to be gays, sis man, dont come with you kak story, go get fixed
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@Mellow, go njani ntombi:-) na ke sharp nje ndidinwa ngulo zenoyise wakhona with his pathetic articles at trying to put down women, as if men like him offer something of significance or value to SAn women, did you know that amongst other documentaries carried out by Nkepile and her CNN team, it showed that SAn women are more than likely be single parents? it was a discussion about education/leadership academy and that showed that SAn young are not as good/well performing compared to other black children in the continent, they state that causes are due to SAn children not having 'normal' support at home as most come from single parent homes with only their mothers who are breadwinners and having to work away/longer hours to support not only their children but extended families, now I ask why shoudl I give a damn what a SAn men think of me as a woman, when they are reknown world losers.
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Oct 25, 2011

Port-Elizabeth

Papage - and what exactly did you have in the olden days??? NOTHING
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Oct 25, 2011

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@Papage
@ Port-Elizabeth just stay there, dont come to Gauteng, sleep with your man there and dont spread you fucking life all over, Black boys use to go to the mountains at young age and were taught how to behave as a man, did we have gays in the olden days? did they go to the mountains? I know of some of your guys who bonk other women, but claim to be gays, sis man, dont come with you kak story, go get fixed
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Your insunuations that homosexuality is 'western/white" is chicken's teeth......... matanyola is a Sotho name for sodomy?????? If there were "no gay activities" in the Black community then why have a word describing an act that does not exist.............

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somaartakeit

@papage how do you know htat you are not gay? if you were in prison cause most men (ex convicts) in SA have had at one stage a gay sex liaison in their lives. Maybe you are a closet gay, have you considered a possibility to seek counselling, its okay now to live openly as a gay person, you know?
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Oct 25, 2011

Papage

@MsKinkkyakakamasutra, what a name are you lesbian too? what a waste of beautiful gift from God, do you use fingers to do it as well? Sis. There is no name in sesotho that suggest such barbaric act or do you know of any olden goldies gays in your community? Ask one of the old people in your community to explain to you what Matanyola is. Do it right girl, get it from a man, big stick and you will feel refreshed and stop been grampy like Port-Elizabeth
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

RAPE THEM ALL,.....STUPID ATTENTION SEEKERS!!!! NXA!!!!
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@phathaphatha
RAPE THEM ALL,.....STUPID ATTENTION SEEKERS!!!! NXA!!!!
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how many have you personally raped so far? and what are the age range of them victims?
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Oct 25, 2011

Mokwepa

@phathaphatha
go to ....
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

Wow! I now understand why some girls become Lesbians! A lot of these men have no respect for woman! Even those on this forum. No wonder so many girls want nothing to do with men. A woman is not your property to rape or own! What is wrong with you people. Lesbian or not. Rape and violence is never the answer. And gays are protected by our constitution, or do you want to go back to the dark days of apartheid!!
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

rape all them madafakkaz until they come back to their senses and stop this madness
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Oct 25, 2011

Port-Elizabeth

Papage -> who cares about your old days, they did no justice for you, you could even defend your land from invaders and you want to talk about the old days, how pathetic
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Oct 25, 2011

Port-Elizabeth

cound not* typo error for previous comment
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

@BokiBoki this has nothing to do with apartheid....rape all of them until they start behaving like true ladies, then give them the respect they deserve
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Oct 25, 2011

Papage

@ phathaphatha, they need a horse pipe and they will never go back there
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

phathaphatha
rape all them madafakkaz until they come back to their senses and stop this madness
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You are the mad one that needs to be stopped. When last did you have a look at the laws of our country? Do you have any respect for our legislation and our democrasy? Even saying the things you are saying constitutes a crime, and I am quite eager to report you not only to the Sowetan but to the SAPS!
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Oct 25, 2011

Port-Elizabeth

Funny how the ANCYL does not bring up issues like corrective rape but they too busy wanting to grab a farm from a white man they will never be able to maintain.
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@Bokiboki, this is the thing, these sorry excuses of men, can only show how strong they are by ambushing and overpowering women and children and sexually abusing them, I often wonder why I never read about corrective rape in Zimbabwe or any other country, what is wrong with men here in SA, why is SA ranked number one in the world for rape? men down here seem to ONLY excell in the world on all things wrong, whilst others in the continent are worlds best athlets inspite of the fact that they have little to no resources, so really its not poverty that we are producing these vile creatures, its the values and culture.
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Oct 25, 2011

Sakaza

My Teacher once sad to me everything heppens for reason you might not know the reseon but God does. One may agure that this gay and lasbian thinng is a part of human history, religion and civilization. Becaucuse we don't know for the fact that lasbian and gays did not exist in those asciant times. These gays and lasbian's fait is in Gods hands only time will tell.

