" I think that's why the ANC can no longer do what it did at the beginning because it needs to act, and act resolutely,"
And when you act Mr Zuma please don't forget to also remove that greedy Castle Mathale as he messed up Limpopo province by stealing our (tax payers) money to enrich himself through tender irregularities.
Of course all if not most politicians do steal one way or another especially through tenders but the guy and Juju just went way way overboard!!! Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Charley4sure
Enough Sowetan, this is old news. U also forgot to include this statement:
"The decision has divided the party's top six officials, with Phosa, deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe and deputy secretary general Thandi Modise favouring a political solution to the matter while Mantashe, Zuma and ANC chairperson Baleka Mbete prefer disciplinary action".
never liked juju but i respect his charecter for believing in what he bilieve-in without fear of being rejected. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Traveljunie
Where are all the Juju lovers? Look at him and watch how stupid hurts.
Send him to Zim and let the mimdless followers go with him, ta-ta Juju!! Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Ndese1
Zuma is patient guy and whenever he acts, he does that decisively. Zuma once said it is easier to call yourself a revolutionary whilst you didn't do nothing to call yourself one. I don't Motlathe contesting Zuma in the coming elections. Zuma will prove wrong his foe within the ANC. Malema is over. Zuma for president Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Diva7
Julius vs. Jacob. Can't say I didn't see this coming. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
junejuly
Juju my bro ,this is the end of the road for you. why can't you give up eh? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
BlackPumkin
Okay I'm tired ....Can’t take any more news on JUJU, really. if he was not here Sowetan how would you sell your paper? I guess we would be buying a 2 paged paper? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
FANK
hmm..I'm sure if malema dies today there will be no sowetan and editors will be out of job.. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
JUBJUB
I dont like this monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
FANK
@ Charley4sure
Well said we will see what the decision the mother body will take and the impact afterall Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Makhosini0408
His T- shirts should read: Made in Luthuli House by the ANC for the sole purpose of recalling Mbeki and after that he became to big for his boots. The ANC created this monster, chickens are home to roost. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Gudguy
Journalist: So, Julius, we hear you are a bread winner in the Malema family!
JuJu: You see! people like saying all these sorts of things about me and its fine. Anyone who claims that I'm a bread winner must come forward with evidence and prove to the people that indeed, I entered a bread competition. According to my knowledge, I have never entered any bread competition. Bring the evidence - I'm not afraid
SteveBiko - This country wount be ruled by the evil ANC much longer dude. Wake up and smell the sewage flowing from your open toilet. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
DimitriusTsafendas
@TupacAmaru
We need to leave Jesus out of the whole thing bro. This scumbag fatass Julius might have built a church but he has never set his foot in it since. He's been persecuted for good reasons. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
BaleliM
Biting the hand that feeds you is definately not a good idea. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Papage
ANC must clean itself up and stop making noise, if they get rit of ANCYL Leaders, they must do that and move on, we can't keep on hearing depresing stories all the time, we tired of their voices. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Femi
So Malema was not bringing the party into disrepute when he was calling Thabo Mbeki a dead snake because it was all in Zuma's favour. For Zuma to quote that the ANC can no longer do what it did at the beginning because it needs to act referring to the party's failure to enforce the sanctions imposed on Malema does leaves very little to de desired. I really don't think this guy deserves a second term.
Who will emerge as winner between Zuma and Malema. Zuma is coming with 50% ANC members from KZN. Does Malema stand a chance, we shall see? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
OPZAZA
@TUPACAMARU
PLEASE BOSS, LEAVE THE BIBLE OUT OF THIS, PLEASE. AND MORE OVER, ALL YOUR THE VERSES YOU QUOTED HAVE THE WORD "PERSECUTED", I WONDER IF YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE TO PROOF THAT JUJU IS BEING PERSECUTED. LETS RESPECT GOD AND THE BIBLE. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Bolander
Both Zuma and JM need to go - who though can we trust to do what's right for our country - and our youth - someone with honour, integrity and that is a servant to the people, not a tick that sucks the blood of our nation? Is there anyone out there with these qualities or are they all out there for the "power" and the money? My opinion is that if Zuma stays, our country is only going to slide backwards and become "another african failure" - it is very important that the right president (for both our country and YL's) are selected NOW, so we can ensure that the foundations are built for a truly prosperous country over the next 20 to 30 years. Any suggestions? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
1tsotsi
The world suffers alot. Not becausenof violence of bad people, But because of the silence of good people. Silencing the voice of the YL wont solve any problems we are having, the reason jacob does that his covering his tracks of failure to deliver to the people. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Alutamugal
Juju the mafia does not want you anymore,please for the sake of your life & family just be reasonable, forget about them because you must rememer they can eliminate you. As much as you are corrupted,they are far more worse than you becasue they sold us out to the imperial. Whatever agreements they have with apartheid state ensured that a black person will be liberated after another hundred years! You must now go back to your home town (Limpopo), take care of your cattle & farm. Stay away from this people, please stay away one thing for sure HISTORY WILL JUDGE THEM VERY HARSH... Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
NJHOMBI
juju my man this is not the end of the world there's life out there without anc Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
MasterK
All can be said n done but comrade Julius has written his name in the history books of our country n the ANC. Everyone is guilty in the ANC but tough for Julius he is a victim of those in power.....a lot of people needs discipline in the top ANC leadership.
They should all get a life coz malema sees it all n they know he can play their game very well.
Sis ANC sis....U damaging the character of our movement.
There are policies within each organisation and one has to abide by them ortherwise go and join Buthelezi and lekota Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Commrade
@Funk you spoke like fair person, let us wait n c what de out come of the meeting is!!!!!!!!!!!
@Ndese1 its not over till de decision is taken u will b suprised...
@Traveljunie i'm 110% behind Presiden Malema Boss, nd point of correction we not Juju lovers we Juju Malema Followers cuz his is League President n he understand de struggle nd demovement do u...? @Sinudeity ANC is still going to rule i think 4 de next coming 50yrs or more gurranted.
Commrades let us put our feeling for Malema aside nd look @ de facts Malema iz not perfect like u "yes" those who dont like him...............but he is de greate leader he de only youth who cant speak his mind out loud no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Malema suspended or not he will always have a significent role to play in dis countries politics n de parties Movement"ANC" Viva Julius viva............
Malema's uphill battle to save his career
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LOL which career is that? being an @rse? oohhh for sure fight bomba fight but it comes natural to you so CLASS DISMISSED no future for you in ANC Report Abuse
Another one bite the dust, did'nt i told you so panks? (Malema ass kissers) Long Live the African National Congress Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
TigerEyes
Katse e hwa e ke ngapetse. right on JUJU. go on home boy. Motlanthe for Pres Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Commrade
@Sinudeity u telling the truth just like it is................@MasterK Boss whether they like it or not Malema made his Trade Mark not only ko Mzansi but World Wide!!!!!!!!
@maphakisa.com what policies do the people whom u refering to understand what a policy is" " maphakisa i'm a proud ANC member 4 life i change a party b'cuz of people who wants to silence the voice of the Youth....sorry to disappoint you we going no where...............
guys.............. please base you facts on politics not on individuals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! let us debate abt politics not personal feeling.............. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
it is becoming very difficult for one to not be tempted to say that malema is fully deserving of what's coming to him, and even when he is in the hole he keeps digging (like his odorous racist comment of yesterday), malema is a fool and the other side are capitalising on that, malema is also giving them enough ammunition to nail him, its going to be an uphill battle for his lawyers to fight to save his career, I don't envy their jobs.
I also think that winnie has something to do with malema's latest racist rant, its her influence, cause if malema was taking it serious the DC and the harm his thoughtless rants are doing to the anc, he would restrain himself, I think after Cyril and co upheld his sentencing, and when he went to visit winnie, somehow she misled him into believing that he can continue behaving like a b@stard without any consequences, mind you I don't feel sorry for his 'white lawyers' cause they are enabling the likes of malema who are corrupt to continue being corrupt to the detriment of the people these stolen resources was meant to improve their lives, Report Abuse
It is no longer raining, it is pouring cats and dogs Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Femi
@Alutamugal and MasterK
Couldn't agree more! Politics is a very harsh game, He served his purpose without fear of being victimised and he still held his head up high, he conveyed what he stood for.
To Julius Malema
"You are my hero son", even though the so called the intellectual negroes will always downgrade you on passing woodwork, You must never stop learning. The world's greatest men and women were people who educated themselves outside of the university with all the knowledge that the university gives, you also have the opportunity of doing the same thing the university student does --- read and study. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Xovizwe
Malema must learn hard that ANC is not a play ground. You don't do as you like, this is a movement not a tuck-sh0p.
He must take that bunch of his followers and leave the ANC, I doubt the will make it past Shikota though. Or he must go back to Zimpopo and create a tribal political party like Gantsha since his followers are only in that cursed province.
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Moderator - Now sh0p is a vulgar - Where did you learn your English. Report Abuse
@Sakaza
Another one bite the dust, did'nt i told you so panks? (Malema ass kissers) Long Live the African National Congress
-------------------------------------------I now can understand why the Association of National Crooks (anc) would want nothing to do with malema anymore he is disturbing the troughers with his outrageous comments which are clearly upsetting the goose (the rich) responsible to lay the golden eggs for the troughers to plunder, wish that in the same spirit they association of national thieves would also get rid of zuma, so at least we can go back to discussing national politics/issues rather than wasting our energies discussing Dumb & Dumber of the anc. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Sinudeity
Femi - I heard julius failed last year at university. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Wozanami
lol Tupac - you want to play with bible verses?
Matthew 5:22
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
Proverbs 15:18 A hot-tempered man stirs up strife, but he who is slow to anger quiets contention.
1 Timothy 5:1
Never speak harshly to an older man, but appeal to him respectfully as you would to your own father. Talk to younger men as you would to your own brothers.
1Corinthians 14:40: Let all things be done decently and in order. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
RobinH
Sinudeity. Now what a surprise! Thanks for that info. Just last night my son and I were talking about that. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@Xovizwe shem the anc has long become a play ground of militants and the corrupt, the shoving out of malema now is not about the principles the anc once used to held high, is about the survival of the fittest (of course abusing our resources for such pushing and shoving amongst anc regime tax looters), so zuma hold all the cards and malema has outlived his usefulness so he is out, there is no honour amongst thieves, you wanna be corrupt king makers better think long and hard in your next endeavour to create another political monster to the cost of tax payers. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
RaRaga
What career? He does not even have Grade 12 Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Mbeva
@Xovizwe
"Moderator - Now sh0p is a vulgar - Where did you learn your English"
politics are boring.........same thing every year Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@@Alutamugal and MasterK
Couldn't agree more! Politics is a very harsh game, He served his purpose without fear of being victimised and he still held his head up high, he conveyed what he stood for.
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please don't make it out as if malema was all that when he was nothing but a political riff raff who is also a thief the Hawks are investigating him, if you are honest you will condemn malema for stealing from the very same people he professes to fight in their corner, malema is nothing but a wolf in a sheep's skin, and its high time that you and others like you start recognising this and stop idolising crooks to your own detriment, please stop self harming black SAns, you deserve better than being pawn in the political games of the corrupt. Damnit we now have power so please use it for the benefit of your communities which are still very much underdeveloped, please grow some brains malema is nothing but a common thief masquarading as the black child saviour, do you people not get enough education about charlatan like malema? what will it take in order for you lot to LEARN? jeer man Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
zaar
long live the anc...long live our leaders...we as the rightfull owners of this country will soon have the economic freedom, have the land back and claim our mines back, you white racists shouldt continue hoping to take us back to dack days of appartheid while you at it remember this is our land! as proof that white people will never change their attitudes towards us keep reading their comments whenever theres a debate on any political issues, is you keep pushing sooner or later we will push back. dintsha! Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Mbeva
@RaRaga
"What career? He does not even have Grade 12"
Farming. He is going to collect herd of cattle he was given by Zimbabwean Reserve Bank Governor, Gideon Gono in 2010
Grade 12? I heard he got dubious distinctions in Woodwork and Maths in Grade 12.So he attempted it
@zaar spoken like a true ancyl tutti frutti, the ONLY EVER time zealots like you will have economic fr3edom is through studying, that's the ONLY way you can sustain your economic fr3edom, so its pointless threatening white SAns who have since lost power in 1994, and wena inspite of the AA/BEE priviledges you still remain useless and unproductive, and you hope to have economic fr3edom? do you think that's achieved through threats? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
and please zaar and your colleagues who keep making threats I said yesterday, get this over and done with by putting your words into action, I think by now everyone is spoiling to kick some stupid butt like yours, so please urgently bring the fight on. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Mthakati
Julius kwedini
Mna ndithi eli lixesha lokuba ujongane nezifundo zakho, and how far did you go with your studies at UNISA. This time you choose to study or else you jump off the education boat and look after your cattle at home.
imo white people didn't "lose power". SA just gained the power of the whole population.
