Phathuza

Welcome back Mbeki The most intelligent leader africa has ever produced
Report Abuse

Thinawise

ALL the corrupt leaders ANC has can't even come close to u Mr Mbeki
Report Abuse

Phathuza

Zuma is scared to be compared with this man because he has achieved absolutely nothing compared to Mbeki , He will go down in history books as the worse president ever. Mbeki is a man with morals , You cant hear or read about Mbeki having extra marital affairs , Corruption , Misuse of tax payers , If Zuma is given a second term then we are for suprise
Report Abuse

Punkies

I'm really concern with our the current state of our beloved country. I hope our leaders will find it in their hearts to put the interests of ordinary people like into consideration when making decisions. I hope Mbeki will make a difference, i liked him dearly except for his HIV saga..i think he was a good president.
Report Abuse

Papage

Was Mbeki corrupt as well? I dont remember any scandals of him stealing R203 millions to build a house in Eastern Cape or did he?
Report Abuse

Tasto_

@Ediotor\Webteam - Wow u are unbelievable sometimes this is a typical of cut&paste without knowing the meaning neh? Given your actions on Friday afta instruction from Nkandla

Is this realy from u Editor?

"The freedom of expression for which Mbeki and his comrades, including President Jacob Zuma, fought and which is enshrined in the constitution applies to all"

Sowetan trampled on our "freedom of expression" on Friday!!

Report Abuse

s.cold

BACK OFF---------MTHABO'S---------------
Report Abuse

T.C.T

let's get it ready to rumble those who are illitrate oneside those who are educated that side,,,talking is what made him known and special...enough is enough ZOOMA is finished come MANGAUNG and his p.uppets can intimidate KGALEMA as much as they want but victory is certain we will soldier on.
Report Abuse

cornelius

Mbeki's biggest mistake, after the AIDS denialism, was not to nurture and " anoint" a leader to replace him. Instead he sought a third term for himself - he always seemed to believe only he can do the job - he should have created the conditions for Mothlanthe or Ramaphosa to succeed him.
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

All Zuma knows is to build a island in Nkandla and a palace within a poor society. Zuma is a serious disgrace to South Africa and the whole world.

I wish Mbeki had made a early return if not a u-turn.
Report Abuse

Msydodo

ya, the most intelingent leader Africa has ever produced, wellcome leader


Report Abuse

Chichi7

This educated man has the right advisers. Well done Mbeki and welcome back. Now can someone please fire the JZ adviser!!
Report Abuse

Fanle

Corruption has always been there even during his era(10 years). I do not like people who criticize without offering solutions. His criticism is welcome but he should have come up with a solution to the problem
Report Abuse

RobinHH

What a pity this man who is not only extremely intelligent but also a pragmatic thinker was so nastily removed from the political landscape. Our country is the poorer for it.
Report Abuse

Msydodo

if I was Mbeki I should have not went to exile, I should have stayed in NEC as requested, he should be haveing powers now in supportin Mothlathe and unsetting this Zuma, all zulus are heartless, from Shaka - Zwelithin- Zuma,
Report Abuse

P4T

Awaiting for Mac Maharaj or Jackson Mthembu to attack TM...

On the upside, lets hope the jittery investors' confidence will return slowly. TM is highly regarded everywhere else except inside the current ANC.
Report Abuse

Tasto_

@Msydodo - let us not go that level I don' like tribalism myself!!

Report Abuse

Tasto_

@Fanle
Corruption has always been there even during his era(10 years). I do not like people who criticize without offering solutions. His criticism is welcome but he should have come up with a solution to the problem

Thats why he asked his then deputy-president to concetrate on his criminal cases and turned on him like a snake faking death (playing victim&tribalism) that was his mistake to be soft to those close to anc becuase he loved anc more !!
Report Abuse

BabyNono87

They say Mbeki was corrupt, but i don't remember hearing of a scandal that he took R203 millions to better his home town!! What a disgrace, how does he (Zuma) feels when he is amongst other State's Men!!!!
Report Abuse

RobinHH

BabyNono: JZ simply couldn't care less.
Report Abuse

Mbeki_2

Mbeki was giving showerhead and NEC a long rope to hang themselves for what they did to him. Well, he proved to them that he was the 'smart' president. It was his 'dronk' health minister that told him all that rubbish about beetroot warawara. Welcome back.
Report Abuse

Tasto_

Mbeki's biggest mistake ws to priotise anc above anybody\thing and be too patroitic (its alleged he took R30million armdeal bribe gave Zuma R2million which he did'nt ont deny up to this day and rest to the anc that turned against him).Politics indeed a dirty game !!
Report Abuse

Mpharane

In Sesotho there is a say:" Bokolla di hlabane". Mr. Thabo Mbeki you are one of those. Lesole le shwela ntweng. They say when you feel the heat get out of the kitchen, that is what you did. Like a leader you are praised for, you should have stood for the ANC that you fought under. But like a coward you decided to run away and hide. Today you see that thing are boiling in someone kitchen, you get out of your hibernation. You let other people fight battles for you. I respect Malema compared to you. Malema stood for what he believed in. Ke rolela JuJu kgaebane. Ha ntwa e hlasela o ipata tlasa pitikote tsa basadi.
Report Abuse

dr.mike

@msydodo

if I was Mbeki I should have not went to exile, I should have stayed in NEC as requested, he should be haveing powers now in supportin Mothlathe and unsetting this Zuma, all zulus are heartless, from Shaka - Zwelithin- Zuma

you dont even know the reason why mbeki was in exile coz he has bean there before you even born buddy
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

@Mpharane

I think Mbeki did well jumping off the sinking ship , he realised the Captain (Zuma) can't read a radar and map , as a result was about to hit ice beggs under neath .

A wise person jumps out to save his skin and soul. Well done Tbos and welcome back.
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

Papage - Mbeki and the armsdeal. Mbeki paid R30 million of his loot into Lithuli house bank account...