I SHALL NOT JUDGE
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BokiBoki

Port-Elizabeth
Funny how the ANCYL does not bring up issues like corrective rape but they too busy wanting to grab a farm from a white man they will never be able to maintain.
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Port-Elizabeth - Why bring up the ANCYL in this? I have not ever heard the ANCYL condoning rape of anyone? Our fight is with the ignorant men in african societies who think that they can own and rape a woman. They dont want to give a woman the right to free choice. It is nothing to do with ANCYL.
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BokiBoki

Sakaza
My Teacher once sad to me everything heppens for reason you might not know the reseon but God does. One may agure that this gay and lasbian thinng is a part of human history, religion and civilization. Becaucuse we don't know for the fact that lasbian and gays did not exist in those asciant times. These gays and lasbian's fait is in Gods hands only time will tell.

I SHALL NOT JUDGE
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I agree not to judge Sakaza! But if you look in history there were many gays. From the Greek empire to Alexander the great to some tribes in Africa. One can not judge, though and as somaar says, what the hell is wrong with us south african men to think that they are entitled to rape woman, no matter what! Sick on our society!
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somaartakeit

@Sakaza there is no question whether homosexuality existed or not during ancient times, even bible makes comment to their existance, the only diffs btwn now and then is that communiites are more open (non descriminative) against them, to a certain degree even some of the churches are now becoming aware and more open to homosexuals.
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Oct 25, 2011

SKIZOBANTWANA

But for real now, GAYS AND LESBIANS ARE STARTING TO BE UNCONTROLLABLE'' Whether its fashion or what.. i really don't understand


Lots and lots of them off-lately''
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

mxim BokiBoki, get a life man........
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Oct 25, 2011

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@Papage
@MsKinkkyakakamasutra, what a name are you lesbian too? what a waste of beautiful gift from God, do you use fingers to do it as well? Sis. There is no name in sesotho that suggest such barbaric act or do you know of any olden goldies gays in your community? Ask one of the old people in your community to explain to you what Matanyola is. Do it right girl, get it from a man, big stick and you will feel refreshed and stop been grampy like Port-Elizabe
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Oops I burst your bubble, I am as stratigh as a ruler.

We dont need bigots like you. From your drivel ranting I can tell you are still hiding in the closet and you are so green with envy for guys who have embraced their sexuality.......
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

SKIZOBANTWAN
But for real now, GAYS AND LESBIANS ARE STARTING TO BE UNCONTROLLABLE'' Whether its fashion or what.. i really don't understand


Lots and lots of them off-lately''

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Where they become uncontrolable? I only know two gay people from work, and they are very scared to even tell most people they are gay. I rather think they love in fear than to be uncontrolable! Even if they are, why rape and injure someone else?
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@skizo they prolly going about enjoying their basic human rights guaranteed in our constitution, and why do you want them 'controlled' they shld be controlled from what? be a man and your own sex life in order that way you will not be threatened by gay/lesbian sexual liaison as you will be too busy improving your own sex life than worry about gays and lesbians,
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

wena Boki you are behaving exactly like these lesbians who think we are force to like them, if we don't we're labelled, they can go to hell
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Oct 25, 2011

Oblongata

It amazes me how stupid people can really be. This is so not on, these men are cruel and evil. I cannot stand idiots. To me idiots are people who choose to be ignorant, lack of control,ill-mannered, selfish, short supply of self respect or lack thereof. What gives them the right?
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

phathaphatha
mxim BokiBoki, get a life man........
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Why do you not make an effort to answer my questions to you? Does it mean that if you dont have an answer you insult people?
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

phathaphatha
wena Boki you are behaving exactly like these lesbians who think we are force to like them, if we don't we're labelled, they can go to hell
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wena phatapata.. Catch a wake up! No one says you have to like lesbians. I respect if you don't but how can you justify violence and rape against anyone? That is unconstitutional and against the law.
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Oct 25, 2011

Mellow

Sis some men are so stupid Phathaphata and papage you disgusting for sure
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@Phataphata no one forces you to like anyone incl lesbians, what is expected of you is to respect their constitutional rights, anything beyond this is illegal, do you understand?
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@Mellow don't be too shocked by the likes of phataphata afterall the oldest rape victim in SA hails from same province as phataphata even yesterday I was reading that from the EC a 60yr old woman has become latest rape stat, with men like phataphata around, what can one expect?
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Oct 25, 2011