Eventually everyone will feel the benefits of that. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
TigerEyes
Shawara wa re sokodisa. ZUMA if you mess up with limpopo, its sure case, you out seun. go to NATAL and marry as many wives as you can/ Dancing President/ Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@Wozanami, that is also another way of looking of at it, people can only feel benefits of the power we now all have if people exercise smart options ie education (empowerment) but the ancyl chose to be eternal victims of circumstances even their leaders portray themselves as such, Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Sakaza
@Somaartakeit
Whatever wena noma i don't undestand your point but the ANC will always strive to make South Africa better place for all regasrdless what skin colour you wearing. Yes we do haver our share of mistsakes and we are wiling to learn from them but.
Sinudeity
1tsotsi - "The world suffers alot. Not becausenof violence of bad people, But because of the silence of good people."
Julius wasnt silent :P
But the inverse is true though, he was a bad person.
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Your problem is your obseesion with julius, Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
herbie
Juju your days are over, Stupid and arrogant people always come last in an marathon. There is an old saying it goes like this: People who think they are smart arent always that smart. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
HANDE AF/WEG met my punteleier or baas they can manipulate all the info to make him bad but they wont succeed they need to be real to themselves first before they can be real to us...on that note what happend to that 3.5 million rand donation donated by that criminal Brett Kebble and he wanted it after and the ANC refuse to give it back. JUJUBOY is a small fish lets not put more energy on him Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@TigerEye if you are honest you will first demand that kessel and his looting associates take responsibility for the mess limpopo finds itself in today, it was a good move by the anc to put that province under administration but I don't believe they did that for altruism more than advancing the zumalema fight, which leads me to concl the next premier there will not be appointed on the basis of his/her competencies but if he/she is a zuma lackey, which is really sad cause service delivery should be the driving factor which influences decisions to deploy these ppl, sadly its the poor that will bare the brunt of this anc cadre deployments,
zuma was (long before pirates of polokwane came to play) always an idiot, how you guys ONLY realise this now after so much cost to the tax payers, is another reason SAn voters should bleed anc votes at the up coming gen elections. Cause anc zuma mistake is an unforgivable and a reckless one which shows that your NEC has no ability to exercise good judgement and their bad judgement has cost this country billions which as you know we can ill afford. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
SisterD
even if malemas days are over, politics never die, he will still come back to ANC straight. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
LijahaSisu
We know these NDC, NDCA and NEC committees are packed with Mshowerlozites so their decisions do not reflect the wishes of the masses. The Mshowerlozites are there to protect the Guptas interests, which is maintaining the guptarisation of the ANC. The Young Lions of OR Tambo will take this fight to the branches. There will be casualities along the struggle for economic freedom, Cde Che Malema might be one of them, but come Mangaung the economic freedom fighters will be victorious. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@TCT 3.5mil Brett Kebble donation (to the DA) justifies billions that are stolen from national budget by anc corrupt? I so desperately need you to think like an upright citizen so I can learn to respect your reasoning. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
somaartakeit
what are you on about?who said anything about DA get updated first then we can talk!!!! stop be so quick to answer give yourself an chance to think neh?hehehehehe
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@Somaar
Look around you, and look at the comments on malema articles these days.
A lot of people are no longer blinded by the current yl leader.
Anycl have had many good leaders in the past, mbalula (despite malema's love for him, he has a good head on his shoulders), Gigaba, etc. And better leaders will also follow.
They just have to rid themselves of the attitude malema has instilled, and many have.
@TCT even so, the Kebble bribe or donation can never be used as a justification to loot tax payers in your defense for malema/zuma/anc.
I want you to understand that by you and others like you justifying theft of our national resources you are sinking the poor further into poverty, the money which is being looted could be used to build university so that black children do nto have to die in the stampede trying to access institutions of education, you should be outraged by looting of states resources instead of trying to justify it. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Naked
hang in there malema, you will bounce back, i knw this for sure. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Kenno
@ Comradde Malema might be known worldwide...But as a fool and an ignorant racist.
If you see that as an achievement, then you are as bad as he is!! Wake up! Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
sowetoBotha
Guys is it wrong if an african claims what belongs to africa,for how long are we going to depent on white
economic system when we keep paralysing those who question our economic system which benefit the
individual who stole our land. please south african let us try to be proud and to understand that Juju is right he is trying to to bring back what belongs to us(Mines) Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@Wozanami I agree that one upon a time anc used to have leaders we could proud of, but right now, my issue is the anc allowing our resources to be looted by its populist and corrupt leaders, if malema didn't fall out of favour with the anc big guns he wld still be allowed to loot this country, him and Kessel, wrt Gigaba and Mbalula they like rest of the anc executive team are guilty by association for allowing and abating looting of our national resources, they are also guilty of disgracing this country and its values cause this monster malema was supported and abated by them. This is my main issue here. Malema has led black youth (anc) astray, this is a culture that will need our everything to reverse for this reason the voters of SA have a moral obligation to hold anc leadership accountable for inflicting this upon us and punish them at the ballots, so that in the future they are careful how they behave with power we give them. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
LijahaSisu
@somaartakeit
I want you to understand that by you and others like you justifying theft of our national resources you are sinking the poor further into poverty, the money which is being looted could be used to build university so that black children do nto have to die in the stampede trying to access institutions of education, you should be outraged by looting of states resources instead of trying to justify it.
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That is rich coming from you. You and your ilk clocked more than 400 comments vigorously justifying and defending financial irregularities, corruption, tender fraud etc at Midvaal by the DA which was uncovered by the Public Protector. So Madam you are in no position to lecture us about justifying theft. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Sinudeity
sowetoBotha - No comment on the BLACK government officials that stole your money? And the money meant to buy you land (Landbank).
What is lame, is you f***s blaming whites for everything. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@LijahaSisu show me ONE of my comments which as you allege justified corruption or looting of this country, cause I can not take responsibility for comments made by other DA supporters but I can take responsibility for what I contributed to, so please show me one comment of mine justifying corruption/crime then we can take this further. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
s.cold
@JUBJUB
I dont like this monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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uve said it all,,,,i dont like him either Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
somaartakeit
heheheh can you pls do yourself a favour by taking you time to read and understand my commnet and stop misreading my comment the way you did/do now?
your respond to me give one an impression or imply that i support corruption which i dont,but what i support is equality to all and fair treatment to all politicians.the is nothing im justifying in what i said but encouraging that those who we are not sure how they get there w.ealth need to be targeted too example drug dealers,how many millions/billions are they stealing from our kidsfathers etc DONT you think we have a right to know that? stop it nowwww!!!!!! Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
moshega
Juju is time to know dat in polotics de is no friend, every man for himself and his family. He dumped u like nothing, ke nako ya gore o amogele. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Sinudeity
LijahaSisu - Um...
No, personally I condemned the midvaal corruption. And even took it steps further. Following up on the corruption investigation, and demanding prison sentences. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
s.cold
@JUBJUB
I dont like this monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OK SOWETAN I LIKE HIM HAPPY? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@Naked
hang in there malema, you will bounce back, i knw this for sure.
--------------------------------with a potbelly like he has I have no doubt if falls he will bounce like a soccer ball, lol did you see him on the latest video published yesterday by Sowetan? he looked like he swallowed a soccer ball lol
@TCT what do you mean equality to all politicians, these politicians especially the anc lot are a law unto themselves they regard themselves as ubermenschen of SA, what we should be called for is for the politicians to act like civil servants not primadonnas, they must appreciate the priviledge of being in public office and undertake and execute their responsibilities to us and get us results, and continuous feedback iro the projects they undertake on our behalf, they mustn't be arrogant like that minister in the foreign office who arrogantly didnt' see anything wrong with charting plane for herself cause she didn't want customs officials to search her, and doing so at expense of tax payers without due considering impact of her arrogant actions, and that shiceka who is still at idling at tax payers expense when he should have been fired when he undertook to go visit his drug smuggling girl friend in Swizerland at our expense, zuma should have fired him on the spot, then most of us would be off his case, cause we will see that he is upholding the oath he made in his inauguration, what is so wrong when I expect our leaders to uphold their part of the bargain with us? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
YellowRose2012
Juju you will be missed by many in the media ;-) So long hope you buried some of those millions
they will come in handy pretty soon Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@YellowRose2012 Juju is the terrible political phase of ALL sane SAns, the media was right to show us the public the flaws of juju, the guy was the leader of the youth of this country for God's sake so we had a right to know what character he had, it is going to take forever for the anc to re-establish itself after jujuzuma affair,but maybe God intended for it that way, to remind SAns to NEVER take our democracy for granted. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Moya2006
Zuma, Mr Shower, you again showing your autocracy. It was fine when Malema ridiculed Mbeki for you and u were sitting there with a mimick smile. Now that the guns have turned to u, u are using all the tankers to shut down the very guy who made you what you are today. Without him u were feeling the pressure and u were becoming a ghost. All ANC leaders, although they do not want to say it, but they know that u are wrong and more scared of Malema. If you were not scared of him, why then do u want hem sent of the ANC. Mbeki showed everyone that he was not afraid and accepted that whatever outcome, it was meant to be and never tried in anyone to charge Malema with these stupid and idiotic accusations. You are silly and dumb, a coward who is scared to face challenge>!! Out with you Zuma Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
LijahaSisu
@somaartakeit
You know very well that I don't save your comments therefore cannot produce them. The fact remains that you tried very hard to justify the Midvaal fiasco. You even went further to say the DA was gonna take action against the implicated individuals. So now you are trying to hide behind some technicalities. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Man-of-the-match-10111
Something tells me dat after the ordeal of the apartheid we still find ourselves in need of a revolutionary...but da question still lingers in my mind dat why everytime a revolutionist arises the anc tries to close doors for them...is the anc dat we supporting wants revolutionary or they're just mere politician wearing revolutionary shirts. Zuma is got i don knw how many wives "lost counting" using tax money, billions of rands every year but he has the nerve to say malema is immature...talk of blind leading the blind. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@LijahaSisu is that your defense for the allegation you made about me? LoL all you needed to do was to search Sowetan article whereby you claim I supported corruption, ie Midvaal article you mentioned that would have sufficed, but you know you were not telling the truth so you come up with an excuse that you don't save my messages, and btw I have no need nor reason to hide behind 'tecnicalities' cause my conscience is clear iro my stance on ANTI-corruption and general maladministration of gov resources everyone here who reads my comments knows this, so I never need to justify myself to you. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Man-of-the-match-10111
@Moya2006.....well put ma brother. Zuma is actually not comfortable with Malema being around, now he claims that Malema thought the anc was weak...bulldogs zuma, Malema has always being outspoken even before was elected the youth league president. Zuma just shutup.........nxa Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@Man-of-the-match why do you not understand that zuma like malema is entitled to his opinions iro malema? do you guys think that because he was made by amongst others malema he must now roll over and get screwed as a pay back? I don't even like Mshowerlozi but please you guys be reasonable, malema is of course immature politically and otherwise he has proven himself and exposed this immaturity publicly, I don't know if he doesn't have any advisors or he ever views/reads his immature behaviour/statements displayed for all to see, if anything malema is an embarrassment to the this country especially for those who observed former anc youth league leaders like Madiba, who were inspired by those leader to support SAns against apartheid, zuma is a polokwane mistake, the honours are on you anc ppl incl your NEC to correct this mistake and save this country, that's the ONLY humane thing you guys can do as part of your social responsibility to this citizens of this country. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
anyway nuff said for the day about Dumb & Dumber of the anc, now off to more brain stimulating stuff, whilst I strongly urge you anc supporters to have a heart and brains and save this country from the polokwane mistake you dunked the rest of us to, kick malema out and recall zuma, surely you can multi-task? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
somaartakeit
for the sake of accuracy DO NOT ASSUME SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO knowleadge of,however you can raise your opinion but dont just conclude things without having facts or evidency to cover your story.