Still... he was a far better president than Zuma.
Report Abuse

Phathuza

In Sesotho there is a say:" Bokolla di hlabane". Mr. Thabo Mbeki you are one of those. Lesole le shwela ntweng. They say when you feel the heat get out of the kitchen, that is what you did. Like a leader you are praised for, you should have stood for the ANC that you fought under. But like a coward you decided to run away and hide. Today you see that thing are boiling in someone kitchen, you get out of your hibernation. You let other people fight battles for you. I respect Malema compared to you. Malema stood for what he believed in. Ke rolela JuJu kgaebane. Ha ntwa e hlasela o ipata tlasa pitikote tsa basadi.


Stupid comment nxa
Report Abuse

oldlady12

dr.mike eish, read the article again.
Report Abuse

Bhayizane

Welcome back, Mr President. You are not alone, there is huge number intelligent people who decided to keep quiet, but we cannot be silent forever whilst our country is burning.
Report Abuse

Cowgirl

@s.cold...Hi & kwakwakwakwka, hopefully you know what that means, time for you to go herd Msholozi's goats.

@Fanle...do you really believe that the environment would have been condusive for Mbeki to remain in the NEC with all those crass vultures, please bro!

@P4T....the SG(Gwede Mantashe) aka Zuma's lap dog wasted no time in playing the defense when the transcripts of the lecture were published...rambling like the lunatic he is.

@RobinHH....your answer is spot on to BabyNono, that dude doesn't give a fcuk...but with our electorate at ANC branches i wouldn't too cause he is guaranteed a return in Mangaung this Dec...

@Tasto...he did say that anyone who has proof of corruption against him should present it to our courts, no one is yet to submit such proof and so those allegations are baseless until proven otherwise...besides do you really think the current ANC mafia would sit on such info seeing that they are hell bent on destroying his LEGACY.

The current ANC cannot match Mbeki's leadership on his bad fcuken year....FACT!
Report Abuse

Tasto_

@!#Sinudeity#! - are u related to Sinudeity ? Damn Webteam !!

Report Abuse

Voetzek

This picture says it all, if we were led by this two leaders we should have been too far.oil and water doesnt mix remove Thabo in that picture and put shower head then you will see the pooooo
Report Abuse

SharpSharp

Welcome back ...Its long overdue...This JZ is driving us right into Red sea
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

@ Sin You Dirty (!#Sinudeity#!)

You are quiet correct , there's no one lapha ku Zuma ,lots of vacuum in his brain.
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

Tasto_ - Yeah, the symbols represent how many times Ive been banned.

! = 1
# = 10
Report Abuse

Tasto_

Ppl don't be too negative abt JZ/SA please asseblief !!
Report Abuse

lerato777777

I am an African, i owe my being to the Hills and the Valleys, the Mountains and the Rivers,the Deserts, the Trees, the Flowers the Seas and the ever-changing Seasons that face of our Native Land.............Welcome back African Child.
Report Abuse

Mgaraji

When Mandela cautioned Mbeki to stop playing with words but attend to AIDS pandemic. The honourable Mbeki said if Mandela wanted another term as president he should have stood for another terms but you choose to go on pension so enjoy your pension and shut up. The old man never utter a single from there on. Is Mbeki failing to practise what he preached to Mandela.


Report Abuse

Kekgethegile

@Tasto

What do you expect us to do there is nothing positive that he has done
Report Abuse

Gusheshe

S.cold

The most foolish zulu blogger on this blogg. there is no single day that he can make a meaningfull comment on anything.

now back to the article: SA never had a president and still doesnt have any after Mbeki was recalled #FACT#
Report Abuse

jnrb

To me Mbeki was better than Mandela. His business like approach and no- nonsense attitude was top notch. And he was a workaholic. Mbeki is a highly educated person (Masters degree in Economics London
University) who spent many years abroad in Western Europe. He obviously saw what worked and what didn’t. Jacob Zuma on the other hand only has standard 3 and knows how to tell people what they want to hear. That is why the whole country has got a Std 3 mentality.
Report Abuse

Kon-Tiki

The sad part was that Thabo Mbeki was wrongly advised by people who could have replaced him as presidents to stand for a third term as president of the ANC. We all make mistakes and I think like a gentleman he took the defeat right on the chin and did not throw any toys out of the cot. Most of us agree that he made a far better president than JG Zuma. For some of us ANC sympathizers JG Zuma has been an embarrassment. Zuma's stupidity has nothing whatsoever to do with his lack of formalized education. It was refreshing to read something about the man in a long while.
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

Zuma's children cost us more than what CEO's get. So
he must shut his mouth and go back to Std 2 or 3 atleast he will use ipad now not slate .
Report Abuse

Cowgirl

@Gusheshe

Go easy on s.cold, with a little bit of help he will get there...ooohhh, mara hy is DOM and so it might take a while....LOL!
Report Abuse

Gedleyihlekiza

Lo mfana lo Thabo Mbeki u ya ndelela!
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

Then there is another intellectual that gets little comment. Moeletsi Mbeki, who was never shy to criticize even his own brother.
Report Abuse

Zabaragast

Welcome back Thibos, if that's what's happening. I stopped believing what editorials print a long long time ago.
Report Abuse

Phathuza

lerato777777
I am an African, i owe my being to the Hills and the Valleys, the Mountains and the Rivers,the Deserts, the Trees, the Flowers the Seas and the ever-changing Seasons that face of our Native Land.............Welcome back African Child.
33333333333333

Zuma stole this speech , What a speech from this inteligent man. Zuma is only good in dancing maskandi songs + Traditional weddings + ukuchatha = Good tax marshal 100% Zulu boy
Report Abuse

Cowgirl

@jnrb....I conquer with you sir/madam!
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

A luxury car, driven by businessman Khulubuse Zuma’s bodyguard, was hijacked outside a KFC in Umbilo last week.

They should have abducted and sent him to Monglia.
Report Abuse

Tasto_

@jnrb
To me Mbeki was better than Mandela. His business like approach and no- nonsense attitude was top notch. And he was a workaholic. Mbeki is a highly educated person (Masters degree in Economics London
University) who spent many years abroad in Western Europe. He obviously saw what worked and what didn’t. Jacob Zuma on the other hand only has standard 3 and knows how to tell people what they want to hear. That is why the whole country has got a Std 3 mentality.