TDK

Something is wrong with journalism. Suddenly when one starting working for CNN or BBC is a seasoned journo. K@K!
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

@Mellow you judge people's IQ by how much they kiss lesbian a$$?
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

@Somaartakeit - Real men dont rape! It is just monkeys and baboons that think it is ok to rape ! Eish I am shocked. I hope phataphata is removed from the streets!
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Oct 25, 2011

tswai-la-tweba

Mellow
Sis some men are so stupid Phathaphata and papage you disgusting for sure
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Hi judge!
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@TDk you are just pee'd cause Nkepile is threading on the unchattered waters, exposing violoence and abuse against women and children in Africa, compare to a lot of journo's this girl is a class act, U shld watch her and Ayisha Seshey I think her colleague is, on Inside Africa, that's the ONLY programm which makes tv sense to me, SABC in the meantime is airing repeat programmes and soapies so to keep the populace brain numbed, it is also CNN that first flighted the using of children for muti purposes in Ughanda and here one would have thought SABC being reasonably bigger broadcaster in SADC they will make citizens aware of this gross human rights violations, but now in a typicaly African style they sweep things under capert only be have CNN exposing the rot, which goes as far as gov ministers in Ughanda in persuit of power they resort to murdering children for muti, it is a such a shame black Africans can do this to their own children wiht such arrogance and impunity. And no one has a courage to stand up against this and condemn it.
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

removed for what Boki? for speaking my mind?
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Oct 25, 2011

Sakaza

It is our duty as human spicies to protect white is wrightly ours which is planet Earth and the univers and strust me there will be the time when all human race no matter gay, straght, biosexual, black, white or lasbiand have to stand together and protect or Planet against the bad (EVIL). As advance technology become, the bigger the evil.
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

sorry I forgot SABC are busy rehearsing death of Nelson Mandela, what a bunch of morons and we pay our tv licenses to this fools paradise.
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

phathaphatha
reoved for what Boki? for speaking my mind?

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For condoning rape.. wait until your sister or friend gets raped and then we talk again. It is the lowest form of humanity you can ever get. The one who speaks about rape as a good thing does not belong in society. No matter gay or straight or whateva!
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@BokiBoki, please understand where phataphata comes from, ie EC, the oldest rape victim in SA is over 100yrs old the latest rape victim also from the EC is 60yrs old, with men like phataphata around is it any wonder SA is ranked number one in the world on rape?
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Oct 25, 2011

Mellow

phathaphatha
@Mellow you judge people's IQ by how much they kiss lesbian a$$?
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You such an ignorant insensitive bustard sis i hope you get kidnapped and raped yes by straight men you disgusting dweep, you think because you have an IQ of a keyboard your smart neh learn to think before you uteer nonsense fck shit men like you deserves to go to hell you giving all other good men out there bad name you such a sick bustard bloody retard condoning rape shame on you
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

@ somaartakeit : Unfortunetly I know many men like Phataphata. Who thinks like that. Luckily our new generation of young men, with education can stand up and say we respect our woman, and rape is never the answer. I hope one day our wonderful country will have great and real men, who take care of our woman and protect them agains these evil phataphatas. rape is wrong finish and klar!
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

@ Mellow - Tell him! well done sister. Bloody moerskond they are!
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Oct 25, 2011

Firefly

LIVE & LET LIVE.
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Oct 25, 2011

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

BokiBoki
@Somaartakeit - Real men dont rape! It is just monkeys and baboons that think it is ok to rape ! Eish I am shocked. I hope phataphata is removed from the streets!
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Dont offend monkeys and baboons by likening them to these barbarians....... lol

They are beasts and evil personified....... animals dont rape their young and females species
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
BokiBoki
@Somaartakeit - Real men dont rape! It is just monkeys and baboons that think it is ok to rape ! Eish I am shocked. I hope phataphata is removed from the streets!
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Dont offend monkeys and baboons by likening them to these barbarians....... lol

They are beasts and evil personified....... animals dont rape their young and females specie
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ahmen sister! the monkeys and baboons at least are pure of heart compared to these creatures! cant even call them animals!
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Oct 25, 2011

Mellow

@somaartakeit girl we must get rid of trash like phathaphata his kind is polluting planet earth bloody sickos, where can we find that gang of women who goes around apparently raping men damn i so wish this dirty stupid thing can fall into their trap then he would know how it feels
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Oct 25, 2011