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ive realised that you dont care about the processes that need to be conducted first to deal with the individuals laws and policies need to be respected and used as a guidline to deal with the attitude or behaviour of a person or employee or politician.investigation are the starting point gathering info that is needed for that particular incidents.i cant comment on ppl personal lives like you they dont concrn me or you so i wont use it to manipulate the debate.dont judge them on there morality but on ther performance. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
LijahaSisu
@somartakeit
Here are some of your comments Madam regarding the Midvaal fiasco.
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somaartakeit
Eish, I was expecting that alleged 'DA power abuse' involves millions of unaccounted for tax payers money, did Odendaal's company DELIVER service they were contracted for by the Midvaal municipal, YES or NO?
The issue I have with anc tenderpreneurs is that they DON'T DELIVER the service for the state money in the form tenders awarded to them, in this Odendaal case that is not the issue. And if misconduct is being found and proven unlike shiceka, nkabinde, cele, cwele who are still on state salaries, Odendaal will be dealt with, that is the diffs, I think all we expect is accountability, hence I asked DID HE DELIVER on the premise and in accordance with contract?
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DJWinner
@BraSteve...Alteast now we know that DA is also not clean either. They are as corrupt as some ANC officials.
------------------------------------diffs btwn the 2 is that at the DA the corrupt are dealt with as in this case, the DA has already responded with official response to the matter and hopefully they will not keep us waiting for years whilst they as jacob zuma wld put it 'applying their mind' how long did it take zuma to concl the cele shiceka and nkabinde matter?
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somaartakeit
@Sinudeity
KeRataBasadi - Dude fired two days later (20 steps forward).
Lets spot the difference.
------------------------these guys are desperate to find 'corrupt faults' with the DA, hence the measure of 10 steps backward, how can one act which is being addressed result in 10 steps backward? cause the fact that the DA is dealing with the situation should earn them more point if anything.
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for the sake of accuracy DO NOT ASSUME SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO knowleadge of,however you can raise your opinion but dont just conclude things without having facts or evidency to cover your story.
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--------------------------------------------------------------the issue of armsdeals saga does it not prove that anc officials are law unto themselves? does the travelgate count as a fact that anc are the untouchables who given carteblanche to loot SAn tax payers money? I could count so many but in the interest of not causing myself migraine I shall leave you ponder examples given as FACTS to substantiate my position. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
Sinudeity
T.C.T - "dont judge them on there morality but on ther performance."
LOL
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heheheh i know but just dismissing this sister called somaar!!!!!
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somaartakeit
armsdeal was droped bcos of evidence that was found in a wrong way and proved that the was a plot or conspiracy towards ada cadres however correct and necessary channels wer followed to dismiss that case.i dont want to give attention to rumours that are not yet been investigated. Report Abuse
Do you have any comments on the Premier of Limpopo? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Sinudeity
T.C.T - "armsdeal was droped bcos of evidence that was found in a wrong way and proved that the was a plot or conspiracy towards ada cadres however correct and necessary channels wer followed to dismiss that case.i dont want to give attention to rumours that are not yet been investigated."
Not true.
Teh armsdeal investigation was dropped because the government said there was nothing to investigate. Jacob was heading the 'government task team' at the time.
The armsdeal investigation has been reopened. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Mtho'eng'nanqondo
RobinH
Bye Bye Blackbird.
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Why not bye bye bird, why does the bird have to be specific in colour? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Sinudeity
Mtho'eng'nanqondo - Its the name of the song. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@TCT wrt armsdeal saga lol how things have changed since said decision to quash the case was made LOL Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
kutollo13
zuma should understant that if Discipline within the ANC is what is causing Juju his future, then he himself doens't belong to the organisation, he has caused not only the ANC but the whole country a lot, to mention how many times his name has apperead on national and international media for all wrong reasons will take 4ever. He should have been dismised a long time ago, but the same ANC was very patient with him. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@kutollo13 I agree that zuma was supposed to have been dismissed, okay scrap that he should have never been a leader alas malema carried him on his shoulders and gatecrashed him into presidency, thanks to him we have this idiotic president and thanks to zuma we are today having malema in our national discourse. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
DURINGVINIGERTIMES
You wanted to divide the family mfana kuthi Malema. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
hey Senganga247 please pay attention your hero (malema) is being investigated for amongst other crimes 'grabbing a farm for himself' in Limpopo, why didnt' he give this farm to the landless of Limpopo if he cared so much about their plight?
also no one expects the anc to not chant/sloganeer liberation songs but what is LEGALLY not allowed is to chant slogans that are perceived to be inciting racial hatred, so please comrade chant away no one is out to get you as long as what you are chanting is within the constraints of the laws. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
Sinudeity and somaartakeit
He allegedly makes statements, including “Mbeki is my president, he will always be my president”. After Mbeki’s Polokwane defeat, he allegedly said: “We must wipe the blood off our faces … it is time for a come-back strategy.” Also in the recordings:
■McCarthy allegedly refers to Mbeki’s instructions that neither Zuma nor police commissioner Jackie Selebi should be charged before Polokwane, as the perception of victimhood would work to their advantage;
■There was reference to Zuma allegedly reneging on a 2003 deal to retire from politics in exchange for the dropping of the prosecution against him. A Zuma insider told theM&G that there had been such an approach to Zuma, but that it had gone nowhere because he was affronted; and
■There was reference to Mbeki ordering a third draft of the Scorpions’ “Browse Mole” report, which investigated allegedly illicit foreign funding for Zuma, even though Mbeki’s office publicly condemned the report.
Your sentence get reduced then what? Juju do you think Zuma and Manthashe will ever trust you? I said it long time ago that you lack what makes progressive and dynamic leader( amongst some of the things you lack) reading the political scene. Lets say they forgive you and say they give you a year , or they forgive you completely and strip you and your bafoons the leadership of the ANCYL , so how do you think you will come back? Even if they forgive you the Hawks are going to throw you in prison atleast for 3 months if you are that lucky. There is no way the Zumani will let near any position of influence, they wont even let you be a councillor. Your plan with Mbalula,Phosa,Sexwale and others has gone down the drain. Sexwale was a guerrila but he could not coach you on how to ambush Zuma and Mantashe in Mangaung instead of going conventionally with a enemy armed to teeth.
Empty Malema just throw a towel, atleast the people whom constantly attacked, the likes of Holomisa, Mbeki, they never crawled and begged when they were down, it really shows that what you were fighting for was just a cover of achieve more greener pastures in the movement. How many times can you miscalculate? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Ngwijikhwebu
Malema has been booted out for publicly defying the ANC, and for insulting and ridiculing its senior leaders including JZ on numerous occasions. Importantly, he is being fired for his views on succession. That he is being suspended for calling for economic freedom, and for his policy (nationalisation and land redistribution) is just a myth which his supporters would like us to believe so that he can gain some sympathy from the masses.
To borrow from Motlanthe's quote: Juju and his cronies within the ANCYL were intoxicated by past victories.
They (ANCYL) thought they were the "king makers" and hence controlled the entire ANC. They thought they could continue bullying and threatening the ANC as they saw fit. Mhhh... poor Malema and his disciples were very wrong on this one... Interestingly, these loose heads don't want to learn from the past as they continue singing provocative and insensitive songs about Zuma, while hoping for the reduction of their sentences.
On the succession issue, i wonder why they couldn't wait until at least 3/4 months before Mangaung to start canvassing for the change in leadership guard? One wonders why there was so much haste.... Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Nick794
It is important to understand that this issue is not about Malema or those who are said to be supporting him. It's about the organisational pillars of unity of purpose and discipline. No one is and can be above any organisation.
What we are seeing here are effective check and balances that the organisation has. It is an opportunity for Mr Malema to learn from this experience and become a better leader. It's not about Mr Malema and the President, its about organisational unity and discipline and for the organisation to focus on it's fundamental objective, that of liberating our people. Report Abuse
MALEMA is unque he make sure all the option are been exhausted and he do not get tired quickly like those mentioned cadres.why are we so against the right MALEMA is using to solve his case? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@TCT what Mbeki said or didn't say is not in question here, the point is this case is/will be re-opened and zuma is doing his best to prevent this, I read article on M&G abt his defense against such being re-opened, he argues that the re-opening of this case will tarnish his image, does your leader has something to hide? Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
somaartakeit
dont try to be smart why are you now changing the argument we wer talking about channels how to dismiss cases or conduct investigations.and i suggested that zuma case was dismissed or droped bcos of the ways the evidence was received and the judge who was Nicholson said in his findings that the was elements influencing this case and called it political interference.....live mbeki or mg out of our debate and stand your point. Report Abuse
I was NOT talking about channels I said anc officials are above the law you challenged that and asked me to support my 'opinion' I quoted arms-deal case which is being re-opened in the hope to possible trial the guilty parties. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Sinudeity
T.C.T - "Zuma case was dismissed or droped bcos of the ways the evidence was received and the judge who was Nicholson said in his findings that the was elements influencing this case and called it political interference."
I also remember jacob saying that "If I go down Im taking alot of people down with me" and "I was smallfry in the armsdeal".
As for Mbeki, we know about his R30 million that he made from the Armsdeal. The problem here, is that the Zuma case was thrown out, because of Mbek. Purely because one corrupt dude was colluding to have another corrupt dude prosecuted. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Charley4sure
@Ngwijikhwebu
To borrow from Motlanthe's quote: Juju and his cronies within the ANCYL were intoxicated by past victories.
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Even the Devil can site a scripture for his won purpose. Motlanthe is against the disciplinary action,
it was and it is all over the news. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
it is my opinion that armsdeal corrupt case against zuma was dropped because he typifies the SAn ubermeschen I was talking about, the ability by the justice system of this country to re open this case and clear any doubts on individuals guilty or lack there of will give us all a closure to this saga, so we should embrace the process cause we will be better for it. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
RealAfricanDemocrat
Ehe! This is very interesting. A man who is still wanted on charges of fraud and corruption (Jacob Zuma) is running after a young boy (Julius Malema) who is accused of having stolen sweets, popcorn and peanuts. Where is the sense of justice in this? This is clear abuse of political power and in due time is going to backfire big time. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
Sinudeity
T.C.T - Good info.
Mind posting the reference please?
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i dont have the full info my brother thats the peace i got
somaartakeit
you know nothing stop wasting your time about elders games..live politics to us,always complaining fo no reson
Sinudeity
precisely if you extend your memory further he called mbeki as his witness and thats wer the case was dismissed imediatly...you know ur sh.it dude some ladies need to find the way in the kitchen.. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Sinudeity
somaartakeit / T.C.T - Keep on keepin on guys. You both are my forum hero's. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
RobinH
Mtho'eng'nanqondo: Bye Bye Blackbird is the name of a song from the fifties. This is NOT a racial reflection in any way. It is a mild joke.
look sweet girl as much as i love to see that case re-opened whether or not the prosecution was politically m.otivated is irrelevant there is still a legal case to answer and ZUMA must do so and demonstrate once and for all that he as OUR leader is innocent man who has faith in our judiciary to find him innocent according to the facts not by avoiding or ignoring the case the way he does
what i dont admire about your comments/posts you excalate things to suet your theory or imagination and like to be forward without having the knowleadge to equip your argument in short you most of the time respond emotionaly without thinking dont conclude to much my sweety jou lekker ding. im not attacking is just a friendly reminder of who you are in the blogg
@TCT I fully agree with your first para, wrt my alleged lack of knowledge on stuff I comment on here, I guess its a question of you and I agreeing to disagree, cause its a public knowledge the arms-deal and its in public's interests that this matter is put to rest once and for all, also its in the interest of this regime to clear this armsdeal cloud once and for all, that way the DA has no ammo to undermine them with, it's called taking back power, but it seems your leaders (anc) have a great deal lot to hide hence this tangoing with the issue, in their own stupidity not realising that by dragging this matter longer than it should, it further tarnishes their standing in the eyes of the public, I am also pleased that you confirmed you do not support corruption, cause corruption is crime against humanity if one has to take into account consequences in the form of poverty and non deliverance of basic and necessary services. My concl is that zuma must stand trial and clear his name, end of the story.