No anc sent him to study economic as a cadre delevered on his mandate up to Masters level.He was trained as a soldier too !! Funny same anc didn't sent him to study communism system or ANC is not a Communist party inded amd never pretended except the Staffriders on anc train wearing mant hats Yellow communist driving 7-series holding shares in Platinum mines @expense of poor communities)!!
Report Abuse

bon-79-21

Look who is critisising who. This is a man who hated critisisms with a passion, this is a man who hated the mention of the name Melson Mandela during his reign with all his heart, this is a man who would label those criticising him. This is a man who did not like to be compared to Nelson Mandela because of his arrogance. The every same people who were tired of this man's aloofness are today his praise singers (Bloody Hypocrites) because of thier deep seated hatred of JZ. Its under JZ where people like you all have the freedom to critisise the President without fear or favour. All you doomsayers would not dare critisise Mbeki lest you risk being labeled names like "counterrevolutioneries". So stop your hypocritical view Mbeki and your new found "Imbongis"and show leadership that you failed to show wherever you are. By the way what is he doing nowadays again ??
Report Abuse

Tasto_

@bon-79-21 - unfounded rumuour and lies !!

Report Abuse

Gusheshe

@Cowgirl

Im sorry abt dat but i fail to understand the mentalility of this dude S.cold. Where are Zuma s @arse lickers today on this blogg? because they could have attacked Thibos here right, left and centre.
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

I also hate Blade Nzimande , he has no brains thats why Tbos never wanter him.
Report Abuse

Ramatlhale1

Mbeki my President!!!

For as long as we have leaders who are of the notion that all that glitters is by default entitled to them just because of the position/office they hold in politics, then we might as well forget about living in a fair, equal opportunity, economically well-balanced and nkandla & Juju free SA.

Gone are the days of smear campaigns and sabotage plots...where people actually had to apply their intellectual, cunning & survival abilities to keep politics interesting.....nowadays you hand a comrade a gun to shoot themselves in the foot and as expected they never dissapoint afterwards other comrades will hand the bleeding comrade a first-aid kit & even help him wrap a bandage in full view of the public......Then you'll be expected to still support the very limping comrade who clearly will shoot the other foot, hand, hell even their behinds (but for some reason they keep missing the head) should the opportunity present itself then you tell me such people are defined as leaders.....my leaders???...my 5 year old has more sense.!!!

Granted there was darkness before light but in our case I believe our light is slowly fading & it's not even a question of who will bring that long awaited everlasting, bright-burning candle but a question of when & will he/she ever have the opportunity to light it!!!

I TRULY HOPE FOR OUR COUNTRY & FUTURE'S SAKE IT'S SOON!!!
Report Abuse

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

He had been focusing on international matters, including resolving the conflict in Sudan.
====================
How much does that direct benefirt us "conflict in Sudan"?


Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

bon-79-21 - "Its under JZ where people like you all have the freedom to critisise the President without fear or favour."

Like the dude who was arrested, had his house ransacked and held in an unknown location for days, because he flipped JZ the middle finger?
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - Actually, Dubya Bush is the person to credit for the resolution in Sudan, believe it or not.
Report Abuse

SharpSharp

bon-79-21

Agaa shame you sound like an empty tin...but u r entitled to your opinion...The truth is the opposite of every thing u said...Ask bo Ru Khoza, bo Sipho Seete, bo Juju the list is endless...


I am not sure if ppl are ignorant of the fact or what JZ is taking ANC right into red sea...We need to wake up and smell the coffee..
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

ANYONE WHO WILL TELL ME ZUMA DESERVES A 2ND TERM ,ILL TELL YOU YOU NEED JESUS IN YOUR LIFE. To hell with this Zuma thing.
Report Abuse

swona

I am worried about Mbeki's silence, for he still has energy to challenge the gorvernment unlike Madiba, I like Chisano, he is not mute! lets hope in few days he'll tell us who he supports as ANC president, for his opinion might carry a lot of weight, just like the Clintons in America, to Mbeki, your time to take a back seat when the country is heading towards no direction is over, you need to stand and put weight to Motlanthe sooner than late!
Report Abuse

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@!#Sinudeity#!

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - Actually, Dubya Bush is the person to credit for the resolution in Sudan, believe it or not.
=========
Social department wants to cut our children's grant here some people are busy sorting other countries' conficts,instead of cutting the grant they better increase it to R1500 per month.

Report Abuse

Cowgirl

@bon-79-21... you starting your ramblings with "This is the man who...blalblabla" does not make them facts...now go herd msholozi's goats and finish off that construction project done with my money cause i can assure you someone like you cannot be a tax payer....no one would hire you with that thinking capacit or lackof.

@Gusheshe...todays topic is too higher grade for those JZ a$$ lickers....their brain functions at a level of a two year old, they come tomorrow guns blazing on a s.e.x article.

@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe....i"ll have you know, a conflict free continent means prosperity for South Africa and less brother's and sister's fromthe rest of the continent which most of you hate with a passion...but then again that is too higher grade to comprehend, don't worry though cause i'll give you more time to simmer on it.

Report Abuse

Tibub

Mbeki the intellect
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

@sharpSharp

You are correct these dicckheads must wake up and smell the coffee while its hot.

DA will soon close in ....
Report Abuse

somaartakeit

and in anycase its partly Mbeki's fault that Zuma is a morally corrupt president, why did he chose him as VP when he had no qualifications nor credible leadership skills? And why didn't he say anything against him being elected as country president whilst reekign with corruption charges from the arms deal? Myabe Mbeki (and I am saying this in the nicest possible of ways) you better go back to wherever you were when you handed over our country to the anc crooks to rape it!!!!!
Report Abuse

sweetlady1st

Usaphila uMbheki?
ow well welcome bck I guess.
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - Instead of going overseas, our politicians should instead spend that time with the peeps on the ground. They have lost touch with what South Africa is really like outside of their high walls and highrises. Of course they would say, South Africa isnt as bad as people make it out to be. They are living like aristocrats.
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

somaartakeit - I think the inaction was taken when Zuma threatened that he was 'smallfry', and that he would take alot of people down with him.

