it's about time yessus. a bu makepisi! this will reduce HIV infections and other STD's Report Abuse
Dec 7, 2010
Nelson
it is surprising, KZN has been circumsizing as long as i can remember, but then it has the highest HIV prevalence in the country. Circumcasion reduces the chances of geting AIDS. up to certain level im afraid there is contradiction. Report Abuse
Dec 7, 2010
Wu-Tang-Clan
Its been 11 eleven years now since I became a man I went to mountain when I was nineteen. But no hospital route to be considered as a men kwaXhosa Report Abuse
Dec 7, 2010
Nelson
@Wu-tang the point is not to be a man. how do you define a man? by just going to the mountain then you are a man? The fact is, it is advisable for one to be circumcized. Report Abuse
Dec 7, 2010
kwantu
I happen to have been part of that study. Circumcision does not prevent infection. It reduce chances by about 60%. If you circumcise and you get clumsy sexually you will contract the virus.
Remember when you are circumcised, the head of the penis develops some hard skin that may not easily tear during intercourse. Also after sex the head becomes exposed to weather elements in which most virus can not survive. Report Abuse
Dec 7, 2010
Aqua
@Nelson,point of correction,most people from KZN are not circumsized.I applaud who eva raised ths issue### Report Abuse
@Lekope, @purah, @Nanafierce... LMAO!!! Oh boy, I nearly fell off my chair. You guys are very funny you made my day!! Report Abuse
Dec 7, 2010
Pabi
why should boys wait to be men then decide to circumsise, i think is better to do it while they are still young, my two sons they went for circumsession while they were 10yrs old but done by the professionals (doctors) i don't believe going to the mountains. why can't we adopt indians style to cut them immediately after birth. Report Abuse
Dec 7, 2010
Kuch
Shoo!!! It about damn time,I mean as a Venda gal,I'd run if I ever come accross the "broom"....
It doesn't matter that you went to the mount or the Hosp,the fact is to get that nusty skin off. Report Abuse
Dec 7, 2010
Hugh7
It is highly doubtful whether circumcision will have any effect on the epidemic. In at least six African countries more of the circumcised men have HIV than the non-circumcised. This has to be explained before proceeding with a potentially disastrous campaign.
A study in Uganda started to find that circumcised men are a greater risk to women than intact men, but it was cut short before the effect of resuming sex too early could be eliminated. Instead the researchers blame the victims and ignore this risk. Women are already more at risk of HIV infection than men, so something that only protects men (if it does) is a bad idea.
And in Swaziland there are reports of young men thinking it's safe to have "skoon" sex because they are circumcised. Can anyone be surprised? Report Abuse
Dec 8, 2010
juliarix
Living with HIV/AIDS is not so terrible if we know how to control it.. Maybe you can check more HIV/AIDS blogs and inspirational stories at pozmingle.com. The STD counselor on the site will give you some advise about how to control it. Report Abuse
Dec 8, 2010
Joseph4GI
I'm afraid that Africans are being fooled. Circumcision does not, cannot prevent AIDS. There is not a single doctor, researcher, or "study" that can refute this fact. Circumcision FAILS. Circumcision FAILS so much that advocates cannot stress the use of condoms enough. If "studies" are correct (and they are methodologically flawed), then circumcision "reduces HIV transmission by 60%," and only in MEN; the women are still exposed to HIV+ semen. Condoms reduce this risk by over 95% in BOTH sexes, and are worlds cheaper. I'm afraid that African men are undergoing needless surgery, and millions are being wasted on a dubious "solution" that FAILS. Providing a dubious alternative to condoms is a disservice to the fight against HIV, and Africans are going to pay dearly for buying into it.
Not to mention that circumcising children who do not have sex and are at absolute zero risk for HIV transmission is a violation of basic human rights. It is also a travesty that millions are being wasted on a procedure that does not work, which could be better used in mother-to-child HIV prevention services.
Circumcision is FAILING in other African countries. In the following countries, HIV transmission was more prevalent among the CIRCUMCISED.
Cameroon (4.1% v 1.1%)
Ghana (1.6% v 1.4%)
Lesotho (22.8% v 15.2%)
Malawi (13.2% v 9.5%)
Rwanda (3.5% v 2.1%)
Swaziland (21.8% v 19.5%)
Source: measuredhs dot com
According to Malaysian AIDS Council vice-president Datuk Zaman Khan, more than 70% of the 87,710 HIV/AIDS sufferers in the country are Muslims (where all men are circumcised). In Malaysia, most, if not all Muslim men are circumcised, whereas circumcision is uncommon in the non-Muslim community. This means that HIV is spreading in the community where most men are circumcised at an even faster rate, than in the community where most men are intact.