@Sin, no worries dude I am also awed by your efforts to bring in facts when anc lot are trying to obfuscate by using racism in their attempts at deflecting what needs to be discussed, so thank you for keeping us abreast iro current political dealings:-) Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Manala
So the little twerp is getting his behind kicked by the herd boy.
Serves him right for siding with the devil. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@RAD malema is found guilty of crime charged against the anc by the anc collective not just zuma, yes there is bad blood btwn the 2 but the fact remain malems is being found guilty, and no amount of emotional blackmailing will change this, Cyril Ramaphosa is neither indebted to either malema or zuma camps, I therefore believe his concl on malema's appeal for sentence to be overturned was fair/and or unbiased, you guys must learn to uphold the rules, also even if malema stole stock sweets he still has to answer for that, cause no matter how minor his fraud cases against zuma the consequences have same impact that is, denying the intended (poor) of opportunity to be uplifted from poverty, so for that he is good riddance sorry that it took so long for a man reason like Ramaphosa to end this circus once and for all. Next is for zuma to stand trial and we as a nation put the armsdeal to finality. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
somaartakeit
precisely my babe nice comment too,however reduce name calling such as stupid i admire your fairness now.At the end of the day ZUMA cant avoid the facts standing towards him those facts will remain if he thinks he can dodge his court appearance he just looks guiltier and guiltier evryday if they say there constitution is fair how come they never deal with him just like they do with MALEMA Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@TCT from what I know or heard from some anc top guns malema is an immediate threat to the anc (survival) so he is the first to go, I don't think zuma will be elected for second term cause there are so many in the top echelons of the anc that are against that, but we will have to wait and see.
Also the anc have not forgiven zuma for losing them votes the anc also knows what's at stake if zuma is given second term, so I don't think they are foolish enough to take that gamble, but right now they have to show a united front against the immediate threat. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
you will not believe that non of the top anc guns are keen to take us into their confidence iro how we ended with zuma for president everyone will have you know that its not his/her decisions and that they were against it from the onset, the only unfortunate thing is that this charade is real and is costing SA a lot the anc should have a courage to call zuma in and tell him it was a mistake and he should stand down, if he resigns on his own accord it would not be so much embarrassment for the anc rather than waiting for the fall out at Manguang I mean how much one party can take before it all falls to irreparable pieces? zuma should have consideration for the anc as a party if he really cares for it so much and remove himself from presidency cause he knows he has failed not only the anc but the country, if truth be told. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
somaartakeit
ZUMA was done a favor by ANC to bcum a president bcos cadres wer tired by the chieftancy style MBEKI used wen he wanted 3rd term and that time PPL wer thnking and conviced that the was a plot towards ZUMA not to be a president and that time no one was an OPTION and ANC settled with ZUMA
MALEMA is just a thread to there confort zone and they know the influence he has towards youth they are not prepared to take risk honestly speaking MALEMA can mobilze huge crowd to destroy zuma,gwede etc jst relax and watch Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Makhosini0408
5, 4, 3, 2, someone's time is up. Political oblivion is a bitter pill to swallow and Malema has one person to blame, its unfortunately, Julius Malema, his worst enemy. If I was his lawyer, I was going to plead, ignorance, since the ANC, decided in his first DC, that he needs political education. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
CYBORICO
@TCT
MALEMA is just a thread to there confort zone and they know the influence he has towards youth they are not prepared to take risk honestly speaking MALEMA can mobilze huge crowd to destroy zuma,gwede etc jst relax and watch
Dream on dreamer, like many of your felaz, eyes closed, head deep in the sand and whistling "dont worry be happy", Man sh.it just hit the fan u s'pose to take cover not act like all is ok.
can somebody please shake this guys ,maybe they'll wake up and start to smell the fire. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
somaartakeit
@TCT malema is ONLY a threat cause the anc fails to deliver on youth issues such as high unemployment and education (empowerment), so the anc together with zuma created this monstrosity for us, malema raises real issues to which even I his worse critic agree to, but its in the "HOW" he raises such that is an issue, and to blame whites for these issues he is being ambiguous cause the anc as a ruling party has the power to address the youth issues but they have no will power or political will to do so as they are too busy being corrupt, if I were to tell you the scale of corruption in every section of this gov you will understand why nobody is saying hey guys let's find plans to kick start projects to rejuvenate economy and empower the youth, I am so angry with the anc cause all this we expect of them is doable its no a rock science, they are waiting for or are too vision-less to see that if more are desperately poor this will lead us to civil unrest, cause ppl who have nothing to lose why should they be expected to remain calm and patient just to respect interests of the elite?
My problem with Malema TCT is that, he also has no vision/nor plan to change this horrific picture with catalog of broken promises, so he shouldn't pretend he has a plan cause that is misleading and if the youth of this country found themselves in the unemployment dilemma in 20yrs time there will be hell to pay for all of us. So I want for leaders to thread careful and not raise hopes unrealistically, especially if they know they have no intentions to deliver on said promises.
I think the first step wld be to engage all stakeholders concerned with the aim to facilitate development of the youth OF ALL RACES for the benefit of not ONLY themselves but the COUNTRY, we must curtail gov tenderpreneurs cause they are working contrary to what we shld achieve as a nation. Lastly SAn voters must be pro-active not passive iro holding leaders to account and participation on deliverabilities, we must engage with public representatives and give them a road map on what must be done and by that must be achieved, other nations that are functional are doing this already cause they have long since figured out that politicians performed better when cornered. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
CYBORICO
the anc knows how much they lost support since Juju and Jz entered the scene, Prior to Juju the so called Juju fans were ANC voters, due to Juju's diarhea mouth the anc is currently loosing its real supporters, which is, those who dont follow certain indiv but the anc itself, and the bigger potion is of those who are sick of corruption and mismngmnt of gov funds Hence to stand a chance at the next pols, they needed to deal with the immediate threats which is Juju and corruption,
halleluja they have already suspended the bug and an inquiry has been innitiated on corrupt officials. he will be a strong man to survive both processes hence I say we have done burried him, Gwede and Jz studied on k.illing Juju's sick political career Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
T.C.T
CYBORICO
you are the real thing CYBORICO or CYBORG>>>>>>>>if you dont agree with wat im saying pls back up your comment
somaartakeit
bravooo my sister no need for me to mess it up you have covered all the critical points and hilited wat we all see...mmmhhhh you see how it is easy to agree without assuming?m speechless
@TigerEyes
Katse e hwa e ke ngapetse. right on JUJU. go on home boy. Motlanthe for Pres
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Tltltltltltl......huuuuu, hae waitse some of the comments dika go fetsa matla...!
@TigerEyes, ore a etseng? A ke ngapele....Lol....you killing me...! Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
Senganga247
somaartakeit
hey Senganga247 please pay attention your hero (malema) is being investigated for amongst other crimes 'grabbing a farm for himself' in Limpopo, why didnt' he give this farm to the landless of Limpopo if he cared so much about their plight?
also no one expects the anc to not chant/sloganeer liberation songs but what is LEGALLY not allowed is to chant slogans that are perceived to be inciting racial hatred, so please comrade chant away no one is out to get you as long as what you are chanting is within the constraints of the laws.
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Malema has been investigated more than 8yrs now and to this time He was never arrested for anything. Last time He was to be arrested when He came back from Mauritius. Dont be surprised when another newspaper run juicy news and say Malema is investigated for killing a cat belonging to Mulder and you would believe it. They know these are the only stories that excite you to buy newspapers. These accusation are faceless.
On the struggle songs, tell me of one struggle song that does not relate to arms and bringing down the regime of the past? The song "HAMBA KAHLE MKHONDO" which is sang when a liberation soldier dies speaks of killing boers. All these songs including Dubul' ibunu must be protected. They are just liberation song now and nothing else. Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
mabasozan
bye JUJU bye, if you can't beat MSHOLOZI JOIN HIM....HA HA!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Why not bye bye bird, why does the bird have to be specific in colour?
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Sinudeity
Mtho'eng'nanqondo - Its the name of the song
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RobinH
Mtho'eng'nanqondo: Bye Bye Blackbird is the name of a song from the fifties. This is NOT a racial reflection in any way. It is a mild joke
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It does not come as a surprise the you listen to racist songs!!!
@tigereyes
my brotha, ZUMA isrespected internationally, so if u say that he must leave limpopo alone, with pleasure booitjie, anyway he wil win even without yo stupid limpopo and yo simple minded malema. Report Abuse
JUJU o re segeshitje ka batho, you were radical and brave, and now you overdose the prescription, to regain that momentum and energy you need to slow down and beg the NEC FOR MERCY, who know God is miraculous, we are praying for your mental discovery and please to attend anger management sessions at your spare time now that you have all the time in the world its time to remedy your situation Report Abuse
Feb 16, 2012
P4T
Ag shame poor ANC. Unfortunately the resultant of all these fiascos the party is going to lose votes at the polls. Instead of the party focusing on service delivery for the electorate and the country, it's entangled itself in JZ vs JM boxing bout, giving DA ammunition to strategize in countering on ANC's weaknesses. Is/Are there no voice/s of reason in the ANC to stop both JZ and JM ruining the party?
Gone are the days where people in the ANC put the party first before any self interest or that of the masses. WE MOURN.
Abantu on the ground banibhekile nobabili futhi akuzona iziphukuphuku. Abantu bayakhala bafuna uxolo kukhongolose nentuthuko emiphakathini hayi ubakubangisana.
Sinudeity : live that money which is stolen by my people consider to give up south african natural resource and vamuse Zuma was right Juju is our future leader who just need to be capacitated with political education leave that man alone en wena live the country. Report Abuse
Feb 17, 2012
noto
Julius wont fall ,zuma will.Take my words.. Report Abuse
Feb 18, 2012
S'ponono
If only they had fixed that rubbish in his trousers Juju would have been rehabilitated by now...... Report Abuse
Feb 20, 2012
Ndele01
What an opportunist. He wants the poor and desperate to help him take from those who are working very hard every day. His greed is now not limited to Limpopo any more but he wants the money from the mines too - just like his mentor Mugabe. He is trying to do this by creating disruption in the country where we are trying to buildit for the future - he will use the poor and kick them off his expensive Sandton house's pavement once he has gained access to mine money. Report Abuse
Mar 1, 2012
1Leswika
What goes around come around. Ke polotiki, nnete ge e le yona ga eyo. Only convenience works. Report Abuse
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MorenaWaPolelo
The gloves are off I see......Report Abuse
Sinudeity
Sorry Julius, Motlanthe might be the next president, but the ANC is not the future of this country.You can throw your white-h@te temper-tantrums as much as you want to, it aint going to keep you out of prison.
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RobinH
Bye Bye Blackbird.Report Abuse
Kgaoza606
" I think that's why the ANC can no longer do what it did at the beginning because it needs to act, and act resolutely,"And when you act Mr Zuma please don't forget to also remove that greedy Castle Mathale as he messed up Limpopo province by stealing our (tax payers) money to enrich himself through tender irregularities.
Of course all if not most politicians do steal one way or another especially through tenders but the guy and Juju just went way way overboard!!!
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Charley4sure
Enough Sowetan, this is old news. U also forgot to include this statement:"The decision has divided the party's top six officials, with Phosa, deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe and deputy secretary general Thandi Modise favouring a political solution to the matter while Mantashe, Zuma and ANC chairperson Baleka Mbete prefer disciplinary action".
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von-matimu
never liked juju but i respect his charecter for believing in what he bilieve-in without fear of being rejected.Report Abuse
Traveljunie
Where are all the Juju lovers? Look at him and watch how stupid hurts.Send him to Zim and let the mimdless followers go with him, ta-ta Juju!!
