THE decision by Louis Koen of Hoërskool Grenswag in Rustenburg, North West, to reject a black pupil from participating in hockey trials because of her colour is a devastating reminder of our sad apartheid past.
Read about this a few days ago.
Horrifying.
My deepest and humblest apologies to Rego Modise. I salute her parents for not just letting this slide and seriously hope that the preacher who defended this is brought to book Report Abuse
Why is the Human Rights Comission so mum, better still the Afriforum. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Siyazama
Ag you know I so wish that white people can change their attitude because before God we are all the same. Black people are so peacefull, if you want to see racism come to Cape Town then you will see it. God bless South Africa, because the only blessing we can regard in this beautiful country is love and peace. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
RobinH
This incident is disgusting and Mr Koen should be "nailed to the wall". His principal as well, for allowing it to happen at his/her school.
However, the writer makes an asumption regarding Mr Koen, and then, based on that very uncertain assumption, the validity of which I would strongly question, she makes comments about "the white community". She assumes that Koen holds Mandela in regard, and then suggest that the regard others have for the man is false. One assumes form the fact that this is headed up as "Sowetan Editorial" that this is the view of the Editor of this paper, and if that is indeed the case, this is grossly irresponsible, and divisive. Dear Editor, I strongly object to the view you voice, and cannot help but see echoes of Boesak's highly flawed and downright arrogant and misleading article published yesterday. Is your editor adopting a particular stance in first publishing Boesak's indulgent drivel and then following it up with this insult? Sir, this is unprofessional in the extreme. An apology would be in order.
It is apparent from the comment from Siyazama, that the damage has already been done. How dare you question the honesty of an entire group based on one completely insane incident, and a ridiculous analysis by a disgraced corrupt politician. SHAME ON YOU! Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
todaysnews
sickening....
an appology is not enough, he should get fired and deported to nowhere. all racist people should be deported to a land of nowhere...like in the middle of nothing with nothing.....
of do they think they are, really now.
they(racists) think they are better than all other races....based on what?
ignorant foolish people. idiots. smelly pigs. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Cool, so I can take the BMF to court as well? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
siphok
Aparthead ruled for a number of decates, Non racial gorvenment is just over a decate an a half, thus Koen or Kloen whatever his name is a byproduct of aparthead " so what do u expect". He is so dump that he cannot even use his head to think "include someone in trials and just fail him if you dont like him" an promote those who will embarass the nation with their shoddy talent! Life goes on, I have been excluded that way in my articles days as an accountant but I was better than most white boys n girls". To h ell with this kind of people" Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
siphok
@ RobinH,
I take offence at people who divert issues, to non issues. The editor will never please all people but to put issues in the way thinks portray themselves in his mind, anyway this guy is a pro in his job, I like him cos he can read minds of most people an make a conclusion. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
siphok - 4 decades, and the ANC govermnent (non-racial government my @ss), is 19 years old. Half of the lifespan of apartheid.
Dont worry, white people get excluded from things every day. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
RobinH
siphok: With respect, it is a false conclusion that does not consider the contribution of many peopkle who actually participated in the struggle and many of whom made considerable sacrifices. I stick to my strenuous objection. It is irresponsible from an editor and I WILL voice my objection. Shortsighted and counterproductive in the extreme. Report Abuse
But this does not mean that black kids & people are been mistreated by white people all over this country. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
cornelius
Whoa just there people.it is a little more nuanced than that. The story I read is that this Bokkie Week is not an official event of any sort, but part of an Afrikaner cultural event. The organizers have said that because of affirmative action policies in sport at school level, many Afrikaner kids do not get a chance to participate at a higher level. Right or wrong, this is true : I have seen it myself - because of quota requirements, better w.hite players often have to see how bl.ack kids get chosen ahead of them. I am not saying this is wrong, unfortunatel w.hite kids do to an extent have to pay for the sins of their fathers.
The point is that, if a community decides to have such an event - not sponsored by or under the auspices of any government organization, in order to give kids from a section of the population that is at the receiving end of affirmative action policies , a chance to participate at a higher level, be barred form doing so ?