I'm Afraid the king is not too bright. I'm afraid Africa is, yet again, being raped by the white man. Report Abuse
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Lekope
it's about time yessus. a bu makepisi! this will reduce HIV infections and other STD'sReport Abuse
Nelson
it is surprising, KZN has been circumsizing as long as i can remember, but then it has the highest HIV prevalence in the country. Circumcasion reduces the chances of geting AIDS. up to certain level im afraid there is contradiction.Report Abuse
Wu-Tang-Clan
Its been 11 eleven years now since I became a man I went to mountain when I was nineteen. But no hospital route to be considered as a men kwaXhosaReport Abuse
Nelson
@Wu-tang the point is not to be a man. how do you define a man? by just going to the mountain then you are a man? The fact is, it is advisable for one to be circumcized.
Report Abuse
kwantu
I happen to have been part of that study. Circumcision does not prevent infection. It reduce chances by about 60%. If you circumcise and you get clumsy sexually you will contract the virus.Remember when you are circumcised, the head of the penis develops some hard skin that may not easily tear during intercourse. Also after sex the head becomes exposed to weather elements in which most virus can not survive.
Report Abuse
Aqua
@Nelson,point of correction,most people from KZN are not circumsized.I applaud who eva raised ths issue###Report Abuse
purah
Sika lojwabo...tltltltlt!!!Report Abuse
Nanafierce
Hambani niyoluka makwedini...Report Abuse
ChaNoM
@Lekope, @purah, @Nanafierce... LMAO!!! Oh boy, I nearly fell off my chair. You guys are very funny you made my day!!Report Abuse
Pabi
why should boys wait to be men then decide to circumsise, i think is better to do it while they are still young, my two sons they went for circumsession while they were 10yrs old but done by the professionals (doctors) i don't believe going to the mountains. why can't we adopt indians style to cut them immediately after birth.Report Abuse
Kuch
Shoo!!! It about damn time,I mean as a Venda gal,I'd run if I ever come accross the "broom"....It doesn't matter that you went to the mount or the Hosp,the fact is to get that nusty skin off.
Report Abuse
Hugh7
It is highly doubtful whether circumcision will have any effect on the epidemic. In at least six African countries more of the circumcised men have HIV than the non-circumcised. This has to be explained before proceeding with a potentially disastrous campaign.A study in Uganda started to find that circumcised men are a greater risk to women than intact men, but it was cut short before the effect of resuming sex too early could be eliminated. Instead the researchers blame the victims and ignore this risk. Women are already more at risk of HIV infection than men, so something that only protects men (if it does) is a bad idea.
And in Swaziland there are reports of young men thinking it's safe to have "skoon" sex because they are circumcised. Can anyone be surprised?
Report Abuse
juliarix
Living with HIV/AIDS is not so terrible if we know how to control it.. Maybe you can check more HIV/AIDS blogs and inspirational stories at pozmingle.com. The STD counselor on the site will give you some advise about how to control it.Report Abuse
Joseph4GI
I'm afraid that Africans are being fooled. Circumcision does not, cannot prevent AIDS. There is not a single doctor, researcher, or "study" that can refute this fact. Circumcision FAILS. Circumcision FAILS so much that advocates cannot stress the use of condoms enough. If "studies" are correct (and they are methodologically flawed), then circumcision "reduces HIV transmission by 60%," and only in MEN; the women are still exposed to HIV+ semen. Condoms reduce this risk by over 95% in BOTH sexes, and are worlds cheaper. I'm afraid that African men are undergoing needless surgery, and millions are being wasted on a dubious "solution" that FAILS. Providing a dubious alternative to condoms is a disservice to the fight against HIV, and Africans are going to pay dearly for buying into it.Not to mention that circumcising children who do not have sex and are at absolute zero risk for HIV transmission is a violation of basic human rights. It is also a travesty that millions are being wasted on a procedure that does not work, which could be better used in mother-to-child HIV prevention services.
Circumcision is FAILING in other African countries. In the following countries, HIV transmission was more prevalent among the CIRCUMCISED.
Cameroon (4.1% v 1.1%)
Ghana (1.6% v 1.4%)
Lesotho (22.8% v 15.2%)
Malawi (13.2% v 9.5%)
Rwanda (3.5% v 2.1%)
Swaziland (21.8% v 19.5%)
Source: measuredhs dot com
According to Malaysian AIDS Council vice-president Datuk Zaman Khan, more than 70% of the 87,710 HIV/AIDS sufferers in the country are Muslims (where all men are circumcised). In Malaysia, most, if not all Muslim men are circumcised, whereas circumcision is uncommon in the non-Muslim community. This means that HIV is spreading in the community where most men are circumcised at an even faster rate, than in the community where most men are intact.
I'm Afraid the king is not too bright. I'm afraid Africa is, yet again, being raped by the white man.
Report Abuse
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