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Ndese1
Zuma is patient guy and whenever he acts, he does that decisively. Zuma once said it is easier to call yourself a revolutionary whilst you didn't do nothing to call yourself one. I don't Motlathe contesting Zuma in the coming elections. Zuma will prove wrong his foe within the ANC. Malema is over. Zuma for presidentReport Abuse
Diva7
Julius vs. Jacob. Can't say I didn't see this coming.Report Abuse
junejuly
Juju my bro ,this is the end of the road for you. why can't you give up eh?Report Abuse
BlackPumkin
Okay I'm tired ....Can’t take any more news on JUJU, really. if he was not here Sowetan how would you sell your paper? I guess we would be buying a 2 paged paper?Report Abuse
FANK
hmm..I'm sure if malema dies today there will be no sowetan and editors will be out of job..Report Abuse
JUBJUB
I dont like this monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
FANK
@ Charley4sureWell said we will see what the decision the mother body will take and the impact afterall
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Makhosini0408
His T- shirts should read: Made in Luthuli House by the ANC for the sole purpose of recalling Mbeki and after that he became to big for his boots. The ANC created this monster, chickens are home to roost.Report Abuse
Gudguy
Journalist: So, Julius, we hear you are a bread winner in the Malema family!JuJu: You see! people like saying all these sorts of things about me and its fine. Anyone who claims that I'm a bread winner must come forward with evidence and prove to the people that indeed, I entered a bread competition. According to my knowledge, I have never entered any bread competition. Bring the evidence - I'm not afraid
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Tango
The is no way out Juju.Viva Zuma viva till 2019Report Abuse
Mopedipedi
Shame...Report Abuse
TupacAmaru
Matthew 510 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for their's is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
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Sinudeity
SteveBiko - This country wount be ruled by the evil ANC much longer dude. Wake up and smell the sewage flowing from your open toilet.Report Abuse
DimitriusTsafendas
@TupacAmaruWe need to leave Jesus out of the whole thing bro. This scumbag fatass Julius might have built a church but he has never set his foot in it since. He's been persecuted for good reasons.
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BaleliM
Biting the hand that feeds you is definately not a good idea.Report Abuse
Papage
ANC must clean itself up and stop making noise, if they get rit of ANCYL Leaders, they must do that and move on, we can't keep on hearing depresing stories all the time, we tired of their voices.Report Abuse
Femi
So Malema was not bringing the party into disrepute when he was calling Thabo Mbeki a dead snake because it was all in Zuma's favour. For Zuma to quote that the ANC can no longer do what it did at the beginning because it needs to act referring to the party's failure to enforce the sanctions imposed on Malema does leaves very little to de desired. I really don't think this guy deserves a second term.Report Abuse
Ndese1
Who will emerge as winner between Zuma and Malema. Zuma is coming with 50% ANC members from KZN. Does Malema stand a chance, we shall see?Report Abuse
OPZAZA
@TUPACAMARUPLEASE BOSS, LEAVE THE BIBLE OUT OF THIS, PLEASE. AND MORE OVER, ALL YOUR THE VERSES YOU QUOTED HAVE THE WORD "PERSECUTED", I WONDER IF YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE TO PROOF THAT JUJU IS BEING PERSECUTED. LETS RESPECT GOD AND THE BIBLE.
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Bolander
Both Zuma and JM need to go - who though can we trust to do what's right for our country - and our youth - someone with honour, integrity and that is a servant to the people, not a tick that sucks the blood of our nation? Is there anyone out there with these qualities or are they all out there for the "power" and the money? My opinion is that if Zuma stays, our country is only going to slide backwards and become "another african failure" - it is very important that the right president (for both our country and YL's) are selected NOW, so we can ensure that the foundations are built for a truly prosperous country over the next 20 to 30 years. Any suggestions?Report Abuse
1tsotsi
The world suffers alot. Not becausenof violence of bad people, But because of the silence of good people. Silencing the voice of the YL wont solve any problems we are having, the reason jacob does that his covering his tracks of failure to deliver to the people.Report Abuse
Alutamugal
Juju the mafia does not want you anymore,please for the sake of your life & family just be reasonable, forget about them because you must rememer they can eliminate you. As much as you are corrupted,they are far more worse than you becasue they sold us out to the imperial. Whatever agreements they have with apartheid state ensured that a black person will be liberated after another hundred years! You must now go back to your home town (Limpopo), take care of your cattle & farm. Stay away from this people, please stay away one thing for sure HISTORY WILL JUDGE THEM VERY HARSH...Report Abuse
NJHOMBI
juju my man this is not the end of the world there's life out there without ancReport Abuse
MasterK
All can be said n done but comrade Julius has written his name in the history books of our country n the ANC. Everyone is guilty in the ANC but tough for Julius he is a victim of those in power.....a lot of people needs discipline in the top ANC leadership.They should all get a life coz malema sees it all n they know he can play their game very well.
Sis ANC sis....U damaging the character of our movement.
I am ANC
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maphakisa.com
There are policies within each organisation and one has to abide by them ortherwise go and join Buthelezi and lekotaReport Abuse
Commrade
@Funk you spoke like fair person, let us wait n c what de out come of the meeting is!!!!!!!!!!!@Ndese1 its not over till de decision is taken u will b suprised...
@Traveljunie i'm 110% behind Presiden Malema Boss, nd point of correction we not Juju lovers we Juju Malema Followers cuz his is League President n he understand de struggle nd demovement do u...? @Sinudeity ANC is still going to rule i think 4 de next coming 50yrs or more gurranted.
Commrades let us put our feeling for Malema aside nd look @ de facts Malema iz not perfect like u "yes" those who dont like him...............but he is de greate leader he de only youth who cant speak his mind out loud no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Malema suspended or not he will always have a significent role to play in dis countries politics n de parties Movement"ANC" Viva Julius viva............
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Sinudeity
1tsotsi - "The world suffers alot. Not becausenof violence of bad people, But because of the silence of good people."Julius wasnt silent :P
But the inverse is true though, he was a bad person.
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RobinH
Tupac: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Thanks for the morning chuckle.Report Abuse
Mbeva
Zuma currently describes the youth leader as "a loser in the making and someone who would be worthy exitting from the ANC".Report Abuse
PDreamz
Malema's uphill battle to save his career////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
LOL which career is that? being an @rse? oohhh for sure fight bomba fight but it comes natural to you so CLASS DISMISSED no future for you in ANC
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PDreamz
@TupacAmaruYou really are funny
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Sakaza
Another one bite the dust, did'nt i told you so panks? (Malema ass kissers) Long Live the African National CongressReport Abuse
TigerEyes
Katse e hwa e ke ngapetse. right on JUJU. go on home boy. Motlanthe for PresReport Abuse
Commrade
@Sinudeity u telling the truth just like it is................@MasterK Boss whether they like it or not Malema made his Trade Mark not only ko Mzansi but World Wide!!!!!!!!@maphakisa.com what policies do the people whom u refering to understand what a policy is" " maphakisa i'm a proud ANC member 4 life i change a party b'cuz of people who wants to silence the voice of the Youth....sorry to disappoint you we going no where...............
guys.............. please base you facts on politics not on individuals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! let us debate abt politics not personal feeling..............
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somaartakeit
it is becoming very difficult for one to not be tempted to say that malema is fully deserving of what's coming to him, and even when he is in the hole he keeps digging (like his odorous racist comment of yesterday), malema is a fool and the other side are capitalising on that, malema is also giving them enough ammunition to nail him, its going to be an uphill battle for his lawyers to fight to save his career, I don't envy their jobs.I also think that winnie has something to do with malema's latest racist rant, its her influence, cause if malema was taking it serious the DC and the harm his thoughtless rants are doing to the anc, he would restrain himself, I think after Cyril and co upheld his sentencing, and when he went to visit winnie, somehow she misled him into believing that he can continue behaving like a b@stard without any consequences, mind you I don't feel sorry for his 'white lawyers' cause they are enabling the likes of malema who are corrupt to continue being corrupt to the detriment of the people these stolen resources was meant to improve their lives,
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SeshegoGuY
Enough Already.........Eish!!Report Abuse
Mbeva
It is no longer raining, it is pouring cats and dogsReport Abuse
Femi
@Alutamugal and MasterKCouldn't agree more! Politics is a very harsh game, He served his purpose without fear of being victimised and he still held his head up high, he conveyed what he stood for.
To Julius Malema
"You are my hero son", even though the so called the intellectual negroes will always downgrade you on passing woodwork, You must never stop learning. The world's greatest men and women were people who educated themselves outside of the university with all the knowledge that the university gives, you also have the opportunity of doing the same thing the university student does --- read and study.
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Xovizwe
Malema must learn hard that ANC is not a play ground. You don't do as you like, this is a movement not a tuck-sh0p.He must take that bunch of his followers and leave the ANC, I doubt the will make it past Shikota though. Or he must go back to Zimpopo and create a tribal political party like Gantsha since his followers are only in that cursed province.
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Moderator - Now sh0p is a vulgar - Where did you learn your English.
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Hlosbile
ia uJuju akayozi hanga manjeReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@SakazaAnother one bite the dust, did'nt i told you so panks? (Malema ass kissers) Long Live the African National Congress
-------------------------------------------I now can understand why the Association of National Crooks (anc) would want nothing to do with malema anymore he is disturbing the troughers with his outrageous comments which are clearly upsetting the goose (the rich) responsible to lay the golden eggs for the troughers to plunder, wish that in the same spirit they association of national thieves would also get rid of zuma, so at least we can go back to discussing national politics/issues rather than wasting our energies discussing Dumb & Dumber of the anc.
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Sinudeity
Femi - I heard julius failed last year at university.Report Abuse
Wozanami
lol Tupac - you want to play with bible verses?Matthew 5:22
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
Proverbs 15:18 A hot-tempered man stirs up strife, but he who is slow to anger quiets contention.
1 Timothy 5:1
Never speak harshly to an older man, but appeal to him respectfully as you would to your own father. Talk to younger men as you would to your own brothers.
1Corinthians 14:40: Let all things be done decently and in order.
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RobinH
Sinudeity. Now what a surprise! Thanks for that info. Just last night my son and I were talking about that.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Xovizwe shem the anc has long become a play ground of militants and the corrupt, the shoving out of malema now is not about the principles the anc once used to held high, is about the survival of the fittest (of course abusing our resources for such pushing and shoving amongst anc regime tax looters), so zuma hold all the cards and malema has outlived his usefulness so he is out, there is no honour amongst thieves, you wanna be corrupt king makers better think long and hard in your next endeavour to create another political monster to the cost of tax payers.Report Abuse
RaRaga
What career? He does not even have Grade 12Report Abuse
Mbeva
@Xovizwe"Moderator - Now sh0p is a vulgar - Where did you learn your English"
The aftermath of Bantu education
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Keafixa
politics are boring.........same thing every yearReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@@Alutamugal and MasterKCouldn't agree more! Politics is a very harsh game, He served his purpose without fear of being victimised and he still held his head up high, he conveyed what he stood for.
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please don't make it out as if malema was all that when he was nothing but a political riff raff who is also a thief the Hawks are investigating him, if you are honest you will condemn malema for stealing from the very same people he professes to fight in their corner, malema is nothing but a wolf in a sheep's skin, and its high time that you and others like you start recognising this and stop idolising crooks to your own detriment, please stop self harming black SAns, you deserve better than being pawn in the political games of the corrupt. Damnit we now have power so please use it for the benefit of your communities which are still very much underdeveloped, please grow some brains malema is nothing but a common thief masquarading as the black child saviour, do you people not get enough education about charlatan like malema? what will it take in order for you lot to LEARN? jeer man
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zaar
long live the anc...long live our leaders...we as the rightfull owners of this country will soon have the economic freedom, have the land back and claim our mines back, you white racists shouldt continue hoping to take us back to dack days of appartheid while you at it remember this is our land! as proof that white people will never change their attitudes towards us keep reading their comments whenever theres a debate on any political issues, is you keep pushing sooner or later we will push back. dintsha!Report Abuse
Mbeva
@RaRaga"What career? He does not even have Grade 12"
Farming. He is going to collect herd of cattle he was given by Zimbabwean Reserve Bank Governor, Gideon Gono in 2010
Grade 12? I heard he got dubious distinctions in Woodwork and Maths in Grade 12.So he attempted it
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somaartakeit
@zaar spoken like a true ancyl tutti frutti, the ONLY EVER time zealots like you will have economic fr3edom is through studying, that's the ONLY way you can sustain your economic fr3edom, so its pointless threatening white SAns who have since lost power in 1994, and wena inspite of the AA/BEE priviledges you still remain useless and unproductive, and you hope to have economic fr3edom? do you think that's achieved through threats?Report Abuse
somaartakeit
and please zaar and your colleagues who keep making threats I said yesterday, get this over and done with by putting your words into action, I think by now everyone is spoiling to kick some stupid butt like yours, so please urgently bring the fight on.Report Abuse
Mthakati
Julius kwediniMna ndithi eli lixesha lokuba ujongane nezifundo zakho, and how far did you go with your studies at UNISA. This time you choose to study or else you jump off the education boat and look after your cattle at home.