Funny how the 'smallfry' corruption errupts into massive corruption if left unchecked.
Report Abuse

bon-79-21

Tasto-
Do me a favour and depict unfounded rumour and lies in my posting.
There are many bad things & bad decisions that TM make & took, but in the same breath there are a couple of good things that we did. I'm sick of people depicting JZ as total failer when there are certain good things things that he has done. For example, for the first time in the history of this country, we have a National Development Plan. Instead of the media getting us as citizen to engage on this plan, they totally ignor it and bombard us with Malema & ANC Youth League. All the critical issues that are raised by everyone on a daily basis are contained in the Plan. From eduction, to health, to crime and so forth, why are we not using this Plan as basis for finding long lasting solutions to this crisis.
Let me tell you, all you doomsayers, for as long as we are still having a constitution that has clause like "Property Clause" in its current from, no President, I dont care whether he has a degree from some university in london or not, will get SA in the right course. Instead of exposing your backgrounds in terms of insulting adults, debate and engage on the National Development Plan.
Report Abuse

Cowgirl

@somaartakeit

I can see you are not familiar with ANC processes, cause if you were then i do not think you would be solely putting the blame on Mbeki for Zuma's ascendence to power. In case you didn't know which i can assume from your post YOU DON'T, leaders are elected at branch level in the ANC and not by the president....*sigh*
Report Abuse

Tlakenyobehle!

Gedleyihlekiza
Lo mfana lo Thabo Mbeki u ya ndelela
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

ha ha ha ha u took the name vele lebitso lebe ke seromo mchana
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

bon-79-21 - So what? We have a national development plan. We've had MANY plans in the past.

We can comment again once those plans have actually been translated into actions.
Report Abuse

KennyS

bon-79-21 you should be ashamed!

Report Abuse

Cowgirl

@bon-79-21

It's all good and well to have the National Development Plan...but it means fokkol when there is no IMPLEMENTATION, when that ish under Zuma's administration is good on paper, it means jack ish if it is not implemented becuase they are busy putting out fire after fire because of your president's incompetence.

Hope that helps!
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

@ bon-79-21

I feel so sad for your children cos they will /are subjected to your intellectual evapouration .
Report Abuse

snazz

Mr Mbeki help us
Report Abuse

MommaC

bon-79-21

are you seriously trying to say that property should not be privately owned? Have you the slightest idea of the ramifications of that?
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

"Politicians threaten to make Parliament canteen ungovernable after pay freeze"

http://www.hayibo.com/politicians-threaten-to-make-parliament-canteen-ungovernable-after-pay-freeze/
Report Abuse

asaowe

i dnt trust that Mothlanthe, he'll bringbak Malema ohhh mi god all we will be doomed Zimbabwe here we come, i gues country need sum1 decisive, put country 1st, rebuild economy, fight rampath corruption country will prosper.
Report Abuse

Ramatlhale1

@somaartakeit- Let's not forget Mbeki was put to the cross when trying to shall we say "correct" his errors, I think that's when he realised exactly the kind of direction the country was taking hence his noble departure rightly followed by the self-imposed exile.....

......And people may say Malema is a better fighter than Mbeki but let's not forget that there are people who have the unquestionable ability to start wars but it takes a lot of strategy, planning and impeccable timing to actually win & finish one....the only dillema here is as South Africans which one of these character traits do we value most??


Report Abuse

Gusheshe

Has any1 seen CNN news yesterday? The people of Beruit(Lebannon) were protesting against their government and they wanted their prime Minister to step down. I wish we can do that here in Mzantsi for Zuma to step down before we go to Mangaung bt still he can order SANDF to kill the protesters even if they are not violent.
Report Abuse

SharpSharp

Mthondowethusi

It will be embarrasing to us and Africa as a whole for SA to be lead by white dominated party... after just 18yrs...but i am quite sure that if JZ became the head of both the ANC and GOVNMT DA will take over in the next elections after 2014...

Actually we must make a deal with JZ if he wins that he must no longer marry any more...Becos this affect us and it contradict with the ANC and GVNMT policies
Report Abuse

Mthondowethusi

@ KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

You posted :
Social department wants to cut our children's grant here some people are busy sorting other countries' conficts,instead of cutting the grant they better increase it to R1500 per month.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Wena and bon-79-21 seem to be coming under one roof and inherited st>dity.

Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

SharpSharp - JZ has 21 kids now right? He is building a total of 25 houses on Nkandla. I recon he still has more wives and more kids on the way :P
Report Abuse

slowfootsurefoot

did he say the rot started during his reign like malema said he made a mistake by backing zuma?couple of blunderers.
Report Abuse

KennyS

Zuma is TOTAL failure and anyone who does not see is a failure right behind him. As a nation we cannot risk protecting an individual at the expense of our future. Our currernt state of affairs does not look good. To even prove Zuma has achieved NOTHING during his tenure, he is quick to "claim" 18years of what the ANC has done instead of mentioning what he has done. I dont blame him because he has nothing to show. We admit he won over Thabo but its time to get back to business, there is no more conspiracy against him, we are no longer in Polokwane. What we need is a sound leaders to lead us. No offense.
Report Abuse

bon-79-21

Cowgirl..........you are exactly like your father TM by being personal on your response instead of engaging decently and on the issues I've raised. All of us know how aloof TM was, all of us know how much TM hated to be critisised. Unless during his Presidency you were also doing some degree in some university in London or somewhere, that is exposed by your response. Your brains functions at a level of insults and nothing more. A good student of Julius Malema & Fikile Mbalula. You are a good learner, I'm you are a favourate of your "BOSSES" at your work place because of your good demeaner in learning. Go on and insult me again, further expose your "HIGH LEVEL OF EDUCATION"....bring them on.....thats what you are good at !!!
Report Abuse

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@Cowgirl

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe....i"ll have you know, a conflict free continent means prosperity for South Africa and less brother's and sister's fromthe rest of the continent which most of you hate with a passion...but then again that is too higher grade to comprehend, don't worry though cause i'll give you more time to simmer on it.
==========
Cowgirl how many time did people interven in Palestine conflicts,are they not still happeng even today.I dont think we've to waste time on the stuff that wont direct benefit us and if they do it'll be 100+ years?
The world's peace defeated Maria's son Jesus and the bible too says;

To make it your ambition to lead a quiet life you should mind your own business and work with your hands just as we told you so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so that you will not be dependent on anybody.
That's 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12.