If the answer is yes, maybe someone form the Blac.k L.awyers Association should represent the child, and if she wins money, she can be assisited by the Young B.lack Enterpreneurs origanization to invest it on her behalf ? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
So why no comments on the lack of white players in Bafana Bafana, or the sporting events, clinics and academies that ONLY support or accept black players? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
Siyazama
I hope you are being sarcastic because the black man is anything but peaceful. Look at juju and his racist remarks, zoomer and his racist remakes, mdluli and his current racist remarks, the killing of white farmers, Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
RobinH
Cornelius. It is a school, and thus policies like this should be in line with national education policy - and hey, what about plain old common decency. There is NO WAY you can try and talk this clean! We should be trying to rid our country of such nonsense, NOT reintroducing it. And don't come to me with the: well "they do this or that" argument, because that just doesn't hold water. Two wrongs never make a right. Ethics is not arithmatic. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
cornelius
@ Siyazama. At last is seems we have someone who can tell us about this racism in Cape Town that we hear about so often. In the past when I have questioned people about this they have referred to the toilet saga. Of course thsi does not hold water since so many similar and worse instances have been uncovered in other provinces. Please tell me, where is this racism inCT ? I will listen with an open mind . Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
MommaC
cornelius
There was a particularly distressing comment by a young woman on The Times yesterday. A young hockey player was saying that those very 'quotas' are what is holding back the sport. She pointed out that if a team has to have 3 players of colour, they pick only 3. The fact that there are 6 who deserve to be there on merit alone is swamped by the red tape.
I have never been turned away from a Portuguese cultural day, a German cultural day or any other cultural day. This is simple lager mentality where the Afrikaans kids don't play with the English kids and nobody plays with the darker kids. That is not what our country is about any longer. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
mbondo
@MommaC&Robin
Good to hear a change of heart and a breath of fresh air, 2booers putting another racist booer Cornelius into order. Ha ha ha ha , I am f*cken laughing maaan. Beautiful I love it. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
RobinH
Mbondo: I am Afri kaans speaking but I have never been a "b o e r". Big difference. It's like saying if one is Xho sa one is automatically ANC, which of course is nonsense. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
RobinH - Bo3r is what the black people call Afrikan3rs.
The irony though, is mbondo calling us bo3re, but then denying that he gets his food from us. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
MommaC
mbondo
Haai sies Bong. Go pray immediately. That is not the preacherly way :) Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
cornelius
@ Mbondo. Please read my post with attention and then tell me why you call me a r.acist ? In the process, please bear in mind the difference between someone making ra.cist comments, and one pointing out facts and hypocrisy.
Also, please explain the difference between this exclusivity, and that of the BLA,BMF and the myriad of other exclusively bla.ck organizations.
MommaC, you may also let me know whether you expect to be welcome in those organizations.
Also, in the instances which you refer to, those children would have the law on their side to correct the situation. A w.hite child who has to stand back does not have that " luxury".
Which organisations?
Maybe if you could point out where a 'white child' is denied the opportunity to even try to get into a sporting event then I'd have a better idea of where you are coming from? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Going to have to agree with cornelius on this one, and tell MommaC and RobinH that you guys are wrong. Sure, its not a t1t-for-t@t battle, but whit3s are excluded more from everyday South Africa than you would care to ignore. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
Im starting my own exclusive charity organisation:
Sin, I see where you're coming from, but association with a term representing a group with whom I will never be aligned is offensive to me. My feelings regarding the term are probably very similar to those of darker skinned people toward the k-word. I understand that people use the term loosely, but I do not accept it. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
cornelius
@ MommaC.
BLA, BMF, YBE, and many many more. There is a " Bl.ack this and "Blac.k that" for almost every industry.
No, I did not say w.hite kids are prevented from trying to get into sport events, I am saying there are quota requirements that have the result that better players sometimes have to stand back because of the colour of their skins, evne though they had nothing to do with apartheid. This is something that is very very difficult for a child to understand and accept, as bl.ack people will very well know.