Rona rea Vaya and wena uyasala kwedini.
Khawuziqoqoshe Mfo!
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Wozanami
imo white people didn't "lose power". SA just gained the power of the whole population.Eventually everyone will feel the benefits of that.
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TigerEyes
Shawara wa re sokodisa. ZUMA if you mess up with limpopo, its sure case, you out seun. go to NATAL and marry as many wives as you can/ Dancing President/Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Wozanami, that is also another way of looking of at it, people can only feel benefits of the power we now all have if people exercise smart options ie education (empowerment) but the ancyl chose to be eternal victims of circumstances even their leaders portray themselves as such,Report Abuse
Sakaza
@SomaartakeitWhatever wena noma i don't undestand your point but the ANC will always strive to make South Africa better place for all regasrdless what skin colour you wearing. Yes we do haver our share of mistsakes and we are wiling to learn from them but.
Amandla, awethu!!
iAfrica mayibuye!!!
Antil than Exedos is on
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RaRaga
@ MbevaKo night school
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1tsotsi
Sinudeity1tsotsi - "The world suffers alot. Not becausenof violence of bad people, But because of the silence of good people."
Julius wasnt silent :P
But the inverse is true though, he was a bad person.
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Your problem is your obseesion with julius,
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herbie
Juju your days are over, Stupid and arrogant people always come last in an marathon. There is an old saying it goes like this: People who think they are smart arent always that smart.Report Abuse
T.C.T
HANDE AF/WEG met my punteleier or baas they can manipulate all the info to make him bad but they wont succeed they need to be real to themselves first before they can be real to us...on that note what happend to that 3.5 million rand donation donated by that criminal Brett Kebble and he wanted it after and the ANC refuse to give it back. JUJUBOY is a small fish lets not put more energy on himReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@TigerEye if you are honest you will first demand that kessel and his looting associates take responsibility for the mess limpopo finds itself in today, it was a good move by the anc to put that province under administration but I don't believe they did that for altruism more than advancing the zumalema fight, which leads me to concl the next premier there will not be appointed on the basis of his/her competencies but if he/she is a zuma lackey, which is really sad cause service delivery should be the driving factor which influences decisions to deploy these ppl, sadly its the poor that will bare the brunt of this anc cadre deployments,zuma was (long before pirates of polokwane came to play) always an idiot, how you guys ONLY realise this now after so much cost to the tax payers, is another reason SAn voters should bleed anc votes at the up coming gen elections. Cause anc zuma mistake is an unforgivable and a reckless one which shows that your NEC has no ability to exercise good judgement and their bad judgement has cost this country billions which as you know we can ill afford.
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SisterD
even if malemas days are over, politics never die, he will still come back to ANC straight.Report Abuse
LijahaSisu
We know these NDC, NDCA and NEC committees are packed with Mshowerlozites so their decisions do not reflect the wishes of the masses. The Mshowerlozites are there to protect the Guptas interests, which is maintaining the guptarisation of the ANC. The Young Lions of OR Tambo will take this fight to the branches. There will be casualities along the struggle for economic freedom, Cde Che Malema might be one of them, but come Mangaung the economic freedom fighters will be victorious.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@TCT 3.5mil Brett Kebble donation (to the DA) justifies billions that are stolen from national budget by anc corrupt? I so desperately need you to think like an upright citizen so I can learn to respect your reasoning.Report Abuse
T.C.T
somaartakeitwhat are you on about?who said anything about DA get updated first then we can talk!!!! stop be so quick to answer give yourself an chance to think neh?hehehehehe
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Wozanami
@SomaarLook around you, and look at the comments on malema articles these days.
A lot of people are no longer blinded by the current yl leader.
Anycl have had many good leaders in the past, mbalula (despite malema's love for him, he has a good head on his shoulders), Gigaba, etc. And better leaders will also follow.
They just have to rid themselves of the attitude malema has instilled, and many have.
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somaartakeit
@TCT even so, the Kebble bribe or donation can never be used as a justification to loot tax payers in your defense for malema/zuma/anc.I want you to understand that by you and others like you justifying theft of our national resources you are sinking the poor further into poverty, the money which is being looted could be used to build university so that black children do nto have to die in the stampede trying to access institutions of education, you should be outraged by looting of states resources instead of trying to justify it.
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Naked
hang in there malema, you will bounce back, i knw this for sure.Report Abuse
Kenno
@ Comradde Malema might be known worldwide...But as a fool and an ignorant racist.If you see that as an achievement, then you are as bad as he is!! Wake up!
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sowetoBotha
Guys is it wrong if an african claims what belongs to africa,for how long are we going to depent on whiteeconomic system when we keep paralysing those who question our economic system which benefit the
individual who stole our land. please south african let us try to be proud and to understand that Juju is right he is trying to to bring back what belongs to us(Mines)
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somaartakeit
@Wozanami I agree that one upon a time anc used to have leaders we could proud of, but right now, my issue is the anc allowing our resources to be looted by its populist and corrupt leaders, if malema didn't fall out of favour with the anc big guns he wld still be allowed to loot this country, him and Kessel, wrt Gigaba and Mbalula they like rest of the anc executive team are guilty by association for allowing and abating looting of our national resources, they are also guilty of disgracing this country and its values cause this monster malema was supported and abated by them. This is my main issue here. Malema has led black youth (anc) astray, this is a culture that will need our everything to reverse for this reason the voters of SA have a moral obligation to hold anc leadership accountable for inflicting this upon us and punish them at the ballots, so that in the future they are careful how they behave with power we give them.Report Abuse
LijahaSisu
@somaartakeitI want you to understand that by you and others like you justifying theft of our national resources you are sinking the poor further into poverty, the money which is being looted could be used to build university so that black children do nto have to die in the stampede trying to access institutions of education, you should be outraged by looting of states resources instead of trying to justify it.
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That is rich coming from you. You and your ilk clocked more than 400 comments vigorously justifying and defending financial irregularities, corruption, tender fraud etc at Midvaal by the DA which was uncovered by the Public Protector. So Madam you are in no position to lecture us about justifying theft.
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Sinudeity
sowetoBotha - No comment on the BLACK government officials that stole your money? And the money meant to buy you land (Landbank).What is lame, is you f***s blaming whites for everything.
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somaartakeit
@LijahaSisu show me ONE of my comments which as you allege justified corruption or looting of this country, cause I can not take responsibility for comments made by other DA supporters but I can take responsibility for what I contributed to, so please show me one comment of mine justifying corruption/crime then we can take this further.Report Abuse
s.cold
@JUBJUBI dont like this monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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uve said it all,,,,i dont like him either
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T.C.T
somaartakeitheheheh can you pls do yourself a favour by taking you time to read and understand my commnet and stop misreading my comment the way you did/do now?
your respond to me give one an impression or imply that i support corruption which i dont,but what i support is equality to all and fair treatment to all politicians.the is nothing im justifying in what i said but encouraging that those who we are not sure how they get there w.ealth need to be targeted too example drug dealers,how many millions/billions are they stealing from our kidsfathers etc DONT you think we have a right to know that? stop it nowwww!!!!!!
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moshega
Juju is time to know dat in polotics de is no friend, every man for himself and his family. He dumped u like nothing, ke nako ya gore o amogele.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
LijahaSisu - Um...No, personally I condemned the midvaal corruption. And even took it steps further. Following up on the corruption investigation, and demanding prison sentences.
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s.cold
@JUBJUBI dont like this monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OK SOWETAN I LIKE HIM HAPPY?
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somaartakeit
@Nakedhang in there malema, you will bounce back, i knw this for sure.
--------------------------------with a potbelly like he has I have no doubt if falls he will bounce like a soccer ball, lol did you see him on the latest video published yesterday by Sowetan? he looked like he swallowed a soccer ball lol
@TCT what do you mean equality to all politicians, these politicians especially the anc lot are a law unto themselves they regard themselves as ubermenschen of SA, what we should be called for is for the politicians to act like civil servants not primadonnas, they must appreciate the priviledge of being in public office and undertake and execute their responsibilities to us and get us results, and continuous feedback iro the projects they undertake on our behalf, they mustn't be arrogant like that minister in the foreign office who arrogantly didnt' see anything wrong with charting plane for herself cause she didn't want customs officials to search her, and doing so at expense of tax payers without due considering impact of her arrogant actions, and that shiceka who is still at idling at tax payers expense when he should have been fired when he undertook to go visit his drug smuggling girl friend in Swizerland at our expense, zuma should have fired him on the spot, then most of us would be off his case, cause we will see that he is upholding the oath he made in his inauguration, what is so wrong when I expect our leaders to uphold their part of the bargain with us?
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YellowRose2012
Juju you will be missed by many in the media ;-) So long hope you buried some of those millionsthey will come in handy pretty soon
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somaartakeit
@YellowRose2012 Juju is the terrible political phase of ALL sane SAns, the media was right to show us the public the flaws of juju, the guy was the leader of the youth of this country for God's sake so we had a right to know what character he had, it is going to take forever for the anc to re-establish itself after jujuzuma affair,but maybe God intended for it that way, to remind SAns to NEVER take our democracy for granted.Report Abuse
Moya2006
Zuma, Mr Shower, you again showing your autocracy. It was fine when Malema ridiculed Mbeki for you and u were sitting there with a mimick smile. Now that the guns have turned to u, u are using all the tankers to shut down the very guy who made you what you are today. Without him u were feeling the pressure and u were becoming a ghost. All ANC leaders, although they do not want to say it, but they know that u are wrong and more scared of Malema. If you were not scared of him, why then do u want hem sent of the ANC. Mbeki showed everyone that he was not afraid and accepted that whatever outcome, it was meant to be and never tried in anyone to charge Malema with these stupid and idiotic accusations. You are silly and dumb, a coward who is scared to face challenge>!! Out with you ZumaReport Abuse
LijahaSisu
@somaartakeitYou know very well that I don't save your comments therefore cannot produce them. The fact remains that you tried very hard to justify the Midvaal fiasco. You even went further to say the DA was gonna take action against the implicated individuals. So now you are trying to hide behind some technicalities.
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Man-of-the-match-10111
Something tells me dat after the ordeal of the apartheid we still find ourselves in need of a revolutionary...but da question still lingers in my mind dat why everytime a revolutionist arises the anc tries to close doors for them...is the anc dat we supporting wants revolutionary or they're just mere politician wearing revolutionary shirts. Zuma is got i don knw how many wives "lost counting" using tax money, billions of rands every year but he has the nerve to say malema is immature...talk of blind leading the blind.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@LijahaSisu is that your defense for the allegation you made about me? LoL all you needed to do was to search Sowetan article whereby you claim I supported corruption, ie Midvaal article you mentioned that would have sufficed, but you know you were not telling the truth so you come up with an excuse that you don't save my messages, and btw I have no need nor reason to hide behind 'tecnicalities' cause my conscience is clear iro my stance on ANTI-corruption and general maladministration of gov resources everyone here who reads my comments knows this, so I never need to justify myself to you.Report Abuse
Man-of-the-match-10111
@Moya2006.....well put ma brother. Zuma is actually not comfortable with Malema being around, now he claims that Malema thought the anc was weak...bulldogs zuma, Malema has always being outspoken even before was elected the youth league president. Zuma just shutup.........nxaReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@Man-of-the-match why do you not understand that zuma like malema is entitled to his opinions iro malema? do you guys think that because he was made by amongst others malema he must now roll over and get screwed as a pay back? I don't even like Mshowerlozi but please you guys be reasonable, malema is of course immature politically and otherwise he has proven himself and exposed this immaturity publicly, I don't know if he doesn't have any advisors or he ever views/reads his immature behaviour/statements displayed for all to see, if anything malema is an embarrassment to the this country especially for those who observed former anc youth league leaders like Madiba, who were inspired by those leader to support SAns against apartheid, zuma is a polokwane mistake, the honours are on you anc ppl incl your NEC to correct this mistake and save this country, that's the ONLY humane thing you guys can do as part of your social responsibility to this citizens of this country.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
anyway nuff said for the day about Dumb & Dumber of the anc, now off to more brain stimulating stuff, whilst I strongly urge you anc supporters to have a heart and brains and save this country from the polokwane mistake you dunked the rest of us to, kick malema out and recall zuma, surely you can multi-task?Report Abuse
T.C.T
somaartakeitfor the sake of accuracy DO NOT ASSUME SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO knowleadge of,however you can raise your opinion but dont just conclude things without having facts or evidency to cover your story.