Report Abuse

SharpSharp

!#Sinudeity#!
He only started marrying his wives immediatly aftre being the ANC Dep Pres...then you ask yourself why after ANC Dep Pres...So lets give him a chance to have time with those 21 kids and wives..and let us run the country
Report Abuse

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@Mthondowethusi
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

You posted :
Social department wants to cut our children's grant here some people are busy sorting other countries' conficts,instead of cutting the grant they better increase it to R1500 per month.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Wena and bon-79-21 seem to be coming under one roof and inherited st>dity.
==========
Who's that baba (bon-79-21)?


Report Abuse

Gedleyihlekiza

Tlakenyobehle!
Gedleyihlekiza
Lo mfana lo Thabo Mbeki u ya ndelela
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

ha ha ha ha u took the name vele lebitso lebe ke seromo mchana
`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
Hle please Tlakenyobe hle! My girl! You know what to do when you need a cabinet post, You get my spear, I give you the post, this for that!
Report Abuse

Cowgirl

@bon-79-21

I'll have you know that i happen to assit in keeping this economy afloat while you and your kind are so adamant on sending us into a NO GO ZONE for investors...but then again you do not understand the bigger picture, don't worry i expect no less a Zuma supporter who does not get the dire consequences of a Zuma led government for another another term. Let me share with you something though....see this spiteful attitude of returning Zuma for a second term will not affect most of us who are not dependent on a government or a salary as we have our eggs in comfortable nests...it will affect you at the end of the day, go ahead though.

Good day to you Sir!
Report Abuse

KennyS

bon-79-21 _ Truthfully in this current situation of a blind leader who has nothing constructive to say rather than make jokes and dance I prefer an aloof leader. Donald Trump is aloof. Alan Knott Craig of Cell C is aloof at least they get the JOB DONE. We cant risk our country falling because an aloof, smart, working man was president compared to a clueless laughing monkeys dancing at everyone visiting thema t the zoo. Dude please. Its time we got serious and got back to business and focus on the future of our country, our future children and grand children
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@SharpSharp

Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma was the second wife which he married 20 years back you id!ot!!!!!
Report Abuse

!#Sinudeity#!

SharpSharp - When you hit 60, thats the time when the kids should be moving out of the house already. Its not the time to be making more kids.
Report Abuse

Gusheshe

bon-79-21
Cowgirl..........you are exactly like your father TM by being personal on your response instead of engaging decently and on the issues I've raised. All of us know how aloof TM was, all of us know how much TM hated to be critisised.
------------------------
All of us? exclude me on that list of people who knew that TM didnt like to be critisized. You dont seem to agree that TM is way better than JZ do you?
Report Abuse

sting

@Mpharane
In Sesotho there is a say:" Bokolla di hlabane". Mr. Thabo Mbeki you are one of those. Lesole le shwela ntweng. They say when you feel the heat get out of the kitchen, that is what you did. Like a leader you are praised for, you should have stood for the ANC that you fought under. But like a coward you decided to run away and hide. Today you see that thing are boiling in someone kitchen, you get out of your hibernation. You let other people fight battles for you. I respect Malema compared to you. Malema stood for what he believed in. Ke rolela JuJu kgaebane. Ha ntwa e hlasela o ipata tlasa pitikote tsa basadi.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You are talking rubbish just like your leader Malema.

Report Abuse

Winilen

Blacks what wrong with you... Yes most of black are illiterate, but as you aducated black ppl what are you doing to help... instead you laugh at those without education that why now we fighting like this. stupid blacks.
Mugabe is well educated but his country is a mess, what we need is a good leader with a vision. I dont see Mothlate doing us any good because he is working with Zuma right now as his deputy, what is he going to do differently accept bringing back Malema.
Mbeki welcome back maybe we do need your experience in the country at this time.
Report Abuse

s.cold

Gusheshe
S.cold

The most foolish zulu blogger on this blogg. there is no single day that he can make a meaningfull comment on anything.

now back to the article: SA never had a president and still doesnt have any after Mbeki was recalled #FACT#
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tsek wena mbobo
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ Winilen

Fu(k you and your white roties!!!!!
Report Abuse

Seja-Bana

politics politics politics...........................you know people are amaizing, recently we were calling for zuma to lead the nation, now ths zuma is milking us building a 203 million nkandla palace, we are crying. the government under mbeki was way better the current one which is under the shower man. petrol is going up like crazy. e-tolls are causing a scare to us. marikana massacre. remember this is the government under zuma. all he says is we are planning to create more than 500 000 jobs by the end of the year. and again he want to go for second term. to hel will him.
Report Abuse

SharpSharp

Mporoz

Is she married to JZ stupid...MXM..

!#Sinudeity#!

Thats true, this JZ is creating his own world in Nkandla imagine 30 kids and many wives in one private Nkandlaville ...

Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ Gusheshe (Nsimbi yamahumusha)

Traiter!!!!!
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ SharpSharp

The point is he started practicing polygamy before he became VP of the ANC @$$ wipe!!!!!
Report Abuse

KennyS

Mr Mbeki we welcome you back Sir, We never appreciated you as our President but today after your departure we have realised the value you added to our country. We miss your intellect, We miss your leadership and your decisiveness. Sir, we deeply apologise for the disrespectful conduct shown to you in Polokwane. Trhough all of that you were dignified and accepted iinsults of defeat with grace. You are a true leader. Today I stand in shame of our decision, today we hold our jaws in embarrassment of our choice over Zuma. The world look at us like fools that we are. Mr Mbeki Sir, we need you. We are in a total mess. We need your inputs, Africa needs you Sir, We welcome you back!!!
Report Abuse

Gusheshe

Say no to JZ s second term.
Report Abuse

Cowgirl

@KennyS

Couldn't have said it better myself...enough said!
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ KennyS

Stop saying We and talk for yourself, the man has just said in his "lecture" that he doesnt know what to do to help and you mindless chick you want him on the playground!!!!!!!! What are you?
Report Abuse

bon-79-21

Gusheshe...........neither was TM better than Mandela. I'm bemoaning the question of comparing. Look at JZ on merits lens, not through your lenses of hatred. Our President has his own errors, so are the pas Presidents, and so is everyone else. We should not be clouded by hatred in our analysis of the current administration. I'll be the one to admit that JZ is not a great leader, but then how many great leaders ahve the world produced since the days of the Marting Lurher Jnrs of this world. This administartion of JZ is doing all it can under trying times. Unlike the TM administration which had the world financial situation favoring it at the time, but how many jobs did they creat? What legacy has that Admni leave behind?????
Report Abuse