YBE, in case you did not know, is the Young Bl.ack Enterpreneurs organization, in front of which the government spokesman, Mr Jimmy Manyi said last year : " There is no such thing as merit out there that you have to worry about, it is about transformation only" or words very close to that. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
RobinH
Sin. With respect, the way you are putting it is exactly a t!t fot tat situation and no use to anyone. I don't ignore the "exclusions" and indeed find the very problematic, not so much for my own sake as for that of my children. After all, my part of the struggle was fought to create a peaceful home for my children. My time is nearly over, so I don't really count. But5, to counter exclusions with exclusions is just taking the easy way out. We fought for what is right, and should continue to agitate toward that goal. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
RobinH - Do you speak Afrikaans? Then you are a bo3r.
But dont worry, the bo3re are awesome. We single-handedly conquer3d the entire Br1tish army even while being badly outnumbered. We started the youngest languag3 in the world. We were one of the first countries in the world to develop nuk3s (and then first in the world to dismantl3 them). 600 Afrikan3rs defeated a commun1st army 30,000 strong in Angola. An Afrikan3r started Payp@l, then sold it. Now he's director of Tesla motors and SpaceX (Next month, soon to be the 1st commercial company to build a spaceshuttle that docks with the ISS). Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Sinudeity
RobinH - You faught for what is right? Now look what we are stuck with.
Black only organisations, which you are excluded from. But as soon as the minority wants to do something similiar, then ooh, its bad, and "I didnt fight for this".
On top of that, the LAWS of the country, back this exclusion. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
MommaC
cornelius
BLA, BMF, YBE ????
Really? You want to be a member of a support group for people who can't cope on their own?
We also have Alcoholics Anonymous but I'm not complaining about not having membership to that.
Jimmy Manye is a poephol of note. What he and Malema and Hofmeyer say are best not mulled over.
You say that it is hard for a child to understand the quota system then do not see the irony of a child not even being allowed onto the field to achieve a 'quota' place. The quota system should be scrapped and it seems like Fikile is on path to do so. The fact of the matter is that it still allows those who are above and beyond their peers to achieve a place. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
cornelius
Come now MommaC you know its about the principle and the hypocrisy.
Manyi is a poeph.ol, but a very powe.rful poeph.ol. He is the Chairperson of the Commission for Employm.ent E.quity, amongst other positions. That means that if my son or daughter feel that BE.E policies are being implem.ented ag.ainst them in an un.fair manner, Jimmy is the man they must turn to. Employment ' EQUI.TY " ? What a sa.d joke.
The ir.ony ofthe child being turned away ?
MommaC you can think of it this way : Afrikane.rs are like dis.abled people, maybe " le.pers" would be a better description.They are insult.ed at every turn, reminded of how e.vil there " crimin.al ' ancesto.rs were, they can forget about being appointed in governm.ent positions, or receiving promotion if they are already in gover.nment. This event was apparently for these disa.bled lep.ers only. If you are not a dis.abled lepe.r, would you insist on joining there games ? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
MommaC
cornelius
LOL
That is the littlest violin I ever saw :)
Calling me a leper isn't going to make me feel sorry for myself or make me believe that I am. My clan survived the English concentration camps so they are certainly tough enough to survive a bit of valid competition without suddenly getting a victim mentality.
My heart goes out to the young lady. What was done to her was wrong. To humiliate her like that purely due to the colour of her skin makes me want to go around slapping Afrikaans speaking people - and I am one! Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
Doctor-who
The solution is very simple, close all these schools and don't allow them to operate. If the perpetrators are known and there is proof.. arrest and convict them for Treason. Report Abuse
@ MommaC, I don't think you are getting the point, it is certainly not about victim mentality, it's exactly the opposite. You see, the disabled lepers could go and sit in a corner and cry and ask the government to do something to help them ( remind you of anyone) or they can simply decide to entertain themselves, arrange their own sporting and cultural events, etc. They would also want to improve their lots by starting their own companies for example, and they can do this, except of course once they become succesfull and they want to start doing big business, they will have to hand over at least 50% of that business to someone who loathes them because they are disabled lepers. So the disabled lepers are chased away from government and when they do their own thing instead, and become succesfull at that, they are again stymied.