[[[these politicians especially the anc lot are a law unto themselves they regard themselves as ubermenschen of SA]]]]
ive realised that you dont care about the processes that need to be conducted first to deal with the individuals laws and policies need to be respected and used as a guidline to deal with the attitude or behaviour of a person or employee or politician.investigation are the starting point gathering info that is needed for that particular incidents.i cant comment on ppl personal lives like you they dont concrn me or you so i wont use it to manipulate the debate.dont judge them on there morality but on ther performance.
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LijahaSisu
@somartakeitHere are some of your comments Madam regarding the Midvaal fiasco.
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somaartakeit
Eish, I was expecting that alleged 'DA power abuse' involves millions of unaccounted for tax payers money, did Odendaal's company DELIVER service they were contracted for by the Midvaal municipal, YES or NO?
The issue I have with anc tenderpreneurs is that they DON'T DELIVER the service for the state money in the form tenders awarded to them, in this Odendaal case that is not the issue. And if misconduct is being found and proven unlike shiceka, nkabinde, cele, cwele who are still on state salaries, Odendaal will be dealt with, that is the diffs, I think all we expect is accountability, hence I asked DID HE DELIVER on the premise and in accordance with contract?
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DJWinner
@BraSteve...Alteast now we know that DA is also not clean either. They are as corrupt as some ANC officials.
------------------------------------diffs btwn the 2 is that at the DA the corrupt are dealt with as in this case, the DA has already responded with official response to the matter and hopefully they will not keep us waiting for years whilst they as jacob zuma wld put it 'applying their mind' how long did it take zuma to concl the cele shiceka and nkabinde matter?
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@Sinudeity
KeRataBasadi - Dude fired two days later (20 steps forward).
Lets spot the difference.
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somaartakeit
LOVL @LijahaSisu is this your best shot? LOLReport Abuse
Sinudeity
T.C.T - "dont judge them on there morality but on ther performance."LOL
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somaartakeit
@T.C.Tsomaartakeit
for the sake of accuracy DO NOT ASSUME SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO knowleadge of,however you can raise your opinion but dont just conclude things without having facts or evidency to cover your story.
[[[these politicians especially the anc lot are a law unto themselves they regard themselves as ubermenschen of SA]]]]
--------------------------------------------------------------the issue of armsdeals saga does it not prove that anc officials are law unto themselves? does the travelgate count as a fact that anc are the untouchables who given carteblanche to loot SAn tax payers money? I could count so many but in the interest of not causing myself migraine I shall leave you ponder examples given as FACTS to substantiate my position.
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T.C.T
SinudeityT.C.T - "dont judge them on there morality but on ther performance."
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heheheh i know but just dismissing this sister called somaar!!!!!
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somaartakeit
armsdeal was droped bcos of evidence that was found in a wrong way and proved that the was a plot or conspiracy towards ada cadres however correct and necessary channels wer followed to dismiss that case.i dont want to give attention to rumours that are not yet been investigated.
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Sinudeity
LijahaSisu - Yeah, thats about right.Thanks.
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Sinudeity
LijahaSisu - With regards to Midvaal...Do you have any comments on the Premier of Limpopo?
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Sinudeity
T.C.T - "armsdeal was droped bcos of evidence that was found in a wrong way and proved that the was a plot or conspiracy towards ada cadres however correct and necessary channels wer followed to dismiss that case.i dont want to give attention to rumours that are not yet been investigated."Not true.
Teh armsdeal investigation was dropped because the government said there was nothing to investigate. Jacob was heading the 'government task team' at the time.
The armsdeal investigation has been reopened.
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Mtho'eng'nanqondo
RobinHBye Bye Blackbird.
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Why not bye bye bird, why does the bird have to be specific in colour?
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Sinudeity
Mtho'eng'nanqondo - Its the name of the song.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@TCT wrt armsdeal saga lol how things have changed since said decision to quash the case was made LOLReport Abuse
kutollo13
zuma should understant that if Discipline within the ANC is what is causing Juju his future, then he himself doens't belong to the organisation, he has caused not only the ANC but the whole country a lot, to mention how many times his name has apperead on national and international media for all wrong reasons will take 4ever. He should have been dismised a long time ago, but the same ANC was very patient with him.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@kutollo13 I agree that zuma was supposed to have been dismissed, okay scrap that he should have never been a leader alas malema carried him on his shoulders and gatecrashed him into presidency, thanks to him we have this idiotic president and thanks to zuma we are today having malema in our national discourse.Report Abuse
DURINGVINIGERTIMES
You wanted to divide the family mfana kuthi Malema.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
hey Senganga247 please pay attention your hero (malema) is being investigated for amongst other crimes 'grabbing a farm for himself' in Limpopo, why didnt' he give this farm to the landless of Limpopo if he cared so much about their plight?also no one expects the anc to not chant/sloganeer liberation songs but what is LEGALLY not allowed is to chant slogans that are perceived to be inciting racial hatred, so please comrade chant away no one is out to get you as long as what you are chanting is within the constraints of the laws.
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T.C.T
Sinudeity and somaartakeitHe allegedly makes statements, including “Mbeki is my president, he will always be my president”. After Mbeki’s Polokwane defeat, he allegedly said: “We must wipe the blood off our faces … it is time for a come-back strategy.” Also in the recordings:
■McCarthy allegedly refers to Mbeki’s instructions that neither Zuma nor police commissioner Jackie Selebi should be charged before Polokwane, as the perception of victimhood would work to their advantage;
■There was reference to Zuma allegedly reneging on a 2003 deal to retire from politics in exchange for the dropping of the prosecution against him. A Zuma insider told theM&G that there had been such an approach to Zuma, but that it had gone nowhere because he was affronted; and
■There was reference to Mbeki ordering a third draft of the Scorpions’ “Browse Mole” report, which investigated allegedly illicit foreign funding for Zuma, even though Mbeki’s office publicly condemned the report.
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Mzabalazo
Your sentence get reduced then what? Juju do you think Zuma and Manthashe will ever trust you? I said it long time ago that you lack what makes progressive and dynamic leader( amongst some of the things you lack) reading the political scene. Lets say they forgive you and say they give you a year , or they forgive you completely and strip you and your bafoons the leadership of the ANCYL , so how do you think you will come back? Even if they forgive you the Hawks are going to throw you in prison atleast for 3 months if you are that lucky. There is no way the Zumani will let near any position of influence, they wont even let you be a councillor. Your plan with Mbalula,Phosa,Sexwale and others has gone down the drain. Sexwale was a guerrila but he could not coach you on how to ambush Zuma and Mantashe in Mangaung instead of going conventionally with a enemy armed to teeth.Empty Malema just throw a towel, atleast the people whom constantly attacked, the likes of Holomisa, Mbeki, they never crawled and begged when they were down, it really shows that what you were fighting for was just a cover of achieve more greener pastures in the movement. How many times can you miscalculate?
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Ngwijikhwebu
Malema has been booted out for publicly defying the ANC, and for insulting and ridiculing its senior leaders including JZ on numerous occasions. Importantly, he is being fired for his views on succession. That he is being suspended for calling for economic freedom, and for his policy (nationalisation and land redistribution) is just a myth which his supporters would like us to believe so that he can gain some sympathy from the masses.To borrow from Motlanthe's quote: Juju and his cronies within the ANCYL were intoxicated by past victories.
They (ANCYL) thought they were the "king makers" and hence controlled the entire ANC. They thought they could continue bullying and threatening the ANC as they saw fit. Mhhh... poor Malema and his disciples were very wrong on this one... Interestingly, these loose heads don't want to learn from the past as they continue singing provocative and insensitive songs about Zuma, while hoping for the reduction of their sentences.
On the succession issue, i wonder why they couldn't wait until at least 3/4 months before Mangaung to start canvassing for the change in leadership guard? One wonders why there was so much haste....
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Nick794
It is important to understand that this issue is not about Malema or those who are said to be supporting him. It's about the organisational pillars of unity of purpose and discipline. No one is and can be above any organisation.What we are seeing here are effective check and balances that the organisation has. It is an opportunity for Mr Malema to learn from this experience and become a better leader. It's not about Mr Malema and the President, its about organisational unity and discipline and for the organisation to focus on it's fundamental objective, that of liberating our people.
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Makotoko
can somebody shut this malema idiotReport Abuse
T.C.T
MALEMA is unque he make sure all the option are been exhausted and he do not get tired quickly like those mentioned cadres.why are we so against the right MALEMA is using to solve his case?Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@TCT what Mbeki said or didn't say is not in question here, the point is this case is/will be re-opened and zuma is doing his best to prevent this, I read article on M&G abt his defense against such being re-opened, he argues that the re-opening of this case will tarnish his image, does your leader has something to hide?Report Abuse
T.C.T
somaartakeitdont try to be smart why are you now changing the argument we wer talking about channels how to dismiss cases or conduct investigations.and i suggested that zuma case was dismissed or droped bcos of the ways the evidence was received and the judge who was Nicholson said in his findings that the was elements influencing this case and called it political interference.....live mbeki or mg out of our debate and stand your point.
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Sinudeity
T.C.T - Good info.Mind posting the reference please?
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somaartakeit
I was NOT talking about channels I said anc officials are above the law you challenged that and asked me to support my 'opinion' I quoted arms-deal case which is being re-opened in the hope to possible trial the guilty parties.Report Abuse
Sinudeity
T.C.T - "Zuma case was dismissed or droped bcos of the ways the evidence was received and the judge who was Nicholson said in his findings that the was elements influencing this case and called it political interference."I also remember jacob saying that "If I go down Im taking alot of people down with me" and "I was smallfry in the armsdeal".
As for Mbeki, we know about his R30 million that he made from the Armsdeal. The problem here, is that the Zuma case was thrown out, because of Mbek. Purely because one corrupt dude was colluding to have another corrupt dude prosecuted.
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Charley4sure
@NgwijikhwebuTo borrow from Motlanthe's quote: Juju and his cronies within the ANCYL were intoxicated by past victories.
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Even the Devil can site a scripture for his won purpose. Motlanthe is against the disciplinary action,
it was and it is all over the news.
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somaartakeit
it is my opinion that armsdeal corrupt case against zuma was dropped because he typifies the SAn ubermeschen I was talking about, the ability by the justice system of this country to re open this case and clear any doubts on individuals guilty or lack there of will give us all a closure to this saga, so we should embrace the process cause we will be better for it.Report Abuse
RealAfricanDemocrat
Ehe! This is very interesting. A man who is still wanted on charges of fraud and corruption (Jacob Zuma) is running after a young boy (Julius Malema) who is accused of having stolen sweets, popcorn and peanuts. Where is the sense of justice in this? This is clear abuse of political power and in due time is going to backfire big time.Report Abuse
T.C.T
SinudeityT.C.T - Good info.
Mind posting the reference please?
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i dont have the full info my brother thats the peace i got
somaartakeit
you know nothing stop wasting your time about elders games..live politics to us,always complaining fo no reson
Sinudeity
precisely if you extend your memory further he called mbeki as his witness and thats wer the case was dismissed imediatly...you know ur sh.it dude some ladies need to find the way in the kitchen..