Gusheshe

@Mporoz

Am i a traitor?
Report Abuse

SharpSharp

Mporoz

The question is why did nt he marry every year before he become DP pres... dont be fooooled by what you see there is more behind this...You will know one day...
Report Abuse

Mgaraji

TM you are driven by bitterness for the revenge. We know you tactics baba.
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ Gusheshe

A big one,

@ SharpSharp

You are reading too much in blanks my friend!!!!!!!
Report Abuse

Ramatlhale1

@Winilen
Blacks what wrong with you... Yes most of black are illiterate, but as you aducated black ppl what are you doing to help... instead you laugh at those without education that why now we fighting like this. stupid blacks
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Some of us take serious offence to such statements, do not isolate such accusations a single race group but rather direct it at the generally priviledged community...(Black & White) just because you see me dancing on tv it doesnt mean I am pulling my own strings!!!

There is so much corruption with people in power worldwide, that whenever competent, intelligent individuals try to take their rightful places in leadership, the nincompoops who got the power positions by favour are always threatened by this that they will do everything in their power to make sure such individuals never even make it to the gates of a mere municipality building!!
Report Abuse

s.cold

Gusheshe
------------------------------------------------
gusheshe la ma simba
Report Abuse

Tasto_

@bon-79-21 - I wonder if you know this "National Development Plan" for your information most countires around the world do have some form of National Development Plan.But in south Africa its talking abt de-racialising the economy and demography sound like social engeneering like Hitler 3rd Reich regime.

We were&are insulated from recession because of the ecomomic policies adopted during TMbeki tenure e,g NCR act!!

JZ does evn know rhe meaning of minietrial handbook, it took him more than 8 moths after taking office as president of SA to declare his business interest done for him by his Apartheid Lawyer Huley the same lawyer of WouterBasson and probably Clive Derby-Lewis and other rightwingers!!


Report Abuse

bon-79-21

Mgaraji....you are spot on. You must brace yourself for insults. I hope you are as strong as JZ to absorb them.
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ s.cold

LMAO, wangbulala Skhulu!!!! #Qi, gilikidi ukuhleka#
Report Abuse

Gusheshe

@Bon 79-21

Personaly i dont hate Zuma as a person cause i dont know him but i dont like him as the president of this country cause under his administration so many things have gone wrong and the country is now up in smoke because of his poor leadership skill. Under TM we never had this country wide violent protest and this sky rocketed corruption that is done publicly while the cultprits are connected to the press himself and nothing is done abt that
Report Abuse

TigerM

cant Mbeki make a come back in Mangaung, imagine be the black horse contest presidency of the party *day dreaming* well thats a loooooooong shot in the dark, this country will be a better place. Today we have BEE all because of this guys administration, before it was corrupted to be for the elite politically connected, but I guess this is our destiny A.F.R.I.C.A!!!!!!
Report Abuse

KennyS

Mporoz and Zuma knows best on what to do_Yes we want Mbeki back. Yes We believe he has more to offer than the current ANC leadership. Yes He has more to advise us on our current economy stand. Currently we are in a blink of losing intenational confidence and having Mbeki to support and give us advise will help us win back international standing. Yes we need Mbeki. Any normal thinking person will know it. He may say he doesnt know what to do and that is based on the current mess Zuma has created. This country is in a state of decay. People are losing jobs, small businesses have closed, Everything is going up, Companies are not making enough profits because people are not spending as much. Credit has literally shut down because everyone is on credit bureaux. On top of that out TAX is being misused. We need to ask TM to help us, Right now he is our only hope
Report Abuse

Mgaraji

bon-79-21
Mgaraji....you are spot on. You must brace yourself for insults. I hope you are as strong as JZ to absorb them.
________________________________
There is nothing academics miss from Mbeki except praising his speeches. Obama warned educated Africans about praising speeches.
Report Abuse

Gusheshe

@Mporoz

Ungazo nyanyiza yezwa? Idiot from Nkandla
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

Winilen
Blacks what wrong with you... Yes most of black are illiterate, but as you aducated black ppl what are you doing to help... instead you laugh at those without education that why now we fighting like this. stupid blacks.
Mugabe is well educated but his country is a mess, what we need is a good leader with a vision. I dont see Mothlate doing us any good because he is working with Zuma right now as his deputy, what is he going to do differently accept bringing back Malema.
Mbeki welcome back maybe we do need your experience in the country at this time.
------------------------------------------------------------
Dude, don't talk about uneducated if you can;t even complete your first sentence without mistakes, I think you are a troll.
Report Abuse

Tasto_

No Mbeki must not come back yet, JM said @Mangaung Zuma is gonna be defeated next day recalled( as sitting president to give him ample time to prepare for his corruption charges) and next day reinstate & charge him with arms deal !!
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

As long as zuma gets 2nd term, I am happy.
Report Abuse

lenyora13

Bathong Msholozi will get second term period.. ka nkane...

President Mbeki u r the reason we have President Zuma in office.. I am sure u still remember press conference ya Madona and ngcuka, ' Prima facie case' if u cud have proceeded with the case against him then, we could have different story.. So we r in this mess BABA..
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ KennyS

Get lost, stop bucking on the moving car!!!!!

Your TM is a greedy stupid old man, he deserves what he got in Polokwane. i hope to never hear from him again!!! Oh and you!
Report Abuse

Gusheshe

@SOLUTIONS

May i ask you why?
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

Gusheshe
@SOLUTIONS
May i ask you why?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Look at the division he is creating in the anc, it is what we want to get this corrupt cancer party to die.
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ Gusheshe (Nsimbi yamaSimba)

I'm from e-Folweni, @$$ wipe!!!
Report Abuse

Mgaraji

At the beginning of this year Mbeki delivered a speech in Kenya calling for african young people to rebel against their government. He was pushing for Malema to rebel against the ANC. The young man Malema is standing outside the door because of your speech Mbeki. I smell reveng reveng reveng.
Report Abuse

Mgaraji

SOLUTIONS
DA forget it. Sensible black people who still experience racism cannot vote for DA. Mbeki was never popular amongs the poor.
Report Abuse

Tasto_

@lenyora13
Bathong Msholozi will get second term period.. ka nkane...