Don't worry MommaC I am not crying, I am still quite happy to be a disabled leper. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
BaleliM
Why is this racial issue just cropping up everywhere? Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
cornelius
Oh and BTW MommaC there is nothing little about my violin. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
MommaC
cornelius
The problem with your theory is that you are self imposing the leper status upon yourself. Nobody said you should walk around with a bell and only associate with the diseased. Its self inflicted.
If my child had been sent by her coach to go for trials and was then turned away because of her skin colour, I wouldn't give a tinkers toss how foolish the excuse was. I'd simply be furious that she was humiliated and marginalised. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
cornelius
No MC, the story I read stated that it was an invitations only event, tthe child turned up on her own initiative. Who knows what to believe, but it would be surprising if this child ( and her coach if he/she was involved) did not know what the score was on this event. Actually quite possible that she entered precisely to raise this kind of a scandal.
Doctor-who - LOL, ur kidding right? In that case, due to the BMF, all black owned businesses should be shut down, and those people guilty of excluding others not of the same skin colour, should be tried for treason. Report Abuse
May 11, 2012
spatch
Gosh, lucky we did not have a sad and wicked past like Rwanda (800 000 de ad in 2 months) or Congo (4.5 million murdered in a couple of years) or have had Mr Mengistu as president, or have been boiled in a pot and eaten by Charles Taylor etc etc, darn, did I forget to mention Idi Amin?
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MommaC
Read about this a few days ago.Horrifying.
My deepest and humblest apologies to Rego Modise. I salute her parents for not just letting this slide and seriously hope that the preacher who defended this is brought to book
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imthegreatest
these people will never change.Report Abuse
imthegreatest
these peopl will never change.Report Abuse
Idohl
Why is the Human Rights Comission so mum, better still the Afriforum.Report Abuse
Siyazama
Ag you know I so wish that white people can change their attitude because before God we are all the same. Black people are so peacefull, if you want to see racism come to Cape Town then you will see it. God bless South Africa, because the only blessing we can regard in this beautiful country is love and peace.Report Abuse
RobinH
This incident is disgusting and Mr Koen should be "nailed to the wall". His principal as well, for allowing it to happen at his/her school.However, the writer makes an asumption regarding Mr Koen, and then, based on that very uncertain assumption, the validity of which I would strongly question, she makes comments about "the white community". She assumes that Koen holds Mandela in regard, and then suggest that the regard others have for the man is false. One assumes form the fact that this is headed up as "Sowetan Editorial" that this is the view of the Editor of this paper, and if that is indeed the case, this is grossly irresponsible, and divisive. Dear Editor, I strongly object to the view you voice, and cannot help but see echoes of Boesak's highly flawed and downright arrogant and misleading article published yesterday. Is your editor adopting a particular stance in first publishing Boesak's indulgent drivel and then following it up with this insult? Sir, this is unprofessional in the extreme. An apology would be in order.
It is apparent from the comment from Siyazama, that the damage has already been done. How dare you question the honesty of an entire group based on one completely insane incident, and a ridiculous analysis by a disgraced corrupt politician. SHAME ON YOU!
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todaysnews
sickening....an appology is not enough, he should get fired and deported to nowhere. all racist people should be deported to a land of nowhere...like in the middle of nothing with nothing.....
of do they think they are, really now.
they(racists) think they are better than all other races....based on what?
ignorant foolish people. idiots. smelly pigs.