Papage

@ Mellow, o kare ba ka go thola, ba go fake ya Pere to come nice.
@ BokiBoki you look gay nawe, sis o marama, oja Motete sis
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@BokiBoki, I dream of such a SA, but as things stand its really hopeless, the mere fact that we are debate rights of lesbians/gays paints a very dim picture, I know tehre are few SAn men like you who are fighting the bad image perpetuated by the patapatas, sometimes i think its a losing battle, in order for us to deal with the patapatas effectively, I think we need to give parents education/support on how to bring up these potential patapatas and prevent them from becomign fully blown patapatas, cause I think this behaviour has something to do with the upbringing, some of these boy had no proper male role models, they grew up feeling rejected, and as a result are angry and that anger is directed in the way they interact with women, the laws of the country also need to been seen to be protecting the victims, I read with horror and disgust yesterday that a rapist has been given bail? even if he is a doctor, it is simply wrong that his status enables him a special treatment from the law, when he is just a common criminal. This also result in rape victims not reporting crime, can you imagine how high SAn rape stats if ALL victims had confidence in the justice system and report such? I despair at this gov for failing the women and children of this country.
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Oct 25, 2011

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@Mellow, IQ of a keyboard.......... classic my sister..........
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@Papage
@ Mellow, o kare ba ka go thola, ba go fake ya Pere to come nice.
@ BokiBoki you look gay nawe, sis o marama, oja Motete sis
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wena uyinja straight!!!!
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

mxim Mellow nothing any of you says will ever change the fact that gays and lesbians are just evil spirit in the face of earth
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

@ papage - you look very gay on avatar pic. Go find a man somewhere else. I am real man who cares about my wife and will protect her against you evil bastards. Not interested in you!
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

@ phathaphatha nothing any of you says will ever change the fact that RAPISTS are just evil spirit in the face of earth

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Oct 25, 2011

Theeletsang

Even animals arent doing that they orner and respect God's commands,really we can promote raping of this lesbians however we can pray for them to be freed from this demonic chains,its disgusting.........Adam and Eve period.
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

phathaphatha
mxim Mellow nothing any of you says will ever change the fact that gays and lesbians are just evil spirit in the face of earth
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the only thing evil here is you condoning rape, jeer I curse you the day you were born!!!!
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Oct 25, 2011

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

Papage
@ Mellow, o kare ba ka go thola, ba go fake ya Pere to come nice.
@ BokiBoki you look gay nawe, sis o marama, oja Motete sis
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Your wishful thinking will not come to pass but instead the evil will be meted out on your female relative and not Mellow.........


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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

@ Mellow send them horney b1tches here i assure you i'd fck them until the morning and give them my numbers in that way they won't have to go around raping mini men
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Oct 25, 2011

BlackLion

Rape is a universal issue and should be treated like that. We expect some tips on how women can spot rapists before they attack them; at least that is what you should spend money on, rather than writing the same articles for centuries. How do these articles help women?

Women must also admit to facts and stop trying to justify the way they dress and conduct themselves because they are not doing any justice to themselves. There are Men out there waiting to prey on you so please use precautionary measures too, don’t wait to be counted in. Exposing yourselves does not make you a better person.

It is the responsibility of every member of society to make sure they raise good citizens in their homes because that’s where it all starts.

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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

even animals don't fck butt
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

phathaphatha
@ Mellow send them horney b1tches here i assure you i'd fck them until the morning and give them my numbers in that way they won't have to go around raping mini men

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bhahahahah - Now we know you a lonely ugly little man who can not have a woman. Shame, sis mampara!
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Oct 25, 2011

Mellow

@Papage you're such an ignorant fool for a married man with kids sis pray none of them will ever have to go through this ordeal, grow up


@somaartakeit phathaphata and papage are evil and heartless shame on them
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

@ blacklion - I agree rape is a universal issue. But what sick primitive animal of a man goes and thinks he can rape woman, because they dress sexy? My wife dress sexy, and I like her for that. But if any animal comes close to looking at her in that way, I will protect her. It is not the womans fault it is the man who thinks he can own the woman. Sick what is happening with our society!!
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@BlackLion, dress code is not a determining factor of whether you will be rape victim or not, in sme cases ppl who are raped are old women, SA's oldest rape victim is over 100 yrs old, do you think she was wearing a mini skirt? the latest rape victim is 60yrs old, do you think she was wearign a mini skirt? and not mention that even babies are victims of rape, do you think they were sexy nappies?