President Mbeki u r the reason we have President Zuma in office.. I am sure u still remember press conference ya Madona and ngcuka, ' Prima facie case' if u cud have proceeded with the case against him then, we could have different story.. So we r in this mess BABA..

That was his downfall too loyal to anc shielding scoundrel from prosecution for political expidience.
Report Abuse

KennyS

@Mporoz
You dont intimidate me. You may have bullied your way in Polokwane like the hooligan that you are but you dont scare me BOET!
Report Abuse

Gusheshe

@SOLUTIONS

I got the picture. Should the Nkadla dude retain his seat come 2014 general elections anc will loose voters
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ SOLUTIONS

Devisions my foot, the greatest party of JL Dube is cleansing itself of the likes of Mbalula, Gusheshe, Malema and Mashatile, etc.
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

Gusheshe
@SOLUTIONS
I got the picture. Should the Nkadla dude retain his seat come 2014 general elections anc will loose voters
------------------------------------------------------
That is it, slowly but with definite evidence it is happening.
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

Mporoz
@ SOLUTIONS
Devisions my foot, the greatest party of JL Dube is cleansing itself of the likes of Mbalula, Gusheshe, Malema and Mashatile, etc.
----------------------------------------------------------
Ja, and this cleansing you talk about is since 2006, it just got worse and worse and worse and it will die.
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ KennyS

Please, get over yourself young lady.

@ Gusheshe

What are you, Inkatha?
Report Abuse

Tasto_

@Mporoz
@ SOLUTIONS

Devisions my foot, the greatest party of JL Dube is cleansing itself of the likes of Mbalula, Gusheshe, Malema and Mashatile, etc.

Don't try to hijack anc as if its a Zulu party it was Native Congress not Zulu natives they led not National Congress way !!JZ has been trying to potray it as such recently maybe it no coincident the flare up of violence in kzn !!
Report Abuse

KennyS

Foolish South Africans this should no longer be what happened 125 uears ago between Mbeki and Zuma and the rest. This is about what is currently dealing with and how to get out of it. Zuma is NOT the man for the job and right now we are doomed. Enough with the bloody emotions of Polokwane, the state of our country is in collapse. We need to act fast. We TM to help up steer things to where they were before his rude departure. in Zuma leadership we are hearing of grandparents loosing benefit of children grant because they want this money fro themselves. South Africans we are in trouble oooo
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ SOLUTIONS

There is always a turning point smart D!ck.
Report Abuse

s.cold

Mporoz
@ Gusheshe (Nsimbi yamaSimba)

I'm from e-Folweni, @$$ wipe!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------
insimbi ya thuvu/makaka/masimba

LOL!!!!!!!
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ KennyS

No, you are doomed. Thina today we are celebrating the achievement of a lifetime. Our scientists have today made an anouncement of discovring an antibodies that neutralise HIV. So dont pull us with you in your troubles with TM!!!!!!
Report Abuse

s.cold

Mporoz
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ZIYADELELA LOEZIZILWANYANA WENA MKHAYA
ASIBATHATHE,,,,BAKHULUMA KAKHULU UMA BEKUDE
ABEZE LA SIBASHAYE THINA!!!!!!!!


IZWE LETHU LELI,,,,,,,SEBEZONDA YONKE INTO ETHI ZULU
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

Tasto_
Don't try to hijack anc as if its a Zulu party it was Native Congress not Zulu natives they led not National Congress way !!JZ has been trying to potray it as such recently maybe it no coincident the flare up of violence in kzn !!
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, t.ribal w.ars are slowly but surely starting and it is showing, read even this blog, if zooomer gets another term how many of the other tribes will vote again or cast their vote to another party because zoomer is creating an zulu anc.
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ s.cold

Sure, same like Malema. He will be dealt with shortly lowo.
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

Mporoz
There is always a turning point smart D!ck.
-------------------------------------------
Thanks, the problem with the anc is that it is now an unstoppable situation, like typical CancER, it has now gone to the core and there is no treatment to stop it. The previous treatment just lost a few hairs and the CancER became worse. Did you watch Carte blanch last night?
Report Abuse

s.cold

SITHI ABANTU ABAHLANGANE,,,,,,,,,THE REST BEZWA THINA

YES I DO LOVE U ZUMA,,,JUST BECAUSE NINA ANIZONDI IZENZO ZAKHE
NINYANYISWA UKUTHI UNGUMAGEBA

KUNGENAPHI UKUTHI UFUNDE KANGAKANANI
UNABAFAZI ABANGAKI
UNEKHANDA ELINJANI
ULALE NOBANI
UNGUMHLOBO MUNI



UMALEBE KADE EMTHUKA EMHLAMBALAZA BUT AKAZANGE ATHI KITI
UZITHULELE NJE,,BADLA IZIMALI ELIMPOPO NIBLAMA YENA
BAYABULALANA EMARIKANA NIBLAMA YENA
YONKE NJE INTO ENGAHLANGENE NAYE NIFUNA ABE U-SUPERMAN


FUSEGANI MAKWEREKWERE NDINI
Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ SOLUTIONS
Tasto_

The ANC is for all Tribes that why we have {Zuma, Mothlanthe and Mantashe}, if by mantioning the first president of the ANC I'm being tribal than I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

Mporoz
The ANC is for all Tribes that why we have {Zuma, Mothlanthe and Mantashe}, if by mantioning the first president of the ANC I'm being tribal than I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is, but with what zoomer is doing he is undermining the heritage of the anc, where was the last soweto uprising memorial held?
Report Abuse

SOLUTIONS

Mporoz
The ANC is for all Tribes that why we have {Zuma, Mothlanthe and Mantashe}, if by mantioning the first president of the ANC I'm being tribal than I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is, but with what zoomer is doing he is undermining the heritage of the anc, where was the last soweto u.prising memorial held?
Report Abuse

KennyS

@Mporoz those were white doctors who came up with the findings_And honestly what has that got to do with the government and failure to manage this country. Yes this country has potential but is it only Science finding that we should celebrate. Things are quickly falling apart, look at the potholes, the poor service at local governmnet, corruption in police service, the rising costs of living, Telkom wants to hike electricity by 16%_We need financial planners, we need intellects, soon grandparents wont have access to grants and what will happen to those children and families, As much as you think this is about hating Zuma you need to realise it has nothing to do with Zuma but this country and its people! Zuma must step down,
Report Abuse

Tikoloshe

...Is this political dinasaur still alive.....