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Sinudeity
Cool, so I can take the BMF to court as well?Report Abuse
siphok
Aparthead ruled for a number of decates, Non racial gorvenment is just over a decate an a half, thus Koen or Kloen whatever his name is a byproduct of aparthead " so what do u expect". He is so dump that he cannot even use his head to think "include someone in trials and just fail him if you dont like him" an promote those who will embarass the nation with their shoddy talent! Life goes on, I have been excluded that way in my articles days as an accountant but I was better than most white boys n girls". To h ell with this kind of people"Report Abuse
siphok
@ RobinH,I take offence at people who divert issues, to non issues. The editor will never please all people but to put issues in the way thinks portray themselves in his mind, anyway this guy is a pro in his job, I like him cos he can read minds of most people an make a conclusion.
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Sinudeity
siphok - 4 decades, and the ANC govermnent (non-racial government my @ss), is 19 years old. Half of the lifespan of apartheid.Dont worry, white people get excluded from things every day.
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RobinH
siphok: With respect, it is a false conclusion that does not consider the contribution of many peopkle who actually participated in the struggle and many of whom made considerable sacrifices. I stick to my strenuous objection. It is irresponsible from an editor and I WILL voice my objection. Shortsighted and counterproductive in the extreme.Report Abuse
mikeamb1
Example set by Prez Zumahttp://mg.co.za/article/2008-02-23-white-journalists-fume-over-forums-zuma-meet
We need some introspection.
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The-Rothschilds
OK guys, bad incidents happen all over the world.These people must be brought to book.
But this does not mean that black kids & people are been mistreated by white people all over this country.
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cornelius
Whoa just there people.it is a little more nuanced than that. The story I read is that this Bokkie Week is not an official event of any sort, but part of an Afrikaner cultural event. The organizers have said that because of affirmative action policies in sport at school level, many Afrikaner kids do not get a chance to participate at a higher level. Right or wrong, this is true : I have seen it myself - because of quota requirements, better w.hite players often have to see how bl.ack kids get chosen ahead of them. I am not saying this is wrong, unfortunatel w.hite kids do to an extent have to pay for the sins of their fathers.The point is that, if a community decides to have such an event - not sponsored by or under the auspices of any government organization, in order to give kids from a section of the population that is at the receiving end of affirmative action policies , a chance to participate at a higher level, be barred form doing so ?
If the answer is yes, maybe someone form the Blac.k L.awyers Association should represent the child, and if she wins money, she can be assisited by the Young B.lack Enterpreneurs origanization to invest it on her behalf ?
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DA-DBN-GUY
So why no comments on the lack of white players in Bafana Bafana, or the sporting events, clinics and academies that ONLY support or accept black players?Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
SiyazamaI hope you are being sarcastic because the black man is anything but peaceful. Look at juju and his racist remarks, zoomer and his racist remakes, mdluli and his current racist remarks, the killing of white farmers,
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RobinH
Cornelius. It is a school, and thus policies like this should be in line with national education policy - and hey, what about plain old common decency. There is NO WAY you can try and talk this clean! We should be trying to rid our country of such nonsense, NOT reintroducing it. And don't come to me with the: well "they do this or that" argument, because that just doesn't hold water. Two wrongs never make a right. Ethics is not arithmatic.Report Abuse
cornelius
@ Siyazama. At last is seems we have someone who can tell us about this racism in Cape Town that we hear about so often. In the past when I have questioned people about this they have referred to the toilet saga. Of course thsi does not hold water since so many similar and worse instances have been uncovered in other provinces. Please tell me, where is this racism inCT ? I will listen with an open mind .Report Abuse
MommaC
corneliusThere was a particularly distressing comment by a young woman on The Times yesterday. A young hockey player was saying that those very 'quotas' are what is holding back the sport. She pointed out that if a team has to have 3 players of colour, they pick only 3. The fact that there are 6 who deserve to be there on merit alone is swamped by the red tape.
I have never been turned away from a Portuguese cultural day, a German cultural day or any other cultural day. This is simple lager mentality where the Afrikaans kids don't play with the English kids and nobody plays with the darker kids. That is not what our country is about any longer.
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mbondo
@MommaC&RobinGood to hear a change of heart and a breath of fresh air, 2booers putting another racist booer Cornelius into order. Ha ha ha ha , I am f*cken laughing maaan. Beautiful I love it.