Tips from to safe guard women from potential sex preditors have been written about published, but no one can be absolutely safe from rapists cuase its usually someone known to the family who rape the victim/s, as the act is in itself preditory, so the perp will try get potential victims to trust them, before they pounce, so really there is no 'keep safe' formula, but women can minimise risk, I say, eg avoiding being isolated places (day or night), not take a ride from a stranger, always be alert and aware of one's surroundings and of course a little bit of self defense learning will help a long a way, adn drinking at shebeen in this day and age should be a no no for both women and girls cause that's where most of these preditors lay in waiting to ambush the drunk sisters leaving the shebeen,
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Oct 25, 2011

phathaphatha

@but ladies think i'm cute....#real ladies not bloody ugly lesbians
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@BokiBoki
phathaphatha
@ Mellow send them horney b1tches here i assure you i'd fck them until the morning and give them my numbers in that way they won't have to go around raping mini men

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bhahahahah - Now we know you a lonely ugly little man who can not have a woman. Shame, sis mampara!
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neither does he any social skills, to approach and charm a woman/girl so she can voluntarily give herself to him, so therefore he needs to impose himself on them.
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

neither does he any social skills, to approach and charm a woman/girl so she can voluntarily give herself to him, so therefore he needs to impose himself on them.
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I fully agree with you somaartakeit. I real man won't have to impose himself on the woman to get sex. Sis. Phathapatha must be a ugly man to look at and a real creap.
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Oct 25, 2011

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@Mellow, somaartakeit and BokiBoki......... being "inadequate" has never been ayoba for retarded men.......... to show their "power" they have to take it by force and be demeaning

Adios mi amigo and amigas
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

I agree MsKinkyakaKamaSutra! Adios mi amiga!
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Oct 25, 2011

somaartakeit

@ms Kinky... as always you are right, but we must make the backward and retarded males realise that their attitudes and behaviour esp if it breaks laws and violates rights of others shall not be tolerated.

I am waiting for day when the ancyl will spearhead the march against violence agaisnt women and children and start making themselves useful instead of being a nuisance.
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Oct 25, 2011

BokiBoki

somaarktakeit says : I am waiting for day when the ancyl will spearhead the march against violence agaisnt women and children and start making themselves useful instead of being a nuisance.

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ahmen! i agree 100% . I know that young lions dont condone rape, so now they must stand up and march for it. It is one of the greatest problems in our society. Rape and violence against woman. All real men should stand up against this practise. It is tearing our communities apart.
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Oct 25, 2011

Wozanami

Papage sounds like a Zimbabwean. This is the drivel that Mugabe preaches, and Zanu, almost to a man, consider gays and lesbians to be less than animals. Go and read the Herald online.

Corrective rape of lesbians, and rape of children to cure aids is caused by lack of education and belief in superstitious practices. Until we can empower and educate the poor in this country, the problem won't go away.

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Oct 25, 2011

phekulazikhuni

kuyanyiwa la, i am not commenting, ngeke, niks...
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Oct 25, 2011

sgubhusenkwishi

Corrective rape is wrong and un acceptable. But we should as well look serously at the negative impact of this homosexuality practice. Socially it is not an acceptable practice as it doesnt fullfil what it takes for a society to expect, non procreative, nonreligious, has got many health negative implication, the mere practice of this kind of orientation uses organs which are directly linked to the spread of sexual infection,that you will never seen even amongst the animals, hence the wave of diseases we experience is even superceding the deseases seen among the animals.
The long effect is there is no hope of future human species through homosexuality considering the non productivity of this practice. It doesnt give a good example or value to human kind that promote our culture, plurality and family setting.
If these people are excluded or given ireland , no hope for its future as it fully dependent on heterosexuality, and more uncalled for political chaos might be expect as people will cry loud of segrigation, looking at it no one gives a full respect to this people due to the fact that its based on artificial chosen life style than being driven bypower of nature.
Economically they might suffer a biase economical distribution due to the fact that their not family based, neither regarded as future family guardians.
Yet they are the easy targets and victims of crimes and societal scape goats for rape with pretext of correction.
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Oct 25, 2011

supasupabaloyi

Phataphata wait until your son or daughter tells you they are gay it is the most heartbreaking moment for a parent, but your love for them is unconditional and you love them more when you realise what cruelty they have to put up with in the world..
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Oct 26, 2011

PaddyMurphy

She doesn't look shocked to me! in fact she looks quite content with her discovery. Now there's a shock!
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Oct 26, 2011

mphozaaa

Justice is needed aqui
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Feb 2, 2013

ash01

programs like isidingo promote corrective rape; so its hardly possible to end this struggle.
They portrayed a lesbian relationship, one of the girls got raped and shortly ended her lesbian relationship and is now currently with a male. So how do we fix this problem if award winning programs promote corrective rape?
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