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Sinudeity
somaartakeit / T.C.T - Keep on keepin on guys. You both are my forum hero's.Report Abuse
RobinH
Mtho'eng'nanqondo: Bye Bye Blackbird is the name of a song from the fifties. This is NOT a racial reflection in any way. It is a mild joke.Report Abuse
T.C.T
somaartakeitlook sweet girl as much as i love to see that case re-opened whether or not the prosecution was politically m.otivated is irrelevant there is still a legal case to answer and ZUMA must do so and demonstrate once and for all that he as OUR leader is innocent man who has faith in our judiciary to find him innocent according to the facts not by avoiding or ignoring the case the way he does
what i dont admire about your comments/posts you excalate things to suet your theory or imagination and like to be forward without having the knowleadge to equip your argument in short you most of the time respond emotionaly without thinking dont conclude to much my sweety jou lekker ding. im not attacking is just a friendly reminder of who you are in the blogg
Sinudeity
heheheeh you are crazy
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somaartakeit
@TCT I fully agree with your first para, wrt my alleged lack of knowledge on stuff I comment on here, I guess its a question of you and I agreeing to disagree, cause its a public knowledge the arms-deal and its in public's interests that this matter is put to rest once and for all, also its in the interest of this regime to clear this armsdeal cloud once and for all, that way the DA has no ammo to undermine them with, it's called taking back power, but it seems your leaders (anc) have a great deal lot to hide hence this tangoing with the issue, in their own stupidity not realising that by dragging this matter longer than it should, it further tarnishes their standing in the eyes of the public, I am also pleased that you confirmed you do not support corruption, cause corruption is crime against humanity if one has to take into account consequences in the form of poverty and non deliverance of basic and necessary services. My concl is that zuma must stand trial and clear his name, end of the story.@Sin, no worries dude I am also awed by your efforts to bring in facts when anc lot are trying to obfuscate by using racism in their attempts at deflecting what needs to be discussed, so thank you for keeping us abreast iro current political dealings:-)
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Manala
So the little twerp is getting his behind kicked by the herd boy.Serves him right for siding with the devil.
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somaartakeit
@RAD malema is found guilty of crime charged against the anc by the anc collective not just zuma, yes there is bad blood btwn the 2 but the fact remain malems is being found guilty, and no amount of emotional blackmailing will change this, Cyril Ramaphosa is neither indebted to either malema or zuma camps, I therefore believe his concl on malema's appeal for sentence to be overturned was fair/and or unbiased, you guys must learn to uphold the rules, also even if malema stole stock sweets he still has to answer for that, cause no matter how minor his fraud cases against zuma the consequences have same impact that is, denying the intended (poor) of opportunity to be uplifted from poverty, so for that he is good riddance sorry that it took so long for a man reason like Ramaphosa to end this circus once and for all. Next is for zuma to stand trial and we as a nation put the armsdeal to finality.Report Abuse
T.C.T
somaartakeitprecisely my babe nice comment too,however reduce name calling such as stupid i admire your fairness now.At the end of the day ZUMA cant avoid the facts standing towards him those facts will remain if he thinks he can dodge his court appearance he just looks guiltier and guiltier evryday if they say there constitution is fair how come they never deal with him just like they do with MALEMA
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somaartakeit
@TCT from what I know or heard from some anc top guns malema is an immediate threat to the anc (survival) so he is the first to go, I don't think zuma will be elected for second term cause there are so many in the top echelons of the anc that are against that, but we will have to wait and see.Also the anc have not forgiven zuma for losing them votes the anc also knows what's at stake if zuma is given second term, so I don't think they are foolish enough to take that gamble, but right now they have to show a united front against the immediate threat.
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somaartakeit
you will not believe that non of the top anc guns are keen to take us into their confidence iro how we ended with zuma for president everyone will have you know that its not his/her decisions and that they were against it from the onset, the only unfortunate thing is that this charade is real and is costing SA a lot the anc should have a courage to call zuma in and tell him it was a mistake and he should stand down, if he resigns on his own accord it would not be so much embarrassment for the anc rather than waiting for the fall out at Manguang I mean how much one party can take before it all falls to irreparable pieces? zuma should have consideration for the anc as a party if he really cares for it so much and remove himself from presidency cause he knows he has failed not only the anc but the country, if truth be told.Report Abuse
T.C.T
somaartakeitZUMA was done a favor by ANC to bcum a president bcos cadres wer tired by the chieftancy style MBEKI used wen he wanted 3rd term and that time PPL wer thnking and conviced that the was a plot towards ZUMA not to be a president and that time no one was an OPTION and ANC settled with ZUMA
MALEMA is just a thread to there confort zone and they know the influence he has towards youth they are not prepared to take risk honestly speaking MALEMA can mobilze huge crowd to destroy zuma,gwede etc jst relax and watch
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Makhosini0408
5, 4, 3, 2, someone's time is up. Political oblivion is a bitter pill to swallow and Malema has one person to blame, its unfortunately, Julius Malema, his worst enemy. If I was his lawyer, I was going to plead, ignorance, since the ANC, decided in his first DC, that he needs political education.Report Abuse
CYBORICO
@TCTMALEMA is just a thread to there confort zone and they know the influence he has towards youth they are not prepared to take risk honestly speaking MALEMA can mobilze huge crowd to destroy zuma,gwede etc jst relax and watch
Dream on dreamer, like many of your felaz, eyes closed, head deep in the sand and whistling "dont worry be happy", Man sh.it just hit the fan u s'pose to take cover not act like all is ok.
can somebody please shake this guys ,maybe they'll wake up and start to smell the fire.
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somaartakeit
@TCT malema is ONLY a threat cause the anc fails to deliver on youth issues such as high unemployment and education (empowerment), so the anc together with zuma created this monstrosity for us, malema raises real issues to which even I his worse critic agree to, but its in the "HOW" he raises such that is an issue, and to blame whites for these issues he is being ambiguous cause the anc as a ruling party has the power to address the youth issues but they have no will power or political will to do so as they are too busy being corrupt, if I were to tell you the scale of corruption in every section of this gov you will understand why nobody is saying hey guys let's find plans to kick start projects to rejuvenate economy and empower the youth, I am so angry with the anc cause all this we expect of them is doable its no a rock science, they are waiting for or are too vision-less to see that if more are desperately poor this will lead us to civil unrest, cause ppl who have nothing to lose why should they be expected to remain calm and patient just to respect interests of the elite?My problem with Malema TCT is that, he also has no vision/nor plan to change this horrific picture with catalog of broken promises, so he shouldn't pretend he has a plan cause that is misleading and if the youth of this country found themselves in the unemployment dilemma in 20yrs time there will be hell to pay for all of us. So I want for leaders to thread careful and not raise hopes unrealistically, especially if they know they have no intentions to deliver on said promises.
I think the first step wld be to engage all stakeholders concerned with the aim to facilitate development of the youth OF ALL RACES for the benefit of not ONLY themselves but the COUNTRY, we must curtail gov tenderpreneurs cause they are working contrary to what we shld achieve as a nation. Lastly SAn voters must be pro-active not passive iro holding leaders to account and participation on deliverabilities, we must engage with public representatives and give them a road map on what must be done and by that must be achieved, other nations that are functional are doing this already cause they have long since figured out that politicians performed better when cornered.
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CYBORICO
the anc knows how much they lost support since Juju and Jz entered the scene, Prior to Juju the so called Juju fans were ANC voters, due to Juju's diarhea mouth the anc is currently loosing its real supporters, which is, those who dont follow certain indiv but the anc itself, and the bigger potion is of those who are sick of corruption and mismngmnt of gov funds Hence to stand a chance at the next pols, they needed to deal with the immediate threats which is Juju and corruption,halleluja they have already suspended the bug and an inquiry has been innitiated on corrupt officials. he will be a strong man to survive both processes hence I say we have done burried him, Gwede and Jz studied on k.illing Juju's sick political career
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T.C.T
CYBORICOyou are the real thing CYBORICO or CYBORG>>>>>>>>if you dont agree with wat im saying pls back up your comment
somaartakeit
bravooo my sister no need for me to mess it up you have covered all the critical points and hilited wat we all see...mmmhhhh you see how it is easy to agree without assuming?m speechless
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Tshiamo-8TA
@TigerEyesKatse e hwa e ke ngapetse. right on JUJU. go on home boy. Motlanthe for Pres
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Tltltltltltl......huuuuu, hae waitse some of the comments dika go fetsa matla...!
@TigerEyes, ore a etseng? A ke ngapele....Lol....you killing me...!
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Senganga247
somaartakeithey Senganga247 please pay attention your hero (malema) is being investigated for amongst other crimes 'grabbing a farm for himself' in Limpopo, why didnt' he give this farm to the landless of Limpopo if he cared so much about their plight?
also no one expects the anc to not chant/sloganeer liberation songs but what is LEGALLY not allowed is to chant slogans that are perceived to be inciting racial hatred, so please comrade chant away no one is out to get you as long as what you are chanting is within the constraints of the laws.
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Malema has been investigated more than 8yrs now and to this time He was never arrested for anything. Last time He was to be arrested when He came back from Mauritius. Dont be surprised when another newspaper run juicy news and say Malema is investigated for killing a cat belonging to Mulder and you would believe it. They know these are the only stories that excite you to buy newspapers. These accusation are faceless.
On the struggle songs, tell me of one struggle song that does not relate to arms and bringing down the regime of the past? The song "HAMBA KAHLE MKHONDO" which is sang when a liberation soldier dies speaks of killing boers. All these songs including Dubul' ibunu must be protected. They are just liberation song now and nothing else.
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mabasozan
bye JUJU bye, if you can't beat MSHOLOZI JOIN HIM....HA HA!!!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
cdek
WHAT CAREER????????Report Abuse
Mtho'eng'nanqondo
Mtho'eng'nanqondoRobinH
Bye Bye Blackbird.
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Why not bye bye bird, why does the bird have to be specific in colour?
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Sinudeity
Mtho'eng'nanqondo - Its the name of the song
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RobinH
Mtho'eng'nanqondo: Bye Bye Blackbird is the name of a song from the fifties. This is NOT a racial reflection in any way. It is a mild joke
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It does not come as a surprise the you listen to racist songs!!!
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mabasozan
@tigereyesmy brotha, ZUMA isrespected internationally, so if u say that he must leave limpopo alone, with pleasure booitjie, anyway he wil win even without yo stupid limpopo and yo simple minded malema.
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californiaqueen
JUJU o re segeshitje ka batho, you were radical and brave, and now you overdose the prescription, to regain that momentum and energy you need to slow down and beg the NEC FOR MERCY, who know God is miraculous, we are praying for your mental discovery and please to attend anger management sessions at your spare time now that you have all the time in the world its time to remedy your situationReport Abuse
P4T
Ag shame poor ANC. Unfortunately the resultant of all these fiascos the party is going to lose votes at the polls. Instead of the party focusing on service delivery for the electorate and the country, it's entangled itself in JZ vs JM boxing bout, giving DA ammunition to strategize in countering on ANC's weaknesses. Is/Are there no voice/s of reason in the ANC to stop both JZ and JM ruining the party?Gone are the days where people in the ANC put the party first before any self interest or that of the masses. WE MOURN.
Abantu on the ground banibhekile nobabili futhi akuzona iziphukuphuku. Abantu bayakhala bafuna uxolo kukhongolose nentuthuko emiphakathini hayi ubakubangisana.
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dewa
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sowetoBotha
Sinudeity : live that money which is stolen by my people consider to give up south african natural resource and vamuse Zuma was right Juju is our future leader who just need to be capacitated with political education leave that man alone en wena live the country.Report Abuse
noto
Julius wont fall ,zuma will.Take my words..Report Abuse
S'ponono
If only they had fixed that rubbish in his trousers Juju would have been rehabilitated by now......Report Abuse
Ndele01
What an opportunist. He wants the poor and desperate to help him take from those who are working very hard every day. His greed is now not limited to Limpopo any more but he wants the money from the mines too - just like his mentor Mugabe. He is trying to do this by creating disruption in the country where we are trying to buildit for the future - he will use the poor and kick them off his expensive Sandton house's pavement once he has gained access to mine money.Report Abuse
1Leswika
What goes around come around. Ke polotiki, nnete ge e le yona ga eyo. Only convenience works.Report Abuse
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