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RobinH
Mbondo: I am Afri kaans speaking but I have never been a "b o e r". Big difference. It's like saying if one is Xho sa one is automatically ANC, which of course is nonsense.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
RobinH - Bo3r is what the black people call Afrikan3rs.The irony though, is mbondo calling us bo3re, but then denying that he gets his food from us.
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MommaC
mbondoHaai sies Bong. Go pray immediately. That is not the preacherly way :)
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cornelius
@ Mbondo. Please read my post with attention and then tell me why you call me a r.acist ? In the process, please bear in mind the difference between someone making ra.cist comments, and one pointing out facts and hypocrisy.Also, please explain the difference between this exclusivity, and that of the BLA,BMF and the myriad of other exclusively bla.ck organizations.
MommaC, you may also let me know whether you expect to be welcome in those organizations.
Also, in the instances which you refer to, those children would have the law on their side to correct the situation. A w.hite child who has to stand back does not have that " luxury".
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MommaC
corneliusWhich organisations?
Maybe if you could point out where a 'white child' is denied the opportunity to even try to get into a sporting event then I'd have a better idea of where you are coming from?
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Sinudeity
Going to have to agree with cornelius on this one, and tell MommaC and RobinH that you guys are wrong. Sure, its not a t1t-for-t@t battle, but whit3s are excluded more from everyday South Africa than you would care to ignore.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Im starting my own exclusive charity organisation:"White kids without iPads" :P
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RobinH
Sin, I see where you're coming from, but association with a term representing a group with whom I will never be aligned is offensive to me. My feelings regarding the term are probably very similar to those of darker skinned people toward the k-word. I understand that people use the term loosely, but I do not accept it.Report Abuse
cornelius
@ MommaC.BLA, BMF, YBE, and many many more. There is a " Bl.ack this and "Blac.k that" for almost every industry.
No, I did not say w.hite kids are prevented from trying to get into sport events, I am saying there are quota requirements that have the result that better players sometimes have to stand back because of the colour of their skins, evne though they had nothing to do with apartheid. This is something that is very very difficult for a child to understand and accept, as bl.ack people will very well know.
YBE, in case you did not know, is the Young Bl.ack Enterpreneurs organization, in front of which the government spokesman, Mr Jimmy Manyi said last year : " There is no such thing as merit out there that you have to worry about, it is about transformation only" or words very close to that.
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RobinH
Sin. With respect, the way you are putting it is exactly a t!t fot tat situation and no use to anyone. I don't ignore the "exclusions" and indeed find the very problematic, not so much for my own sake as for that of my children. After all, my part of the struggle was fought to create a peaceful home for my children. My time is nearly over, so I don't really count. But5, to counter exclusions with exclusions is just taking the easy way out. We fought for what is right, and should continue to agitate toward that goal.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
RobinH - Do you speak Afrikaans? Then you are a bo3r.But dont worry, the bo3re are awesome. We single-handedly conquer3d the entire Br1tish army even while being badly outnumbered. We started the youngest languag3 in the world. We were one of the first countries in the world to develop nuk3s (and then first in the world to dismantl3 them). 600 Afrikan3rs defeated a commun1st army 30,000 strong in Angola. An Afrikan3r started Payp@l, then sold it. Now he's director of Tesla motors and SpaceX (Next month, soon to be the 1st commercial company to build a spaceshuttle that docks with the ISS).
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Sinudeity
RobinH - You faught for what is right? Now look what we are stuck with.Black only organisations, which you are excluded from. But as soon as the minority wants to do something similiar, then ooh, its bad, and "I didnt fight for this".
On top of that, the LAWS of the country, back this exclusion.
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MommaC
corneliusBLA, BMF, YBE ????
Really? You want to be a member of a support group for people who can't cope on their own?
We also have Alcoholics Anonymous but I'm not complaining about not having membership to that.
Jimmy Manye is a poephol of note. What he and Malema and Hofmeyer say are best not mulled over.