...Africa's worst politicain ever, he and Skosazana engineered the failed Zimbabwean State, permitted 4 million illegal immigrants to move freely into our country, used State institutions to fight political battles, killed 300 000 AIDS victims by feeding them beetroot, garlic and traditional herbs, entrenched State corruption and laid the path for SA to become De La Republique de Bananas.

...Motlanthe thinks this is a good move to align himself with Mbeki, Malema, Madikizela and Phosa.....HiHiHi.....

...PLEASE Thabo, go and find yourself a place to bury yourself alongside failed African leaders like Amin and Vervoerd..and remember to keep a place next to you for your friend Bob!!!

Report Abuse

Mporoz

@ KennyS

"Telkom wants to hike electricity by 16%"

I rest my case!!!!!!!!! Just go educate yourself I dont know where to Start young lady!
Report Abuse

IndigenousNconservative

south africans have short memories, this guy denied the existance of HIV, he sold our country to IMF and world bank. He allowed immigrants to flood our country so that the poor can remain poor. He was instrumental in getting our country to spend billions in buying arms, Gautrain yet the children did not have proper schools. this guy should be rejected he detroyed this country. but what can we expect we are in SA we dont remember history
Report Abuse

Tsar-Rasputin

Aye ye Showera!!!, as in the 80's Karate movies, Golden and Silver Fox are coming for you
Report Abuse

McLoving

@IndigenousNconservative
The influx of immigrants was out of control long before Mbeki became the president.I remember when Mongosuthu objected when he was still Minister of home affiars,people complained that he was not in exile ,those people looked after south africans who where in exile in the neighbouring countries.
Even today there are poor measures to curb influx of forei gners in the country.
I think many people and diplomatics deliberately kept quiet to let zuma dug his own grave.The country is in a mess because of zuma
Report Abuse

silolo

yes Mbeki was wrong in his dealing with Aids but let us not use that to dissuade attention from the present reality that the country now is leaderless, the country is too sophisticated to be led by an uneducated person
Report Abuse

RobinHH

Tikoloshe: With respect, Sir, your closing paragraph has to be one of the most confused piecdes of political garbage I have ever read.

Report Abuse

Ruudboy

lemme guess Tikoloshe is a DIE HARD ZUMA fan
Report Abuse

dzivhuluwani

Vhanwe vha vharanga phanda vha ANC ndi magoswi....................
Report Abuse

OASIS

Guys, I am not a fan of JZ but people seem to have selective amnesia: TM presided over a turmulous period in South Africa. Remember Travelgate scandal?, Oilgate scandal, Violence in Khutsong, Biggest public servants strike ever held in SA?, Influx of criminal foreign nationals?, Conceptualisation of e toll?, Mafia's inflitrating South Africa (Aglioti, Keeble, Selebi, who happened to be his friends?), Armsdeal (he was a president, how can you allow your deputy to sign certain papers without your consent or knowledge? and th BIGGEST of all AIDS denialism (to prove a point that he thought he was always right). Read a heated exchange of letters between Dr/ Prof Mokgopa, who was at that period, Medical Research Council PRESIDENT, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEING TM was/ is.Fact remains, we lost millions of our brothers and sisters because he could not allow professionals and experts to do their job.
Report Abuse

ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

When is Sihle Zikalala going to suggest the moving of the KZN capital from PMaritzburg to Nkandla! It is only logical and ofcourse we all have to say YEEEEEES!!! Yes to Nkandla whether we like ot or not!
Report Abuse

ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

@OASIS
Guys, I am not a fan of JZ but people seem to have selective amnesia: TM presided over a turmulous period in South Africa. Remember Travelgate scandal?, Oilgate scandal, Violence in Khutsong, Biggest public servants strike ever held in SA?, Influx of criminal foreign nationals?, Conceptualisation of e toll?, Mafia's inflitrating South Africa (Aglioti, Keeble, Selebi, who happened to be his friends?), Armsdeal (he was a president, how can you allow your deputy to sign certain papers without your consent or knowledge? and th BIGGEST of all AIDS denialism (to prove a point that he thought he was always right). Read a heated exchange of letters between Dr/ Prof Mokgopa, who was at that period, Medical Research Council PRESIDENT, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEING TM was/ is.Fact remains, we lost millions of our brothers and sisters because he could not allow professionals and experts to do their job.
Report Abuse
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, you are trying to justify what is happening now? Pathetic!

Travelgate: I thought ANC MPs were dealt with but defintely no different from how Britain dealt with its own scandal in the House of Commons. This whole thing does not have naything to do with Mbeki. If you step out and it sarts raining, it does not mean that you have anything to do with it.

Oilgate scandal: How does it have anything to do with Mbeki?

Violence in Khutsong. There were people in Merafeng who were happy to be part of North-West. Borders are always complicated.

Biggest public servants' strike ever. So where is the crime? Mbeki did not just give in to demands. He knew he was dealing with taxpayers' money and that budgets had to be balanced.

Armsdeal. He was president. How can you allow .........(What the hell are you talking about? Stick to what you know; nothing)

AIDS denialism? That is what it is simplistically called by ignoramuses? First, I think it was probably to question the link between HIV and AIDS in public, but that is exactly how genuine research projects start; by questioning convention. The HIV and AIDS debate is still going on regardless of the silence in SA. And there are enough award-winning researchers and scientists on both sides. Research is always about investigating the causal link between between factors. For instance, if the crime stats fall in 5 years time, one would simplistically think that it had something to do with police action and police may well want to take credit. But from a researcher's point of view, that may not well be the case. It could have been other factors. And that is the question the researcher has to find answers to; what are these factors. Without these research answers, there is always misallocation of resources and that is why nations and economies fail.
Report Abuse