You say that it is hard for a child to understand the quota system then do not see the irony of a child not even being allowed onto the field to achieve a 'quota' place. The quota system should be scrapped and it seems like Fikile is on path to do so. The fact of the matter is that it still allows those who are above and beyond their peers to achieve a place.
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cornelius
Come now MommaC you know its about the principle and the hypocrisy.Manyi is a poeph.ol, but a very powe.rful poeph.ol. He is the Chairperson of the Commission for Employm.ent E.quity, amongst other positions. That means that if my son or daughter feel that BE.E policies are being implem.ented ag.ainst them in an un.fair manner, Jimmy is the man they must turn to. Employment ' EQUI.TY " ? What a sa.d joke.
The ir.ony ofthe child being turned away ?
MommaC you can think of it this way : Afrikane.rs are like dis.abled people, maybe " le.pers" would be a better description.They are insult.ed at every turn, reminded of how e.vil there " crimin.al ' ancesto.rs were, they can forget about being appointed in governm.ent positions, or receiving promotion if they are already in gover.nment. This event was apparently for these disa.bled lep.ers only. If you are not a dis.abled lepe.r, would you insist on joining there games ?
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MommaC
corneliusLOL
That is the littlest violin I ever saw :)
Calling me a leper isn't going to make me feel sorry for myself or make me believe that I am. My clan survived the English concentration camps so they are certainly tough enough to survive a bit of valid competition without suddenly getting a victim mentality.
My heart goes out to the young lady. What was done to her was wrong. To humiliate her like that purely due to the colour of her skin makes me want to go around slapping Afrikaans speaking people - and I am one!
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Doctor-who
The solution is very simple, close all these schools and don't allow them to operate. If the perpetrators are known and there is proof.. arrest and convict them for Treason.Report Abuse
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cornelius
@ MommaC, I don't think you are getting the point, it is certainly not about victim mentality, it's exactly the opposite. You see, the disabled lepers could go and sit in a corner and cry and ask the government to do something to help them ( remind you of anyone) or they can simply decide to entertain themselves, arrange their own sporting and cultural events, etc. They would also want to improve their lots by starting their own companies for example, and they can do this, except of course once they become succesfull and they want to start doing big business, they will have to hand over at least 50% of that business to someone who loathes them because they are disabled lepers. So the disabled lepers are chased away from government and when they do their own thing instead, and become succesfull at that, they are again stymied.Don't worry MommaC I am not crying, I am still quite happy to be a disabled leper.
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BaleliM
Why is this racial issue just cropping up everywhere?Report Abuse
cornelius
Oh and BTW MommaC there is nothing little about my violin.Report Abuse
MommaC
corneliusThe problem with your theory is that you are self imposing the leper status upon yourself. Nobody said you should walk around with a bell and only associate with the diseased. Its self inflicted.
If my child had been sent by her coach to go for trials and was then turned away because of her skin colour, I wouldn't give a tinkers toss how foolish the excuse was. I'd simply be furious that she was humiliated and marginalised.
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cornelius
No MC, the story I read stated that it was an invitations only event, tthe child turned up on her own initiative. Who knows what to believe, but it would be surprising if this child ( and her coach if he/she was involved) did not know what the score was on this event. Actually quite possible that she entered precisely to raise this kind of a scandal.Anyway I am tired of this story now.
R.acist B.oer signing off.
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Sinudeity
Doctor-who - LOL, ur kidding right? In that case, due to the BMF, all black owned businesses should be shut down, and those people guilty of excluding others not of the same skin colour, should be tried for treason.Report Abuse
spatch
Gosh, lucky we did not have a sad and wicked past like Rwanda (800 000 de ad in 2 months) or Congo (4.5 million murdered in a couple of years) or have had Mr Mengistu as president, or have been boiled in a pot and eaten by Charles Taylor etc etc, darn, did I forget to mention Idi Amin?Sad and wicket lol
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cornelius
TREASON ?? Oh my word, now there's a rational and intelligent comment.Report Abuse
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